Resident Hall : 87year old has dog - Dog must now go

[arista]

Yapping and others because the 87 year
man is not Fit enough to walk it.
His Wife used to take it , she died.
This old man goes to Hospital a few times each week
that keeps him alive.

His Resident Hall
has new management
that "Troubled" Dog must go
I agree


No Dog should not be STUCK in a home
its not fair -- animal welfare,
NO caller said anything on that


Burnt foot hall near Lockerbie
is the Location
Ch5HD Live AM debate gave
their name out at the end

[Crimson Dynamo]

Get the dog to the Dogs Trust ASAP

[RichardG]

the house behind ours used to have a small terrier that wouldn't stop yapping all. day. every. day. it drove us mad. people must have been complaining bc it was taken away one day and never heard from again.

[arista]

They are saying he will Die without
his Dog.
But feck sake the Dog needs walks Every Day.
Why could no caller on the phone
Understand , that?

Its no wonder the dog is yapping at guests.
It is Frustrated.

[arista]

the house behind ours used to have a small terrier that wouldn't stop yapping all. day. every. day. it drove us mad. people must have been complaining bc it was taken away one day and never heard from again.


That was the best thing to do.

[Cherie]

Couldn't a family member or neighbour walk the the dog, it seems cruel to take the dog away but equally cruel that it is not exercised but it's not the mans fault :umm2: or what about the new management sorting it out

[arista]

Couldn't a family member or neighbour walk the the dog, it seems cruel to take the dog away but equally cruel that it is not exercised but it's not the mans fault :umm2:


His Wife used to pop in and take
it , she died,


They are all old in that place.


No one has offered to
walk the Frustrated Dog
Cherie, thats why its in the papers
and TV debates,
Walking a dog every day
is not easy , for some.
it's not a little dog.

Its gone past all that, anyway
Management Demand the Dog goes or both go.
I agree

[Cherie]

His Wife used to pop in and take
it , she died,


They are all old in that place.


No one has offered to
walk the Frustrated Dog
Cherie, thats why its in the papers
and TV debates,
Walking a dog every day
is not easy , for some.
it's not a little dog.

Its gone past all that, anyway
Management Demand the Dog goes or both go.
I agree

No it's not easy for some, but people have time to go and fill potholes for the government , but nobody has time to walk the elderly mans dog, shameful, there must be someone in his locality who goes out for a walk every day that could help ...

[Cherie]

Rather than issuing an ultimatum, the jobs worth management team should get off their arse to find a solution, I bet he pays a packet to stay there

[Cherie]

Get the dog to the Dogs Trust ASAP

I'm really surprised as a dog owner that this is the best you can suggest, if you broke your leg in the morning would you ship your dog off ?

[Livia]

Surely there's some kind dog-owner locally that could walk the old boy's dog? We're a sad society otherwise. People's dog are part of their family.

[Cherie]

Surely there's some kind dog-owner locally that could walk the old boy's dog? We're a sad society otherwise. People's dog are part of their family.

Nobody cares about the elderly which is a bit ironic as we will all be that person one day

[arista]

No it's not easy for some, but people have time to go and fill potholes for the government , but nobody has time to walk the elderly mans dog, shameful, there must be someone in his locality who goes out for a walk every day that could help ...


Not for Free.

[arista]

Nobody cares about the elderly which is a bit ironic as we will all be that person one day


Rubbish
No one had a plan for that Dog
if his Wife died.
FACT


As you get Older Cherie
you plan things
(set out if no one is there to help you etc.,
if you do not - then you are a mess
and not wanted etc.



Keep It Real.

[user104658]

They could definitely find someone locally who would walk the dog for free, if they took the time to look.

Failing that... considering the insane cost of elderly residential care... they should just have one of the staff take it out for half an hour each day :shrug:. These places cost thousands of pounds a month.

[Vicky.]

Slow news day?

I agree with other that surely someone else can walk the dog. But if not then I agree it should probably be rehomed, as horrible as that would be for both the man and the dog.

Mind if he has a large yard/garden, surely letting it out to run around for a few hours each day would also be fine?

[Vicky.]

They could definitely find someone locally who would walk the dog for free, if they took the time to look.

Failing that... considering the insane cost of elderly residential care... they should just have one of the staff take it out for half an hour each day :shrug:. These places cost thousands of pounds a month.

Yup...my gran was in a home that cost 500 quid per week. And when the lightbulb went in her room it took them 3 DAYS to replace it...and even then it was only done as my dad kicked off about it. They also used to leave her washing in a pile in the corner of the room for ages :S

[arista]

Rather than issuing an ultimatum, the jobs worth management team should get off their arse to find a solution, I bet he pays a packet to stay there


Cherie its gone past all that
now he has a date to Bugger Off
or free the frustrated dog


I am sure the regional TV news will cover
this.

[user104658]

Yup...my gran was in a home that cost 500 quid per week. And when the lightbulb went in her room it took them 3 DAYS to replace it...and even then it was only done as my dad kicked off about it. They also used to leave her washing in a pile in the corner of the room for ages :S

My wife's grandmother is currently in one that costs 650 a week and apparently the place is awful... has failed all sorts of inspections... and it's one of the CHEAPEST options in the area :umm2:. There are others charging 800 pounds a week. You could rent a flat and a hire a 1-on-1 full time carer for less :think:

[Cherie]

Cherie its gone past all that
now he has a date to Bugger Off
or free the frustrated dog


I am sure the regional TV news will cover
this.

All this publicity is going to find him a dog walker I'm hope :fc:

[Vicky.]

My wife's grandmother is currently in one that costs 650 a week and apparently the place is awful... has failed all sorts of inspections... and it's one of the CHEAPEST options in the area :umm2:. There are others charging 800 pounds a week. You could rent a flat and a hire a 1-on-1 full time carer for less :think:

The homes seem awful. The one my gran was in, she was there mainly as everywhere else would be too far away for regular visits. But we were looking at switching her to a 800 per week place after they said they wanted to put her 'upstairs'. 'Upstairs' was where they put the violent patients who were dangerous. My gran was a tiny 6 stone woman who broke her arm just trying to get up off the sofa and had never been violent in her life. They wanted to put her 'upstairs' as she had 'escaped' when one of the staff left the door open. She was only sitting on the bench outside the place ffs. Because the staff made a mistake, they were going to stick my gran in with a bunch of violent (mainly) men where there as a large chance of big injury or even death.

'Luckily' she died a few days after that. But the whole ordeal was just horrific and opened my eyes a lot.

I mean, one day there was a sickness bug going round the place and the staff just locked each patient into their rooms to contain it. I don't know if this is what homes usually do but that seems barbaric to me. a bunch of OAPs who need support being ill/scared and just get locked into a small room to deal with it themselves? :(

[T*]

He deserves to keep his dog. Find him a walker rather than traumatising the dog by stripping it of its home and owner :(
I can't believe people still look at dogs as objects rather than parts of the family and how easy people can just say 'get rid of it, get it in a home'
You wouldn't be saying that about a child if the situation was easily remedied, would you?

[Cal.]

Someone nearby would surely be willing to take the dog for a walk a few times a week.

[Alf]

I remember when kids used to look after the elderly.

My dad used to make me do errands for the old folk, like go to shop for them when it was snowing or icy. And mow their lawn and pick the weeds in the Summer holiday's ect.

Do these sort of things still happen?

[arista]

All this publicity is going to find him a dog walker I'm hope :fc:


Sure a women
who has a place for folks with dogs , But far away
emailed Ch5HD AM live
but this 87 year old man has to be near
his hospital which
he must visit 2 or 3 times a week
to stay alive.


So its Not that simple
Cherie

[Vicky.]

I remember when kids used to look after the elderly.

My dad used to make me do errands for the old folk, like go to shop for them when it was snowing or icy. And mow their lawn and pick the weeds in the Summer holiday's ect.

Do these sort of things still happen?

Without making myself out to be a saint...I do this. I live in an area which is populated by mostly OAPs, our estate is surrounded by bungalows. I often go to the shop for the residents..I also put salt down on their paths when it is snowing and such. In return, they give me teabags and sugar when I run out :D

[Cal.]

I have never helped an old person before.

[arista]

I remember when kids used to look after the elderly.

My dad used to make me do errands for the old folk, like go to shop for them when it was snowing or icy. And mow their lawn and pick the weeds in the Summer holiday's ect.

Do these sort of things still happen?


Not much Alf
kids get home Xbox or PS4
or there latest trend.

Back in your day
you never had DAB radios
and the radio signal was terrible
So now days thing are better.


Once the New Care Robots
are Fully tested in Asia
they will then be able to take care of You
Alf.

So all is good

[Cal.]

Well I used to clean my whole great nana Jenny's house for her when I was younger actually and she'd buy me a Happy Meal that night when we'd drop her off at Bingo.

[arista]

Well I used to clean my whole great nana Jenny's house for her when I was younger actually and she'd buy me a Happy Meal that night when we'd drop her off at Bingo.


How Very Nice

[Niamh.]

Rather than issuing an ultimatum, the jobs worth management team should get off their arse to find a solution, I bet he pays a packet to stay there

Yeah, if it's housing for the elderly, they should have some sort of dog walking service for their clients, wouldn't cost them alot and it would mean the world to residents, at that age alot of times the dogs are the best company that people have

[Niamh.]

Without making myself out to be a saint...I do this. I live in an area which is populated by mostly OAPs, our estate is surrounded by bungalows. I often go to the shop for the residents..I also put salt down on their paths when it is snowing and such. In return, they give me teabags and sugar when I run out :D

And you say you aren't empathetic :nono:

[Kazanne]

This is what annoys me about the unfairness of the system,those homes cost £500+ per week,but when my mom looked after an elderly person she got £ 48 per week in carers allowance !!!!! they are on a good thing with carers aren't they ? people who do things from the goodness of their heart get a pittance ,yet homes etc get plenty and cant be bothered with people,it's just so wrong,IF anyone had anything about them ,they would walk the dog , but people just cant be bothered unless there is something in it for them,poor show all round if you ask me.

[Vicky.]

And you say you aren't empathetic :nono:

:laugh: I don't think I am, and my counselor agreed with me a few years back. infact it was her that brought the subject up as I felt no guilt or anything for what I did at the time (not a story for the forum xD But was pretty bad) which she said was not normal.

[Cherie]

Yeah, if it's housing for the elderly, they should have some sort of dog walking service for their clients, wouldn't cost them alot and it would mean the world to residents, at that age alot of times the dogs are the best company that people have

This is what annoys me about the unfairness of the system,those homes cost £500+ per week,but when my mom looked after an elderly person she got £ 48 per week in carers allowance !!!!! they are on a good thing with carers aren't they ? people who do things from the goodness of their heart get a pittance ,yet homes etc get plenty and cant be bothered with people,it's just so wrong,IF anyone had anything about them ,they would walk the dog , but people just cant be bothered unless there is something in it for them,poor show all round if you ask me.

That's the story here isn't it, a management team in charge of a care home when they obviously don't give a damn about the residents, all they care about is making money.

[Niamh.]

:laugh: I don't think I am, and my counselor agreed with me a few years back. infact it was her that brought the subject up as I felt no guilt or anything for what I did at the time (not a story for the forum xD But was pretty bad) which she said was not normal.

I disagree with her :nono:

[arista]

:laugh: I don't think I am, and my counselor agreed with me a few years back. infact it was her that brought the subject up as I felt no guilt or anything for what I did at the time (not a story for the forum xD But was pretty bad) which she said was not normal.


That's OK Vicky
you look after your family
and help some old folks near you


So all is Good

[arista]

This is what annoys me about the unfairness of the system,those homes cost £500+ per week,but when my mom looked after an elderly person she got £ 48 per week in carers allowance !!!!! they are on a good thing with carers aren't they ? people who do things from the goodness of their heart get a pittance ,yet homes etc get plenty and cant be bothered with people,it's just so wrong,IF anyone had anything about them ,they would walk the dog , but people just cant be bothered unless there is something in it for them,poor show all round if you ask me.


Yes Dog Walkers
earn big Cash
one lady had 8 dogs

What a Mega Gang
they all liked each other,


Dog Gangs
they just love to be part of a gang
no joke

[Kizzy]

Without making myself out to be a saint...I do this. I live in an area which is populated by mostly OAPs, our estate is surrounded by bungalows. I often go to the shop for the residents..I also put salt down on their paths when it is snowing and such. In return, they give me teabags and sugar when I run out :D

:love: Aw yep I used to do this for a few neighbours, sadly they have since passed, I've lived on the same street give or take a few years since I was 11.

[user104658]

Without making myself out to be a saint...I do this. I live in an area which is populated by mostly OAPs, our estate is surrounded by bungalows. I often go to the shop for the residents..I also put salt down on their paths when it is snowing and such. In return, they give me teabags and sugar when I run out :D

What a weird parallel... I make the old regulars run errands to the newsagents for ME when I'm alone in the shop (and so obviously can't pop out myself), and in exchange I make THEM a cup of tea or coffee :joker:.

[Cherie]

I look out for my elderly neighbours and have a few family phone numbers so I can contact families if there is an issue, I don't think it is that uncommon, and that is why it is so annoying that the management are not even trying to get the dog walked, no other sector would put up with paying a fortune for such poor service, our elderly do it as they have no fight left in them or no one bothered to fight for them, this is probably more important than Donald Trump being allowed to visit tbh

[arista]

What a weird parallel... I make the old regulars run errands to the newsagents for ME when I'm alone in the shop (and so obviously can't pop out myself), and in exchange I make THEM a cup of tea or coffee :joker:.


How Nice TS

[Amy Jade]

Aww i'd walk it for him when I take mine out for her walk

[Brillopad]

Nobody cares about the elderly which is a bit ironic as we will all be that person one day

Always amazes me that people don't seem to fully understand that. Although aware it will happen one day it seems so far off people never really acknowledge how quick it can catch up with them.

People are always unprepared for the inevitable.

[arista]

Aww i'd walk it for him when I take mine out for her walk

Nice of you.

But what if his frustrated dog
attacks yours
then what?

[Cherie]

Nice of you.

But what if his frustrated dog
attacks yours
then what?

The man is 87 what age can this dog be, he probably has no teeth :D:

[arista]

The man is 87 what age can this dog be, he probably has no teeth :D:


Its got teeth
older dogs get angry
faster


Feel The Force

[Livia]

Nobody cares about the elderly which is a bit ironic as we will all be that person one day

... if we're lucky. I think we (as a nation) used to care for our elderly but seem to have lost the art. It's sad... other cultures put us to shame.

[VanessaFeltz.]

He deserves to keep his dog. Find him a walker rather than traumatising the dog by stripping it of its home and owner :(
I can't believe people still look at dogs as objects rather than parts of the family and how easy people can just say 'get rid of it, get it in a home'
You wouldn't be saying that about a child if the situation was easily remedied, would you?

Honestly this is the best message of the thread.

Also we are talking about very elderly people, they contributed to their countries for many many years. At least shouldnt we thank them by making them happy? Also how ****ty is that to take 2k quid from people, it isnt 5 stars hotel it is just a care home. Plus their animals should be taken care of as well. These people and their animals arent robots, they have feelings.

I specially have a question for arista. You want people to work 7 days a week and work till 73. After that point they basically need to be in care. Dont these people deserve to get these kinds of help after working that hard for that many years? Or should we just use humans as they are robots and kill them off when they are old and weak?

[Kizzy]

That's the story here isn't it, a management team in charge of a care home when they obviously don't give a damn about the residents, all they care about is making money.

Welcome to private social/healthcare.

[Kizzy]

Nobody cares about the elderly which is a bit ironic as we will all be that person one day

Bit harsh, how do you know? I do others in the thread do plenty of people I know do, people do care... good job as the govt don't.

[Cherie]

Welcome to private social/healthcare.

Oh please as if council run homes were any better :idc:

[ebandit]

...cool story bro.............but what about the thousands of unnamed/unknown

homeless dogs around europe/rest of the world.............

Mark L

[user104658]

Oh please as if council run homes were any better :idc:
Probably as bad, I doubt they could be worse than some, but the difference is... When you're paying several thousand pounds a month for something (most have to sell their homes and spend their entire life's savings) it damn well should be a service of exceptional quality. People save up for their entire working lives, 50 years, hoping to have a nest egg to leave for their family and then it gets wiped out in a couple of years in a care home. It's tragic. It would be palatable if those homes were making them happy and comfortable and ensuring that their final days are good ones but they aren't... They're left miserable and stinking of their own piss... Mostly ignored by staff and sometimes straight up belittled, mocked, laughed at. Horrendous stuff.

[Niamh.]

Probably as bad, I doubt they could be worse than some, but the difference is... When you're paying several thousand pounds a month for something (most have to sell their homes and spend their entire life's savings) it damn well should be a service of exceptional quality. People save up for their entire working lives, 50 years, hoping to have a nest egg to leave for their family and then it gets wiped out in a couple of years in a care home. It's tragic. It would be palatable if those homes were making them happy and comfortable and ensuring that their final days are good ones but they aren't... They're left miserable and stinking of their own piss... Mostly ignored by staff and sometimes straight up belittled, mocked, laughed at. Horrendous stuff.

It's so sad, I really hope I never have to decide to put my own mother in a home. It would be an absolute last resort though....although saying that she's more healthy than i am probably :laugh:

[arista]

Bit harsh, how do you know? I do others in the thread do plenty of people I know do, people do care... good job as the govt don't.


Yes Kizzy
before 2010
New Labour were Pathetic
Brown/Blair

[Vicky.]

It's so sad, I really hope I never have to decide to put my own mother in a home. It would be an absolute last resort though....although saying that she's more healthy than i am probably :laugh:

My mother made me promise a few years back that if she ever 'lost herself' enough to need to have 24/7 care, I would help her kill herself. That was a lovely morbid conversation. She originally said would I actually murder her (pillow over face) but I said I would end up spending my life in prison that way. So she settled for me handing her some strong painkillers, and if that fails, to take her somewhere it would be easy to just...roll her wheelchair off/jump. She was being deadly serious too.

I would rather be gone than end up in a place like that so I understand where she is coming from but I would never ask my kids to help me :laugh:

With my Gran...she was living with my mum and dad for a year or so but they absolutely had to put her in the home as she was a danger to herself. even if they both gave up work (which wasnt feasible at all) there was still the issue of nighttimes when everyone slept. Unless they took turns on day/nights which would mean they never saw each other. I mean, she nearly burnt the house down twice, was stashing MEAT under her bed, tried to down a bottle of bleach..just so many things that are no good :S My dad felt guilty still for putting her in the home though, even though realistically there wasn't another option

[user104658]

Not that it's an urgent issue right now I'd imagine Vicky... But just to prewarn you, if they think you've helped someone commit suicide you still might end up going to jail.

[Niamh.]

My mother made me promise a few years back that if she ever 'lost herself' enough to need to have 24/7 care, I would help her kill herself. That was a lovely morbid conversation. She originally said would I actually murder her (pillow over face) but I said I would end up spending my life in prison that way. So she settled for me handing her some strong painkillers, and if that fails, to take her somewhere it would be easy to just...roll her wheelchair off/jump. She was being deadly serious too.

I would rather be gone than end up in a place like that so I understand where she is coming from but I would never ask my kids to help me :laugh:

With my Gran...she was living with my mum and dad for a year or so but they absolutely had to put her in the home as she was a danger to herself. even if they both gave up work (which wasnt feasible at all) there was still the issue of nighttimes when everyone slept. Unless they took turns on day/nights which would mean they never saw each other. I mean, she nearly burnt the house down twice, was stashing MEAT under her bed, tried to down a bottle of bleach..just so many things that are no good :S My dad felt guilty still for putting her in the home though, even though realistically there wasn't another option

There was a case here actually just recently of someone being charged with assisting a relative because they arranged travel to one of those Swiss clinics where they assist terminally ill people kill themselves. I'm not sure where they would stand on assisting someone with dementia to do it though, probably couldn't as they would no longer be able to consent

Yeah, that's what i mean about my own mother unless she was actually a danger to herself there no way I would ever put her in a home. It feels so wrong to me, I couldn't even put my kids in creches when they were young :laugh:

[Vicky.]

Not that it's an urgent issue right now I'd imagine Vicky... But just to prewarn you, if they think you've helped someone commit suicide you still might end up going to jail.

That was my point. But she countered that with (if she was in a wheelchair and unable to help herself but 'all there' in the head) finding her some pills or something wouldn't bring suspicion on me :/ Which I countered with...well you could find your own bloody pills but she was adamant :laugh: She then said if she wasn't 'all there' in the head and I pushed her over a cliff or something, that wouldn't be suspicious either as she could well have jumped...

Was such a strange convo and not one you want to have with your mother. I tried to put it all on my brother...as he is training to be a doctor so would be able to help much more than I could and she came back with...well your brother or sister would be hysterical and crying about it and upset where I know you understand this and you are 'cold' and I know you wouldn't let emotions get in the way :umm2:

Edit. This brings me back (again) to euthanasia should be legal tbh. People could sign something earlier in life (like my mother) if they were adamant they didn't want to end up in that situation.

[Niamh.]

That was my point. But she countered that with (if she was in a wheelchair and unable to help herself but 'all there' in the head) finding her some pills or something wouldn't bring suspicion on me :/ Which I countered with...well you could find your own bloody pills but she was adamant :laugh: She then said if she wasn't 'all there' in the head and I pushed her over a cliff or something, that wouldn't be suspicious either as she could well have jumped...

Was such a strange convo and not one you want to have with your mother. I tried to put it all on my brother...as he is training to be a doctor so would be able to help much more than I could and she came back with...well your brother or sister would be hysterical and crying about it and upset where I know you understand this and you are 'cold' and I know you wouldn't let emotions get in the way :umm2:

Edit. This brings me back (again) to euthanasia should be legal tbh. People could sign something earlier in life (like my mother) if they were adamant they didn't want to end up in that situation.

Yeah I agree, although you could imagine it could be open to abuse as well

[Vicky.]

Yeah I agree, although you could imagine it could be open to abuse as well

It could be...but if you need to get consent from 2 seperate doctors. And if someone decides early in life it can be countersigned (?) like wills are, where it is all above board and checked

[Niamh.]

It could be...but if you need to get consent from 2 seperate doctors. And if someone decides early in life it can be countersigned (?) like wills are, where it is all above board and checked

Yeah, there would have to be very tight conditions with it, maybe a psychological evaluation too

[Cherie]

Probably as bad, I doubt they could be worse than some, but the difference is... When you're paying several thousand pounds a month for something (most have to sell their homes and spend their entire life's savings) it damn well should be a service of exceptional quality. People save up for their entire working lives, 50 years, hoping to have a nest egg to leave for their family and then it gets wiped out in a couple of years in a care home. It's tragic. It would be palatable if those homes were making them happy and comfortable and ensuring that their final days are good ones but they aren't... They're left miserable and stinking of their own piss... Mostly ignored by staff and sometimes straight up belittled, mocked, laughed at. Horrendous stuff.


No other sector would put up with paying for something to be ill treated, it is a national scandal

[Niamh.]

No other sector would put up with paying for something to be ill treated, it is a national scandal

It's disgraceful and to the most vulnerable people in our society as well

[user104658]

No other sector would put up with paying for something to be ill treated, it is a national scandal
There's a website where you can view the official inspection reports for care homes, I can't remember what it's called, wife looked it up for the one her grandmother is in and its... Just awful stuff. "D" ratings in several areas and actually marked as failing in others with a threat of being shut down if no improvement.

But we looked up all the others in her grandmothers local area... The best and most expensive one was barely scraping "C" grades in most areas. I have no idea how they get away with it. Are these places really just so expensive to run that even with every resident paying in to £3000 a MONTH they're only just getting by? Or are there some fat cats who own these places who are making ridiculous profits whilst providing the bare minimum of service...

That said it can't even be just a money issue. Some things like the attitude of the staff and the cleanliness standards of the place could be improved with little or zero additional expense.

[Kizzy]

Oh please as if council run homes were any better :idc:

What makes you think they weren't... They were regulated and inspected, what safeguards have self regulating private facilities?

[Cherie]

What makes you think they weren't... They were regulated and inspected, what safeguards have self regulating private facilities?


Private care homes are subject to the same inspections and regulations

[Kizzy]

Private care homes are subject to the same inspections and regulations

Nope, they aren't. Sorry I'm not just being contrary there are people dying, being mistreated, assaulted and abused in private facilities up and down the country and the evidence is withheld, whistleblowers are gagged or sacked.

A market in social care was introduced, in part, as a way of keeping the costs of
state-funded social care under control. By restricting the funding available to
local authorities to provide care services at a time of increased need, successive
governments have forced local authorities to generate ‘efficiencies’ through
contracting with the lowest-cost operators in the independent sector.
This competition between providers to win contracts from local authorities on
a lowest-cost basis has driven down the quality of care in many instances to
the ‘minimum quality level allowed’. Indeed the current Care Minister, Norman
Lamb, has acknowledged that the current system ‘incentivises poor care, low
wages and neglect, often acting with little regard for the people it is supposed
to be looking after’

https://chpi.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/CHPI-Lessons-from-the-social-care-market-October-2013.pdf