View Full Version : Russia gives Beauty and Beast 16+ rating due to 'gay moment'
arista
09-03-2017, 04:29 AM
[The new version of the fairytale
has been judged unsuitable for children,
with some Russian critics calling
it 'perverted'.
Ultra-conservative lawmakers
previously tried to ban the film,
citing the controversial Russian law
that makes it illegal to disseminate
"gay propaganda" to minors.
The film had previously been
announced as 6+ in its Russian
promotional campaign.
In a letter to the Russian
culture minister, anti-gay politician
Vitaly Milonov called the Disney film
"blatant, shameless propaganda
of sin and perverted sexual relationships".]
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[LeFou's love for Gaston has
been described as Disney's
'first exclusively gay moment']
http://news.sky.com/story/russia-gives-beauty-and-beast-16-rating-due-to-gay-moment-10793863
Have not seen this Film yet
but Russia is saying its protecting children
they are Anti Gay as a nation, of course
LemonJam
09-03-2017, 05:09 AM
He's definitely not the only gay disney character tho like...
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lets be real people
Jake.
09-03-2017, 06:03 AM
it's also a film about a woman falling in love with an animal but that's Russia's priorities for you
Cherie
09-03-2017, 07:03 AM
He's definitely not the only gay disney character tho like...
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lets be real people
Exactly, its kinda funny that it had to be pointed out that there was a gay character before they put the 16 rating on it
Crimson Dynamo
09-03-2017, 07:11 AM
"Russia are now re-evaluating popular shows Are you being served and the character of Lukewarm in Porridge"
"Is it is also reported that popular LBGT mystery author Rob Innes will have his visa blocked, not due to the nature of his books but his resemblance to a young Lukewarm"
:omgno:
Marsh.
09-03-2017, 09:56 AM
it's also a film about a woman falling in love with an animal but that's Russia's priorities for you
He's a man cursed to look like an animal you brute!
Marsh.
09-03-2017, 09:57 AM
"Russia are now re-evaluating popular shows Are you being served and the character of Lukewarm in Porridge"
"Is it is also reported that popular LBGT mystery author Rob Innes will have his visa blocked, not due to the nature of his books but his resemblance to a young Lukewarm"
:omgno:
Omfg
Niamh.
09-03-2017, 09:59 AM
it's also a film about a woman falling in love with an animal but that's Russia's priorities for you
Was just going to say, Russias is fine with Bestiality propaganda though :hehe:
Marsh.
09-03-2017, 10:04 AM
Not Russia thinking lafou is the beauty and Gaston the beast?
Withano
09-03-2017, 10:26 AM
Russia so silly
Niamh.
09-03-2017, 10:33 AM
Russia so silly
Seriously.
They were going to buy the rights to Mrs. browns Boys too but Brendan O'Carroll refused to let them cut the gay couple in it. Not a fan of his but good for him for standing his ground
Withano
09-03-2017, 10:57 AM
Seriously.
They were going to by the rights to Mrs. browns Boys too but Brendan O'Carroll refused to let them cut the gay couple in it. Not a fan of his but good for him for standing his ground
Its mad! It doesnt really make sense how backwards the are regarding homosexuality - all their neighbouring countries are fine with it, and their education levels are really high on a global scale. Putin needs to go. Theyre just living in the same rut as they were when he started.
Niamh.
09-03-2017, 11:03 AM
Its mad! It doesnt really make sense how backwards the are regarding homosexuality - all their neighbouring countries are fine with it, and their education levels are really high on a global scale. Putin needs to go. Theyre just living in the same rut as they were when he started.
Yeah definitely. Also, events like the World Cup being held there is disgraceful, they shouldn't be allowed host it, their football is rife with racism and their fans were one of the only countries to cause so much trouble at the Euros last year
Denver
09-03-2017, 11:08 AM
tbf though Disney has only done this scene as a stunt
Marsh.
09-03-2017, 11:12 AM
Wow how dare they have gay characters.
That can only be a stunt. :rolleyes:
Denver
09-03-2017, 11:15 AM
Wow how dare they have gay characters.
That can only be a stunt. :rolleyes:
It is just not needing in this film if they want to do LGBT stuff make a new film.
It is just a 2 second kiss in a 2 hour film
Lostie!
09-03-2017, 11:17 AM
It is just not needing in this film if they want to do LGBT stuff make a new film.
It is just a 2 second kiss in a 2 hour film
So basically, if a movie wants to be inclusive about LGBT characters, they should make a big deal out of it because gay people can't just exist naturally alongside a story that isn't centered around their sexuality. Got it.
Denver
09-03-2017, 11:22 AM
So basically, if a movie wants to be inclusive about LGBT characters, they should make a big deal out of it because gay people can't just exist naturally alongside a story that isn't centered around their sexuality. Got it.
It is a clear stunt Disney just want money that is there main aim.
Lostie!
09-03-2017, 11:24 AM
Yeah, I reckon this movie would have been at serious risk of flopping before they added a minor gay character.
Denver
09-03-2017, 11:25 AM
You can tell its a stunt when they sterotype the character 10 fold
Withano
09-03-2017, 11:27 AM
Everyone pretending that one of Disneys alltime biggest stars wasnt a lesbian?
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Denver
09-03-2017, 11:31 AM
I dont get why everyone is fan girling Disney doing it either as they are like a decade late to the party
Tom4784
09-03-2017, 11:36 AM
Because it's better to be late than not show up?
Would you rather they had no progressive elements in their stories?
Niamh.
09-03-2017, 11:39 AM
You can tell its a stunt when they sterotype the character 10 fold
Most of Disneys characters are over the top and stereo typed though :shrug:
Denver
09-03-2017, 11:39 AM
Because it's better to be late than not show up?
Would you rather they had no progressive elements in their stories?
Me personally i dont think this is the right film.
They could have done it in a past film or made another one.
But they chose to do it in the most talked about Disney film in ages that is why i feel they have done it for some kind of stunt/publicity then put any actual thought process into it.
It would be nice to see it happen to a character we could see grow not one of the side characters
Niamh.
09-03-2017, 11:41 AM
Me personally i dont think this is the right film.
They could have done it in a past film or made another one.
But they chose to do it in the most talked about Disney film in ages that is why i feel they have done it for some kind of stunt/publicity then put any actual thought process into it.
It would be nice to see it happen to a character we could see grow not one of the side characters
Which is why they wouldn't have needed to pull a stunt to sell the film :shrug:
Denver
09-03-2017, 11:42 AM
Which is why they wouldn't have needed to pull a stunt to sell the film :shrug:
But it adds extra publicity which will likely turn into more tickets being sold which = loads of money
Withano
09-03-2017, 11:43 AM
I dont get why everyone is fan girling Disney doing it either as they are like a decade late to the party
Theyre not really though, considering Disney isnt aimed at an adult audience. If anything, theyre a decade early. Which is excellent.
Niamh.
09-03-2017, 11:44 AM
But it adds extra publicity which will likely turn into more tickets being sold which = loads of money
I disagree, if anything it will lead to less ticket sales by people protesting
Denver
09-03-2017, 11:44 AM
Theyre not really though, considering Disney isnt aimed at an adult audience. If anything, theyre a decade early. Which is excellent.
But shouldnt children be taught that there is nothing wrong with being different to everyone else in school as soon as possible?
Withano
09-03-2017, 11:45 AM
But shouldnt children be taught that there is nothing wrong with being different to everyone else in school as soon as possible?
Which is precisely why Disney doing it is excellent? Lol
Tom4784
09-03-2017, 11:45 AM
Me personally i dont think this is the right film.
They could have done it in a past film or made another one.
But they chose to do it in the most talked about Disney film in ages that is why i feel they have done it for some kind of stunt/publicity then put any actual thought process into it.
It would be nice to see it happen to a character we could see grow not one of the side characters
Lamenting that it should have happened in an earlier film is beyond pointless.
Like it's been said before, why would they need a publicity stunt when BatB is probably the most hyped film being released this year?
Little steps are better than nothing, a gay side character is better than having no gay characters at all.
Withano
09-03-2017, 11:46 AM
I think, for now, theyre just trying to normsalise it. Make it less taboo.. therres been gay references in past disney films and the less subtle they get, the more normal it becomes.
Denver
09-03-2017, 11:49 AM
I disagree, if anything it will lead to less ticket sales by people protesting
I disagree only sales in countries that make gay propaganda illegal will suffer.
Everywhere else will have high ticket it sales i doubt there will be too much protesting
Niamh.
09-03-2017, 11:53 AM
I disagree only sales in countries that make gay propaganda illegal will suffer.
Everywhere else will have high ticket it sales i doubt there will be too much protesting
I doubt people who wouldn't have normally went, will go just cos there's a gay disney character in it so no extra sales because of it but they will have people, alot of people too I think, not just in countries like Russia, who will refuse to "expose their children to that" jeez large areas of bible belt America for example and Russia is a huge country too btw, that's a big loss in sales right there alone
Lostie!
09-03-2017, 11:53 AM
The "Gay agenda!! Think of the children!!" people exist in all countries, this will absolutely alienate some of the audience. It will still do well because it's a hugely anticipated movie though, not because it has a gay character.
Tom4784
09-03-2017, 12:00 PM
I disagree only sales in countries that make gay propaganda illegal will suffer.
Everywhere else will have high ticket it sales i doubt there will be too much protesting
It will have an effect on sales, there's a lot of 'family' and religious organisations in countries like the US that will opt for boycotts and such. It'll still be a rampant success but having a gay character will affect sales even in the most progressive of places.
Marsh.
09-03-2017, 12:13 PM
You can tell its a stunt when they sterotype the character 10 fold
Yeah because that same character wasn't camp as Christmas in the animation was he.
That's probably what made them think you know what this guy is in love with Gaston.
Marsh.
09-03-2017, 12:16 PM
I think, for now, theyre just trying to normsalise it. Make it less taboo.. therres been gay references in past disney films and the less subtle they get, the more normal it becomes.
Exactly so when it gets to the point that a gay character is at the centre of one of their movies it isn't a left field shock out of nowhere. They're slowly making it part and parcel of the Disney world as it is in the real world.
Kizzy
09-03-2017, 01:14 PM
And yet...Tatu?
Niamh.
09-03-2017, 01:15 PM
And yet...Tatu?
cos they're girls probably
Marsh.
09-03-2017, 01:22 PM
Tatu?
Niamh.
09-03-2017, 01:24 PM
Tatu?
You never heard of Tatu? :o
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Niamh.
09-03-2017, 01:24 PM
They're Russian btw ^
Shaun
09-03-2017, 01:56 PM
The only problem I have with this is the character they chose. It could easily have been Lumiere, or Cogsworth, but instead the "very first gay" is an obsessed, pathetic sidekick to the villain. Thanks for the bone, Disney?
Amy Jade
09-03-2017, 02:05 PM
The only problem I have with this is the character they chose. It could easily have been Lumiere, or Cogsworth, but instead the "very first gay" is an obsessed, pathetic sidekick to the villain. Thanks for the bone, Disney?
Elsa from Frozen is gay isn't she?
Without sounding like a know it all either I've knows quite a few gay guys who experienced being attracted to their best mates in school and having secret crushes on their friend. It's a nice inclusion imo.
Mystic Mock
09-03-2017, 03:46 PM
it's also a film about a woman falling in love with an animal but that's Russia's priorities for you
Beastiality and loving the undead is cool in Hollywood according to stuff like this and Twilight.:joker:
ps the character of Gaston was invented by Howard Ashman in the first place to be inherently gay (based on the idea of trade), so while I do agree that the whole "beta villain is gay for the alpha villain" idea isn't as progressive as Disney makes it out to be, it was all there in the original
Well this sucks. I'm so happy that gay characters are surfacing in children's films. Honestly, growing up, gay people were nowhere to be seen anywhere in children's entertainment - I didn't even know that being 'gay' was a thing till I was bout 7 probably? And that's really wrong.
Marsh.
09-03-2017, 08:31 PM
You never heard of Tatu? :o
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I knew them I just didn't get what relevance they had. But they're Russian so I get it now. [emoji23]
Jake.
09-03-2017, 08:42 PM
I feel so sorry for kids growing up today. Will not see this movie because it will encourage them to do this more in movies. It's a kid's movie, for Christ sake!
I thought you was "fighting the PC culture"?
Liberty4eva
09-03-2017, 09:28 PM
I thought you was "fighting the PC culture"?
I am. It's politically correct to not complain about this twist in Beauty and the Beast. Shame, because I really was going to see this movie out of nostalgia for the classic cartoon.
*the classic cartoon written by a bunch of gays with super gay undertones
I'll stick to my classic child-friendly story of a horny buffalo keeping a woman hostage until she gets Stockholm syndrome thang yew very much
Lostie!
09-03-2017, 09:47 PM
I'll stick to my classic child-friendly story of a horny buffalo keeping a woman hostage until she gets Stockholm syndrome thang yew very much
:joker:
Marsh.
09-03-2017, 11:39 PM
It is just not needing in this film if they want to do LGBT stuff make a new film.
It is just a 2 second kiss in a 2 hour film
Exactly. It's a minor detail about one of the characters. Why do they need to make a new film? They've not retconned or changed the story to fit it in. And it IS a new film.
Plus, given your previous posts, they've never done it before so they should never bother again new film or not.
Toy Soldier
10-03-2017, 07:50 AM
I'm in two minds over this. On one hand I have absolutely no issue with them showing ":omgno: gay stuff!!" in a kids film or any film, I don't see it as an issue at all and my kids see it as even less of an issue. If kissing is OK in a kids film then it doesn't matter who is doing the kissing.
On the other hand... ... ... not exactly the most positive example of a gay character?? "Hey kids being gay is normal... BUT you have to be the creepy piggy little friend perving over your ultra-masculine male friend." Sort of an offensive stereotype that plays directly into the mindset of the type of guys who shout "arses against the wall lads LOL LOL" when the gay kid walks into the changing room.
Also...
Craig and Anthony tease...?
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i146/yohinnchild/BB/craigcoates.jpg
Withano
10-03-2017, 09:42 AM
I am. It's politically correct to not complain about this twist in Beauty and the Beast. Shame, because I really was going to see this movie out of nostalgia for the classic cartoon.
But you did leave a little complaint? Sounds to me like you love political correctness.
Jamie89
10-03-2017, 06:24 PM
I'll stick to my classic child-friendly story of a horny buffalo keeping a woman hostage until she gets Stockholm syndrome thang yew very much
:joker::joker:
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