What killed BB?

[BigBruddah17]

It's not a secret that now BB is just a shadow of its former self, but why? Lots just blame it on CBB5 and I don't think that's entirely true because CBB is doing alot better than BBUK. So how do you think Big Brother died?

[Saph]

tbh it gets talked more about now than it did around bb10/bb11 when the show literally was dead

[Cal.]

It was the combination of Nikki returning to BB7, the CBB5 racism row and then the all female launch of BB8 all happening consecutively over the space of a year.

[Saph]

oh unless youre talking about just normal BB in which case, yeah its dead

[Cal.]

tbh it gets talked more about now than it did around bb10/bb11 when the show literally was dead

Yeah when you watch series' from that era back it seems really stale. Even civilian BB on C5 doesn't feel like that because they put a spin on it every year.

[Cal.]

And did anyone even watch CBB7?

[Cal.]

oh unless youre talking about just normal BB in which case, yeah its dead

Yeah when you watch series' from that era back it seems really stale. Even civilian BB on C5 doesn't feel like that because they put a spin on it every year.

Oh not this contrast.

[Jason.]

It was the combination of Nikki returning to BB7, the CBB5 racism row and then the all female launch of BB8 all happening consecutively over the space of a year.

This.

By BB7, the show had started to become contrived which no doubt put people off. CBB5 didn't help either with the stunt of putting Jade back in, culminating in the race row. But I think there was still a lot of hope for BB8 (its launch rated higher than BB6's two years prior) but the all-female launch and the awful production of that series turned even more people away. I also think scrapping 24/7 live feed during CBB6/BB10 didn't help either hence the worryingly low ratings for those two series at the time.

[Jason.]

And did anyone even watch CBB7?

Lmao, I think CBB7 was the highest rated series since BB8 at the time (and still is). It averaged 3.7m

Forgettable series though.

[Cal.]

Lmao, I think CBB7 was the highest rated series since BB8 at the time (and still is). It averaged 3.7m

Forgettable series though.

Oh wow at CBB6 getting the same as CBB13 and CBB15. That's amazing for Channel 5 considering they aired 5 and 6 years on from CBB6 and were on a lesser known channel.

[BigBruddah17]

By BB7, the show had started to become contrived which no doubt put people off

I agree about it being contrived but I don't think it put people off. BB7 is probably the series the GP like the most

[Greg!]

Why did the BB8 all female launch flop? I thought it was amazing (and tbh I would have loved that series with just the launch cast)

[Cal.]

I think because they were all wannabee WAGs/tabloid celebrities. All they all spoke about in the first few days was how they couldn't wait to be famous. :laugh:

[Greg!]

Hmm yeah I could see how that would annoy people but I found it hilarious how deluded they were especially legend Shabnam going on about getting "deals"

[Looper]

I think because they were all wannabee WAGs/tabloid celebrities. All they all spoke about in the first few days was how they couldn't wait to be famous. :laugh:

Definitely it's in the top 5 reasons it lost it's charm for some, especially for me. It wasn't too bad from BB 1-4, you had some of the female guests doing Zoo photo shoots and going to z list celeb parties. But I think personally with BB6 with the arrival of Orlaith is when I sensed the change of using BB just to up their profile. After that the flood gates opened with each passing series.

I do think the racist row did hurt the show immensely, it lost it's fun side with that. The Vote back in with Nikki from BB7 really hurt too. I think putting the show on longer instead of the eight weeks wasn't the smartest idea. I also think it just lost it's shine with a big audience. I think doing it every summer was a bad idea, they should have left it every two years.

For me BB1 to BB7 is it's peak years.

[Glenn.]

Jade

[Alf]

I think BB4 being so boring, was the turning point. After that, everything became forced and manufactured.

[reece(:]

The tackiness

[T*]

Channel 5.
They made it tacky af.
I'm very inclined to think BB was only going to be rested by C4 in prep for a big comeback a few years later to revive dwindling viewer numbers but obviously C5 got in the way of this.
I feel like, especially now, there is a desire for noughties-esque reality TV to bring it back instead of current shows that you can't help roll your eyes at :/ C4 BB could've filled that gap and that's such a shame. /rant

[thesheriff443]

People don't realise that the same people who made bb on channel4 moved to channel 5 over the years the main producer has changed but its the same old faces.
Bb died because it went from a reality show to a game show it got shorter and they started using agents to find house mates.

[Denver]

Davina in the diary room with the microphone

[Jake.]

A mixture of CBB5 & BB8. The audience for BB8 was there; it launched with 6.6 million viewers and had the 4th highest launch figure at the time or something? The all female cast didn't help but after the first week figures went downhill.

[Epic.]

Bear.

[RichardG]

a mixture of cbb5 and bb8 as has been mentioned, along with time i guess. not many shows can still retain high figures after seventeen years. i'm glad channel four axed it though, the show was very boring in its final years there. i do feel channel 5 have somewhat revived it and kept it fairly interesting, though obviously in a different way than the "golden years" of bb5-7 were interesting.

[looper007]

It was the combination of Nikki returning to BB7, the CBB5 racism row and then the all female launch of BB8 all happening consecutively over the space of a year.

Also I just think the public got tired of it, the show does have a self life imo.

I think when the fake romances, OTT housemates, Fame hungry wannabe's, Twist after Twist. Revolving Door of housemates in later series. The racism row definitely was a blow, and BB never really recovered ground and Channel 4 after that clearly wanted rid of BB.

[Eddie.]

By BB7, Endemol was obviously becoming very tacky, by dishing out twists every week (Big Brotherhood, Golden Ticket, The Other House and Nikki going back in for the last week), that were very poorly executed...and it was obvious that the end was coming...
CBB5's racism row made BB go downhill, fast, I think that's the main reason why BB got killed (even though BB13-BB14 era was a revival of sorts)...had the racist scandal not have happened, I think the casting for everything post Jan 2007, would have been on par with BB6...
But I think removing the 24/7 live feed, and the outside contact (David and Lisa's double decker bus task), both taking place during BB10, really made the GP lose faith in BB, especially due to the producers breaking the fundamental rule of BB...

[Alf]

Nikki going back in wasn't a new thing, it had already been done with Jon Tickle in BB4.

The Shilpa situation was good for publicity as it was shown on every main news show.

[Nicky91]

nothing, cause i still like BB, as long as they've got a couple of fun hm's, for a good laugh like Georgina and Charlotte i am happy

[Alf]

The constant changing of format is the reason. Mass amount of changes each year.

IACGMOOH have pretty much stuck to the same format, and the show is still as good as it was in the first series. For reality shows, this one looks timeless, but mass changes every year would destroy it.

[Daniel.]

Nikki going back in wasn't a new thing, it had already been done with Jon Tickle in BB4.

The Shilpa situation was good for publicity as it was shown on every main news show.

The Nikki thing was because she was elligible to win, and was more controversial than Jon

The Shilpa thing made people see Big Brother as dirty and unpleasant show that they wouldnt want to be seen watching

It is without doubt these two things and the BB8 All Female Launch that killed Big Brother.

[Alf]

The Nikki thing was because she was elligible to win, and was more controversial than Jon

The Shilpa thing made people see Big Brother as dirty and unpleasant show that they wouldnt want to be seen watching

It is without doubt these two things and the BB8 All Female Launch that killed Big Brother.People used to not admit they watched BB well before the Shilpa situation. It was seen as embarrassing well before that.

[Kazanne]

It's not a secret that now BB is just a shadow of its former self, but why? Lots just blame it on CBB5 and I don't think that's entirely true because CBB is doing alot better than BBUK. So how do you think Big Brother died?

Probaby lost it's luster when they started putting reality and z listers in,instead of normal everyday people who are not known.That killed it for me anyway.

[Daniel.]

People used to not admit they watched BB well before the Shilpa situation. It was seen as embarrassing well before that.

But in general it was a big show and everyone talked about it, CBB5 put people off and by BB8 no one was interested

[Eddie.]

CBB5, BBAUS6 and BB15US (possibly GH18 Spain), are the four most remembered BBs due to all the controversies surrounding it...

[Eddie.]

CBB5 for the obvious race row...
BBAUS 6 for the "Turkey Slap", "The Gretel Incident" and "Big Brother: Adults Only"
BB15US also for the racism
GH18 Spain for rape...

[Gstar]

Can we stop dragging the all female launch as it’s one of the best launch night twists ever, it gave us amazing drama and entertainment along with legendary female housemates

[Eddie.]

It didn't work back then in 2007, but with good casting, I think it could work out next year!

[reece(:]

It didn't work back then in 2007, but with good casting, I think it could work out next year!

But it was the best launch night cast? :think: