New : The Moorside (Shannon Mathews) drama BBC1HD 9PM Tues. 7th

[arista]

A two part drama
on this grim story
from 2008.

T-shirt and all.

Gemma Whelan plays the nasty mother
making cash over her daughter missing,

[Firewire]

Love Sheridan Smith so this should be good

[Marsh.]

Sheridan sober again? :fc:

[Firewire]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/03/19/09/325BA5FF00000578-0-image-a-44_1458381318395.jpg

Pissed-up Shez?

[Marsh.]

Aww she's gone back to her plain Royle Family days :love:

[Firewire]

Emma :love:

[Marsh.]

Bit bored of her playing real people now. :oh:

Play a witch or summat girl!

[LucyPinder'sLover]

A two-part drama about the search in 2008 for missing Yorkshire schoolgirl Shannon Matthews. Starring Sheridan Smith & Siobhan Finneran It Looks Like A Rather Good Watch.
Heres The Trailer For Tonights Show.

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[Crimson Dynamo]

yes that looks good

SS is very good in general

[LucyPinder'sLover]

yes that looks good

SS is very good in general

Oh Yes I Love Sheridan Smith Always Have Since She Was In The Royle Family

[Cherie]

I'm not sure how I feel about this, Shannon now has a new identity and is living apart from all her family, her grandparents were never consulted about this at all, it seems very unfair to drag it up again. Imagine if a drama was made about Ian Huntley, it seems very insensitive and inappropriate, Shannon is 18 now so maybe the programme makers contacted her though this seems unlikely.

[Cal.]

It looks very good. I'm looking forward to it.

[Josy]

Anyone watch the first part of this last night?

A 2 part series about the fake kidnapping of Shannon Matthews...

[Withano]

I was gonna watch it this morning but I wanted a shower and didnt have time for both! I'll watch it tonight for sure.

[Withano]

Was it good?

[Kazanne]

Anyone watch the first part of this last night?

A 2 part series about the fake kidnapping of Shannon Matthews...

I watched it , the acting was really good , not sure how I feel about it being shown though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I enjoyed it but i love SS

well enjoyed it in so far as you can with the subject matter

[Cherie]

I watched it , the acting was really good , not sure how I feel about it being shown though.

Same

[Shaun]

Great TV. Gemma Whelan and Sheridan Smith were both good.

[Denver]

Loved it

[Cherie]

Shannon is 18 now I wonder what she thought

[Shaun]

Am I right in thinking she's now living under a pseudonym?

[Cherie]

Am I right in thinking she's now living under a pseudonym?

Yes,, I can't imagine at 18 what it would be like to watch a "drama" about your kidnapping or even to know it is being aired, it must drag up a lot of unwanted memories. It was clear from the foreword that no consent was given

[Tom4784]

Yes,, I can't imagine at 18 what it would be like to watch a "drama" about your kidnapping or even to know it is being aired, it must drag up a lot of unwanted memories. It was clear from the foreword that no consent was given

I was gonna watch it on demand until I saw this, I do loathe it when dramatisations of traumatic events are created without the victim's (or their family's in cases of death) permission.

[Kazanne]

I did feel a bit uncomfortable watching it as this was someones life as they knew it destroyed, and like Cherie ,I wondered what Shannon herself would have thought watching that if she did.

[LukeB]

I found this amazing last night, great acting from Sheridan. Looking forward for the final part.

[Nicky91]

i watched it, could've been better but not bad as for the acting :)

[thesheriff443]

I was channel flicking

[Cal.]

I could have sworn there was already a thread I swear I was posting somewhere about it yesterday.

But yeah I thoroughly enjoyed it and looking forward to the final part.

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/most-hated-mum-britain-karen-9439985

[Tozzie]

I live a couple of minutes away from where Shannon was found and the estate is a five minute drive. Council estates get lots of bad press but this community showed how they all rallied round and came together in such a shocking event. I really enjoyed the first one and looking forward to the second one. We can only hope that Shannon can overcome and be stronger as a person from the evil wrongdoings of her so called mother. I truly hope she can be happy in the rest of her life.

[Shaun]

Second episode has been brilliant, one of the best episodes of British TV in a long, long time

[Pete.]

A tad amazing :clap1:

[Cal.]

An amazing episode :love:

Shezza, Sian, Gemma and Siobhan were fantastic.

[Cal.]

(Sian in particular I think)

[Daniel-X]

Amazing episode. Much better than the first. Shame it OBVIOUSLY has to be a one off cos the cast were FANTASTIC and worked great together.

[Daniel-X]

Whoever played Nataleh was fantastic

[Cal.]

Whoever played Nataleh was fantastic

Sian :love:

[LukeB]

Both episodes were amazing and all of them acted really well especially Sheridan :clap1:

[Shaun]

Think it's quite likely that most - if any - accolades for this will just go to Sheridan when she's already so acclaimed. Think Gemma Whelan was by far the most compelling actress here.

[Braden]

Watching episode 1 now.

A slight horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach throughout it all.

[Denver]

Fantastic series and great acting all round

[Braden]

What the ****, did Karen genuinely get up and start dancing to the police woman's ringtone? And was Shannon's step-dad literally only playing games throughout the whole ordeal?

It's hard to gain perspective on what is dramatised in these kinds of programmes. I can't believe it was produced with Shannon not knowing too.

[LukeB]

What the ****, did Karen genuinely get up and start dancing to the police woman's ringtone? And was Shannon's step-dad literally only playing games throughout the whole ordeal?

It's hard to gain perspective on what is dramatised in these kinds of programmes. I can't believe it was produced with Shannon not knowing too.

Yeah, from the things I was reading that was when the police started to suspect something was wrong and the step dad was always on his computer. Karen's friends had some imput on the script as well

[Braden]

Yeah, from the things I was reading that was when the police started to suspect something was wrong and the step dad was always on his computer. Karen's friends had some imput on the script as well

My god, so ****ed up.

I take it this is the woman who Sheridan Smith is playing:

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I wonder why producers never portrayed the character as someone who was more suspicious of Karen.

[Marsh.]

What the ****, did Karen genuinely get up and start dancing to the police woman's ringtone? And was Shannon's step-dad literally only playing games throughout the whole ordeal?

It's hard to gain perspective on what is dramatised in these kinds of programmes. I can't believe it was produced with Shannon not knowing too.

Unfortunately, yes. And the little details like them spotting the lies about sitting having breakfast around the table and stuff.

[LukeB]

My god, so ****ed up.

I take it this is the woman who Sheridan Smith is playing:

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I wonder why producers never portrayed the character as someone who was more suspicious of Karen.

yeah the one of the left and on the right is Natalie Brown who Sian Brooke plays who was more suspicious of Karen, which you will see throughout the first episode.

[Braden]

So the police were on to them quite fast then. It;s so weird to think I just started senior school when this happened.

Also, just realised Natalie is Sian Brooke's character, not Sheridan Smith. Sian is a fantastic actress.

[Cal.]

How no one didn't listen to Natalie irl is beyond me.

When someone's best friend thinks something's up, then something's up.

Even stuff like Karen not caring where her remaining children stayed whilst she went partying until Natalie offered to put them to bed in her house for her.

[LukeB]

How no one didn't listen to Natalie irl is beyond me.

When someone's best friend thinks something's up, then something's up.

Even stuff like Karen not caring where her remaining children stayed whilst she went partying until Natalie offered to put them to bed in her house for her.

Karen was quite convincing tbh and their focus was more on finding Shannon really so it went over their heads.

[LukeB]

the whole idea was a bit dumb, she was going to get caught either way. A scruffy person getting loads of money after getting their kid back will make people suspicious anyway and the person who held shannon hostage was linked to Karen and would have been found out.

[Marsh.]

the whole idea was a bit dumb, she was going to get caught either way. A scruffy person getting loads of money after getting their kid back will make people suspicious anyway and the person who held her hostage was linked to Karen and would have been found out.

I think their plan was to leave Shannon somewhere remote to be "found" once they'd gotten what they wanted.

But, yeah, they were so inept and bad liars they'd have been sussed anyway.

[Denver]

The reason why it took so long was because there was no proof to suggest she was involved

[Marsh.]

She should've been locked up for inflicting that awful fringe on poor Shannon.

[Babayaro.]

Was fantastic! :clap1:

Every single actor did a great job.

[LukeB]

I think their plan was to leave Shannon somewhere remote to be "found" once they'd gotten what they wanted.

But, yeah, they were so inept and bad liars they'd have been sussed anyway.

oh yeah true but it would have been linked to Karen regardless because of the whole money thing since she was so sure she was going to pull it off and share the money but she wasn't intelligent enough to pull this off thats why she was caught.

[LukeB]

She should've been locked up for inflicting that awful fringe on poor Shannon.

She should be locked up for life,dirty scum

[LucyPinder'sLover]

It Was A Good Little Series.

[Braden]

idk why, but I'm actually shocked how much of a moron Karen was after Shannon was found. Had no idea Craig was arrested for (what I assume was) child porn on his computer.

[Ross.]

This was really good

[Marsh.]

I find Natalie and Karen's friendship so hard to believe given how it was portrayed.

Like Karen was a complete immature, lazy, horrid child with an idiot pervert boyfriend and given Natalie's attitude towards stuff like that how she was ever friends with her is baffling.

[Marsh.]

Julie and Natalie's Cagney and Lacey spin off incoming? :fc:

[Braden]

The scene in the police car is so intense.

I felt that the portrayal of Karen was quite off-putting and unbelievable at first, but I've realised that's because she's an off-putting and unbelievable person. The things like her dancing to the ringtone and waving randomly at people in the park are moments that I just can't get my head round, but it says a lot about the actress who played her. It's eerie because I wasn't sure if some of the footage was the actress or Karen herself.

[Braden]

I find Natalie and Karen's friendship so hard to believe given how it was portrayed.

Like Karen was a complete immature, lazy, horrid child with an idiot pervert boyfriend and given Natalie's attitude towards stuff like that how she was ever friends with her is baffling.

I thought this too.

She came across differently to how she was in the clip on This Morning. I can't picture her as someone Karen would be scared could potentially 'batter' her.

[Braden]

Just finished watching episode 2.

It was a great two-part series, and the acting was brilliant (loved that the main cast were all female-lead). I feel bad for referring to Karen as a moron now I'm aware of her mental health issues, but that obviously does not entirely excuse her contribution to such a heinous act.

I just hope at some point, at all, Shannon can find happiness in her life.

[Firewire]

Haven't watched part 2 yet but part 1 was outstanding

Gemma, Sheridan and Sian were all absolutely breathtakingly good

[Marsh.]

It is amazing how well they got the whole ordeal across without "Shannon" appearing onscreen once other than the picture used by the press.

[Denver]

It is amazing how well they got the whole ordeal across without "Shannon" appearing onscreen once other than the picture used by the press.

They always made it clear that it would be about everyone but Shannon so i am not surprised

[Marsh.]

They always made it clear that it would be about everyone but Shannon so i am not surprised

No, I never said I was surprised she didn't appear.

I meant it's a testament to how well made it was that the actual victim of the entire ordeal didn't even have to appear onscreen for them to portray the actual disgusting actions of those involved and how it had a knock-on effect.

Also, on another note, nice shout out to David Cameron in episode 2 with the newspaper headline. People like him are a huge part of the problem when it comes to never ending cycles of abuse in families/communities like this. They are no help at all.

[arista]

Anyone watch the first part of this last night?

A 2 part series about the fake kidnapping of Shannon Matthews...




Posted on the 5th.
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=316523

Posted the 7th
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=316599


And this 3rd thread Topic you posted on the 8th
Josy.

This section is left alot
so many threads are doubled and left,
after the Sub sections got cancelled,
I am sure you Josy
were not aware of the other threads
but if possible
can all 3 threads become one thread?


At least Admin are better than mods
at fixing this.

[Deirdre]

I see people are a little annoyed that Karen was portrayed as a victim. I was surprised with this angle too, very different to what we've been told in the media. I was under the impression it was well-thought out, pre-meditated plan, but this drama claims it was something that got completely out of hand. I guess we'll never really know the truth because Karen is a compulsive liar.
Brilliant second episode though, even though we all know the outcome, I was completely hooked.

[Marsh.]

I see people are a little annoyed that Karen was portrayed as a victim. I was surprised with this angle too, very different to what we've been told in the media. I was under the impression it was well-thought out, pre-meditated plan, but this drama claims it was something that got completely out of hand. I guess we'll never really know the truth because Karen is a compulsive liar.
Brilliant second episode though, even though we all know the outcome, I was completely hooked.

I didn't see it as portraying her as a victim but rather portraying the perpetrators as not quite the "Evil" the newspapers (and David Cameron) liked to label them, but as people dealt an awful hand in life, with sh*t stuff in her life causing her to become what she did and mix with the people she did.

Sheridan's speech in the courthouse about not joining in with the "lynch mob" was really thoughtful.

[Braden]

Interesting article about the accuracies of the show:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017/02/15/moorside-five-things-bbc-got-wrong-shannon-matthews-case/amp/

I didn't actually think the accents were noticeably bad. However, that's probably because I'm not familiar with the area.

[arista]

A Live debate
on Her Ex , who was found out to be a
paedophile, by accident at the same time
as her arrest,
at 9:34AM Ch5HD AM
said we the Tax payers must pay another
£50,000 to get he Moved for a 6th time.

Last time he was found
he was beaten
unconscious.

One Lady on the panel
said by moving him a long way,
away - it would be more cost effective,

[Crimson Dynamo]

just realised where the copper lady made her name

rita sue and bob too

:joker:


http://images.static-bluray.com/reviews/9883_1_large.jpg

[Vicky.]

A Live debate
on Her Ex , who was found out to be a
paedophile, by accident at the same time
as her arrest,
at 9:34AM Ch5HD AM
said we the Tax payers must pay another
£50,000 to get he Moved for a 6th time.

Last time he was found
he was beaten
unconscious.

One Lady on the panel
said by moving him a long way,
away - it would be more cost effective,
Ohh what a shame. I feel soooo bad for him...

Should have chopped his dick off too tbh

[Denver]

Move him to Syria then

[arista]

Ohh what a shame. I feel soooo bad for him...

Should have chopped his dick off too tbh


but he served his time in Jail

[arista]

just realised where the copper lady made her name

rita sue and bob too

:joker:


http://images.static-bluray.com/reviews/9883_1_large.jpg


Yes LT
a hard working Lady

[Denver]

but he served his time in Jail

Paedophiles should face the death penalty :idc:

[Vicky.]

but he served his time in Jail

A couple of years? Our 'justice' system is a ****ing joke. You get longer for not paying a bloody tv license ffs

[arista]

A couple of years? Our 'justice' system is a ****ing joke. You get longer for not paying a bloody tv license ffs


That's the System

One caller at the end of that Live debate
said he should be moved once
that's it. Then funding stops

[arista]

Paedophiles should face the death penalty :idc:


On that live debate
they noted he never touched a child
it was just on his computer.

So he was Guilty for kid porn on his computer
that's why only 2 years.

[Vicky.]

That's the System

One caller at the end of that Live debate
said he should be moved once
that's it. Then funding stops

Yes..doesn't mean I have to agree with it. When people get longer for money based 'crimes' than they do for abusing babies, there is something really bloody wrong.

[arista]

Yes..doesn't mean I have to agree with it. When people get longer for money based 'crimes' than they do for abusing babies, there is something really bloody wrong.



Yes For Sure
Vicky

[Crimson Dynamo]

like Marsh the friendship between the mum and sherian smith was bonkers

no way would they have been pals so i suspect they upper that characters intelligence/character in order to make the story work for tv

[Marsh.]

like Marsh the friendship between the mum and sherian smith was bonkers

no way would they have been pals so i suspect they upper that characters intelligence/character in order to make the story work for tv

That's not who I was talking about. :nono:

I was talking about Karen and Natalie.

Sheridan Smith played Julie. Her friendship made sense because she was all about helping people out at the community centre and getting them education. :hmph:

[Marsh.]

just realised where the copper lady made her name

rita sue and bob too

:joker:


http://images.static-bluray.com/reviews/9883_1_large.jpg

Benidorm and Happy Valley star too. :love:

[Marsh.]

Interesting article about the accuracies of the show:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017/02/15/moorside-five-things-bbc-got-wrong-shannon-matthews-case/amp/

I didn't actually think the accents were noticeably bad. However, that's probably because I'm not familiar with the area.

The only thing that stuck out to me were the actors playing Julie and Karen looked 20 years younger than their real life counterparts. :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

That's not who I was talking about. :nono:

I was talking about Karen and Natalie.

Sheridan Smith played Julie. Her friendship made sense because she was all about helping people out at the community centre and getting them education. :hmph:

I dont think they were even friends in the show

god it just shows you what a bunch of slapped arse hard faced old bags they all are from that region

:umm2:

[Marsh.]

I dont think they were even friends in the show

god it just shows you what a bunch of slapped arse hard faced old bags they all are from that region

:umm2:

:joker:

[y.winter]

watched it now. Wow, it was good and disturbing. I haven't heard of this case before.
Sheridan was truly impressive. :clap2:
I'm googling the whole incident and it's so weird seeing that it's actually real - the press conference and them holding the 50K prize poster. This is so twisted.