US-based Muslim preacher who allegedly advocated killing gay people

[Kazanne]

Can someone explain to me why they are happy to let this man into the UK,but have signed a petition to stop Trump getting in ?


A US-based Muslim preacher who allegedly advocated killing gay people is giving a lecture series in London after being allowed to enter the UK.
The Home Office has been urged to retract the visa of Hamza Sodagar who is giving a series of lectures in the capital city between 3*October and 12 October.
Read more :http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hamza-sodagar-us-muslim-preacher-who-advocated-beheading-of-gay-men-allowed-to-lecture-in-the-uk-a7348886.html

[Niamh.]

I'm sure if people had heard of this and there was a petition they would sign that too? :shrug:

[UserSince2005]

This is so scary, we need trump to come and save us too.

[arista]

Yes its illegal
Kaz.

why is the BBC not covering it?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes its illegal
Kaz.

why is the BBC not covering it?

it has to be pro muslim for them to run with it

[Jamie89]

I'm sure if people had heard of this and there was a petition they would sign that too? :shrug:

That's true, the fact that there are more people signing the Trump petition doesn't mean people see it as a bigger issue, it's just that it gets more attention. Trumps petition is the main story on the BBC News website for example whereas this isn't something that's too well known. So it's not as though the people who have signed the Trump petition, but not signed a petition to stop this man, have done so because they're happy with him entering.

[the truth]

That's true, the fact that there are more people signing the Trump petition doesn't mean people see it as a bigger issue, it's just that it gets more attention. Trumps petition is the main story on the BBC News website for example whereas this isn't something that's too well known. So it's not as though the people who have signed the Trump petition, but not signed a petition to stop this man, have done so because they're happy with him entering.

theyre a bunch of idiotic populists who love to jump on board a populist bandwagon

[jennyjuniper]

Let's start a petition then to keep this scum out.

[the truth]

Let's start a petition then to keep this scum out.

corbyn should but he wont , he loves radical islam and wants unlimited immigration

[Tom4784]

Can someone explain to me why they are happy to let this man into the UK,but have signed a petition to stop Trump getting in ?


A US-based Muslim preacher who allegedly advocated killing gay people is giving a lecture series in London after being allowed to enter the UK.
The Home Office has been urged to retract the visa of Hamza Sodagar who is giving a series of lectures in the capital city between 3*October and 12 October.
Read more :http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hamza-sodagar-us-muslim-preacher-who-advocated-beheading-of-gay-men-allowed-to-lecture-in-the-uk-a7348886.html

Because this isn't being covered in the news? It's honestly such a weak way of defending Trump whilst trying to discredit his detractors.

I hope there is a petition to stop this hate preacher from entering the UK, I'd sign it.

[jennyjuniper]

Can someone explain to me why they are happy to let this man into the UK,but have signed a petition to stop Trump getting in ?


A US-based Muslim preacher who allegedly advocated killing gay people is giving a lecture series in London after being allowed to enter the UK.
The Home Office has been urged to retract the visa of Hamza Sodagar who is giving a series of lectures in the capital city between 3*October and 12 October.
Read more :http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hamza-sodagar-us-muslim-preacher-who-advocated-beheading-of-gay-men-allowed-to-lecture-in-the-uk-a7348886.html

I've just been on to the 'start a petition' page and it won't let me!! I don't know why that is:shrug:

[Kazanne]

Because this isn't being covered in the news? It's honestly such a weak way of defending Trump whilst trying to discredit his detractors.

I hope there is a petition to stop this hate preacher from entering the UK, I'd sign it.

I have never said I am a Trump supporter and I am not defending him,I just find it weird that people like that person advocating death is allowed in but Trump isn't it doesn't mean I am supporting anyone.

[Kazanne]

Yes its illegal
Kaz.

why is the BBC not covering it?

Yes why aren't they arista.:shrug: dangerous people.

[DemolitionRed]

Can someone explain to me why they are happy to let this man into the UK,but have signed a petition to stop Trump getting in ?


A US-based Muslim preacher who allegedly advocated killing gay people is giving a lecture series in London after being allowed to enter the UK.
The Home Office has been urged to retract the visa of Hamza Sodagar who is giving a series of lectures in the capital city between 3*October and 12 October.
Read more :http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hamza-sodagar-us-muslim-preacher-who-advocated-beheading-of-gay-men-allowed-to-lecture-in-the-uk-a7348886.html
FFS people, read the link... this is old news that was all over Twitter and FB
last year. They were talking about last October and not this October.

I signed the petition (yes there was one) to retract Hamza Sodagars visa and there were enough signatures for this to get debated in parliament. Unfortunately, our neo-liberal government, as usual, didn't listen to the voice of the people.

[Kazanne]

I've just been on to the 'start a petition' page and it won't let me!! I don't know why that is:shrug:

:conf: I wonder why that is.

[jennyjuniper]

:conf: I wonder why that is.

Democracy at it's finest presumably.:conf:

[Kizzy]

FFS people, read the link... this is old news that was all over Twitter and FB
last year. They were talking about last October and not this October.

I signed the petition (yes there was one) to retract Hamza Sodagars visa and there were enough signatures for this to get debated in parliament. Unfortunately, our neo-liberal government, as usual, didn't listen to the voice of the people.

Well, that puts a new spin on it, thanks for that.

[Alf]

Because this isn't being covered in the news? It's honestly such a weak way of defending Trump whilst trying to discredit his detractors.

I hope there is a petition to stop this hate preacher from entering the UK, I'd sign it.The question is, why isn't it in the mainstream news? what's the reason? is there an agenda?

We pay for this service, we just want a fair and truthful service.

Remember the cover up in Rotherham?, or the year's of covering up of Jimmy Saville and co?

The internet is now the place for real news, on Twitter and YouTube. Which is why the institutions in power are now trying to censor it.

[DemolitionRed]

The question is, why isn't it in the mainstream news? what's the reason? is there an agenda?

We pay for this service, we just want a fair and truthful service.

Remember the cover up in Rotherham?, or the year's of covering up of Jimmy Saville and co?

The internet is now the place for real news, on Twitter and YouTube. Which is why the institutions in power are now trying to censor it.

If you read the entire post you would understand that its old news.

[user104658]

Can someone explain to me why they are happy to let this man into the UK,but have signed a petition to stop Trump getting in ?

Because Trump is currently one of the highest-profile people on the entire planet. If not THE most.

/ thread.

[Alf]

If you read the entire post you would understand that its old news.The date of the story doesn't matter.

When Jimmy Saville was finally outed, that was also old news, because now he was dead.

Do the mainstream news have an agenda? or do the deliver an impartial service? And if they do have an agenda, what is their agenda?

[Brillopad]

Can someone explain to me why they are happy to let this man into the UK,but have signed a petition to stop Trump getting in ?


A US-based Muslim preacher who allegedly advocated killing gay people is giving a lecture series in London after being allowed to enter the UK.
The Home Office has been urged to retract the visa of Hamza Sodagar who is giving a series of lectures in the capital city between 3*October and 12 October.
Read more :http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hamza-sodagar-us-muslim-preacher-who-advocated-beheading-of-gay-men-allowed-to-lecture-in-the-uk-a7348886.html

You really couldn't make up such a blatant double standard.

[Kazanne]

You really couldn't make up such a blatant double standard.

You couldn't,they are acting like a bunch of scared kids, he's paying a visit as many have done before him,and not nice people at that.They need to get a grip.

[Brillopad]

Because Trump is currently one of the highest-profile people on the entire planet. If not THE most.

/ thread.

So politics before safety.

[DemolitionRed]

You people really are scraping the bottom of the barrel on this one

People did protest... people did petition... it was discussed in Parliament.

[Brillopad]

You people really are scraping the bottom of the barrel on this one

People did protest... people did petition... it was discussed in Parliament.

People did vote for Brexit/Trump - people have no regrets - people will respect a public vote!!!

[Kizzy]

People did vote for Brexit/Trump - people have no regrets - people will respect a public vote!!!

Imma just leave this here...

http://uk.businessinsider.com/brexit-vote-regret-leave-margin-victory-2016-10

[Brillopad]

Imma just leave this here...

http://uk.businessinsider.com/brexit-vote-regret-leave-margin-victory-2016-10

The majority have no regrets. Some simply don't have the courage of their convictions.

The economy is doing considerably better than predicted by the scare-mongers, so any regrets are misplaced. And who cares about a minority that would vote for someone because they thought they would lose - that's assuming they weren't just winding people up.

And if anyone actually has any regrets - tough, if you vote in a public vote without conviction you live with any perceived consequences.

You Won't get your second referendum if you truly believe in democracy.

[user104658]

So politics before safety.

No, the question was essentially "why are people bothered about signing a Trump petition but not up in arms about an obscure Muslim leader?"

The answer is profile and visibility. There's not really any further debate required.