Indecent Proposal

[lily.]

I don't know how many of you have seen the movie "Indecent Proposal", but if you haven't then you can google it.. :laugh:

Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to debate the subject, and ask the question...

Would you do it?

[mansi]

I would never do something of that sort for money

[Sunny_01]

Who knows what they would do with an offer like that until they are faced with it. £1,000,000 is a huge amount of money and would change your life forever if you spent wisely.

I would never say never to something like this! and lets face it Redford is hot :banana:

[Bells]

I don't think I would to be honest. Not if I was happily married and everything was going well, why give that all up?

[GiRTh]

Who else would start this thread?

I think it's one of the worst films of all time but the subject is quite an interesting one. It's interesting that Sunny may consider it if it was Robert Redford. Most women would do him for a bag of chips and bus fare home. What if it wasn't him? What if it was some fat smelly redneck? How would you feel now Sunny?

If I was a woman I'd do it. No questions asked. Even with an obnoxious pig.

[~Kizwiz~]

Like Sunny said, I would never say never, it would be a discision based on how much, who with, whats the rules and whether or not my man and I felt comfortable with the offer

[Mrluvaluva]

I wouldn't do it. Say it was my partner who did it, I couldn't cope. It would kill me. If you are in a relationship, it is special, between the two of you. It would have to end, as the thought of it would never go away. I would have to leave, and take the money with me of course.

[GiRTh]

We don't seem to have Linda's thought on this topic. Care to join us Lind?

[Sunny_01]

Hmm interesting GiRTH. I have to say even if it was a fat smelly redneck with spots et al I cant say I would rule it out for that amount of money, lets face it, it's only sex and it would only be once! who knows though I might develop a shy streak and even some morals if actually faced with the prospect :whistle:

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by GiRTh
We don't seem to have Linda's thought on this topic. Care to join us Lind?


Linda would do it for a bag of crisps. lol

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by GiRTh

If I was a woman I'd do it. No questions asked. Even with an obnoxious pig.


As a man though, would you be able to perform, say with, err........Dot Cotton?

[Bells]

Linda started this topic because it stemmed from the 'At what price would you sell out for' quiz. :hugesmile:

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by MrLuvaLuva

As a man though, would you be able to perform, say with, err........Dot Cotton? Easy. I've had far worse.

[Mrluvaluva]

Urghh!!

[GiRTh]

For real. There was a 52 year old who had a lingerie stall on the market. My mates still take the p*ss about it.

I was 22 at the time, by the way.

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by GiRTh
For real. There was a 52 year old who had a lingerie stall on the market. My mates still take the p*ss about it.

I was 22 at the time, by the way.

It would be rude of them not to though wouldnt it!!

Seriously though I still think I would go for it irrespective of how they look, its only once and for a huge life change I think it would be worth grinning and bearing it :devil:

[GiRTh]

Indeed. I agree with Sunny. It's a life changing sum of money.

Baz would you like to go into details regarding your feelings on the matter.

[Mrluvaluva]

Some things are more important than money. You can't buy happiness.

[GiRTh]

Is that all you've got to say? Expand on your position. What if it was you're wife and you were struggling for money? Tell us Baz. Share with the group. We're all friends here.

[Mrluvaluva]

What do you want? A bloody essay? Speaking personally, I would not want her to do it. I would be afraid it would ruin things. It would always be there, in the back of your head. Everybody thinks differently. Of course you cannot say how it would affect you until it actually happens. But I wouldn't wanna take the risk. Peoples views on love are different.

[GiRTh]

Aaaaaah *strings*

[Mrluvaluva]

lol. I don't think you are all you make out to be.

[GiRTh]

How so?

[Mrluvaluva]

Like "No way would it bother me". I think if you were put into a situation like that, you would give it a hell of a lot more thought.

[GiRTh]

No way. If I was hard up the only factor would be if she was prepared to do it. If she wasn't I'd not pressure her. If she was? Jobs a good 'un. I'M RICH.:hello::dance2::cheer2:

[Mrluvaluva]

If you can say it would not bother you for sure, then fine. Some people can have polygamous relationships, and not bad an eyelid. Others become so jealous, it can ruin their lives. Each to their own. I suppose it depends on what you can handle. But I still say, you don't know if you can handle it until it happens.

[lily.]

I would not do it. I realised after I ticked the box in the other thread that I was speaking "hypothetically" and had I been completely honest, I wouldn't have ticked it.

Here's why.... I think that if it were my man having sex with another woman for us to get the money, then I would constantly be wondering if he were comparing me to her when we were on the job and wondering if he preferred her. I'm not an especially jealous person, and yet this is how it would make me feel.

My husband is a lot more jealous than I am, and therefore, I know that it would destroy him in much the same way as it did for David (the character in the film). It would destroy the trust and the bond we have built up over the last 14 years.

We are skint. And, we have a sh!tload of unpaid debt. The money would change our lives tremendously. But at what cost?

I can say "never" in this case because we were faced with an indecent offer a few years back from a couple we know, and although it didn't involve money, it did involve swinging. We didn't go for that, for much the same reason. I don't judge others who choose that lifestyle, but it's not for me.

Oh, and in response to some of the witty remarks on here... (you know who you are!)... I'd do Robert Redford for free! No packet of crisps required. :laugh:

[GiRTh]

Whatever:rolleyes:

Remember I said the film was an awful film. The main reason for that was because he took it far worse that she did. it destroyed his life. What does that say? Is it that it's harder to be a pimp that a prostitute. I hate that film.

Also, the film only works because it's Redford what if the millionaire had been some fat obnoxious pig and the couple had been black or Latino. The film suddenly has a whole different feel.

I've been completely hard up and though Linda's stance is admirable. I'm not sure I believe it. I prefer the old immoral Linda to the new moral version.

[Bells]

LOL... I've never thought of Linda as 'immoral'... naughty/dirty maybe, :rolleyes:...but without forgetting her morals. :wink:

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by MrLuvaLuva
Originally posted by GiRTh

If I was a woman I'd do it. No questions asked. Even with an obnoxious pig.


As a man though, would you be able to perform, say with, err........Dot Cotton?

For a million - no problem.

I'me perfectly capable of summoning up the most perverse fantasy involving Michelle Pfeiffer and mentally mix it with the best scenes I've ever seen from porn, and my own pasts "greatest nights" to get it up for long enough with a total pig to bag a million.

You can call me anything you like - I'd be really concerned about it while cruising up the Pacific Coast Highway in my new Aston Martin.


:devil:

[lily.]

Now, Space Bandit, I don't think you are a bad person to do that.

If I were single, then I would shag a complete minger for a million. The act itself isn't my dilemma, it's the fact that I'm committed to my man.

As for you G... and I quote: "I prefer the old immoral Linda to the new moral version." ... I was always moral. We just never discussed anything serious before. :wink: And, I have the ability to separate fantasy from reality. Internet=fantasy. My life/marriage/family=reality.

So the "immoral Linda" is merely a fantasy really. :thumbs:

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Stropz


If I were single, then I would s**g a complete minger for a million. The act itself isn't my dilemma, it's the fact that I'm committed to my man.




But in the film they were married, were they not? I thought we were replying in this context/situation.

[lily.]

Originally posted by MrLuvaLuva
Originally posted by Stropz


If I were single, then I would s**g a complete minger for a million. The act itself isn't my dilemma, it's the fact that I'm committed to my man.





But in the film they were married, were they not? I thought we were replying in this context/situation.

Yes, we were, but Space Bandit gave it a different slant didn't he?

and, I would like to address this:
Originally posted by GiRTh
Also, the film only works because it's Redford what if the millionaire had been some fat obnoxious pig and the couple had been black or Latino. The film suddenly has a whole different feel.


I don't see how the film would have been different with black or latino people in it. You do have a point regarding the Robert Redford thing. He is undoubtedly hot, and that helps.

But, if you had J-Lo (hot latino woman) & Jamie Foxx (hot black man) being propositioned by Denzel Washington (ROAR! - need I say more).. then it would still have worked.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Stropz

Yes, we were, but Space Bandit gave it a different slant didn't he?




Not allowed. I could say I'll take a million for a lustful orgy with 5 women, a donkey, and a tub of margerine. Hardly the same is it?

[lily.]

Start a thread then... In fact.. I will do one.. watch this space..

[Mrluvaluva]

here we go ladies & gents...............................

[lily.]

HERE (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=57176) it is!

[GiRTh]

If it was hot black couple living in the projects, played by unknown actros. and filthy obnoxious redneck the film would have been totally different. How do tyou not see it.

Let me get this straight. The only thing stopping Linda is her husband. Ok makes sense.

[lily.]

Cuz I don't look at black/white/latino any differently. I look at "hot" and "not" differently.

[GiRTh]

It's not about that its a bout a nasty man taking advantage of a situation. The fact that Redford is hot and a nice bloke in the film means that it's a bit too twee for me.

[lily.]

Right, then ur black/latino argument is out the window isn't it? It wouldn't matter if the Redford character was black/white/latino either. The fact is that they made him "charming" instead of sleazy.

There's a reason for this. People left the cinemas talking about it. If they had some nice couple and some sleazebag then nobody would talk about it. It would be all about the money. Putting in the sex-factor that is Redford made people consider whether they would do it or not, cuz lets face it, sex with Redford isn't guna be nasty.

[GiRTh]

That's my whole point. It's not about race but it would have looked worse if the couple were believably poor (ie. ethnic) and it had been a nastier business man. Adrian Lyne makes these films and always makes them look twee. He also always does them from the male point of view. That why Harrelsons character suffers much more than Demi Moores. In fact Demi's character even looks better after the one night stand . Adrian Lyne also did 9 1/2 weeks and Fatal Attractions. This film is like Pretty Woman it can't be taken seriously. A total dog.

[lily.]

Originally posted by GiRTh
That's my whole point. It's not about race but it would have looked worse if the couple were believably poor (ie. ethnic) and it had been a nastier business man. Adrian Lyne makes these films and always makes them look twee. He also always does them form the male point of view. That why Harrelsons character suffers much more than Demi Moores. In fact Demi's character even looks better after the one night stand . Adrian Lyne also did 9 1/2 weeks and Fatal Attractions. This film is like Pretty Woman it can't be taken seriously. A total dog.

Ok, so you are saying that a white couple can't be "believably poor"? I'm white and poor. I don't wear your argument there at all G.

I do agree with your "nastier business man" part though. They made Redford "nice". But, like I say, it adds something to the equation. It made David more likely to think that Diana would fall for him. He wouldn't have been so torn up with jealousy had he known that he was more attractive than the rich guy. So, I think it was a good way to play it.

And, it's not supposed to be "taken seriously". It's a film. It's thought provoking, and you have to admit it has inspired many discussions between friends and couples.

[lily.]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Let me get this straight. The only thing stopping Linda is her husband. Ok makes sense.

Ok, I just noticed this part. I assume you added it as an afterthought.

What do you mean by "makes sense"? Was that sarcasm muh dear? :wink:

[GiRTh]

Baloney. You answer your first argument with you last argument.

Remember this film was made in America. A poor white family is not so believable as a poor ethnic family. Jeeez.

Also, I've been to the bottom too and I don't ever want to go there again. So stop claiming you're poor.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Stropz

Ok, I just noticed this part. I assume you added it as an afterthought.

What do you mean by "makes sense"? Was that sarcasm muh dear? :wink: Not at all.:whistle: What's up with you?

[lily.]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Baloney. You answer your first argument with you last argument.

Remember this film was made in America. A poor white family is not so believable as a poor ethnic family. Jeeez.

Also, I've been to the bottom too and I don't ever want to go there again. So stop claiming you're poor.

I'm as poor as Diana and David are supposed to be in the film.

[lily.]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by Stropz

Ok, I just noticed this part. I assume you added it as an afterthought.

What do you mean by "makes sense"? Was that sarcasm muh dear? :wink: Not at all.:whistle: What's up with you?

Ya lying sack o chit!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Stropz
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by Stropz

Ok, I just noticed this part. I assume you added it as an afterthought.

What do you mean by "makes sense"? Was that sarcasm muh dear? :wink: Not at all.:whistle: What's up with you?

you lying sack o chit! Charmin'

[lily.]

Originally posted by GiRTh
... You answer your first argument with you last argument.


What do you mean by that?

[GiRTh]

You ask me if I think a white couple can be believably poor. Of course they can be but this is a Hollywood film. A point you state in the third parragraph. So you answer your first point in your third paragraph

[lily.]

Ahhh, ok, I see what you mean now.. My bad.. :thumbs:

[GiRTh]

You.

[lily.]

What?

[lily.]

Ok, I have some new information which leads me to change my original statement.

You see, the last time my other half and I discussed this subject was quite a few years ago. Now, this thread (and copious amounts of harrassment from G) prompted me to have that discussion again with him and to bring up his previous point of view. It turns out that he is now of the opinion that if everyone is consenting and it's all discussed, that it could work. He says that you have to make the decision then "not let it destroy you" after it's done.

After the last discussion we had about this, I was of the opinion that he would turn into "David" in the film and basically become this jealous ball of rage, but now he says that he's more secure and cuz he's older he would be able to handle it.

So, to sum up, I'm guna sh*g Robert Redford for a mil. If they chuck in Woody Harrelson, I'll do it for half a mil.. and If Wentworth Miller is even in the same room then it's free. :thumbs:

[Mrluvaluva]

I said before- some people can handle it, and some people can't. Depends on your personality and how secure you feel. Some people tho may think they can handle it, but in reality they can't. I mentioned the polygamy thing before for example. Some people can have an open relationship and be quite happy with that. Some people have an open relationship, and it all goes tits up because one, or both of them, get jealous. You don't know how you'd feel until it actually happens. What works for some people, doesn't for others. U get me?

[lily.]

I do get you, because at one point in our original discussion my man said he could handle it, but when I pressed him on the issue with hypothetical scenarios, he admitted that maybe he couldn't. Which just goes to show that we don't really know how we will feel until the deed is done, by which time it's too late to "undo" it.

This was where my fear came from. I would have been afraid to go ahead just in case things changed after the fact. My relationship means more to me than money, and I wouldn't like to gamble my marriage on a sum of money. However, if I could be assured that he wasn't going to fall apart after it was done, then obviously it would change my stance and I would consider it.

[Mrluvaluva]

But as you say. Once the deed is done....... Would you really risk it all?

[lily.]

I might let him do it. Because I would be able to know 100% whether I could or couldn't handle it.

But, I don't know that I would be prepared to let him let me do it (if that makes sense) because I couldn't be sure that he really was ok with it and that his judgement wasn't being clouded by the money.

[Mrluvaluva]

Ball cocks! You cannot say 100%

[lily.]

Ok, but I could be more certain how I would feel than how he would feel, couldn't I?

[Mrluvaluva]

Yes cause you know your own mind better than anyone elses. No matter how close you are.

[lily.]

So, after all this debate, I still can't really answer 100% yes or 100% no.

[Mrluvaluva]

Nobody can.

[lily.]

Well, unless someone is reading this, has a spare mil to give away, and fancies sh@gging one of us. :thumbs:

[Sunny_01]

and if anyone is throwing away a million quid for a romp then stick me at the top of the list, I have talents that could not be discussed here!!!:tongue:

[Princess]

I don't know because I can't imagine what impact that money would have or have ever been in a proper relationship! If I was older and married and happy I don't say I couldas I have pretty high love expectations,hopless romantic and all that but it really would depend on if I needed money or who it was etc.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by GiRTh
If it was hot black couple living in the projects, played by unknown actros. and filthy obnoxious redneck the film would have been totally different. How do tyou not see it.


I have to agree with this. Robert Redford is a real hottie, and plays a nice guy in the movie (which I do agree is trash by the way). Imagine if it was a real minger, who was a complete t**t who had offered the money - that would have been a much more interesting movie altogether. And would the husband have been so jealous if it had been a really horrible chap she had slept with? Or would he have got over it quicker?

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by GiRTh
If it was hot black couple living in the projects, played by unknown actros. and filthy obnoxious redneck the film would have been totally different. How do tyou not see it.


I have to agree with this. Robert Redford is a real hottie, and plays a nice guy in the movie (which I do agree is trash by the way). Imagine if it was a real minger, who was a complete t**t who had offered the money - that would have been a much more interesting movie altogether. And would the husband have been so jealous if it had been a really horrible chap she had slept with? Or would he have got over it quicker?

Of course it would be different. That would change the perception of the movie.

[Sunny_01]

I suppose if he was a right horror who had the personality of the dustbin then it would make things even easier to go for it! I would do it to spite him and of course to reap the rewards!

[Mrluvaluva]

Of course it would. If the Robert Redford character was an ugly pig, then this would have put a totally different slant on things. The jealousy from the husband might never happen. The wife could never possibly have feelings for him. It would not have raised so many issues.

[GiRTh]

So I'm right again huh. Way to go Linda.

And also right about the film dressing up the issues with hot actors.

I hate being right all the time.:dance2:

[lily.]

No, you are not right. So, you can quit gloating G.

[GiRTh]

Moi gloat?:dance2:

[lily.]

Yeah, don't you have work to do. Remember that concept? Work? :thumbs:

[GiRTh]

True. But the lovely Rachel has gone for her lunch.:sad:

[lily.]

Hmms... I'm outta the loop. Sort it out G.

anyway, I'm off.. stuff to do etc.

Lata...x

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by MrLuvaLuva
Nobody can.

I can - yes I would
and so would Mrs Bandit

One night - a million quid - in the bank, a high interest account and cashing in the interest monthly, and the two of you are pretty much sorted for life.

All for allowing the other half to shag someone.

Mrs bandit and I have a free list, jokey thing but lots of people have them

thats the list of people that given the opportunity we could sleep with with no combacks or grief from the other as its one night only.

Pretty short lists,
Mrs Bandit has Antonio Banderas, Heath ledger and Guy pearce

I have Michelle Pfeiffer, Cameron Diaz and Michelle Pfeiffer [just of the off chance the impossible happens I get two goes - I've had jury duty twice so you never know !! :joker: ]


So for a million quid could Mrs bandit sleep with someone - yes

and for a million quid if he wanted to sleep with me :puzzled::shocked:, put it this way, I'm biting pillow but I'm banking that cash

[lily.]

haha....re: the pillow biting - nice to see you are open to trying new things then Mr Bandit. :thumbs:

And, the list.. that's a "friends" thing, and most everyone has one of those. I don't have a full list, but David Beckham has been one of mine and Kylie Minogue one of his for a lot of years!

Come to think of it, I really need to add another 2, just in case. :wink:

Also, kudos on the Michelle Pfieffer twice thing. That really made me chuckle. :laugh:

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by Stropz
haha....re: the pillow biting - nice to see you are open to trying new things then Mr Bandit. :thumbs:


for the million quid, no problemo -

I'll make the guy breakfast before we go our seperate ways the next morning. I'm a considerate kinda guy :thumbs:

Then its off to the bank to cash my bankers draft - [no cheques for a piece of this booty :joker: - you can't cancel a bankers draft]

And when I can sit down properly - its the high life at Chez Bandit - til we get the new Chez Bandit, somewhere warm.

:cheer:

[lily.]

Ah.. I see you have thought this through quite thoroughly :thumbs:

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by Stropz
Ah.. I see you have thought this through quite thoroughly :thumbs:

Yes,

You never know when an eccentric billioniare will appear here in the wilds of north yorkshire, seek me out and offer me million quid for a night of botty sex and playing the pink oboe.

I like to be prepared for all eventualities. Saves time in the cash getting if I don't have to stop off at Boots for some extra vaseline and savlon

Likewise Mrs Bandit is still waiting on Antonio Banderas to come romping across the moors so she can cash in one of her list of freebies.

We live in perpetual wonderment at the possibilities :thumbs2::laugh:


:thumbs:

[Vicky.]

Yes I would do it. Its just sex and its a huge sum of money. I wouldn't mind if Gav did it either, would probably encourage him to :laugh: I'm not a jealous person at all and I would get over it quickly while we were in florida on a beach with the kids

[lily.]

Loving your style Vicky lol

[the truth]

would i suck a grannies beans for a few hours for a zillion bucks?

[Ammi]

I don't know how many of you have seen the movie "Indecent Proposal", but if you haven't then you can google it.. :laugh:

Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to debate the subject, and ask the question...

Would you do it?

...I remember watching the movie quite a long time ago and having a discussion with friends about it then...I honestly don't think I would tbh..and I would probably do a lot more unpleasant things, like eating something disgusting or whatever..and especially if it was Robert Redford, who isn't too shabby at all...if it was 3 million/4 million/5 million etc..what would be the point of making a vow to someone...'for richer/poorer etc...'..if there was a price tag on it...to me it would be like saying, if this person you loved had nothing at all, would you still love them...well, I don't know if that's a good analogy, but no, there would be no 'price tag' that would be persuasive to me...if my partner wanted me to do it..?..hmmm, I guess that I'd have to seriously think about why he would feel like that but I still wouldn't do it....


...EDIT:..it's also because it's a vow that I would be breaking as well as all of the other emotional reasons etc..it's a breaking of your word/bond to the person that you love most in the world..it's something that I personally feel strongly about and maybe a bit 'old fashioned' but we believe in what we believe in...maybe I would consider eating a live snake or something because I never promised not to, well I don't know if I actually would lol...but I could never spend/enjoy one penny of that money if I felt I had broken a promise to the person I love for money...I would also never harm another person/animal etc...sorry, over-thinking lol...

[Nemo123]

I probably wouldn't be able to control my gag reflux if it was Dot Cotton, for example, but if it was a fanciable old dear I'd jump at it! Be like winning the Lotto.

[smeagol]

only a fool would say no to that proposal. the film is a bit stupid. its only sex. and 1 million hello

id happily get banged by a gang of orcs for 1 million lol

[Natalie.]

I don't think I could do it, the person I'm with at the moment would let me but I couldn't take that risk and I wouldn't want that guilt. I feel guilty over the smallest things already :laugh:

I'd do it if I was single

[lily.]

Ammi... you think the same way as me.. :)

[Tom4784]

I'd do it, one night of meaningless sex to potentially set up you and your family for life? Sign me up.

[Livia]

If I needed the cash I'd do it. It's just sex, it isn't love... It'd have to be cash up front, no kissing, nothing freaky, no strings and no phone calls after.

[arista]

If I needed the cash I'd do it. It's just sex, it isn't love... It'd have to be cash up front, no kissing, nothing freaky, no strings and no phone calls after.


just the In and Out then

[Z]

Hmm, probably not.

[Toy Soldier]

Frankly, for a million quid I'd get butt****ed by another guy and force my missus to watch clockwork orange style. I'm sure we'd both get over it in our dream house :D.

[Z]

I know that a million pounds is a lot of money but I just don't think I could take that money, knowing how I'd earned it.

[Ammi]

Hmm, probably not.

I know that a million pounds is a lot of money but I just don't think I could take that money, knowing how I'd earned it.


..I find it quite interesting in that some lottery winners who have won that type of amount can spend it quite quickly and it doesn't have a life changing effect on them...long term, I guess that I think that when you have something, then it no longer has the same 'value' as when you don't have it/long for it...?...because you're perspective changes completely and from that perspective of then having the million pounds, your focus could quite easily become on how you got it/what you did etc...of course I'm coming from a perspective of being totally committed to someone...maybe my instincts and reply would have been totally different if I wasn't..who knows because it's not something I ever considered when I wasn't committed...

[Z]

Seems like most people could just do it without thinking twice about it but personally I'd never be able to not think about how I'd earned the money, it'd make me feel a bit worthless and because I'm the kind of person who would want to use the money for the long term, it's not like I could quickly forget about it...

[Lee.]

We're talking a million pounds here? Damn right I would!

[Vicky.]

Lets be honest, most people do it fro a lot less. A few drinks and a kebab or something. Its really not much different :laugh:

I guess it changes things when you have a partner. But I would imagine most couples could get past it, given you would be set for life afterwards

[arista]

Seems like most people could just do it without thinking twice about it but personally I'd never be able to not think about how I'd earned the money, it'd make me feel a bit worthless and because I'm the kind of person who would want to use the money for the long term, it's not like I could quickly forget about it...


Zee
you would be bent over
you may even enjoy it



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