Even Fox News is turning on Donald Trump

[Niamh.]

http://i.imgur.com/Crtw9Y0.jpg?1

Donald Trump has "crossed the line", according to Fox News - his most important media ally.

After a raging and bizarrely incoherent press conference, in which Trump accused reporters of misinformation, mistakes and FAKE NEWS, Trump predictably took to Twitter for a rant.

But his latest tweet reaches a whole new level of terrifying.

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!
9:48 PM - 17 Feb 2017
47,640 47,640 Retweets 149,086 149,086 likes

That's the leader of the 'Free World' accusing the media, the most indisputable cornerstone of any democratic society, of being the "enemy of the American people".

(The first edit of the tweet actually included the word "SICK!" at the end.)

Notice how media Goliath and television channel Fox News is notably absent from that list.

That's because the POTUS seems to get a huge amount of information from the channel and has done for a number of years.

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Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
My statement as to what's happening in Sweden was in reference to a story that was broadcast on @FoxNews concerning immigrants & Sweden.
9:57 PM - 19 Feb 2017
21,182 21,182 Retweets 80,298 80,298 likes


So, here's a sentence you'd never thought you'd hear.

Even Fox News thinks Trump went too far.

'Fox News Sunday' anchor Chris Wallace, appearing as a guest on the 'Fox and Friends', was asked whether Trump's ongoing feud was truly dangerous.

He responded with a famous quote by Thomas Jefferson:

Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.

Wallace went on to explain that while it is normal for presidents to clash with the press,Trump had "crossed a line" describing them as the enemy.

"Look, we're big boys. We criticise presidents. They want to criticise us back, that's fine. But when he said that the fake news media is not my enemy, it's the enemy of the American people, I believe that crosses an important line."

Yes, presidents have always had, and politicians have always had, problems with the press. They want good press. The press doesn't always give it to them.

But what Jefferson was saying there is, dispute all of our disputes, that to the functioning of a free and fair democracy, you must have an independent press.

Host Pete Hesgeth later questioned whether Trump was actually referring to the "hidden bias" of the press, rather than the independence of the press.

Wallace responded: "I think there's absolutely something there, and if he had said that, you wouldn't have heard a peep out of me."

Lord knows, Barack Obama criticised Fox News. If Donald Trump wants to criticise the New York Times, that's fine.

But it's different from saying that we are an enemy of the American people. That's a different thing.

And I know there are a lot of [Fox News] listeners out there who are going to reflexively take Donald Trump’s side on this.

[...] If it’s a president you like trying to talk about the press being the enemy of the people, then it’s going to be a president you don’t like saying the same thing.

And that’s very dangerous.

Wallace later received Reince Priebus, White House Chief Of Staff, as a guest on his show, and declared: "You don't get to tell us what to do, Reince. You don't get to tell us what to do any more than Barack Obama did."

https://www.indy100.com/article/donald-trump-fox-news-friends-chris-wallace-interview-fake-media-bias-florida-7589296?utm_source=indy&utm_medium=top5&utm_campaign=i100

[Niamh.]

Other notable reactions to Trump's declaration:

Senator John McCain: "The first thing dictators do is shut down the press."

Hashtag #NotTheEnemy started trending, honouring journalists, particularly those who died while reporting the news

And here are some other notable figures who called the press "the enemy of the people":

Military junta in Myanmar

Richard Nixon

State media in Russia

Mao Zedong

Joseph Stalin

Adolf Hitler

[Tom4784]

What Trump is doing is beyond dangerous, the freedom of the press must be preserved and leaders must always be held accountable for their actions.

Trump is ****ting upon everything the US was built on.

[the truth]

What Trump is doing is beyond dangerous, the freedom of the press must be preserved and leaders must always be held accountable for their actions.

Trump is ****ting upon everything the US was built on.

more fiction, the left is the one that has tried to close down free speech , thats why we ended up with an anti-politician like trump

[Niamh.]

more fiction, the left is the one that has tried to close down free speech , thats why we ended up with an anti-politician like trump

The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!

[the truth]

The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!

Theres always been huge swathes of fake news ,vast exaggeration, spin and lies. The media is simply more desperate than ever, with falling profits due to the competition from the internet and the pressure of 24 hour news

[Niamh.]

Theres always been huge swathes of fake news ,vast exaggeration, spin and lies. The media is simply more desperate than ever, with falling profits due to the competition from the internet and the pressure of 24 hour news

This thing called nuclear weapons, and other things. Like, lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things.

[the truth]

This thing called nuclear weapons, and other things. Like, lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things.

and what did the loony left do with their weapons? killed a million innocents

[Niamh.]

and what did the loony left do with their weapons? killed a million innocents

Uranium is bad

[arista]

FoxNewsHD being more balanced.

I noticed the other day every UK news used a clip
of presenter Shep who has a studio like star trek
But Shep is not Right Wing,

FoxNewsHD even has Tucker Carlson
a young libertarian
at the prime slot

[the truth]

Uranium is bad

new labour is bad

[Niamh.]

new labour is bad

I'm Irish, i don't follow your Politics too much but I'll take your word for that, this thread is about Trump and Fox news though

[DrunkerThanMoses]

http://f.tqn.com/y/politicalhumor/1/S/X/a/6/fox-mean-lol.jpg

[Alf]

Carry on with your hysterical outrage, if you like, I'm just gonna have a cup of tea.

[the truth]

I'm Irish, i don't follow your Politics too much but I'll take your word for that, this thread is about Trump and Fox news though

Northern or republic? Nice way to avoid the bigger issue and play dumb....You didnt notice the 1 million iraqis killed by new labour? youre mocking trump about uranium , maybe its time you addressed the more serious matter , not donald trumps limited use of adjectives, but the reason why so many despots and middle eastern nations are chasing uranium, because new labour blew up the middle east and these nations want uranium to defend themselves.

[Niamh.]

Northern or republic? Nice way to avoid the bigger issue and play dumb....You didnt notice the 1 million iraqis killed by new labour? youre mocking trump about uranium , maybe its time you addressed the more serious matter , not donald trumps limited use of adjectives, but the reason why so many despots and middle eastern nations are chasing uranium, because new labour blew up the middle east and these nations want uranium to defend themselves.

Republic

Why is me not following your politics equal to me playing dumb? Do you follow Irish Politics? :laugh:

[Smithy]

Northern or republic? Nice way to avoid the bigger issue and play dumb....You didnt notice the 1 million iraqis killed by new labour? youre mocking trump about uranium , maybe its time you addressed the more serious matter , not donald trumps limited use of adjectives, but the reason why so many despots and middle eastern nations are chasing uranium, because new labour blew up the middle east and these nations want uranium to defend themselves.

Probably by women too!!

[arista]

I'm Irish, i don't follow your Politics too much but I'll take your word for that, this thread is about Trump and Fox news though


How Nice

[arista]

Carry on with your hysterical outrage, if you like, I'm just gonna have a cup of tea.

try and skip any sugar

[the truth]

Republic

Why is me not following your politics equal to me playing dumb? Do you follow Irish Politics? :laugh:

Yes. Id also notice if ireland bombed a million innocent people to death...this is world politics and I notice you avoided my question. You have time for trivial mocking of trumps adjectives, simply to get cheap laughs and play to the anti trump leftist audience here, yet you have nothing to say about the actual use of bombs by the west and why there is such a drive for uranium. This really is trivial posting of the lowest order

[the truth]

How Nice

if he doesnt follow politics hes best not to comment

[Niamh.]

How Nice

I know you're an avid Enda supporter Arista :laugh:

http://www.independent.ie/migration_catalog/article25204395.ece/ALTERNATES/h342/enda_indo

[Withano]

Yes. Id also notice if ireland bombed a million innocent people to death...this is world politics and I notice you avoided my question. You have time for trivial mocking of trumps adjectives, simply to get cheap laughs and play to the anti trump leftist audience here, yet you have nothing to say about the actual use of bombs by the west and why there is such a drive for uranium. This really is trivial posting of the lowest order

Do you think it has anything to do with discussing whats topical. It isnt 1997 anymore, also its 2017. New Labour gets discussed less and Trump more so for this incredibly simple reason perhaps?

[Niamh.]

Yes. Id also notice if ireland bombed a million innocent people to death...this is world politics and I notice you avoided my question. You have time for trivial mocking of trumps adjectives, simply to get cheap laughs and play to the anti trump leftist audience here, yet you have nothing to say about the actual use of bombs by the west and why there is such a drive for uranium. This really is trivial posting of the lowest order

Why do you want me to comment on something that was in the news years ago? I'm commenting on current news like this Trump story. He's the gift that keeps on giving. Stay on topic or start your own thread sunshine

if he doesnt follow politics hes best not to comment

*she.............oop

[arista]

I know you're an avid Enda supporter Arista :laugh:

http://www.independent.ie/migration_catalog/article25204395.ece/ALTERNATES/h342/enda_indo


Yes a deal maker
Clever man.

[Withano]

if he doesnt follow politics hes best not to comment

But Trump is the president. Unfortunately he has to comment.

[Niamh.]

Yes a deal maker
Clever man.

He's going to be gone soon, not so clever after all

[MB.]

new labour is bad

And your inability to differentiate between New Labour and left wing politics as a whole (ignoring the fact that New Labour wasn't even remotely leftist) invalidates any argument you may have, as if the general reactionary, misogynist bull**** you consistently spout doesn't do that already

Anyway, back to Herr Trump...

[Alf]

Why are we at this point?

Could it possibly have anything to do with eight years of Obama? could that be a reason that people are so divided?

It's amazing how interested people are now, but just gave Obama a free pass to do what he wanted.

[Withano]

Why are we at this point?

Could it possibly have anything to do with eight years of Obama? could that be a reason that people are so divided?

It's amazing how interested people are now, but just gave Obama a free pass to do what he wanted.

I feel like people would have been very interested if Obama made up fake terrorist attacks in Sweden - probably more interested than we currently are right now after Trump doing it. I'm not sure if the comparison works well here.

[the truth]

And your inability to differentiate between New Labour and left wing politics as a whole (ignoring the fact that New Labour wasn't even remotely leftist) invalidates any argument you may have, as if the general reactionary, misogynist bull**** you consistently spout doesn't do that already

Anyway, back to Herr Trump...

Abusive post duly reported
so inferring trump is a nazi is ok? talk about double standards
new labour was labour and many of those involved are still there and they still havent righted the oh so many wrongs, starting with the insane 2004 GP doctors contract which allowed 94% of all doctors to avoid out of hours work. thus endagngering patient safety and putting infinitely more pressure on the junior doctors. so labour put this pressure on the junior doctors not the tories, labour failed to tear up the contract, labour failed to ensure the gp surgeries even met these contract agreements. labour oversaw uk hospitals becoming the dirtiest in europe, labour introduced 100s of stealth taxes hurting the poorer working classes, labour still in wales and scotland allow junior doctors to work up to 91 hours? thats still happenning, the tories in england at least put a cap on that of 72 hours.........labour keep pushing for the £60 billion train system that simply lines the pockets of the shareholders and bamlrupts the public purses. the loony left ignore all of these FACTS. Thats why corbyn and co are light years behind a very mediocre tory government. the tories are bad, labour and new labour are an absolute disgrace

[the truth]

Why are we at this point?

Could it possibly have anything to do with eight years of Obama? could that be a reason that people are so divided?

It's amazing how interested people are now, but just gave Obama a free pass to do what he wanted.

so true, he deported millions (millions more than bush or any other president) and used more drone strikes than any politician ever

[Niamh.]

Abusive post duly reported
so inferring trump is a nazi is ok? talk about double standards
new labour was labour and many of those involved are still there and they still havent righted the oh so many wrongs, starting with the insane 2004 GP doctors contract which allowed 94% of all doctors to avoid out of hours work. thus endagngering patient safety and putting infinitely more pressure on the junior doctors. so labour put this pressure on the junior doctors not the tories, labour failed to tear up the contract, labour failed to ensure the gp surgeries even met these contract agreements. labour oversaw uk hospitals becoming the dirtiest in europe, labour introduced 100s of stealth taxes hurting the poorer working classes, labour still in wales and scotland allow junior doctors to work up to 91 hours? thats still happenning, the tories in england at least put a cap on that of 72 hours.........labour keep pushing for the £60 billion train system that simply lines the pockets of the shareholders and bamlrupts the public purses. the loony left ignore all of these FACTS. Thats why corbyn and co are light years behind a very mediocre tory government. the tories are bad, labour and new labour are an absolute disgrace

Seriously if you want to talk about the Labour party start your own thread, thanks

[arista]

https://cfmedia.deadline.com/2017/02/shepard-smith.jpg

Shep Smith FoxNewsHD
he is not right wing
when he got his New Studio
The Daily Show
added Star Trek photos onto it,

[the truth]

Seriously if you want to talk about the Labour party start your own thread, thanks

youve admitted you know nothing about politics so please stop posting on subject matter you know nothing about

[MB.]

Oh the irony...

[Niamh.]

youve admitted you know nothing about politics so please stop posting on subject matter you know nothing about

Stop trying to derail the thread Truth any more off topic posts will be deleted

[Crimson Dynamo]

After a raging and bizarrely incoherent press conference,




I stopped reading after this lie




NEem you are falling for tiresome independent click bait



What is this..... Source?

[Niamh.]

After a raging and bizarrely incoherent press conference,




I stopped reading after this lie




NEem you are falling for tiresome independent click bait



What is this..... Source?
I watched the Press conference so I can confirm that its true :hee:

[MrTheMan]

Of course they'd turn against this tango'd douche, anyone with a brain and a pair of balls would.

for these reasons:
1) He speaks and acts exactly like some mafia don
2) He looks so much like some Asian guy who dipped his face into a bowl of dangerous acid.
3) He likes to do stupid things like build walls, ban muslims, repeal obamacare and mock disabled reporters.
4) He wants to make mexico pay for his stupid wall.
5) He doesn't even know what he is talking about 99% of the time.
6) He tweets such stupid things on his twitter.

Who the hell even elected this tough-guy??? own up... c'mon....

[Brillopad]

Of course they'd turn against this tango'd douche, anyone with a brain and a pair of balls would.

for these reasons:
1) He speaks and acts exactly like some mafia don
2) He looks so much like some Asian guy who dipped his face into a bowl of dangerous acid.
3) He likes to do stupid things like build walls, ban muslims, repeal obamacare and mock disabled reporters.
4) He wants to make mexico pay for his stupid wall.
5) He doesn't even know what he is talking about 99% of the time.
6) He tweets such stupid things on his twitter.

Who the hell even elected this tough-guy??? own up... c'mon....

Clearly quite a few. Would you have preferred Clinton?

[MrTheMan]

Clearly quite a few. Would you have preferred Clinton?

Yes, I'd rather have her than this tangoed toughguy. At least she didn't want to build ****ty walls or ban Muslims. Walls and Muslim bans are NOT ways to "Make America Great Again". Another good thing about Mrs. Clinton is that she didn't even mock any disabled reporters and that comment about Trump supporters being "a basket of deplorables" was just glorious and iconic.

[Northern Monkey]

He's having a mare with these statements.Sweden was better though

[Brillopad]

Yes, I'd rather have her than this tangoed toughguy. At least she didn't want to build ****ty walls or ban Muslims. Walls and Muslim bans are NOT ways to "Make America Great Again". Another good thing about Mrs. Clinton is that she didn't even mock any disabled reporters and that comment about Trump supporters being "a basket of deplorables" was just glorious and iconic.

He's more honest than her - definitely the lesser of the two evils in my eyes. He says it, she thinks it. She looks solely after number one.

[MrTheMan]

He's more honest than her - definitely the lesser of the two evils in my eyes. He says it, she thinks it. She looks solely after number one.

Anyone would be a better candidate than this loon, even I would. I feel sorry for those Americans that DIDN'T vote for him as they have to put up with his wall-building, muslim-banning, obamacare-repealing, disabled-reporter-mocking attitude for 4-8 years. If I was an American, I'd have voted clinton over trump any day.

[the truth]

Yes, I'd rather have her than this tangoed toughguy. At least she didn't want to build ****ty walls or ban Muslims. Walls and Muslim bans are NOT ways to "Make America Great Again". Another good thing about Mrs. Clinton is that she didn't even mock any disabled reporters and that comment about Trump supporters being "a basket of deplorables" was just glorious and iconic.

she just helped murder a million people

[Tom4784]

He's more honest than her - definitely the lesser of the two evils in my eyes. He says it, she thinks it. She looks solely after number one.

Yes, a dangerous and incompetent idiot that will gladly trample over civil liberties of anyone that disagrees with him is certainly better than a woman who is qualified for the position and is smart enough to think before she speaks and would have likely built on what Obama started.

Flawless logic there, Wombai.

[the truth]

Yes, a dangerous and incompetent idiot that will gladly trample over civil liberties of anyone that disagrees with him is certainly better than a woman who is qualified for the position and is smart enough to think before she speaks and would have likely built on what Obama started.

Flawless logic there, Wombai.

a woman who was a massive part in murdering 1 million innocent people, nice