Trump trashes BBC in press conference

[Liberty4eva]

:hee:

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[Crimson Dynamo]

He owned that slimy BBC twit

:joker:

[Jack_]

Har har fascism is so funny LOLZ!

The BBC is fantastic btw

[arista]

He owned that slimy BBC twit

:joker:


Yes Jon Sopel
a Utter Fool to give him back chat
like that - he will never
get any respect back , now.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Har har fascism is so funny LOLZ!

The BBC is fantastic btw

wait are you saying its not bias in the extreme?

[Jack_]

Yes Jon Sopel
a Utter Fool to give him back chat
like that - he will never
get any respect back , now.

Because the job of a political journalist is to earn the respect of the person they're interviewing? I don't think so

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nick on LBC loved the clip and played it a few times this morning laughing like a drain :joker:

[Jack_]

wait are you saying its not bias in the extreme?

The BBC or Jon Sopel specifically?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Because the job of a political journalist is to earn the respect of the person they're interviewing? I don't think so

The clever ones let them think so to get the best stories, the vain ones like him just get nothing and end up as he will as royal correspondent

[arista]

Har har fascism is so funny LOLZ!

The BBC is fantastic btw


Yes Jack , it was
but the Evil UK BBC TAX
must go , now.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The BBC or Jon Sopel specifically?

Both

I worked for quite a few years for the BBC...

[Jack_]

The clever ones let them think so to get the best stories, the vain ones like him just get nothing and end up as he will as royal correspondent

No sorry but this is ****ing absurd. The job of a political journalist is not to earn the respect of their interviewee, whether they're a local councillor or the POTUS. They are public servants and their job is to ensure they're accountable to the electorate. Did many complain about Paxman's interrogation of politicians on Newsnight? I don't think so, and rightly so too - if anything the respect was with him and not the other way around.

It is all well and good for people like you and I to have opinions on the quality of various media sources, in fact it should be encouraged - but the President of the United States cannot point blank refuse to talk to certain sections of the press because he doesn't like the fact they're critical of him, and subsequently label them 'fake news'. It is fascist through and through. Fox News slandered Obama for years, insinuating he was a Muslim and that he wasn't even born in the US - but I don't remember him refusing to take questions from them at press conferences or acting like a petulant child?

[Jack_]

Both

I worked for quite a few years for the BBC...

What always makes me laugh about the accusations of bias thrown at the BBC is that they're levelled from both those on the right and those on the left. Constantly. What does that actually tell you? That in actual fact they do a pretty good job of riding the middle.

[Tregard]

Trump going after the BBC like that was absolutely moronic, much like mostly anything he does. That entire press conference was a baffling mess of half-truths and ego stroking, just insane.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What always makes me laugh about the accusations of bias thrown at the BBC is that they're levelled from both those on the right and those on the left. Constantly. What does that actually tell you? That in actual fact they do a pretty good job of riding the middle.

i have never heard of anyone saying the bbc were right wing

are you serious

[arista]

Because the job of a political journalist is to earn the respect of the person they're interviewing? I don't think so

Look This is Not Political President.
He won by helping the little guy

Infact Jack
because he is not part of that Washington DC
swamp, you must be nice to President Trump

That Acosta Reporter CNN HD
was lucky to get 20mins
with President Trump.

[Jack_]

i have never heard of anyone saying the bbc were right wing

are you serious

You obviously don't read enough sources then

The constant criticism levelled at Laura Kuenssberg for her treatment and endless trashing of Corbyn (that the BBC Trust found breached impartiality rules, as well as another senior figure commenting that BBC News' depiction of him had been unfair)? Nigel Farage being invited on Question Time more than literally anyone else? The refusal to report on anti government marches whilst other channels do? The general discreet support of the government? These are all pretty blatant things.

From my perspective this all levels out when you consider other evidence and that of course they're going to be pro establishment when they're under threat of being cut, but yes, there is definitely accusations of bias thrown at the BBC from both those on the right and left.

[Crimson Dynamo]

“It’s a bit like walking into a Sunday meeting of the Flat Earth Society. As they discuss great issues of the day, they discuss them from the point of view that the earth is flat.

“If someone says, ‘No, no, no, the earth is round!’, they think this person is an extremist. That’s what it’s like for someone with my right-of-centre views working inside the BBC.”

– Jeff Randall, former BBC business editor

[Crimson Dynamo]

The BBC is “a publicly-funded urban organisation with an abnormally large proportion of younger people, of people in ethnic minorities and almost certainly of gay people, compared with the population at large”.

All this, he said, “creates an innate liberal bias inside the BBC”.

–Andrew Marr

[Crimson Dynamo]

By far the most popular and widely read newspapers at the BBC are The Guardian and The Independent. *Producers refer to them routinely for the line to take on *running stories, and for inspiration on which items to cover. In the later stages of my career, I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.

– Peter Sissons, Former BBC News and Current Affairs presenter

[Crimson Dynamo]

“In the BBC I joined 30 years ago [as a production trainee, in 1979], there was, in much of current affairs, in terms of people’s personal politics, which were quite vocal, a massive bias to the left. The organisation did struggle then with impartiality. And journalistically, staff were quite mystified by the early years of Thatcher.

“Now it is a completely different generation. There is much less overt tribalism among the young journalists who work for the BBC. It is like the New Statesman, which used to be various shades of soft and hard left and is now more technocratic. We’re like that, too.”

– Mark Thomspon, former BBC Director General

[Crimson Dynamo]

Roger Mosey, former head of BBC TV news, has published a book giving chapter and verse on the Corporation's liberal bias.

Mosey, who also used to edit Radio 4's Today programme, confirms that Auntie leans so far Leftwards that she frequently topples over into propaganda.

He's the first truly senior BBC executive to do so. As such, he is in a position to provide killer details.

We learn not just the extent of the BBC's liberal group-think, but also exactly how news stories are reshaped and 'sanitised' to fit the agenda of the only newspaper the Beeb's journalists read from cover to cover — the Guardian, it goes without saying.

'One night on the Ten O'Clock News we broadcast a package from a racially diverse part of Britain, where ethnic minorities had become a majority of the local population,' writes Mosey.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3135408/DAMIAN-THOMPSON-Shock-Horror-BBC-boss-admits-s-biased.html

[Northern Monkey]

"Impartial,Free and Fair" :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

"Impartial,Free and Fair" :joker:

free?

:joker:

[Jack_]

Over the weekend the BBC’s former political editor confessed — in an interview in the Sunday Times — that he had written to several BBC colleagues over concerns that the corporation’s political coverage is biased against Jeremy Corbyn. When asked by Lynn Barber whether he was ‘shocked’ by the way the BBC ‘rubbish Jeremy Corbyn’, Robinson replied ‘yes’:

‘Yes. Oddly, although I was off work, I did drop a note to a few people after his first weekend saying this is really interesting and we owe it to the audience to sound as if we’re interested.’

[Jack_]

Rather than having a leftwing bias, research actually suggests the BBC's output is biased towards establishment and rightwing sources. A study by Cardiff University academics found that while there is always a bias towards political incumbents, the ratio in favour of Conservative politicians appearing on BBC news is far greater than it was in favour of Labour figures when Gordon Brown was prime minister. Business representatives appear much more than they do on commercial news, and appear 19 times more frequently than trade union voices on the BBC Six O'Clock News.

[Jack_]

The BBC broke accuracy and impartiality rules in a News at Six report about Jeremy Corbyn's view on shoot-to-kill, the BBC's governing body has said.

...

The BBC Trust said the BBC "was wrong in this case to present an answer Mr Corbyn had given to a question about 'shoot to kill' as though it were his answer to a question he had not in fact been asked".

[Jack_]

The former chair of the BBC Trust has accused the broadcaster’s journalists of “quite extraordinary attacks” on Jeremy Corbyn, and questioned whether BBC bosses had abandoned impartiality in their coverage of the Labour leader.

In comments that appear to reinforce recent criticisms of the BBC from supporters of Mr Corbyn, Sir Michael Lyons said he could “understand why people are worried” about impartiality at the public broadcaster.

...

Speaking to BBC Radio 4’s World at One programme he said: “I don’t think I’m alone in feeling that the BBC has sought to hedge its bets of late. There have been some quite extraordinary attacks on the elected leader of the Labour Party. I mean quite extraordinary. I can understand why people are worried about whether some of the most senior editorial voices at the BBC have lost their impartiality in this.”

"All I’m voicing is the anxieties that have been expressed publicly by others,” he added.

[Jack_]

The media coverage of Jeremy Corbyn has been characterised by a “marked and persistent imbalance” in favour of sources critical to him, a report has claimed.

On TV news, which is bound by strict impartiality rules, double the airtime was given to sources critical of Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn than to those supportive of him, the report found.

[user104658]

Anyone who doesn't know how pro-Tory the BBC were back when the ConDem coalition got into power has a very, very short memory.

[Jack_]

I can play this game too LT :rolleyes: it's funny that all of your quotes are handpicked straight from a blog about liberal bias at the BBC

Give it up and accept you're wrong. Criticism exists on both sides, both sides have a point and thus they cancel each other out - in actuality they do a pretty good job of remaining balanced.

[thesheriff443]

Lt has been crying wolf for a lot time, he's reduced to making outrageous comments to gain attention.
I like lt but the real member is far more interesting than the person he portrays.

[Jack_]

Lt has been crying wolf for a lot time, he's reduced to making outrageous comments to gain attention.
I like lt but the real member is far more interesting than the person he portrays.

Expose ha!

[Rob!]

It's worth pointing out I think the difference between ITV News's covering of Trump and the BBC. ITV couldn't make their reporting more negative but from everything I've seen, the BBC has remained fairly impartial. Trump's a diverse figure, and that's putting it politely. He literally cannot expect any other treatment from the media. The press conference yesterday was unedited and live. I watched the whole thing and I can honestly say that the persona the media outlets have been portraying of him are one hundred percent accurate.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lt has been crying wolf for a lot time, he's reduced to making outrageous comments to gain attention.
I like lt but the real member is far more interesting than the person he portrays.

all are quotes from people working at the BBC, if you have quotes fro people working and running the BBC that claim right wing bias post them

attacking a member personally is against forum rules and can lead to a ban

[the truth]

What always makes me laugh about the accusations of bias thrown at the BBC is that they're levelled from both those on the right and those on the left. Constantly. What does that actually tell you? That in actual fact they do a pretty good job of riding the middle.

lol theyre lefting loony liberals who are also in the pocket of the monarchy who own the land

[Kizzy]

The BBC is “a publicly-funded urban organisation with an abnormally large proportion of younger people, of people in ethnic minorities and almost certainly of gay people, compared with the population at large”.

All this, he said, “creates an innate liberal bias inside the BBC”.

–Andrew Marr

Why... why would that create a 'liberal bias' :/ are people in these categories identifiable in their political persuasion....how?

By the way he said this in 2006 when he was a shadow cabinet secretary, bleating that there were not enough conservatives at the BBC.... A lot has happened since then, he and Kuenssberg for one ...the balance if any was evident has now surely gone the other way in their political reportage?

'Former political editor Andrew Marr argued in 2006 that the liberal bias of the BBC is the product of the types of people the Corporation employs, and is thus cultural not political.[8] In 2011, Peter Oborne wrote in his Daily Telegraph blog, "Rather than representing the nation as a whole, it [the BBC] has become a vital resource – and sometimes attack weapon – for a narrow, arrogant Left-Liberal elite".[12]

Speaking to journalists at a Broadcasting Press Guild lunch in 2009, Jeremy Hunt, the Shadow Cabinet Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, claimed that BBC News needed more Conservatives: "I wish they would go and actively look for some Conservatives to be part of their news-gathering team, because they have acknowledged that one of their problems is that people who want to work at the Corporation tend to be from the centre-left. That's why they have this issue with what Andrew Marr called an innate liberal bias."[13]

Other commentators have taken the opposite view and criticised the BBC for being part of The Establishment. The commentator Mehdi Hasan in the New Statesman pointed out the right-wing backgrounds of many BBC presenters and journalists, querying why even many "liberals and leftists" accept the right's description of BBC bias.[14] Guardian columnist Owen Jones is also of the opinion that the BBC is biased towards the right owing to numerous key posts being filled by Conservatives.[15]'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_BBC

[user104658]

Why... why would that create a 'liberal bias' :/ are people in these categories identifiable in their political persuasion....how?

Because right-wingers intensely dislike blacks, gays, and anyone under 35?

[user104658]

lol theyre lefting loony liberals who are also in the pocket of the monarchy who own the land

That DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE truth, there's nothing LESS "lefty liberal" than the bloody Monarchy :joker:. BNP members exclusively masturbate to sepia photographs of Liz. STATISTICAL FACT.

[user104658]

Also... I'd just add... I actually despise the BBC. LT paradox incoming.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Well played mr trump. Rip into the media in hope they forget your dealings with Russia. His impeachment can't come sooner

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well played mr trump. Rip into the media in hope they forget your dealings with Russia. His impeachment can't come sooner

what trump dealings with Russia?

[Kizzy]

Because right-wingers intensely dislike blacks, gays, and anyone under 35?

It kinda sounds like that doesn't it? I expanded that post btw :)

[Kizzy]

Is the romance dead?...

But Mr Smith, who joined the Fox News Channel at its inception in 1996, said the American people deserved to know the truth about any “improper communications with Russian officials.”

He said: "Your opposition was hacked and the Russians were responsible for it and your people were on the phone with Russia on the same day it was happening and we're fools for asking the questions?"

Remember trump... you can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-fox-news-shep-smith-defence-russia-press-conference-video-watch-a7585041.html

[Jack_]

lol theyre lefting loony liberals who are also in the pocket of the monarchy who own the land

Ignoring the evidence and only looking at and believing the accusations levelled from your side doesn't make you right I'm afraid. Those on the left who criticise the BBC for leaning to the right are wrong, and those on the right who criticise the BBC for leaning to the left are wrong. And both are right too. Confusing, eh!

And that's a futile point since the entirety of the UK media worship the ground the royal family walk upon. And no other channel sucks the proverbial dick of the monarchy more than ****ing ITV. You have to be kidding me.

[Tregard]

what trump dealings with Russia?

The ones that prompted the FBI investigation, as well as examination of Russia's influence by both House and Senate, with committees containing both democrats and republicans.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The ones that prompted the FBI investigation, as well as examination of Russia's influence by both House and Senate, with committees containing both democrats and republicans.

standard stuff with nothing of any interest found

[Niamh.]

Just watched it, was expecting a bit more than him interrupting and insulting him before he even asked a question tbh :shrug:

[Kizzy]

Apparently the whole press conference was a disaster with the outburst from him and the drubbing by fox, he's losing even his biggest supporters now over his Russian dalliances.

[MB.]

standard stuff

:unsure:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Apparently the whole press conference was a disaster with the outburst from him and the drubbing by fox, he's losing even his biggest supporters now over his Russian dalliances.

Apparent to who?

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1980294624/DJT_Headshot_V2_bigger.jpgDonald J. Trump Verified account
‏@realDonaldTrump

Thank you for all of the nice statements on the Press Conference yesterday. Rush Limbaugh said one of greatest ever. Fake media not happy!:joker:

[Niamh.]

He's embarrassing

[Crimson Dynamo]

He's embarrassing

Yes I wish he was more like say Tony Blair, Gordon Brown or Corbyn

3 greats of politics...

[Niamh.]

Yes I wish he was more like say Tony Blair, Gordon Brown or Corbyn

3 greats of politics...

This is relevant how to my post? I'm just talking about him not your politicians, start a new thread if you want to discuss them lads :hee:

[user104658]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1980294624/DJT_Headshot_V2_bigger.jpgDonald J. Trump Verified account
‏@realDonaldTrump

We had a press conference, and it was a real press conference. People said I was kidding. I don't kid. I do all of the best press conferences. Rush Limbaugh said one of greatest ever.



...Rush Limbaugh ffs. He's practically a cartoon character. I'm genuinely starting to think that you're doing some sort of really drawn-out satire skit, LT. One day you're going to suddenly say "LOL fooled you all, I actually do know that these people are ****ing ridiculous."

[Kizzy]

Apparent to who?

everyone except you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

everyone except you.


oh you dont know


"apparently its going to be a really good summer"

"apparently they found a Reliant Robin on the moon"

[user104658]

oh you dont know


"apparently its going to be a really good summer"

"apparently they found a Reliant Robin on the moon"

The difference being that with some minor googling, one can personally witness Trump being a disaster in real-time every time he opens his face.

[jennyjuniper]

Har har fascism is so funny LOLZ!

The BBC is fantastic btw

It used to be, until a load of 'luvvies' took over.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1980294624/DJT_Headshot_V2_bigger.jpgDonald J. Trump Verified account
‏@realDonaldTrump

We had a press conference, and it was a real press conference. People said I was kidding. I don't kid. I do all of the best press conferences. Rush Limbaugh said one of greatest ever.



...Rush Limbaugh ffs. He's practically a cartoon character. I'm genuinely starting to think that you're doing some sort of really drawn-out satire skit, LT. One day you're going to suddenly say "LOL fooled you all, I actually do know that these people are ****ing ridiculous."

:joker: yeah thats great TS, banter, omg, shook

[Crimson Dynamo]

The difference being that with some minor googling, one can personally witness Trump being a disaster in real-time every time he opens his face.

people loved that press conference, how good it was was the lead story and comment on the award winning Nick Ferrari breakfast show and the award winning 2 Mikes on Talksport (to name but 2)

How many awards have you won in your bookies TS?

[Kizzy]

Nick Ferarri?! :joker: And you mock the canary?.... bahahahahaha!!

[user104658]

How many awards have you won in your bookies TS?

Three :hee:.

But oooh dear... somebody seems to be getting upset? Attempting to belittle me for what I do to pay the bills... hmm. Well I'll give you this; it's an exceptionally clever and mature move so I feel on the merit of that we'll pretend it didn't happen? I know you don't actually want to go there ...

:joker: yeah thats great TS, banter, omg, shook

Yes very upset :worry:. Take 5 minutes and come back with a clear head.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Three :hee:.

But oooh dear... somebody seems to be getting upset? Attempting to belittle me for what I do to pay the bills... hmm. Well I'll give you this; it's an exceptionally clever and mature move so I feel on the merit of that we'll pretend it didn't happen? I know you don't actually want to go there ...



Yes very upset :worry:. Take 5 minutes and come back with a clear head.

just as i thought

likes to sling it out but oh dear


does not like it back


figures

[Niamh.]

Put down the handbags ladies, back on topic :nono:

[user104658]

just as i thought

likes to sling it out but oh dear


does not like it back


figures

Likes to sling what out, exactly? I haven't had to resort to getting petty and personal with you because there's a gold mine to dig into that is relevant to the topic, and if you wish to respond in kind, we're all good. I understand that you're failing miserably to find any comeback that is relevant to the topic... but in that case, surely better to say nothing?

On the OTHER hand... if you do want to take the kiddie gloves off, I'm game :joker:. I don't think the mods will like it much though...

[user104658]

Put down the handbags ladies, back on topic :nono:

See? :nono:

[Tom4784]

Just a fascist being a fascist.

Nothing to discuss really, just the worst president ever being his usual classless self.

[Niamh.]

:laugh2: he is comedy gold though tbf

"We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country. You know what uranium is, right? This thing called nuclear weapons, and other things. Like, lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things. Nobody talks about that."

[user104658]

:laugh2: he is comedy gold though tbf

"We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country. You know what uranium is, right? This thing called nuclear weapons, and other things. Like, lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things. Nobody talks about that."

Nobody talks about the bad things that are done with uranium? I'm pretty sure that 90% of the time uranium comes up in conversation it's to talk about the bad things :think:. Or is he just pointing out that uranium isn't a common topic of conversation...

[Niamh.]

That quote gave me Rick grimes vibes

[user104658]

That quote gave me Rick grimes vibes

I have just looked up a Trump quotes page and read them to myself in y head... but in Rick's voice.

Honestly amazing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/806665910190751744/nOD-M9UC.jpg

"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bring crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people."

[Niamh.]

:laugh2:

[Northern Monkey]

:laugh2: he is comedy gold though tbf

"We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country. You know what uranium is, right? This thing called nuclear weapons, and other things. Like, lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things. Nobody talks about that.":joker:

[Northern Monkey]

Nobody talks about the bad things that are done with uranium? I'm pretty sure that 90% of the time uranium comes up in conversation it's to talk about the bad things :think:. Or is he just pointing out that uranium isn't a common topic of conversation...

There should be a thread 'Say good things about uranium'

[Niamh.]

There should be a thread 'Say good things about uranium'

:laugh2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/05/Limbaugh526-420x315.jpg

Thursday following President Donald Trump’s press conference to announce his pick for Labor Secretary, Alexander Acosta, conservative talker Rush Limbaugh applauded Trump’s performance on his nationally syndicated radio show.

Limbaugh said while the media still won’t warm up to Trump, it was what his supporters wanted to see, which was a willingness to tout his achievements and take on some of the claims from the media.

“You know it is hard to say — you get caught up in the moment,” Limbaugh said. “But this was one of the most effective press conferences I have ever seen. The press is going to hate him even more after this. Don’t misunderstand. When I say effective, I’m talking about rallying people who voted for him to stay with him. He made a point — ‘What chaos? You’re reporting chaos. We’re not in chaos. We’re a well-oiled machine. We got one of the smoothest running machines in the history of machines. We got one of the best administrations in the history of administrations.'”

“And he rattled off the achievements they’ve had here that the media is not reporting because they’re so focused on whether or not Trump worked with Russia to screw Hillary out of the presidency,” he continued. “And he was reassuring the people he’s on top of everything. Nothing has changed. Everything he campaigned on, he is doing. All he is doing is fulfilling campaign promises. And of course, the Democrats don’t like him. Of course, the media don’t like him. It isn’t going to stop him.”

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/05/Limbaugh526-420x315.jpg

[Black Dagger]

I love delusional people.

[arista]

I love delusional people.


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