Caitlyn Jenner puts POTUS on blast regarding LGBTQ community

[reece(:]

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Drag him:clap1:

[Brother Leon]

http://www.advocate.com/election/2016/6/29/caitlyn-jenner-donald-trump-champion-women-and-lgbt-people

Oops.

[Tom4784]

Come thru Caitlyn.

[Crimson Dynamo]

there is already a thread on this, its a serious debate thread and not some z list celeb tweet, please see threads already posted in SD

Mods can we merge this or move to chat and games

[Black Dagger]

Don't try and censor people. We had multiple threads on Sweden as well x

[reece(:]

Not LT complaining just when it's a topic that doesn't suit him! Didn't you say there shouldn't be a censor upon the quantity of Trump threads?

[VanessaFeltz.]

Didnt that bitch said she doesnt support same sex marriage?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not LT complaining just when it's a topic that doesn't suit him! Didn't you say there shouldn't be a censor upon the quantity of Trump threads?

there is a proper debate thread already made with excellent posts made by people like mod Vicky

hopefully this will be merged to keep the integrity of SD

[Black Dagger]

"integrity"

hahahahahaha.

[Vicky.]

Didnt that bitch said she doesnt support same sex marriage?

Yup. Homophobic...

Anyway, I find it rather creepy how this message starts about 'trans kids'. Infact a hell of a lot of 'late transitioners' seem a little obsessed with 'trans kids'. The push for giving prepubescent children cancer drugs as puberty blockers is just crazy and wrong. The kids' parents are told the drugs are harmless and completely reversible which is a LIE. We do not know the effects of long term hormone use yet (until the recent young transitioners grow up and start feeling the effects, though I do know long term testosterone makes one susceptible to heart attacks), but we do know the effects of puberty blockers.

http://californiahealthline.org/news/women-fear-drug-they-used-to-halt-puberty-led-to-health-problems/

One 'harmless' puberty blocking drug^

I suspect in 10/20 years we will have hoards of children suing their parents and the medical staff involved in their 'treatment'


Besides this, I can't take Jenner seriously tbh, given she reckons the hardest part of being a woman is chosing what clothes to wear and also retains her membership to her all male golf club...so retaining the privileges of being a male.

Good luck to her though I guess. This video will get her some publicity. I actually thought her and trump were pretty close, but I guess he can't make laws based on one friend...

[Vicky.]

I don't think this needs merged. there are multiple threads on many topic. there are about 200 on little things Trump has said or done (thanks Niamh :laugh: )

Another mod may disagree though. But for now, this stays put.

Also its hardly a subject for chat and games?! :umm2:

[Kizzy]

Transgender republican, well there's an oxymoron.

[Braden]

She has every need to be worried for her rights, but I can't help but feel disdain towards Caitlyn for using her celebrity status/platform to endorse Republican motives. There is an endless number of vulnerable LGBTQ+ individuals out there, and their safety is in jeopardy far more than hers. She has every right to an opinion, but even with politics aside, I don't want to hear what she has say now.

To put Caitliyn and her "representation" of the LGBT community in perspective:

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[Kizzy]

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

[Jamie89]

She has every need to be worried for her rights, but I can't help but feel disdain towards Caitlyn for using her celebrity status/platform to endorse Republican motives. There is an endless number of vulnerable LGBTQ+ individuals out there, and their safety is in jeopardy far more than hers. She has every right to an opinion, but even with politics aside, I don't want to hear what she has say now.

To put Caitliyn and her "representation" of the LGBT community in perspective:

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Yeah I'm in two minds about her, I don't actually think she's the best role model for trans people but then again they really don't have many role models out there so any support is still beneficial I suppose.

I don't think this needs merged. there are multiple threads on many topic. there are about 200 on little things Trump has said or done (thanks Niamh :laugh: )

Another mod may disagree though. But for now, this stays put.

Also its hardly a subject for chat and games?! :umm2:

*Remembers the multiple Meryl Streep thread LT made in SD after her Golden Globes speech* :laugh:

[Braden]

Yeah I'm in two minds about her, I don't actually think she's the best role model for trans people but then again they really don't have many role models out there so any support is still beneficial I supose

I personally think there are a lot more role models for trans people than presumed. It's just that none are as prevalent in the media as Caitlin.

[lewis111]

It only took thousands on people demanding something out of her on social media for months for her to finally speak out

She doesn't deserve any praise it all feels so forced and if she really cared about trans rights she would'nt have voted that way she did

[Northern Monkey]

What's a 'Q+'?

[Vicky.]

What's a 'Q+'?

Queer. You know, the word used to insult gay people for as far back as I can remember...apparently it is appropriate to tag that slur on the end of LGBT these days. Something else a few of my gay mates are up in arms about :umm2:

[Northern Monkey]

Queer. You know, the word used to insult gay people for as far back as I can remember...apparently it is appropriate to tag that slur on the end of LGBT these days. Something else a few of my gay mates are up in arms about :umm2:

But 'G' is already in there so why add the 'Q'? and the '+'?

[Kizzy]

Isn't it a word they are 'reclaiming' like the 'N' word?... I agree with your mates, just let the slurs die. :/

[reece(:]

What's a 'Q+'?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderqueer

[Jamie89]

I like the 'Q' :hee: I get why older gays might have a problem with it but I don't consider it a slur personally or wouldn't really be taken aback if someone called me queer, any more than if someone called me gay

[Vicky.]

But 'G' is already in there so why add the 'Q'? and the '+'?

Queer basically means you do not conform to gender stereotypes. You could be a bit feminine but have masculine interests, etc and this makes you queer(honestly, I think this covers 99.9% of the population...I find it hard to believe anyone is 'pure' feminine or 'pure' masculine). Its not used to describe gay people anymore, in this context anyway

To my understanding anyway. Technically, I am 'queer' as I think all gender stuff is absolute bollocks.

I believe the full alphabet soup is LGBTQI+

[Braden]

You'd be wrong actually, Vicky.

Technically it's LGBTTQQIAAP+

[Vicky.]

You'd be wrong actually, Vicky.

Technically it's LGBTTQQIAAP+

Oh dear :laugh:

Lesbian Gay Bi Trans Trendy Queer Quirky Intersex Asexual Asshole Person?

[Braden]

Oh dear :laugh:

Lesbian Gay Bi Trans Trendy Queer Quirky Intersex Asexual Asshole Person?

(lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, transsexual, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, ally, pansexual)

Then you can add a + or a 2 just in case something isn't covered :p

[Vicky.]

Ally?

[MB.]

Ally?

Yup, Ally McBeal fans count as well nowadays

[Braden]

Ally?

Essentially means straight people who support the community.

[Denver]

(lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, transsexual, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, ally, pansexual)

Then you can add a + or a 2 just in case something isn't covered :p

They finally give me recognition

[Vicky.]

Essentially means straight people who support the community.

I thought that was what it meant...don't see why they should be included though given they won't actually suffer any discrimination themselves :umm2:

[Jamie89]

They finally give me recognition

(After Ally McBeal but well done anyway :clap2: )

[Denver]

(After Ally McBeal but well done anyway :clap2: )

I been fighing this fight for over 20 years

[Braden]

They finally give me recognition

Get that recognition, babe :clap1:

I thought that was what it meant...don't see why they should be included though given they won't actually suffer any discrimination themselves :umm2:

Yeah, I get what you mean. It depends how you view it though. I imagine some straight people are subject to abuse for championing the gay community, it just depends on how much of an ally you are.

It's a nice term to include as well. The miners were allies to the gay community during the 1980's, for example.

[Northern Monkey]

Yeah i think there may have to be a point where enough is enough with the adding more and more letters.It's already too complex for my tiny mind.

[Vicky.]

Yeah i think there may have to be a point where enough is enough with the adding more and more letters.It's already too complex for my tiny mind.

Should add the 71 genders on too...as it seems the aim is to have as many random letters as possible :laugh:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/10930654/Facebooks-71-gender-options-come-to-UK-users.html

[Northern Monkey]

Should add the 71 genders on too...as it seems the aim is to have as many random letters as possible :laugh:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/10930654/Facebooks-71-gender-options-come-to-UK-users.html
"allow future generation of kids to become truly comfortable in their own skins."

Or just confuse the feck out of everyone.

71 genders.I don't even think i know what a gender is anymore.I mean 'Two Spirit' what is that?

[Jack_]

Queer. You know, the word used to insult gay people for as far back as I can remember...apparently it is appropriate to tag that slur on the end of LGBT these days. Something else a few of my gay mates are up in arms about :umm2:

To be fair, the reclamation of the word 'queer' dates as far back as the emergence of queer theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_theory) in the 90s. I think it's a good umbrella term personally, but see the easiest acronym to encompass all of the new terms as LGBT+

[VanessaFeltz.]

Honestly some people are seriously trying to get attention by creating stupid terms.

"Schrodigender– A gender which you can both feel and not feel."
seriously what the **** is this?

This really annoys me because there are lots of LGBT people needing help and that are everyday people (which are actually the silent majority of the lgbt community) not being able to understand themselves because the community&media always show the most absurd ways of the community. Doing so you are not embracing the differences and diversity, you are actually destroying it

If we look at the picture shown to us we see sex hungry people, who love having group sex EVERYWHERE they can, they wear abnormal amount of makeup and scream for "straight" guys or have 20 piercings on their face identifying themselves as

Scorpigender– A gender that is a mystery, and very difficult to understand. lots of labels vaguely fit it, but almost none can fully describe it.

Do we have these people in the world? Yes regardless of gay or straight. Is it the majority of the community? No. So we need to show more of the moderate everyday people as big faces of the community. This may not sound that important to you guys here but there are struggling people in much less fortunate countries who cannot understand what is going on with them because when they are young and look at the word "gay" or "transgender" they see extreme ways of acting and they feel like they have to make a choice between being extreme or "normal" (!) and these people deny their identifications and live a lie for rest of their lives.

There are transgender people who are struggling a lot. But there are not salugender or felisgender people.
https://ageo********lords.com/list-of-all-tumblr-genders-so-far/

[Kizzy]

To be fair, the reclamation of the word 'queer' dates as far back as the emergence of queer theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_theory) in the 90s. I think it's a good umbrella term personally, but see the easiest acronym to encompass all of the new terms as LGBT+

Yeah I remember that series 'As queer as folk' I agree with the + at the end too though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

When is BGT back?

[Kizzy]

Ally be quirky?!