Lady GaGa - John Wayne [MV]

[Smithy]

o9iQ8lIfyEs

[Marsh.]

She knows just how to please me the gorgeous woman. :love:

[Smithy]

Screaming at her getting smacked in the face by a tree

[Jake.]

not my personal favourite but it's probably the most "single-ready" track the album has, and the timing is good

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Love it! Best of this era so far (and probably won't be topped).

[Smithy]

Ugh Gaga is BACK :flutter:

[Ross.]

Great choice

Let's forget the other two happened

[Marsh.]

Her getting hit in the face with a branch = me when I heard this news

[Xtopher]

Oh my gOD i NEED GUN HEELS. Planet Terror realness.

[Crimson Dynamo]

jknkXd7VKGA

not another JW song?

[TomC]

Omg I love it <3 She has delivered.

Hope this does well.

The sound effects in the video are lowkey annoying tho

[Jamie89]

Where can I watch it? :worry:

[Jamie89]

The link in the OP says 'private video' and I don't have permission to watch :bawling:

[Xtopher]

The link in the OP says 'private video' and I don't have permission to watch :bawling:

https://twitter.com/Musicnews_feed/status/829397898517438469

[Smithy]

The link in the OP says 'private video' and I don't have permission to watch :bawling:

The new one should work

[reece(:]

It's cute

[Jamie89]

https://twitter.com/Musicnews_feed/status/829397898517438469

The new one should work

Thank you (The twitter one cuts off a bit early though btw)

I love it :amazed: and the Planet Terror-esque leg/gun thing at the end ... Rose McGowan's impact :love:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I know i have knocked her etc but I remember her being introduced to the UK during a Pet Shop Boys commemorative at the brits about 8 years ago and i will admit i was wrong about her in the superbowl

I thought she was pretty good in what was a massive gig. she has balls, no doubting that. and i am not having a go i am being genuine

[Jake.]

I know i have knocked her etc but I remember her being introduced to the UK during a Pet Shop Boys commemorative at the brits about 8 years ago and i will admit i was wrong about her in the superbowl

I thought she was pretty good in what was a massive gig. she has balls, no doubting that. and i am not having a go i am being genuine

:clap1:

Not even saying this because I like her but I don't believe that any other modern day musician could be flung about the stage at the amount she was & still deliver vocal wise

[reece(:]

:clap1:

Not even saying this because I like her but I don't believe that any other modern day musician could be flung about the stage at the amount she was & still deliver vocal wise

P!nk already did it

[Jake.]

P!nk already did it

was literally about to post "besides pink" lol

[Jordan.]

here for the video, good at her stopping being boring for 3 minutes

[Crimson Dynamo]

i genuinely only found out this week she was gay


not that it matters but was this a secret?

[y.winter]

Weird song. But good for her for returning to her roots ans stop trying too hard with the quality-music-wannabe songs, it was just embarrassing.

[Marsh.]

Weird song. But good for her for returning to her roots ans stop trying too hard with the quality-music-wannabe songs, it was just embarrassing.

I don't understand. She's always done ballads as well as her "weird" stuff?

Quality-music-wannabe makes no sense.

[TomC]

Why does it say 'Released: 14 May 2017' on the Apple page? Surely it's not going to be another 3 months till it's actually released as a single?

[Marsh.]

Why does it say 'Released: 14 May 2017' on the Apple page? Surely it's not going to be another 3 months till it's actually released as a single?

She's strung out John Wayne's release???

[Smithy]

i genuinely only found out this week she was gay


not that it matters but was this a secret?

Bi

[Marsh.]

i genuinely only found out this week she was gay


not that it matters but was this a secret?

She's never been bluffin with ha muffin

[Crimson Dynamo]

Bi

oh ok

[y.winter]

I don't understand. She's always done ballads as well as her "weird" stuff?

Quality-music-wannabe makes no sense.

"Million Reasons" and "Perfect Illusion" were pseudo-rock/country songs - when coming from a woman who based her career on controversial, over-sexualized hardcore pop songs, appearence and persona, it lacks credibility.
She needs to stick to what she does best, and that's being THE Lady Gaga, not some weird excuse of "look at me, I'm deep and I can make serious songs without any gimmick".

[Marsh.]

"Million Reasons" and "Perfect Illusion" were pseudo-rock/country songs - when coming from a woman who based her career on controversial, over-sexualized hardcore pop songs, appearence and persona, it lacks credibility.
She needs to stick to what she does best, and that's being THE Lady Gaga, not some weird excuse of "look at me, I'm deep and I can make serious songs without any gimmick".

Perfect Illusion is a pop song.

She's made serious songs for years. Million Reasons being far from the first. :umm2: Your critique makes zero sense.

Pop songs have had rock/country/jazz etc etc influences for years, including Gaga. This isn't the first.

[Marsh.]

I love Perfect Illusion but I almost choked laughing at it being described as "look at me, I'm deep and I can make serious songs".

[reece(:]

Perfect Delusion doesn't deserve a mention in this thread! Cease!

[Pete.]

Video looks like it was shot and edited in all of 3 days :sad:

And it doesn't differ much from Judas' music video

[Marsh.]

Video looks like it was shot and edited in all of 3 days :sad:

And it doesn't differ much from Judas' music video

Using that logic it's the same as that Girls Aloud video because it has a motorbike. :unsure:

[Pete.]

Using that logic it's the same as that Girls Aloud video because it has a motorbike. :unsure:
You said it not me

http://abload.de/img/16426027q9onk.gif

[Jake.]

"Million Reasons" and "Perfect Illusion" were pseudo-rock/country songs - when coming from a woman who based her career on controversial, over-sexualized hardcore pop songs, appearence and persona, it lacks credibility.
She needs to stick to what she does best, and that's being THE Lady Gaga, not some weird excuse of "look at me, I'm deep and I can make serious songs without any gimmick".

Brown Eyes, Speechless, You & I, Dope etc are all far from "controversial, over-sexualised hardcore pop songs" but okay

[Smithy]

It's on VEVO now, updated the OP :D

[Smithy]

Also can we not with the Perfect Illusion dragging, that key change is literally the best thing to happen to music in 2016

[y.winter]

I love Perfect Illusion but I almost choked laughing at it being described as "look at me, I'm deep and I can make serious songs".

it was more like "look at me, I'm a rock star, shaking my head back and forth". It was a joke.

[y.winter]

Brown Eyes, Speechless, You & I, Dope etc are all far from "controversial, over-sexualised hardcore pop songs" but okay

Never heard of them. I guess there's a reason they weren't big hits like her early songs.

[Marsh.]

Never heard of them. I guess there's a reason they weren't big hits like her early songs.

They are early songs.

[Marsh.]

it was more like "look at me, I'm a rock star, shaking my head back and forth". It was a joke.

Yeah, she's never shaken her hair back and forth and never made a pop song with rock influence.

[y.winter]

Well, I guess it's a sensitive subject here.
What I'm saying is that she's better with her old tricks that got her famous in first place.
There's a reason why on Super Bowl she only performed Million Reason from her last album and it was purely for promo - all the others were Lady Gaga classics from the time when she was relevant and her songs actually made an impact outside of her fanbase and will go down as her best iconic songs. Her latest releases are flops in comparison to what she was.

[Marsh.]

Well, I guess it's a sensitive subject here.
What I'm saying is that she's better with her old tricks that got her famous in first place.
There's a reason why on Super Bowl she only performed Million Reason from her last album and it was purely for promo - all the others were Lady Gaga classics from the time when she was relevant and her songs actually made an impact outside of her fanbase and will go down as her best iconic songs. Her latest releases are flops in comparison to what she was.

Yeah, she sang Million Reasons, the song the MOST different from her most famous songs so you're reasoning doesn't make much sense.

[Jake.]

Never heard of them. I guess there's a reason they weren't big hits like her early songs.

Three weren't released as singles, Speechless has been acclaimed as one of her best songs and You & I sold 2,310,000 digital downloads in the US :shrug:

[y.winter]

Yeah, she sang Million Reasons, the song the MOST different from her most famous songs so you're reasoning doesn't make much sense.

it makes sense. there's no point in dismissing other opinions with "doesn't make any sense" in multiple variations, Marsh.
As someone who doesn't actively listen to Lady Gaga songs, as well as many other people, the exposure/interest she gets has been in decline - and it says a lot.
Bring as many numbers of sales as you want, of course she'll sale millions because she's still lady gaga, but it still doesn't make up for the lack of interest she creates these days. No one talks about lady gaga these days as much as they did when she exploded on the radio and the internet with every music video and single she released.

[Jamie89]

I get what Winter's saying, she has changed artistically tbf. But I think she's always been credible as a musician and I don't think her current era is her trying to chase that. I actually think it's kind of the opposite, that when she started she was chasing 'fame' and did a lot of the things she did to get noticed, whereas now she's more able to just do what she wants. Because all those things she used to do, they were just layers on top of her artistic-ness (if that's a word). I think she's always had more to offer than the average pop star and that's clear even from The Fame Monster, but I just think it's a case of her getting older and adapting her music to how she feels now, which any musician probably does.

[Jake.]

I get what Winter's saying, she has changed artistically tbf. But I think she's always been credible as a musician and I don't think her current era is her trying to chase that. I actually think it's kind of the opposite, that when she started she was chasing 'fame' and did a lot of the things she did to get noticed, whereas now she's more able to just do what she wants. Because all those things she used to do, they were just layers on top of her artistic-ness (if that's a word). I think she's always had more to offer than the average pop star and that's clear even from The Fame Monster, but I just think it's a case of her getting older and adapting her music to how she feels now, which any musician probably does.

of course she has :laugh: musicians have to develop if not for fans, then for themselves

interest in her has dwindled, but I'd say that's more to do with how the music scene has changed in the past 8-10 years than anything else

[y.winter]

I get what Winter's saying, she has changed artistically tbf. But I think she's always been credible as a musician and I don't think her current era is her trying to chase that. I actually think it's kind of the opposite, that when she started she was chasing 'fame' and did a lot of the things she did to get noticed, whereas now she's more able to just do what she wants. Because all those things she used to do, they were just layers on top of her artistic-ness (if that's a word). I think she's always had more to offer than the average pop star and that's clear even from The Fame Monster, but I just think it's a case of her getting older and adapting her music to how she feels now, which any musician probably does.

I accept it. I just found her first two singles from the last albums not interesting/amusing as they should be. She's a good singer, but it wasn't something to release as a single, especially not first. This John Wayne sounds and looks more like her, but still not as strong as some of her previous singles.

[Jamie89]

of course she has :laugh: musicians have to develop if not for fans, then for themselves

interest in her has dwindled, but I'd say that's more to do with how the music scene has changed in the past 8-10 years than anything else

Yeah, that and just that she was so big it would be impossible to maintain that level of interest permanently. And I think part of the attraction was just because she was new and different so obviously after a while that would die down a bit.

I accept it. I just found her first two singles from the last albums not interesting/amusing as they should be. She's a good singer, but it wasn't something to release as a single, especially not first. This John Wayne sounds and looks more like her, but still not as strong as some of her previous singles.

It's funny, I loved her when she released her first album but then I wasn't too interested in the songs she released afterwards and haven't really been a fan for years or followed her very closely, but it was Perfect Illusion that got me interested in her again :laugh:

[TomC]

^ Yep, PI was the song that made me a hardcore fan (but I accept I'm one in a million).

I just love the unpredictability of this video, even if I did kinda want this era to be coherent. Video-wise, I feel Joanne has just gone from her most to least coherent album in terms of videos.

[Jake.]

went to watch the video and its been taken down or s/t :worry:

[Marsh.]

it makes sense. there's no point in dismissing other opinions with "doesn't make any sense" in multiple variations, Marsh.
As someone who doesn't actively listen to Lady Gaga songs, as well as many other people, the exposure/interest she gets has been in decline - and it says a lot.
Bring as many numbers of sales as you want, of course she'll sale millions because she's still lady gaga, but it still doesn't make up for the lack of interest she creates these days. No one talks about lady gaga these days as much as they did when she exploded on the radio and the internet with every music video and single she released.

I haven't said you don't make sense because it's a "different opinion" I've said it makes little sense because that's what I think about what you're saying.

Of course she isn't making as much of a rumble as she did at the beginning, just as the world is no longer shocked by Madonna's antics as they were in the 80s. The world gets used to things and moves on. That's how it works. Nobody can stay at the top with that much exposure, it's impossible.

I wasn't mentioning sales or numbers, I was commenting on your comments about her music or her style changing when if you actually look at all of her career from 2008 to present her experimentation with songs and genres has not changed and yet somehow "Perfect Illusion" is her trying to do rock and be "credible" and somehow the first time you've noticed this, it's not the first pop song to have influences from other genres (Gaga or not) and it won't be the last.

She's been seen as a credible artist for ages whether she's done a shallow pop number or a slow ballad.

[Jamie89]

went to watch the video and its been taken down or s/t :worry:

This link still works for me...

https://vid.me/e/NxCZ?card=1

[Marsh.]

went to watch the video and its been taken down or s/t :worry:

This link still works for me...

https://vid.me/e/NxCZ?card=1

Why are you still watching dodgy links when it's on vevo now ladies. :nono:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

why are there numerous essay's in a mv thread

[Jamie89]

why are there numerous essay's in a mv thread

John Wayne's impact :love:

[Jake.]

This link still works for me...

https://vid.me/e/NxCZ?card=1

Thanks Jamie!

Very similar to Telephone, I liked it. Simple & fun.

[iRyan]

Why is Dancin' In Circles being paid dust

[Marsh.]

Why is Dancin' In Circles being paid dust

I want to see Gaga touch haself

[Smithy]

Ok *now* it's on VEVO

o9iQ8lIfyEs

[Samm]

joanne left rotting in 2016, gaga is back wig

[Marsh.]

joanne left rotting in 2016, gaga is back wig

The song is from Joanne you fool.

[Denver]

Ok i like

[Samm]

The song is from Joanne you fool.

I meant herself fool.

2016:
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/lady-gaga-joanne.jpg?w=1100&quality=85http://www.billboard.com/files/media/02-lady-gaga-nashville-show-2016-billboard-1548.jpghttp://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/lady-gaga/2016-american-music-awards-in-los-angeles/Lady-Gaga:-2016-American-Music-Awards--03.jpg

2017:
https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/Il5grRd47kHrzRtWYCrA_0DZCSo/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2017/02/08/221/n/1922398/28b493f79d72fd74_GettyImages-634305592_master/i/Lady-Gaga-Tommy-Hilfiger-Spring-2017-Fashion-Show.jpghttp://www.billboard.com/files/styles/480x270/public/media/18-lady-gaga-super-bowl-feb-2017-billboard-1548.jpghttps://cdn.trend.network/790/-/43e7825d6894cb6e.jpghttps://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/gaga-drag-race.jpg?w=670&h=377&crop=1

[Smithy]

Drag race was filmed in 2016

[Samm]

who cares, fad is becoming likeable again, glad she's realised from her mistakes :flowers:

[Marsh.]

Yes, her likability is linked to wearing a hat/wearing no hat. That must be it.

[Smithy]

Never known a fad last nearly a decade but ok let's keep rolling with that

[EspeonBB]

The pink hat was getting stale, she wore it for like all of late 2016

[Smithy]

Yes, her likability is linked to wearing a hat/wearing no hat. That must be it.

http://i.imgur.com/xF0jBtv.jpg

No hat

Theory confirmed

[Marsh.]

http://i.imgur.com/xF0jBtv.jpg

No hat

Theory confirmed

:joker:

[Marsh.]

Her wearing several versions of the hat in John Wayne. :love:

[Samm]

the little munters continue to ruin any likability nose has, a shame!

http://68.media.tumblr.com/85713f09bfbfcf3f1e74a78fcb8505d6/tumblr_mqbdx7jdZv1r1qvpro1_500.jpg

[Marsh.]

Gaga don't want you.

[Smithy]

the little munters continue to ruin any likability nose has, a shame!

http://68.media.tumblr.com/85713f09bfbfcf3f1e74a78fcb8505d6/tumblr_mqbdx7jdZv1r1qvpro1_500.jpg

Go back to stanning a lifeless talentless piece of plywood then, you won't be missed :idc:

[Samm]

Go back to stanning a lifeless talentless piece of plywood then, you won't be missed :idc:

Don't worry sweaty gaga does as well!

""I was amazed by the level of the superfan that Britney created. I want to bring back the feeling that I used to feel.""
http://www.farandula.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/britney-spears_lady-gaga-mtv.jpg

[Jordan.]

A scream that gag tried so hard to make the critics love Joanne and Britney came along with no effort and got a better score :skull:

[Denver]

Britney cant even sing though

[Marsh.]

"the feeling that I used to feel."

http://i.imgur.com/Wc8Ugkm.gif

[reece(:]

Britney cant even sing though
But Mood Ring happened

[Samm]

Britney cant even sing though

a listen to don't let me be the last to know is needed

[Marsh.]

a listen to don't let me be the last to know is needed

If he wanted to listen to autotune gone wrong he could watch Cheryl Cole perform for Children in Need. :nono:

[Samm]

If he wanted to listen to autotune gone wrong he could watch Cheryl Cole perform for Children in Need. :nono:

eEiXGYY7Bak

damn autotune

[Jake.]

the little munters continue to ruin any likability nose has, a shame!

http://68.media.tumblr.com/85713f09bfbfcf3f1e74a78fcb8505d6/tumblr_mqbdx7jdZv1r1qvpro1_500.jpg

yes because for the last 4 years on the forum you've really shown your likability

[Marsh.]

eEiXGYY7Bak

damn autotune

Oh my god, I take it back. BRING BACK THE AUTOTUNE!!!!! MY EARS!!!

[Samm]

yes because for the last 4 years on the forum you've really shown your likability

it's a big brother forum and it's the internet, don't really treat it as a popularity contest

thanks

[Jake.]

it's a big brother forum and it's the internet, don't really treat it as a popularity contest

thanks

yet here you are slating fans of a musician