How right/left wing do you consider yourself to be?

[Withano]

I sort of get the vibe that people think if you aren't right, you're left, and vice versa?.. I assume this isn't true and most people are more centred.. discuss.

[VanessaFeltz.]

left

[reece(:]

Left / centre-left depending on the issue.

[Alf]

I don't consider myself any. I'm just me. If somebody want's to stick a label on me, then they're more than welcome. I'll just say "That's great" then nothing will happen, and life will move on.

I'd like to believe that I just try to live my life by common sense.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Left on most issues.

[arista]

Me Right
& Left

[user104658]

Honest truth? I think it's all bull****. I tend to find that people who identify as "left" are better intentioned, but not necessarily as a rule, just in general.

And that's about it.

[Denver]

More of a chicken wing

[Black Dagger]

Left on 85% of issues really.

[Rob!]

If the amount of disgust I felt when watching Trump's latest press conference makes me as left as the comment section kept telling me I was then left all day baby

[Crimson Dynamo]

centre

[Firewire]

Left leaning I think

[Crimson Dynamo]

Honest truth? I think it's all bull****. I tend to find that people who identify as "left" are better intentioned, but not necessarily as a rule, just in general.

And that's about it.

sadly life is about actions.. and intentions tend to get blown in the gutter with the trash and people who identify problems but have no idea what solutions even are..

solutions are bad, mean, not popular and difficult

hence why, for example, pop and films stars are terrified of them

[Kizzy]

Slightly left leaning.

[user104658]

sadly life is about actions.. and intentions tend to get blown in the gutter with the trash and people who identify problems but have no idea what solutions even are..

solutions are bad, mean, not popular and difficult

hence why, for example, pop and films stars are terrified of them
The world is circling the drain and no one leaning in any direction is going to make a difference to that with their actions :shrug:.

[Alf]

Slightly left leaning.You were laughing to yourself when you typed this, right?

[ebandit]

.........i'm a moderate guy...........but i can't believe just how much the labour

party have sold out................how universities are no longer a place of radical

thought..........but somewhere for fashion

...tax the rich.............be happy to pay your taxes to support the less well off

Mark L

[Withano]

You were laughing to yourself when you typed this, right?

:suspect: shes very open about liking Corbyn, I dont think many people would label Labour as left..

[Alf]

:suspect: shes very open about liking Corbyn, I dont think many people would label Labour as left..I'm only playing, Kizzy can give and take a bit of banter.

[Kizzy]

:suspect: shes very open about liking Corbyn, I dont think many people would label Labour as left..

Thanks Withano that's just it, I like Corbyn but I wouldn't say I was a true Labour supporter as most are too centre/ right leaning.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Slightly left leaning.

:laugh2:

[smudgie]

Depends whatthe issue is.
Voted both sides in the past.
I agree and disagree with left and right.

[Kizzy]

centre

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

[Jack_]

Far left ideologically speaking, but I vote on centre-left lines since I don't have much other choice.

[King Gizzard]

Between left and centre left

[Scarlett.]

Center left most of the time

[Cherie]

The poll should be multi option, I voted for centre but depending on the issue I lean to the right/left, I don't identify with any party and often find myself voting for the independants so as to use my vote but not make it count if that makes sense

[ebandit]

...putting it like that i guess i'm between left..........'n tara i'm off to n korea.....

Mark L

[the truth]

its too simplistic to say left or right....i believe in wealth redisctribution, i believe in a vibrant economy with fair competition, im against monopolies, im against wasteful corrupt civil service and im against big unions acting like bullies

[Withano]

The poll should be multi option, I voted for centre but depending on the issue I lean to the right/left, I don't identify with any party and often find myself voting for the independants so as to use my vote but not make it count if that makes sense

I considered that cos I wanted to select 2 too, but then I thought I could just work out my average sort of opinion on all topics.

I think as a person, I'm centre left, but I vote in elections more central.. I voted centreleft in the poll

[JerseyWins]

I remember taking a test that I was shown by a friend that shows where you stand on the political spectrum which I was able to find again now:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-0.5&soc=-2.56

It's very similar to the last time I took the test (I think I was like a grid or two more to the left and possibly also a grid higher from what I can remember). But centrism or slightly left & slightly libertarian is about what I'd expect so this thing is probably pretty accurate.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test For anyone else who wants to take it. A bit lengthy for an online test but doesn't take long.

[Jack_]

Ah yeah, I forgot about the political compass! We had a thread about it that went on for ages a few years ago :laugh: I remember the last time I took it I landed in the very bottom left square lol (no joke)

I'll try and find it

[Jack_]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194361

[arista]

Honest truth? I think it's all bull****. I tend to find that people who identify as "left" are better intentioned, but not necessarily as a rule, just in general.

And that's about it.


How Nice TS


Shame they do get off their FAT asses
and Vote more , TS

[arista]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194361


Yes Jack
back in 2012
when you were More Spunky...........

[arista]

Ah yeah, I forgot about the political compass! We had a thread about it that went on for ages a few years ago :laugh: I remember the last time I took it I landed in the very bottom left square lol (no joke)

I'll try and find it


How Nice.

[Mystic Mock]

I tend to have more left policies because I tend to find that I'm quite progressive in my thoughts rather than just having the status quo for the sake of it, and I tend to find that left wing ideology is more positive in it's approach compared to the right and as I don't consider myself a negative person I could never fully get behind the right which always wants to cut everything, bitch about Immigration, bitch about the EU etc it's just not my style.

However it's not to say that the right doesn't have a place in society as I do agree with them that business is important for the country's Economy, just not to the point of making working class people barely being able to keep a roof over their head. And a competent right wing party that is reasonably tough on law & order (especially the major crimes) and a party that's tougher on Immigration so that we don't have our resources run dry is a good thing in my book.

[Northern Monkey]

https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=0.5&soc=-0.41

[thesheriff443]

From where I'm standing you all look like ants.

[ebandit]

...i like that...instead of left or right..............authoritarian v liberitarian....

as my general philosophy is i divvunt give a ^*** i'z doing as i please............

i'm gonna score......................who knows? better check it out................

Mark L

[Crimson Dynamo]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

:joker:

[the truth]

I tend to have more left policies because I tend to find that I'm quite progressive in my thoughts rather than just having the status quo for the sake of it, and I tend to find that left wing ideology is more positive in it's approach compared to the right and as I don't consider myself a negative person I could never fully get behind the right which always wants to cut everything, bitch about Immigration, bitch about the EU etc it's just not my style.

However it's not to say that the right doesn't have a place in society as I do agree with them that business is important for the country's Economy, just not to the point of making working class people barely being able to keep a roof over their head. And a competent right wing party that is reasonably tough on law & order (especially the major crimes) and a party that's tougher on Immigration so that we don't have our resources run dry is a good thing in my book.

they say one thing to another, they pretend to be more caring but in the end they bankrupt the country and the gap between rich and poor was the biggets for 200 years. so they are ultimately total fakes and frauds.

[user104658]

in the end they bankrupt the country and the gap between rich and poor was the biggets for 200 years. so they are ultimately total fakes and frauds.

FFS are you actually talking about New Labour 1997-2009?

New Labour?

New Labour which was a right-leaning authoritarian-inclined party...

...the exact opposite of a "lefty liberal" party ...???


I think you need to stop saying "lefty liberal" and "loony left" Truth, you don't seem to have an accurate grasp of the political compass at all. You think that Blairs labour was left and liberal. :umm2: wut.

[Kizzy]

True, and why can we not shake blair off?... He's here again today destabilising the party....be like cameron and disappear into the woodwork with the rest of the warmongers!

[Jack_]

FFS are you actually talking about New Labour 1997-2009?

New Labour?

New Labour which was a right-leaning authoritarian-inclined party...

...the exact opposite of a "lefty liberal" party ...???


I think you need to stop saying "lefty liberal" and "loony left" Truth, you don't seem to have an accurate grasp of the political compass at all. You think that Blairs labour was left and liberal. :umm2: wut.

I've tried explaining this several times to no avail. the truth also thinks it's 'loony lefties' who love and support (illegal) wars :unsure: you couldn't write it

[user104658]

I've tried explaining this several times to no avail. the truth also thinks it's 'loony lefties' who love and support (illegal) wars :unsure: you couldn't write it
George Bush? Such left, so loony.

[Ronald.]

I've always voted Labour and it's labour in Cardiff. However not so sure about Corbyn. Like some of his views, don't like others. Don't see him as much of a leader. That said i don't like that bloody theresa may either, she looks like a witch. R.

[Mystic Mock]

No matter what people think of Corbyn he at least can answer questions and he feels like a leader.

Where as Theresa May doesn't seem like she has a clue on how to run the country other than trying to send it back to the dark ages.

[Brillopad]

Looked at the results of this and lo and behold the lefties have it on here.

Said so myself on a previous thread only to see smug comments along the lines of 'I was having a laugh' as SD was full of the far-right. Point proven I think.

[user104658]

Looked at the results of this and lo and behold the lefties have it on here.

Said so myself on a previous thread only to see smug comments along the lines of 'I was having a laugh' as SD was full of the far-right. Point proven I think.

Well for one, bizarrely, the heavily right leaning posters seem to self identify as centrist more than right. I'm not sure what that is all about. Secondly, over 30 people have voted on the poll and there are not as many as 30 regular SD posters.

Imagining that every regular has voted, and with there being only three "right leaning" vote, I can only assume that at least 5 members are lying to themselves because off the top of my head I can think of at least 6 to 8.

[Brillopad]

Well for one, bizarrely, the heavily right leaning posters seem to self identify as centrist more than right. I'm not sure what that is all about. Secondly, over 30 people have voted on the poll and there are not as many as 30 regular SD posters.

Imagining that every regular has voted, and with there being only three "right leaning" vote, I can only assume that at least 5 members are lying to themselves because off the top of my head I can think of at least 6 to 8.

I take your point about how many voted as was aware of that when I made my comment but as the so-called 'far-righters' speak their minds on certain subjects I don't believe they would hold back on such a poll if they believed themselves to be far-right.

That label is placed by those making motivated assumptions based on very limited info as well as some attempting to undermine anyone with views unpopular with themselves. It is all just nonsence really.

[James]

A lot of the left-leaning posters can't post that much in Serious Debates, especially with starting threads, which defines what gets discussed on the forum.

I did a quick check there and about half of the threads on the first page of Serious Debates were started by Arista...

[Withano]

I take your point about how many voted as was aware of that when I made my comment but as the so-called 'far-righters' speak their minds on certain subjects I don't believe they would hold back on such a poll if they believed themselves to be far-right.

That label is placed by those making motivated assumptions based on very limited info as well as some attempting to undermine anyone with views unpopular with themselves. It is all just nonsence really.

But you havent voted on the poll either? Unless you identify right-leaning?

I honestly made the poll because I assumed nearly everybody would select one of the middle three options. I didnt see these results coming either.

Whats most confusing me is why there is so little support for right wing? Why have all but three ignored the poll? Or are the tibb members we believe to be right wing actually more in the centre?

There was one person in the thread who I would have thought would select one of the top two options, but they believe themself to be in the centre.. i guess this could apply to the others we assumed were on the right?

I made the poll anonymous to encourage truthful answers, maybe a public poll would have been different?

TiBB does have a younger demographic, and a lot of college and University graduates, so it doesnt surprise me that the poll leans left.. im so confused about the so few support of the right though. Trump and Farage are regularly praised, maybe people see them as centre though? I dont know! Weird for sure..

[Brillopad]

But you havent voted on the poll either? Unless you identify right-leaning?

I honestly made the poll because I assumed nearly everybody would select one of the middle three options. I didnt see these results coming either.

Whats most confusing me is why there is so little support for right wing? Why have all but three ignored the poll? Or are the tibb members we believe to be right wing actually more in the centre?

There was one person in the thread who I would have thought would select one of the top two options, but they believe themself to be in the centre.. i guess this could apply to the others we assumed were on the right?

I made the poll anonymous to encourage truthful answers, maybe a public poll would have been different?

TiBB does have a younger demographic, and a lot of college and University graduates, so it doesnt surprise me that the poll leans left.. im so confused about the so few support of the right though. Trump and Farage are regularly praised, maybe people see them as centre though? I dont know! Weird for sure..

I voted right-leaning as that is my opinion. In a way you confirm my point as you appear to assume someone to be far-right when that is not how they see themselves. That is your opinion, not fact.

Also some posters who many would likely describe as far-left voted as left-leaning or centre so there is a very obvious flaw in such a voting system, as nobody really knows anyone, only their viewpoints on certain issues, so judgements made can only be opinion, not fact.

[ebandit]

But you havent voted on the poll either?


i rarely vote.............................not keen on polls

funny thing is if i voted it would be ..................'moderate'

...................but taking that recent test......i came out 'complete red'

Mark L

[Withano]

I voted right-leaning as that is my opinion. In a way you confirm my point as you appear to assume someone to be far-right when that is not how they see themselves. That is your opinion, not fact.

Also some posters who many would likely describe as far-left voted as left-leaning or centre so there is a very obvious flaw in such a voting system, as nobody really knows anyone, only their viewpoints on certain issues, so judgements made can only be opinion, not fact.

it is helpful to know that you define yourself as right leaning, it makes sense of the poll a bit for me.

I guess SD comes across as right vs left because of the sources that are used, and because of the arguments that are brought up.. when in reality maybe a far-right or far-left post is just the easiest way to put a small point across? Or maybe people are more likely to contribute when they feel strongly on either side but this will rarely reflect their overall political values?

(I am discussing theories with you.. i think you think im fighting? Im not..)

[Brillopad]

it is helpful to know that you define yourself as right leaning, it makes sense of the poll a bit for me.

I guess SD comes across as right vs left because of the sources that are used, and because of the arguments that are brought up.. when in reality maybe a far-right or far-left post is just the easiest way to put a small point across? Or maybe people are more likely to contribute when they feel strongly on either side but this will rarely reflect their overall political values?

(I am discussing theories with you.. i think you think im fighting? Im not..)

No, don't pass out on me, I don't think that, as I largely agree with you.

[Northern Monkey]

Well for one, bizarrely, the heavily right leaning posters seem to self identify as centrist more than right. I'm not sure what that is all about. Secondly, over 30 people have voted on the poll and there are not as many as 30 regular SD posters.

Imagining that every regular has voted, and with there being only three "right leaning" vote, I can only assume that at least 5 members are lying to themselves because off the top of my head I can think of at least 6 to 8.

I didn't vote in the poll.I find it too hard to categorise myself.My political compass has me at slightly right wing and slightly libertarian but then i've never voted Tory and there is loads of their decisions I don't agree with and some of Corbyns that i do.
I think i'd have needed another twenty questions in their to get a full enough picture to categorise myself.

[Crimson Dynamo]

A lot of the left-leaning posters can't post that much in Serious Debates, especially with starting threads, which defines what gets discussed on the forum.

I did a quick check there and about half of the threads on the first page of Serious Debates were started by Arista...

why cant they post in SD?

[Cherie]

A lot of the left-leaning posters can't post that much in Serious Debates, especially with starting threads, which defines what gets discussed on the forum.

I did a quick check there and about half of the threads on the first page of Serious Debates were started by Arista...


And? I saw someone the other day moaning about the threads in SD and lo and behold they hadn't started any, which they are perfectly capable of doing

[Cherie]

But you havent voted on the poll either? Unless you identify right-leaning?

I honestly made the poll because I assumed nearly everybody would select one of the middle three options. I didnt see these results coming either.

Whats most confusing me is why there is so little support for right wing? Why have all but three ignored the poll? Or are the tibb members we believe to be right wing actually more in the centre?

There was one person in the thread who I would have thought would select one of the top two options, but they believe themself to be in the centre.. i guess this could apply to the others we assumed were on the right?

I made the poll anonymous to encourage truthful answers, maybe a public poll would have been different?

TiBB does have a younger demographic, and a lot of college and University graduates, so it doesnt surprise me that the poll leans left.. im so confused about the so few support of the right though. Trump and Farage are regularly praised, maybe people see them as centre though? I dont know! Weird for sure..


I see no reason for people to lie given it is anonymous

[user104658]

I didn't vote in the poll.I find it too hard to categorise myself.My political compass has me at slightly right wing and slightly libertarian but then i've never voted Tory and there is loads of their decisions I don't agree with and some of Corbyns that i do.
I think i'd have needed another twenty questions in their to get a full enough picture to categorise myself.
You're an anomaly NM, I remember saying as much in one of my PM convos with ol' Kirk. When we would exit the trenches and play football in the snow. :bawling:

[user104658]

And? I saw someone the other day moaning about the threads in SD and lo and behold they hadn't started any, which they are perfectly capable of doing
But Arista gets angry. You wouldn't like him when he's angry :umm2:

[Cherie]

But Arista gets angry. You wouldn't like him when he's angry :umm2:

Arista knows how to share :nono:

[user104658]

Arista knows how to share :nono:
He doesn't! I've been to his "special" parties and he never lets anyone else go first. ALWAYS sloppy seconds. That's not sharing in my book :nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I didn't vote in the poll.I find it too hard to categorise myself.My political compass has me at slightly right wing and slightly libertarian but then i've never voted Tory and there is loads of their decisions I don't agree with and some of Corbyns that i do.
I think i'd have needed another twenty questions in their to get a full enough picture to categorise myself.

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[Withano]

I see no reason for people to lie given it is anonymous

No, me either really. But as of now, zero people identify as right wing.. that seems a bit off, i wasjust throwing out theories as to why this might be.

[Brillopad]

No, me either really. But as of now, zero people identify as right wing.. that seems a bit off, i wasjust throwing out theories as to why this might be.

That doesn't really surprise me as I think people get wrongly labelled by people who don't like even the mere suggestion of any opposition to immigration. That of course does not make them right in their assumptions.

[user104658]

That doesn't really surprise me as I think people get wrongly labelled by people who don't like even the mere suggestion of any opposition to immigration. That of course does not make them right in their assumptions.
It's not just that though, there are several people on here who have expressed unambiguously right wing views in all sorts of domestic political / economic areas that have nothing at all to do with immigration. I can only assume that there are people self identifying as centrist when what they actually are expressing are definite right wing views?

[Withano]

That doesn't really surprise me as I think people get wrongly labelled by people who don't like even the mere suggestion of any opposition to immigration. That of course does not make them right in their assumptions.

Why does it not surprise you? Zero of any 33 people identifying as right wing is completely bizarre!

[user104658]

Why does it not surprise you? Zero of any 33 people identifying as right wing is completely bizarre!
The right wing doesn't actually exist, it's fake news.

[Northern Monkey]

You're an anomaly NM, I remember saying as much in one of my PM convos with ol' Kirk. When we would exit the trenches and play football in the snow. :bawling:

:laugh:

I don't think i'm that unique.I think i'd fall into the category of disenfranchised voters who have been left without a political home due to Corbyn and the far left taking over the Labour party.
I have never voted Tory and never would because I believe in a fairer more equal society and totally disagree with things like bedroom tax and hitting the disabled and homeless.I think Tory austerity is too far,I don't think zero hours contracts should be forced on people when they're probably better off on benefits,I think workers rights are important and believe work should pay a living wage.I think on balance things like the railways should be nationalised so there is a body we can hold accountable etc etc.All things Corbyn wants.

But....

I'm against over taxing and alienating corporations because i'd rather we attract businesses and encourage competition,I think the NHS is possibly unsustainable and needs to be looked at realistically and all options considered,I think immigration needs to be controlled better and worked on to be reduced,I believe in British jobs for British workers first,I believe that when people come here they need to fit in with our culture and not the other way round and i don't believe Islamic ideas such as Sharia should be pandered to in any way as i think Islam is the most backwards of the three main religions,I'm against these parallel societies who make their own rules which can contradict the law and believe in taking a hard line on terrorists and their sympathisers.
On top of that i think Corbyn seems like a nice chap but would be a terrible PM as he is clearly imo incapable of taking the hard decisions,He would possibly obliterate our defences and has already taken a position which would castrate our nuclear deterrent were he to become PM leaving Europe in a more vulnerable position and i don't like him calling terrorist organisations like Hamas "friends".

So after all that i'm probably a right winger in denial with left wing tendancies.
I'm politically homeless and find it extremely difficult to "pick a side".I'm not even on the fence.I have a position on all these issues just no party who caters to them.
However i think there are many many people like me.I know plenty.
Modern society imo is waay too complex to put everyone in these left/right/centre pigeon holes.I would vote centre but i don't think that covers me as it suggests a more moderate position on the issues than i have.Hence why I didn't vote in the poll.

[Vicky.]

Slightly left overall.

[Vicky.]

FFS are you actually talking about New Labour 1997-2009?

New Labour?

New Labour which was a right-leaning authoritarian-inclined party...

...the exact opposite of a "lefty liberal" party ...???


I think you need to stop saying "lefty liberal" and "loony left" Truth, you don't seem to have an accurate grasp of the political compass at all. You think that Blairs labour was left and liberal. :umm2: wut.
...quite.

[Brillopad]

I don't know how to copy the chart across, was as honest as I could be, and scored as sitting right on the A/L line and 4 columns into the left, so for those who believe in in this I apparently veer more to the left. Says a lot about all this far-right c**p then.

[Withano]

Looked at the results of this and lo and behold the lefties have it on here.



I don't know how to copy the chart across, was as honest as I could be, and scored as sitting right on the A/L line and 4 columns into the left, so for those who believe in in this I apparently veer more to the left. Says a lot about all this far-right c**p then.

Maybe you should avoid comments like these if you want to be seen as more central / if you are actually more left yourself..? Because it makes you sound quite right wing?..

[Brillopad]

Maybe you should avoid comments like these if you want to be seen as more central / if you are actually more left yourself..? Because it makes you sound quite right wing?..

I guess it's beause I do have views to the left on some issues, but not on mass immigration. I think that is probably in keeping with many. Some people just like to label those not supportive of mass immigration in itself as being far-right which is nonsence.

[Withano]

I guess it's beause I do have views to the left on some issues, but not on mass immigration. I think that is probably in keeping with many. Some people just like to label those not supportive of mass immigration in itself as being far-right which is nonsence.

But surely labelling people who are supportive of mass immigration as 'lefties' is the same difference?

[Northern Monkey]

I also think that some people after they've studied or even just learned abit about politics and this so called left/right divide will change their thinking on many issues so as to identify with a particular ideology rather than letting those ideologies reflect their position.
That's not to say that nobody should change their mind on anything.I've softened on many things over the years but not just to fit into one of these pigeon holes.

[Kizzy]

How strange nobody has actually admitted to being right wing, like it's some dirty secret :laugh:

[Vicky.]

How strange nobody has actually admitted to being right wing, like it's some dirty secret :laugh:

I was thinking that actually. I suspect some may have been less than honest, or maybe the very right members have not voted yet :)

[Brillopad]

How strange nobody has actually admitted to being right wing, like it's some dirty secret :laugh:

Why would anyone lie just to fit with your assumptions? I believe some said right leaning including me. I see you didn't say far-left as some would have expected. So your point is exactly.

[Kizzy]

I supposevif you're classifying yourself as right leaning I must be far left...as in so far left I need to change my address to ms left of leftville, left world.

[Withano]

I supposevif you're classifying yourself as right leaning I must be far left...as in so far left I need to change my address to ms left of leftville, left world.

:joker:

[Underscore]

Slightly left leaning.

Centre left.

[Beso]

A bit of everything i guess cause it depends what im looking at.

[Matthew.]

left 90% of the time, although there are some issues that i suppose that i am a bit “not completely left” on

[montblanc]

left

[Oliver_W]

I'd say I "lean right" as a short hand.

I agree with gay marriage, but that's not really left or right these days. I think we should have controlled immigration, and I want the green areas of the UK protected. Again, I don't think either of these are political, per se. I think we should have low flat taxes, and small government.

[Brillopad]

Centre right generally.

[MTVN]

I think the result is kinda skewed because people don't really identify themselves as 'right wing' the way the left do. The left treat that identifier as a source of great importance and wear it with pride, those right of centre would be more likely to use terms like 'conservative' or maybe populist or libertarian, 'right wing' is something that would more often be imposed on them

[ethanjames]

in between left and slightly left leaning

[Brillopad]

I think the result is kinda skewed because people don't really identify themselves as 'right wing' the way the left do. The left treat that identifier as a source of great importance and wear it with pride, those right of centre would be more likely to use terms like 'conservative' or maybe populist or libertarian, 'right wing' is something that would more often be imposed on them

I agree with that. I think the term ‘right wing’ is imposed by some and meant as an insult. No wonder people react.

[user104658]

Err what you can't just have threads jumping a year into the future like it's a totally normal thing to happen. It's ****ing confusing. Especially as half of SD's has had personality transplants since Feb 2017 and their mere-12-month-old opinions now seem bizarre and incompatible with their current whims.

:fist:

[user104658]

Isn't it ironic that on a map, The US is to the left of the UK and Russia / China are to the right?

:think: blows my mind.

[James]

I noticed during the last general election campaign that many of the posters that would be characterised as right-wing actually said they were voting Labour.

[Kazanne]

I don't consider myself any. I'm just me. If somebody want's to stick a label on me, then they're more than welcome. I'll just say "That's great" then nothing will happen, and life will move on.

I'd like to believe that I just try to live my life by common sense.

Exactly this ^:wavey:

[Crimson Dynamo]

So the results of the poll really do back up earlier accusations of a right wing bias in SD and beyond...


:laugh2:

[Twosugars]

So the results of the poll really do back up earlier accusations of a right wing bias in SD and beyond...


:laugh2:

what they back up is that right wingers are either embarrassed to admit they're right wing or are in denial
:hee:

[Cherie]

what they back up is that right wingers are either embarrassed to admit they're right wing or are in denial
:hee:

the poll is anonymous so why would anyone be embarrassed given no one would know :suspect:

[Tom4784]

I remember doing political tests a while back and they came back as left leaning but
mostly centre. I'd agree with that.

[Twosugars]

the poll is anonymous so why would anyone be embarrassed given no one would know :suspect:

because right wing in this country has bad connotations? :shrug:

or maybe there's no denial and no embarrassment but simply right wing posters needed their forum persecution theory confirmed and voted accordingly

imo, it'd be better to do statistical analysis of a month-worth of posts for expression of left or right wing views

[user104658]

So the results of the poll really do back up earlier accusations of a right wing bias in SD and beyond...


:laugh2:

Are you honestly claiming that over 30 left-leaning members post in SD? :hehe:

[user104658]

In terms of the poll; 9 or 10 centre seems accurate for regular posters, seems accurate for right-leaning. We also have members who are clearly "right" and not just right-leaning, whether they've not voted at all or voted themselves are right-leaning for whatever reason, I don't know.

For the left, 2 far-left seems accurate enough. For members who actually POST, beyond that there are maybe 8 to 10 scattered between left-leaning and left. The idea that there are 29 is ridiculous tbh. There are < 20 members TOTAL who semi-regularly use SD.

[user104658]

the poll is anonymous so why would anyone be embarrassed given no one would know :suspect:

It is odd but there are clearly members who are more than right-leaning but zero votes :shrug:. No one is "far right" but based on various threads, there are 3 or 4 at least who are full-blood "right". Being a neoliberal capitalist who happens to support the NHS as well does not make someone a centrist :joker:

[Cherie]

because right wing in this country has bad connotations? :shrug:

or maybe there's no denial and no embarrassment but simply right wing posters needed their forum persecution theory confirmed and voted accordingly

imo, it'd be better to do statistical analysis of a month-worth of posts for expression of left or right wing views

so does far left but that hasn't stopped somebody saying they are far left :laugh:

[Cherie]

It is odd but there are clearly members who are more than right-leaning but zero votes :shrug:. No one is "far right" but based on various threads, there are 3 or 4 at least who are full-blood "right". Being a neoliberal capitalist who happens to support the NHS as well does not make someone a centrist :joker:

Maybe they haven't voted or don't consider themselves fully right as there are some left issues they agree with, politics is nuanced, it's difficult to pin anyone down to anyone unless they fly the nazi flag

[Crimson Dynamo]

Are you honestly claiming that over 30 left-leaning members post in SD? :hehe:

absolutely not

id say no more than 25

[Twosugars]

It is odd but there are clearly members who are more than right-leaning but zero votes :shrug:. No one is "far right" but based on various threads, there are 3 or 4 at least who are full-blood "right". Being a neoliberal capitalist who happens to support the NHS as well does not make someone a centrist :joker:
this

[Vicky.]

OK I just deleted like 180 posts or something in one go. I may have removed posts that did not deserve to be deleted but honestly, near the whole thread just needed nuked tbh, since it was bumped. If I deleted any posts that were not snipey baity nonsense or nothing but a smiley or something, or quoting snipey baity nonsense, then I apologize. But the state of this section after I have been away for maybe a week or so is ridiculous. The constant turning round many threads to the same topic is just bizzarre. And I do not get why some seem incapable of discussing things like adults. Reopening in a sec, but I will be getting very tough on those who continue behaving in the manner I have described mind, its beyond a joke now.

Also can I suggest that members just ignore obvious trolling posts? Report too if you wish, but replying to them at all just turns the entire thread into a carbon copy of so any other SD threads in the past year or so.

[Maru]

OK I just deleted like 180 posts or something in one go. I may have removed posts that did not deserve to be deleted but honestly, near the whole thread just needed nuked tbh, since it was bumped. If I deleted any posts that were not snipey baity nonsense or nothing but a smiley or something, or quoting snipey baity nonsense, then I apologize. But the state of this section after I have been away for maybe a week or so is ridiculous. The constant turning round many threads to the same topic is just bizzarre. And I do not get why some seem incapable of discussing things like adults. Reopening in a sec, but I will be getting very tough on those who continue behaving in the manner I have described mind, its beyond a joke now.

Also can I suggest that members just ignore obvious trolling posts? Report too if you wish, but replying to them at all just turns the entire thread into a carbon copy of so any other SD threads in the past year or so.

:clap1:

[user104658]

I will be getting very tough on those who continue behaving in the manner I have described.

:smug: SD's is so sexually charged lately.