Young 20 year olds NOW must "now" work until 74 years of age

[arista]

From Ch5HD AM Live paper review


a graph showed how the retirement age
Keeps Going UP



My advice
to the young tibbers
Climb The Ladder
become a Manager
take control of the plebs


Feel The Force

[Cal.]

I'm retiring from glamour modelling at 30.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I would say never retire, keep working. Once you sit down, you stay down. I hope to be working when I am 80



(dont say i dont tee em up for ya):smug:

[arista]

I would say never retire, keep working. Once you sit down, you stay down. I hope to be working when I am 80



(dont say i dont tee em up for ya):smug:


Bang On Right LT
Stay Active helping your kids
and teaching the young on tibb.

[arista]

I'm retiring from glamour modelling at 30.


Well I guess if you won
the Euro Lottery
you could pack it
in while being Young.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I dont think you should get weekends off until you are 40, young people should be forced to work 7 days a week the lazy buggers and it would help the economy

Note Bank of England sharply raised the 2017 growth outlook from 0.8% to 2% :rolleyes:

maybe carney should have shut his trap about the EU as he now has egg on his smug face. I may have a look in some old SD threads to see what members were riding on the back of the 0.8% forecast and predicting brexit doom and gloom, I think I can recall at least one....

[Drew.]

Kim is my inspiration

[arista]

"young people should be forced
to work 7 days a week
the lazy buggers and it would help the economy"

Bang On Right LT


If we go to WW3
the Young go on the Front Line
with Military Robots assisting
FACT

[arista]

Kim is my inspiration


Thats the Spirit.......


You Are Most Wise Drew

[DemolitionRed]

From Ch5HD AM Live paper review

a graph showed how the retirement age
Keeps Going UP

My advice
to the young tibbers
Climb The Ladder
become a Manager
take control of the plebs

Feel The Force


"young people should be forced
to work 7 days a week
the lazy buggers and it would help the economy"

Bang On Right LT

If we go to WW3
the Young go on the Front Line
with Military Robots assisting
FACT



Plebs? is that how you look at Britain's workforce? is that how you look at the workers under you? shame on you Arista... shame on you.

Would you be happy to see your grandparents and your parents work 7 days a week and into the grave? What the hell happened to people like you?

[smudgie]

Work hard, save some of what you earn then you can retire a bit earlier.
Working to over 70 is not very realistic if you do something very labour intense.

[Withano]

Lol. As if I'm gonna live til I'm 74.

[user104658]

FFS what work can a 73 year old realistically do? It's too old for anything beyond a small number of easy hours. What this essentially means is that retirement no longer exists unless you fund it yourself.

[Ashley.]

FFS what work can a 73 year old realistically do? It's too old for anything beyond a small number of easy hours. What this essentially means is that retirement no longer exists unless you fund it yourself.

Exactly... Seems to me like it's just going to be another case of "get yourself a job, but not that one" which is going to make it extremely difficult in the future.

[Denver]

**** that i'm winning the lottery

[Marsh.]

I'm retiring from glamour modelling at 30.

Retire now luvvie, nobody wants to see that. xoxo

[Denver]

retire now luvvie, nobody wants to see that. Xoxo

stop gang-handling.

[Wizard.]

I will just do webcam porn it sounds like an easy job.

[Mystic Mock]

Yay! we're headed even closer to slave labour.

We must give the Tories a third term to destroy us even more and have us be able to retire when we're 90.

Seriously us and America are going backwards whilst everybody else in the west is moving forward.

[Vicky.]

Not surprising at all. Unfortunately.

[Marsh.]

Yeah, that's what life should be all about. 7 days of working, working and working. :umm2:

[Denver]

Who remembers when it was illegal to work a sunday

[Kizzy]

Yep rats on the wheel untill you drop dead, this is what you wanted UK Thatcher is dead, long live thatcherbotmk11

[arista]

I will just do webcam porn it sounds like an easy job.


Yes Big Cash.


ensure Payment has gone into the Account
Never Work for FREE


Maybe you can earn like a Hooker
but Long Term
you are limited as you get Older.



Feel The Force

[arista]

Yep rats on the wheel untill you drop dead, this is what you wanted UK Thatcher is dead, long live thatcherbotmk11

No Kizzy
Its more Simple
like LT said
the YOUNG
must WORK HARDER
the lazy buggers...............

There are Young workers
that have Climbed the Ladder Fast
but they are so god at Math.

Hard working young workers
earn big money.
FACT

[arista]

Plebs? is that how you look at Britain's workforce? is that how you look at the workers under you? shame on you Arista... shame on you.

Would you be happy to see your grandparents and your parents work 7 days a week and into the grave? What the hell happened to people like you?


Of Course Not DR
but its a word used on tibb
(The MP said he never
used it - but loads of T-shirts sold ,anyway)
that word gets the Young UP
and ready.


No One wants Biddies Dead on a Job
so as they get older
GIVE THEM A CHAIR.


Life In The City.

[Scarlett.]

And people wonder why unemployment is so high, when they work people til they're 70 odd.

[arista]

And people wonder why unemployment is so high, when they work people til they're 70 odd.

No Chewy
the old ones can not Dig Ditches
or be Plumbers (old folks backs go on Lifting Big Boilers).
Old Folks can not go Frontline in the Army.


However , Chewy
The BBC have one too old Dave Dim.
on QT his eyes are failing him,
he is slow - and loses control
he is way over that age for that Job.
But thats the STUPID bbc.

[arista]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/16403016_10208654479060417_6518464899505332171_o.j pg?oh=3056dbdfd8e748a23c0cc479bebc9511&oe=59131305
DJ Liz Kershaw telling kids to UP
their game.


8:43AM Live SkyNewsHD
Best Saturday Full Papers Reviews

sad bbc puts some 15mins repeats
from 6AM on Saturdays
so easy work they go off
for tea and coffee,





Please Note : Young Tibbers Have Rights

[Livia]

Considering how much longer we all live now and how much healthier we are compared to previous generations, it makes sense to me to raise the retirement age.

[Cherie]

Work the chicken livered buggers until they drop

On a practical note some jobs are not suited to working into your 70s if you have a desk bound office job yes, but if not every job, would you want a surgeon working on you with the shakes :umm2: or a 75 year old trying to teach Reception kids, even if we do live longer, we still get age related ailments at the same age as people did years ago

[T*]

try me bitch

[Ashley.]

Work the chicken livered buggers until they drop

On a practical note some jobs are not suited to working into your 70s if you have a desk bound office job yes, but if not every job, would you want a surgeon working on you with the shakes :umm2: or a 75 year old trying to teach Reception kids, even if we do live longer, we still get age related ailments at the same age as people did years ago

I agree Cherie. Just because we're living longer, doesn't in any way mean we're staying strong and healthy for longer, too.

[arista]

Work the chicken livered buggers until they drop

On a practical note some jobs are not suited to working into your 70s if you have a desk bound office job yes, but if not every job, would you want a surgeon working on you with the shakes :umm2: or a 75 year old trying to teach Reception kids, even if we do live longer, we still get age related ailments at the same age as people did years ago


Yes I Agree
Wise Cherie

the back room
with chairs
Human checking the Live feed Massive Factory Floor
"from the factory floor Section K789 making knickers
red button to push


(note: Computers Robots are watching all workers
as well as the biddies)

Younger Fit Security
Check their Tablets
find the Pause screen from the back room
then Pull out the Worker
for interview on stealing.



Life is Not So Hard
all Ages get Jobs,


Young Tibbers Climb the Ladder
and make sure you can do Math,

[DemolitionRed]

Yes I Agree
Wise Cherie

the back room
with chairs
Human checking the Live feed Massive Factory Floor
from the factory floor making knickers
red button to push


(note: Computers robots are watching all workers
as well as the biddies)

Younger Fit Security
Check the Tablets
find the Pause screen from the back room
then Pull out the Worker
for interview on stealing.



Life is Not So Hard
all Ages get Jobs,


Young Tibbers Climb the Ladder
and make sure you can do Math,


And that you have at least a basic level of English.

[Amy Jade]

I dont think you should get weekends off until you are 40, young people should be forced to work 7 days a week the lazy buggers and it would help the economy

Note Bank of England sharply raised the 2017 growth outlook from 0.8% to 2% :rolleyes:

maybe carney should have shut his trap about the EU as he now has egg on his smug face. I may have a look in some old SD threads to see what members were riding on the back of the 0.8% forecast and predicting brexit doom and gloom, I think I can recall at least one....

So you think people who do nursing for example should work 7 days a week?

[arista]

And that you have at least a basic level of English.


Bang on Right DR


But Math
is the one , so many UK kids leave behind
its shocking

[Brillopad]

And that you have at least a basic level of English.

And that includes everyone, including immigrants.

[arista]

So you think people who do nursing for example should work 7 days a week?

No Amy
Nurses get days off
because its hard work and some
old folks die while they are working.


LT is talking about Lazy young buggers
they can work 7 days a week
paid for each DAY


OK AMY



We need you Reporting on this
soon.
SkyNews4K news will be good soon.


Even some SkyAtlanticHD shows are also on 4K
for those with SkyQ

I do not have that
due to the remote control change,
on the new SkyQ.

[DemolitionRed]

And that includes everyone, including immigrants.


That's a given for any immigrant that wants to reside and work here. I don't know if you have seen the citizenship exam. I have and my guess is, most Brits wouldn't get a pass.

[arista]

That's a given for any immigrant that wants to reside and work here. I don't know if you have seen the citizenship exam. I have and my guess is, most Brits wouldn't get a pass.

Sure DR
but you are talking about the Lower Classes

A link
for any Young Tibbers to look at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_structure_of_the_United_Kingdom

[arista]

Considering how much longer we all live now and how much healthier we are compared to previous generations, it makes sense to me to raise the retirement age.


I agree its Logical,
Livia.

[arista]

I would say never retire, keep working. Once you sit down, you stay down. I hope to be working when I am 80



(dont say i dont tee em up for ya):smug:


Yes LT
I am sure you will.
helping the youngster's learn better
I would think by then you will have a Stick
that gives a "electric brief shock"
for any that DARE to be lazy that far on etc.

Police Robots will never allow
any young Spitting, by that year etc.

[DemolitionRed]

Arista, the more you say, the more it sounds as though you want to live in an Orwellian type society.

[DemolitionRed]

Perhaps we should just bring back the workhouse

[Brillopad]

That's a given for any immigrant that wants to reside and work here. I don't know if you have seen the citizenship exam. I have and my guess is, most Brits wouldn't get a pass.

No I haven't , but although there may some Brits that might struggle I know from experience there are quite a few immigrants using interpreters within the NHS which suggests there are a fair number not making the effort.

[Ronald.]

I retired earlier than I had hoped. However my job was very physically demanding with carpentry. I still do the odd jobs for friends that I know but as I headed into my late 50s everything took twice as long with twice as many cups of tea! My wife however is still a teacher and plans to work for another few years .

Regarding young people , let's not make them grow up any faster than they have to. I'm all about education. My eldest has done great things since coming out of university. I was never shy of hard work but I had no qualifications and everything I learnt was from my father before me . I would have loved an opportunity like university. R.

[Amy Jade]

No Amy
Nurses get days off
because its hard work and some
old folks die while they are working.


LT is talking about Lazy young buggers
they can work 7 days a week
paid for each DAY


OK AMY
So you think a young person who perhaps works in retail should work 7 days a week instead?

Is that what you mean?

[King Gizzard]

doubt i'l be alive to see 74 tbh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[arista]

Arista, the more you say, the more it sounds as though you want to live in an Orwellian type society.

No not yet,

I have Plans to remove all homeless
from England streets,
its a Good Plan
I have backers in USA now,
as well as in England.

This Thread
has it all
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=294081
My thread from 29th /12/2016

[arista]

doubt i'l be alive to see 74 tbh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Why would you say that?

[Marsh.]

No Amy
Nurses get days off
because its hard work and some
old folks die while they are working.


LT is talking about Lazy young buggers
they can work 7 days a week
paid for each DAY


This forum is so crammed with this sh*t it's actually going to combust sooner or later.

[DemolitionRed]

No not yet,

I have Plans to remove all homeless
from England streets,
its a Good Plan
I have backers in USA now,
as well as in England.

This Thread
has it all
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=294081
My thread from 29th /12/2016

I'm sure the homeless will be most grateful Arista :unsure:

[arista]

So you think a young person who perhaps works in retail should work 7 days a week instead?

Is that what you mean?


Look its simple
by working 7 days a week
contracts are done.
Then they move onto the 2nd contact
Each day they get paid
All Legal.

[Amy Jade]

Look its simple
by working 7 days a week
contracts are done.
Then they move onto the 2nd contact
Each day they get paid
All Legal.

But you just said nurses are ok to work less days. Who else is allowed that luxury?

Who should be working 7 days a week or be classed as lazy for not doing so?

[arista]

I'm sure the homeless will be most grateful Arista :unsure:


Yes they will.
As they get Help,
and never return to Sleeping on English streets
again.

[arista]

But you just said nurses are ok to work less days. Who else is allowed that luxury?

Who should be working 7 days a week or be classed as lazy for not doing so?



What sentence are you referring to?
Amy.

[DemolitionRed]

Look its simple
by working 7 days a week
contracts are done.
Then they move onto the 2nd contact
Each day they get paid
All Legal.

So when do people get leisure time? Come on Arista, you claim to be a manager so surely, you of all people should know that a workforce is not productive if they don't get the right work life balance.

People are not slaves. They work to earn and earn to live but there has to be more to life than work.

Whats all this nonsense about ?

[Amy Jade]

What sentence are you referring to?
Amy.

I asked you if young nurses should work 7 days a week and you said no.

I asked who you reference to as lazy and you've yet to explain who? Is it those in retail or office workers? Who?

[arista]

So when do people get leisure time? Come on Arista, you claim to be a manager so surely, you of all people should know that a workforce is not productive if they don't get the right work life balance.

People are not slaves. They work to earn and earn to live but there has to be more to life than work.

Whats all this nonsense about ?


Of course the young are not slaves
no one said they were
with respect.

Yes there is more to life than just work,
but LT was referring to
some Lazy young who do nothing, all day.
All Night.

Now that's a waste of a Life
DR.


This thread is about the Young who will
now work until they are 74 years old.
Its in all the Papers and News.
I posted a Photo very large (spoiler)
from Early This morning
in a news studio. Page section 2

[Marsh.]

with respect.

Nothing you've said about anyone of any age in this thread is respectful.

[DemolitionRed]

Of course the young are not slaves
no one said they were
with respect.

Yes there is more to life than just work,
but LT was referring to
some Lazy young who do nothing, all day.
All Night.

Now that's a waste of a Life
DR.


This thread is about the Young who will
now work until they are 74 years old.
Its in all the Papers and News.
I posted a Photo very large (spoiler)
from Early This morning
in a news studio.

What have lazy youths got to do with working seven days a week
Colour me confused :conf:

[arista]

Nothing you've said about anyone of any age in this thread is respectful.


Marsh
thats to a Older Poster
Do not be silly,


Do you have a view on working till
the age of 74,
If you do please post something......

[Scarlett.]

Of course the young are not slaves
no one said they were
with respect.

Yes there is more to life than just work,
but LT was referring to
some Lazy young who do nothing, all day.
All Night.



Who are these mythical 'young people'?

[Amy Jade]

Who are these mythical 'young people'?

I've been asking for ages lol

[arista]

What have lazy youths got to do with working seven days a week
Colour me confused :conf:

It is like if you join the ARMY
you work 7 days a week etc.

[Marsh.]

Marsh
thats to a Older Poster
Do not be silly,


Do you have a view on working till
the age of 74,
If you do please post something......

I would have if this thread was a an actual discussion about something.

All I see is you calling everyone lazy unless they spend their lives as wage slaves.

[Ashley.]

Do not be silly,

I don't think Marsh is the one being silly, here.

[Marsh.]

It is like if you join the ARMY
you work 7 days a week etc.

And joining the army is A CHOICE. Like any other job.

[arista]

Who are these mythical 'young people'?

No time for Folk Tales
Chewy.

There are plenty young that refuse to work,
its a terrible way to be.
The Fact that you do not know any
is a good thing , Chewy.
It means you are in a zone of better folks
so to speak.

[Ashley.]

No time for Folk Tales
Chewy.

There are plenty young that refuse to work,
its a terrible way to be.
The Fact that you do not know any
is a good thing , Chewy.
It means you are in a zone of better folks
so to speak.

So you're saying that people who are too lazy to work, should work seven days a week? As what, punishment?

Help us out a bit Arista, you're argument is making absolutely no sense whatsoever.

[Marsh.]

Where are these plenty young that refuse to work?

And how is 7 day week wage slaving them going to motivate them?

[DemolitionRed]

Maybe you should join the army Arista. A bit of hard work may do you good.

[arista]

I dont think you should get weekends off until you are 40, young people should be forced to work 7 days a week the lazy buggers and it would help the economy

Note Bank of England sharply raised the 2017 growth outlook from 0.8% to 2% :rolleyes:

maybe carney should have shut his trap about the EU as he now has egg on his smug face. I may have a look in some old SD threads to see what members were riding on the back of the 0.8% forecast and predicting brexit doom and gloom, I think I can recall at least one....


This is the 7 Days a week for the young that are Lazy

[arista]

Maybe you should join the army Arista. A bit of hard work may do you good.


I have Done my bit.


I am now a Manager

[Marsh.]

I have Done my bit.


I am now a Manager

"Manager"

The epitome of a hard worker. :joker: So many jobs have "manager" in the title these days.

I'm "Pen Manager" at work too.

[DemolitionRed]

I have Done my bit.


I am now a Manager

So you keep saying!

[Amy Jade]

I literally have no idea what you are saying.

Have I got this right; should a young person not work they should be made to - and forced to work 7 days a week. Those who work already even under small contracts are absoloutely fine to work lesser hours?

[Kizzy]

No Kizzy
Its more Simple
like LT said
the YOUNG
must WORK HARDER
the lazy buggers...............

There are Young workers
that have Climbed the Ladder Fast
but they are so god at Math.

Hard working young workers
earn big money.
FACT

The young are NOT 'lazy buggers' they will however have to work till they die thanks to greedy buggers.

[Kizzy]

The average life expectancy for women in the UK is currently 82.8 years, compared to 79.1 years for men.


So they give you 5yrs before you are expected to die, generous.

https://www.nursingtimes.net/roles/older-people-nurses/uk-patients-are-living-longer-but-with-more-ailments/5089907.article

[Marsh.]

No Kizzy
Its more Simple
like LT said
the YOUNG
must WORK HARDER


Work harder for what purpose?

[arista]

The young are NOT 'lazy buggers' they will however have to work till they die thanks to greedy buggers.


Of course Kizzy
not all young are Lazy.


However , there is some
that refuse to work
they are the young
that LT and myself are talking about,

[VanessaFeltz.]

Look its simple
by working 7 days a week
contracts are done.
Then they move onto the 2nd contact
Each day they get paid
All Legal.

If you work 7 days a week till you are 73 then what is the meaning of life? We should be working so we can enjoy the good stuff about life. If that is life then we should just kill ourselves, because that is slavery

[Amy Jade]

Of course Kizzy
not all young are Lazy.


However , there is some
that refuse to work
they are the young
that LT and myself are talking about,

I know more people in their 30s and 40s who don't work than in their 20s

Do you have anything to back that claim up?

[arista]

Work harder for what purpose?

For Great Britain
of course


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/Satellite_image_of_Great_Britain_and_Northern_Irel and_in_April_2002.jpg/260px-Satellite_image_of_Great_Britain_and_Northern_Irel and_in_April_2002.jpg

[arista]

I know more people in their 30s and 40s who don't work than in their 20s

Do you have anything to back that claim up?

In WW3 they will be Frontline

[arista]

If you work 7 days a week till you are 73 then what is the meaning of life? We should be working so we can enjoy the good stuff about life. If that is life then we should just kill ourselves, because that is slavery


No as the young get older
they will not be working 7 days a week.

but all will work until 74 years of age
that is now set in place

you should be Happy in your work,

[Kazanne]

Retire now luvvie, nobody wants to see that. xoxo

:joker::joker:

[Ashley.]

you should be Happy in your work,

I'm extremely content - but that doesn't mean I wish to work long hours until I'm on my last legs.

[Marsh.]

For Great Britain
of course


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/Satellite_image_of_Great_Britain_and_Northern_Irel and_in_April_2002.jpg/260px-Satellite_image_of_Great_Britain_and_Northern_Irel and_in_April_2002.jpg

You want me to spend my life working like a slave to serve the state?

*kills self*

[Kizzy]

Of course Kizzy
not all young are Lazy.


However , there is some
that refuse to work
they are the young
that LT and myself are talking about,

There is no option to refuse to work, you and LT don't know what you're talking about.

[arista]

You want me to spend my life working like a slave to serve the state?

*kills self*


No Marsh
when you are older
you will be seated
so all is well.

[Kizzy]

In WW3 they will be Frontline

There will be no frontline for WW3, but I share your view that the young are simply seen as cannon fodder.

[Marsh.]

No Marsh
when you are older
you will be seated
so all is well.

I don't give a piddly sh*t.

I'm supposed to work 24/7 for 74+ years and you're giving me a chair?

PISS OFF

[arista]

There is no option to refuse to work, you and LT don't know what you're talking about.


Correct
they go off grid

[arista]

I don't give a piddly sh*t.

I'm supposed to work 24/7 for 74+ years and you're giving me a chair?

PISS OFF



No Marsh
when you are Older
you will work 5 days a week,


Working until 74 years old
is not a problem
for many.

[Brillopad]

No-one should be expected to work 7 days a week - that would be something that would be worth protesting about.

[Kizzy]

Correct
they go off grid

Where are all these off grid young people?

[arista]

There will be no frontline for WW3, but I share your view that the young are simply seen as cannon fodder.



No way you can say that
things change fast 24/7
We can not Predict who starts it.
But plans are made up ready
as normal.

[arista]

Where are all these off grid young people?


Yes they are being tracked
or arrested for criminal behavior

[arista]

No-one should be expected to work 7 days a week - that would be something that would be worth protesting about.


Yes Protest Away.


changes nothing

[Ashley.]

Working until 74 years old
is not a problem
for many.

How could you possible know that?

[arista]

How could you possible know that?

Because
Checks are made
and Projected,
This why its debated in all newspapers
and TV and Radio
from the end of last week.......

[Amy Jade]

This must be a joke thread. I can't.

[Mystic Mock]

No Amy
Nurses get days off
because its hard work and some
old folks die while they are working.


LT is talking about Lazy young buggers
they can work 7 days a week
paid for each DAY


OK AMY



We need you Reporting on this
soon.
SkyNews4K news will be good soon.


Even some SkyAtlanticHD shows are also on 4K
for those with SkyQ

I do not have that
due to the remote control change,
on the new SkyQ.

Do you work 7 days a week Arista?:smug:

[Nicky91]

This must be a joke thread. I can't.

me neither :fan:

[DemolitionRed]

Arista, you keep trying to give us the impression that you are someone important and that government officials, particularly in the U.S. are listening to you're ideas.

When you are ready to come back down to earth and get back to being your normal fun self, we will stop ridiculing everything you say... I promise.

[user104658]

Arista, you keep trying to give us the impression that you are someone important and that government officials, particularly in the U.S. are listening to you're ideas.

When you are ready to come back down to earth and get back to being your normal fun self, we will stop ridiculing everything you say... I promise.
I don't think arista actually exists, I think a tiny pocket of Internet code mutated into some sort of rudimentary AI that is now just stuck here posting increasingly bizarre things.

I've asked around the oldest serving members.

NO ONE KNOWS WHERE HE CAME FROM or what his deal is. No one. People who have been here from the very start! It's a mystery wrapped in an enigma.

[Kizzy]

Yes they are being tracked
or arrested for criminal behavior

Do you mean tagged? all ages are tagged not just the young.

[arista]

I don't think arista actually exists, I think a tiny pocket of Internet code mutated into some sort of rudimentary AI that is now just stuck here posting increasingly bizarre things.

I've asked around the oldest serving members.

NO ONE KNOWS WHERE HE CAME FROM or what his deal is. No one. People who have been here from the very start! It's a mystery wrapped in an enigma.

How Nice TS

[Brillopad]

How Nice TS

A very dignified response to a post going off-track and concentrating on a poster rather than post content. Well said.

[Jack_]

How Nice TS

:joker:

[Kizzy]

A very dignified response to a post going off-track and concentrating on a poster rather than post content. Well said.

'Get over yourself in thinking you have the right to tell me how to think. There is nothing untrue in anything I have said. You just blindly defend because it is PC to do so. No thought processes required.'

Remove the splinter from your own eye.

[Brillopad]

'Get over yourself in thinking you have the right to tell me how to think. There is nothing untrue in anything I have said. You just blindly defend because it is PC to do so. No thought processes required.'

Remove the splinter from your own eye.

My eye is splinter-free thanks. Not so sure about yours though.

[Cherie]

So bringing this back to the actual topic, would it be fair to have a two tiered pension system one where anyone who works in a physically demanding job, or a job that puts the public at risk for instance long distance lorry drivers should have an earlier retirement age than someone who has a desk bound job? i think this would work, it might cause resentment but even the current retirement age of 67 is not suited to many workers who work in a physically demanding environment.

[arista]

So bringing this back to the actual topic, would it be fair to have a two tiered pension system one where anyone who works in a physically demanding job, or a job that puts the public at risk for instance long distance lorry drivers should have an earlier retirement age than someone who has a desk bound job? i think this would work, it might cause resentment but even the current retirement age of 67 is not suited to many workers who work in a physically demanding environment.


Yes Cherie
the pension system
needs a update.


On all Long Runs
Truck Drivers , by law ,
they have to have rests
and they do, on each long drive etc,

[Cherie]

Yes Cherie
the pension system
needs a update.


On all Long Runs
Truck Drivers , by law ,
they have to have rests
and they do, on each long drive etc,

Yeah I know but as you get older eyesight deteriorates, your concentration and reflexes won't be as sharp, etc etc

[Kizzy]

So bringing this back to the actual topic, would it be fair to have a two tiered pension system one where anyone who works in a physically demanding job, or a job that puts the public at risk for instance long distance lorry drivers should have an earlier retirement age than someone who has a desk bound job? i think this would work, it might cause resentment but even the current retirement age of 67 is not suited to many workers who work in a physically demanding environment.

Lorry drivers are assessed regularly, they can't just trundle along until they retire. But I agree with what you say what jobs are suitable for doddery old dears?
As stated we are living longer but due to age related change and chronic illness they are not healthy years, so are we going to see jobcenters crowded with OAPs trawling their oxygen tanks behind them to sign on?

[DemolitionRed]

So bringing this back to the actual topic, would it be fair to have a two tiered pension system one where anyone who works in a physically demanding job, or a job that puts the public at risk for instance long distance lorry drivers should have an earlier retirement age than someone who has a desk bound job? i think this would work, it might cause resentment but even the current retirement age of 67 is not suited to many workers who work in a physically demanding environment.

Airline pilots presently retire at 55. Its the same for the police and fire service, though paramedics now have to work much longer. Special forces retire at 40.

The thing is, a state pension is worth nothing and most people have private pensions. It just means a lot more people will take out private pension funds or invest enough to ensure they can retire at a reasonable age.

[Kizzy]

Airline pilots presently retire at 55. Its the same for the police and fire service, though paramedics now have to work much longer. Special forces retire at 40.

The thing is, a state pension is worth nothing and most people have private pensions. It just means a lot more people will take out private pension funds or invest enough to ensure they can retire at a reasonable age.

Ah right, it's to get people to gamble on putting their money in something that there is a risk it will be lost?...Yep sounds like a tory scheme.

People will be going back to keeping it under the mattress soon :laugh:

[DemolitionRed]

Ah right, it's to get people to gamble on putting their money in something that there is a risk it will be lost?...Yep sounds like a tory scheme.

People will be going back to keeping it under the mattress soon :laugh:

Sad to say but we live in a dog eat dog system now. Look how Arista calls his workforce 'plebs' :shrug:

Our children will raise their children in a country with only a private health care system, no state pension, state schools that only teach the basics and a community who spit on homeless people in the street.

Elderly people are already being encouraged to take loans out on their properties because they can't afford to keep warm or they go into a nursing home that on average costs them £1,000 a week. This sort of thing ensures their children lose any hope of an inheritance.

Getting old in this country is a frightening prospect because the government has been screwing with the state pension for years. By the time we are old, there will be no state pension.

[arista]

"Getting old in this country
is a frightening prospect
because the government...."

Yes DR
fair point
but stay positive
if you can............

[arista]

Yeah I know but as you get older eyesight deteriorates, your concentration and reflexes won't be as sharp, etc etc

That can be Corrected now
Laser Eye Surgery
works well

[arista]

Arista, you keep trying to give us the impression that you are someone important and that government officials, particularly in the U.S. are listening to you're ideas.

When you are ready to come back down to earth and get back to being your normal fun self, we will stop ridiculing everything you say... I promise.

USA
follow the money
If a Idea works - they will use it.


If you and I met
you would find a Grounded Manager

[DemolitionRed]

"Getting old in this country
is a frightening prospect
because the government...."

Yes DR
fair point
but stay positive
if you can............

Stay positive?!?
Its people like you that make me want to jump off the nearest bridge.

[arista]

Stay positive?!?
Its people like you that make me want to jump off the nearest bridge.


Sure DR
with a new Back Pack
that has powered flying
mini hi tech battery takes you down
to the Edge of the Fantastic River

[DemolitionRed]

Sure DR
with a new Back Pack
that has powered flying
mini hi tech battery takes you down
to the Edge of the Fantastic River

:laugh2:

[Kizzy]

Hey DR! don't you be getting all despondent on me you, look at this...

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/people-power-raises-360-000-for-low-cost-leeds-housing-1-8367972

No matter how bad it gets, there will always be good people x

[DemolitionRed]

Hey DR! don't you be getting all despondent on me you, look at this...

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/people-power-raises-360-000-for-low-cost-leeds-housing-1-8367972

No matter how bad it gets, there will always be good people x

I know, fortunately I'm surrounded by nice people in my life. By the way Kizzy, you look really nice in that pic :wink:

[arista]

Hey DR! don't you be getting all despondent on me you, look at this...

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/people-power-raises-360-000-for-low-cost-leeds-housing-1-8367972

No matter how bad it gets, there will always be good people x

Yes Kizzy
thank you for posting the
Yorkshire local paper link.

[Cherie]

Lorry drivers are assessed regularly, they can't just trundle along until they retire. But I agree with what you say what jobs are suitable for doddery old dears?
As stated we are living longer but due to age related change and chronic illness they are not healthy years, so are we going to see jobcenters crowded with OAPs trawling their oxygen tanks behind them to sign on?


Tell that to the families of the people killed by the bin lorry in Glasgow, he managed to hide his heart condition pretty well

[Kizzy]

Tell that to the families of the people killed by the bin lorry in Glasgow, he managed to hide his heart condition pretty well

People can have heart conditions at any age, what I'm saying is lorry drivers are more likely than any profession to be continually assessed. Of course that can't prevent every incident.

I work at a depot, the drivers are assessed annually.

[Cherie]

People can have heart conditions at any age, what I'm saying is lorry drivers are more likely than any profession to be continually assessed. Of course that can't prevent every incident.

I work at a depot, the drivers are assessed annually.


It backs up my point though they are unlikely to be able to work until they are 74 and if there is no pension before then, they will have to seek medical disability (if it still exists) so working until 74 is just not possible in some professions

[arista]

People can have heart conditions at any age, what I'm saying is lorry drivers are more likely than any profession to be continually assessed. Of course that can't prevent every incident.

I work at a depot, the drivers are assessed annually.

Very True Kizzy
I had a mate in France
he looked OK
but in France they avoid the doctor
more than we do.
There are tablets that protect the heart
if you are at the age he was
it is important, to take a small tablet
every single day.
It is not that hard to do.


Tragic that so many avoid this small protection tablet
from you GP etc.

Not Paracetamol , by the way.

[smudgie]

4 and a half days would make for a better life.
Join a pension scheme and try and save a bit for retirement. Not easy when you are paying rent/ mortgage etc and bringing up kids, but every bit helps.

Thanks to the Tories, your private pension is protected now, 100% if you are already getting it ( up to a really high cap) , 90% if it goes belly up while you are still under pension age and working.

[Brillopad]

Very True Kizzy
I had a mate in France
he looked OK
but in France they avoid the doctor
more than we do.
There are tablets that protect the heart
if you are at the age he was
it is important, to take a small tablet
every single day.
It is not that hard to do.


Tragic that so many avoid this small protection tablet
from you GP etc.


Not Paracetamol , by the way.

Probably Aspirin which thins the blood preventing clots, which can cause a heart attack.

[arista]

It backs up my point though they are unlikely to be able to work until they are 74 and if there is no pension before then, they will have to seek medical disability (if it still exists) so working until 74 is just not possible in some professions


No Cherie
the Free Company Doctor ensures they take their
daily tablet.


All workers will be happy
and work until 74 years old


The Young Tibbers must learn this

[arista]

Probably Aspirin which thins the blood preventing clots, which can cause a heart attack.


Not Aspirin

[DemolitionRed]

Statins. My dads on them.

[arista]

4 and a half days would make for a better life.
Join a pension scheme and try and save a bit for retirement. Not easy when you are paying rent/ mortgage etc and bringing up kids, but every bit helps.

Thanks to the Tories, your private pension is protected now, 100% if you are already getting it ( up to a really high cap) , 90% if it goes belly up while you are still under pension age and working.


visit your GP
ensure you are on the right meds.
is first
for many.

[DemolitionRed]

The Young Tibbers must learn this

Stop it... ffs just stop it!

[arista]

Stop it... ffs just stop it!


No need to stop
they all read this
sadly only a few post , though

[Kizzy]

Very True Kizzy
I had a mate in France
he looked OK
but in France they avoid the doctor
more than we do.
There are tablets that protect the heart
if you are at the age he was
it is important, to take a small tablet
every single day.
It is not that hard to do.


Tragic that so many avoid this small protection tablet
from you GP etc.

Not Paracetamol , by the way.

Is it Warfarin? Hope he's ok.

[arista]

Statins. My dads on them.


That's one of them
yes.

[DemolitionRed]

Is the other one Viagra ?

[DemolitionRed]

Not everyone needs this small tablet btw. It all depends on cholesterol levels.

[arista]

Is it Warfarin? Hope he's ok.


No he sadly died
Massive Heart Attack

His Wife is still in upset
months after
as she had no idea
there are tablets that protect you.

France
nothing like the UK
in many ways

[arista]

Not everyone needs this small tablet btw. It all depends on cholesterol levels.


Its not Just that

Smokers risk Massive Heart Attacks
they do not even know that?????

[Kizzy]

High cholesterol and diabetes are controllable chronic illnesses but how about early onset dementia, osteoporosis, arthritis?
These age related changes are not conducive to working life.

[arista]

Is the other one Viagra ?

no its a long name.

[DemolitionRed]

France has a fantastic health care system. I would far rather see a doctor in France than in the UK. They are especially good at preventative medicine.

[Brillopad]

no its a long name.

Bendroflumethiazide which is a diuretic and used to treat high blood pressure.

[DemolitionRed]

no its a long name. probably something like
Ramipril or Metoprolol or was it Rosuvastatin?

[Kizzy]

diazepam?... :laugh:

[smudgie]

Clopidogrel?

[DemolitionRed]

Ticagrelor?

[DemolitionRed]

diazepam?... :laugh:

yes please!

[Kizzy]

If I'm expected to work till 74 best get them ready or ****!

:joker::joker:

[arista]

Bendroflumethiazide which is a diuretic and used to treat high blood pressure.

yes its that type

So many men
and women have no idea.
Until its a Massive Fatal Heart Attack

[arista]

probably something like
Ramipril or Metoprolol or was it Rosuvastatin?

They found out
that's not so good , now.

[DemolitionRed]

They found out
that's not so good , now.

Really?
Rosuvastatin is one of the best statins for lowering LDL and Rosuvastatin has fewer side effects than other Statins because it works on a much lower dose.

[Cherie]

Is the other one Viagra ?

LT isn't here to confirm :fan:


This thread :joker:

[Kizzy]

LT isn't here to confirm :fan:


This thread :joker:

Are you two a thing now... you mention him a lot Cherie :fan:

[DemolitionRed]

LT isn't here to confirm :fan:


This thread :joker:

Said he wouldn't be here tonight. He was feeling a bit stiff :blush:

[Cherie]

Are you two a thing now... you mention him a lot Cherie :fan:

How dare you :oh: I'm a happily married woman, I do love LT though :fan: he can be my forum husband :hee:

[Cherie]

Said he wouldn't be here tonight. He was feeling a bit stiff :blush:

He is banned from SD under the new regime which is top secret from members :idc:

[Kizzy]

He is banned from SD under the new regime which is top secret from members :idc:

I knew about it :idc:

[arista]

He is banned from SD under the new regime which is top secret from members :idc:


Not for long