USA Black Academics get angry over British Rugby fans sing Sweet Chariot

[arista]

Was in the Times
so no link
it's a pay site
Ref: Ch5HD AM Live Paper Review


The Fans mean no harm to sing that old song
and are not going to Stop.


What will the USA Black Academics do?

Maybe they will send in Activists?

[ebandit]

...think they will pool their collective academic minds to ensure world peace

......................cheers guys!

Mark L

[Northern Monkey]

Do British rugby fans even visit the US?Do the US even play rugby?

[arista]

Do British rugby fans even visit the US?Do the US even play rugby?


Valid Point NM

[Kizzy]

The onus isn't on how well travelled the fans are or what sports are played in the US, it's the cultural appropriation of the song.
Is the significance of the song known? I would hope so.
It isn't sung with any malice and I can't see them changing, the academics have educated them as to it's history so they aren't ignorant to it's deeper meaning any longer.

[Northern Monkey]

The onus isn't on how well travelled the fans are or what sports are played in the US, it's the cultural appropriation of the song.
Is the significance of the song known? I would hope so.
It isn't sung with any malice and I can't see them changing, the academics have educated them as to it's history so they aren't ignorant to it's deeper meaning any longer.

"Cultural appropriation" is the biggest BS term going and it's not anything to do with Americans what British rugby fans sing.We don't moan about American Football or Baseball fans and try dictating what they do.

[Withano]

If they were really academics, they should have saw it coming.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tell them to feck off

[Kizzy]

"Cultural appropriation" is the biggest BS term going and it's not anything to do with Americans what British rugby fans sing.We don't moan about American Football or Baseball fans and try dictating what they do.

Is it? Is it up there with the likes of, 'PC' ' virtue signaling' 'loony lefty' 'snowflake'?
It isn't BS, the historical significance of the song is well documented, there's nothing wrong with acknowledging this.

[jennyjuniper]

Do British rugby fans even visit the US?Do the US even play rugby?

No, they play a sissified version of it with lots of padding and helmets. Big Jessies.:laugh:

[Cherie]

Is there anything the American blacks aren't angry about :think:

[Denver]

UB40 remain unbothered

[Brother Leon]

"Cultural appropriation" is the biggest BS term going and it's not anything to do with Americans what British rugby fans sing.We don't moan about American Football or Baseball fans and try dictating what they do.

Well, if they were singing songs with strong connotations to slavery then I'm sure we would...

[ebandit]

........england fans loved singing the song today........................

...record win v scotland

Mark L

[arista]

........england fans loved singing the song today........................

...record win v scotland

Mark L


Yes they mean No Harm
in singing it , as well
Mark L.

[arista]

Is there anything the American blacks aren't angry about :think:

Blame NWA
1988
they started it all.

"feck the police" track, sold very well
even with white folk
Even selling today, no less


They were educated
not from slums
ref : Paxman Live interview
Newsnight 1988

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[MB.]

When you find out that fat white men halfway across the world have been using a slave spiritual sung by your ancestors and inspired by the Underground Railroad, in preparation to throw an egg-shaped ball about whilst having little to no idea about its significance beyond that, I think you'd be allowed to be slightly peeved about it tbh

[Crimson Dynamo]

When you find out that fat white men halfway across the world have been using a slave spiritual sung by your ancestors and inspired by the Underground Railroad, in preparation to throw an egg-shaped ball about whilst having little to no idea about its significance beyond that, I think you'd be allowed to be slightly peeved about it tbh

When you find out that fat white men

:facepalm:

[MB.]

Sorry, I forgot that rugby players were notorious for being slim women

[Northern Monkey]

Sorry, I forgot that rugby players were notorious for being slim women

You get alot of slim women in rugby crowds.

[MB.]

You probably get a lot of slim women from the town Rugby too, but that's still not what I'm talking about

[Niamh.]

You cant really control what fans sing or chant though.

[ebandit]

................ya can't copyright an old song ya never wrote

and state who can and can't sing it

and in what context..........................................

Mark L

[Crimson Dynamo]

................ya can't copyright an old song ya never wrote

and state who can and can't sing it

and in what context..........................................

Mark L

:clap1:

[Northern Monkey]

................ya can't copyright an old song ya never wrote

and state who can and can't sing it

and in what context..........................................

Mark L
Yep:thumbs:


Hence 'cultural appropriation' being a totally BS term.
Just another way of saying 'you can't do that cos i'm offended'

[Cherie]

You cant really control what fans sing or chant though.

:clap1:

[Cherie]

Blame NWA
1988
they started it all.

"feck the police" track, sold very well
even with white folk
Even selling today, no less


They were educated
not from slums
ref : Paxman Live interview
Newsnight 1988

qu6r7Yd_iG8

.

[Livia]

Can someone please tell the "black academics" that I don't mind that the song about Moses and the Jews in Egypt (Let My People Go) was adopted as a negro spiritual. We don't mind sharing.

[Alf]

Well, if they were singing songs with strong connotations to slavery then I'm sure we would...Most songs have a connection to something, most have meaning and history, just like most words.

As long as that song isn't actually committing slavery, then what's the problem?