Fund set up to help find missing Madeleine McCann could be wiped out

[Niamh.]

Whatever your opinion on the McCann story, surely everyone can agree that them wiping out their fund on suing and trying to gag people is not what those who donated had intended the money they gave to be spent on............. in the "Find Maddie" fund............:worry:

THE fund set up to help find Madeleine McCann could be wiped out, it has emerged.

http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/392000/620x/Madeleine-McCann-599164.jpg

Her parents have lost a third court battle against the former detective who insists she is dead.

A Portuguese judge dismissed Kate and Gerry’s claim that an earlier Supreme Court ruling in favour of Goncalo Amaral was erroneous and contained contradictions.

The doctors, from Rothley, Leics, must now pay Mr Amaral’s legal costs for a series of hearings.

No figure has been agreed but it will be six fi gures and could use up all the cash left in the fund set up to help find Madeleine if trustees agree to release the cash.

The couple were said to be “disappointed but not surprised” by the ruling. Spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “This is just another part of the legal challenge.”

He refused to say if they planned to go to the European Court of Human Rights. But if they lost there it could bankrupt them.

Mr Mitchell said future possible action was “a matter for Kate and Gerry’s lawyers in Portugal”. The fund stands at £714,800.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/599164/madeleine-mccann-fund-cop-parents

[Cherie]

I've never given any money to the fund, but anyone who did directly or indirectly by buying the book must feel very shortchanged that a fund set up to find her was misused in this way.

[ebandit]

..........is such a fund audited?...........how much has actual been used to find

the truth about maddie..............how much to defend the mc cann's entrenched

position.....................?

Mark L

[user104658]

Surely it must be set up as a charity and is it not then regulated? I'm sure charities have to use a certain percentage of funds for specifically what the charity states they are for...

[Niamh.]

Surely it must be set up as a charity and is it not then regulated? I'm sure charities have to use a certain percentage of funds for specifically what the charity states they are for...

I think I read somewhere that it's set up as a LTd company, I need to look it up though.

ETA :

this is it, don't think it's a charity

http://www.findmadeleine.com/about_us/madeleines-fund.html

(2) What are the registered details of Madeleine's Fund?

Madeleine's Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England and Wales, CRN 6248215. Registered office: 2-6 Cannon Street, London EC4M 6YH.

(3) Why is Madeleine's Fund not registered as a charity?

Because Madeleine's Fund is currently focussed on searching for one child only, Madeleine McCann it cannot register as a charity. However in the future, if the objects of the fund are fulfilled and subsequently changed to concentrate on multiple similar cases, it may then be possible to acquire charitable status.

(4) Can gift aid or tax relief be claimed on my donation to Madeleine's Fund?

No it cannot because these are only available to registered charities.

(5) If Madeleine's Fund isn't a charity who is regulating it?

The directors regulate Madeleine's Fund and they aspire to follow best practice policies and processes used by charities. The directors have reviewed its operation against “Good Governance: A Code for the Voluntary and Community Sector”. This sets out best practice requirements for charities.

The Fund also has:

a Financial Procedures Manual
job descriptions for directors, chair and treasurer
clearly laid out policies and processes for:
payments
expense claims
risk management
whistle blowing
registering conflicts of interest
(6) Who are the directors of Madeleine's Fund?

There are six directors of the Fund. They are:

Brian Kennedy, a retired head teacher;
Edward Smethurst – A Commercial lawyer;
Jon Corner – Director of a media company;
Michael Linett- retired accountant
Kate McCann General Practitioner
Gerry McCann Consultant Cardiologist

[ebandit]

LOL gerry 'n kate .........looking after their own fund...........

Mark L

like cherie no way would i have contributed to this fund...sometimes it pays to

be an ol' curmudgeon

[Niamh.]

LOL gerry 'n kate .........looking after their own fund...........

Mark L

like cherie no way would i have contributed to this fund...sometimes it pays to

be an ol' curmudgeon

I know yeah,

Who regulates the fund if it isn't a Charity?
The Directors
Who are the Directors?
The McCanns

:laugh:

[jaxie]

Under no circumstances should the fund be used by the parents to take people to court. It isn't their personal fund to dip into, it's to be used in attempts to find out what happened to Madeline.

[the truth]

funny how this gets so little bbc coverage? they are scum

[Deirdre]

not surprised since they used the fund to pay off their mortgage

[chuff me dizzy]

Surely it must be set up as a charity and is it not then regulated? I'm sure charities have to use a certain percentage of funds for specifically what the charity states they are for...

Its not a charity ,its a LTD CO set up within days of Maddies demise ( not expecting her back ?) with McCanns on the board deciding what the money can be spent on, they have used it to pay off their mortgage and to hire media consultants, PR consultants ,Carter Ruck who are top extradition lawyers who worked for Gnl Pinochet

[chuff me dizzy]

I think I read somewhere that it's set up as a LTd company, I need to look it up though.

ETA :

this is it, don't think it's a charity

http://www.findmadeleine.com/about_us/madeleines-fund.html

(2) What are the registered details of Madeleine's Fund?

Madeleine's Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England and Wales, CRN 6248215. Registered office: 2-6 Cannon Street, London EC4M 6YH.

(3) Why is Madeleine's Fund not registered as a charity?

Because Madeleine's Fund is currently focussed on searching for one child only, Madeleine McCann it cannot register as a charity. However in the future, if the objects of the fund are fulfilled and subsequently changed to concentrate on multiple similar cases, it may then be possible to acquire charitable status.

(4) Can gift aid or tax relief be claimed on my donation to Madeleine's Fund?

No it cannot because these are only available to registered charities.

(5) If Madeleine's Fund isn't a charity who is regulating it?

The directors regulate Madeleine's Fund and they aspire to follow best practice policies and processes used by charities. The directors have reviewed its operation against “Good Governance: A Code for the Voluntary and Community Sector”. This sets out best practice requirements for charities.

The Fund also has:

a Financial Procedures Manual
job descriptions for directors, chair and treasurer
clearly laid out policies and processes for:
payments
expense claims
risk management
whistle blowing
registering conflicts of interest
(6) Who are the directors of Madeleine's Fund?

There are six directors of the Fund. They are:

Brian Kennedy, a retired head teacher;
Edward Smethurst – A Commercial lawyer;
Jon Corner – Director of a media company;
Michael Linett- retired accountant
Kate McCann General Practitioner
Gerry McCann Consultant Cardiologist

Kennedy is Kates Uncle

[chuff me dizzy]

http://www.findmadeleine.com/about_us/madeleines-fund.html

Look at the part that says the money can be used to "Support Maddies family "

[DemolitionRed]

I'm all for them paying for this Portuguese book being published but I'm now in a position of believing this is one huge cover-up. We have to accept though, not everyone believes this; in fact there are still a large chunk of British society on the McCanns side and clearly, people are still handing over large chunks of money in the search for Maddie. If I was on the McCanns side I would want that book shut down. On its release there's going to be a huge amount of damage done to both the McCanns and their company. God forbid if we are all wrong and Maddie is growing up somewhere on the globe... unlikely but not impossible.

The company is VAT registered, so although it wouldn’t be the done thing to take a salary, it would be perfectly acceptable to pay expenses. If no expenses are taken then the tax bracket would be much higher. People who give to a cause are normally content in the knowledge that a portion of their donation will be used for necessary expenses and as much as we may disagree, this sort of fund (in this case) provides ability to assist the family financially if necessary and so some of those expenses could include the occasional mortgage payments. What donators are never happy about is paying large chunks tax on what they have gifted.

[chuff me dizzy]

I'm all for them paying for this Portuguese book being published but I'm now in a position of believing this is one huge cover-up. We have to accept though, not everyone believes this; in fact there are still a large chunk of British society on the McCanns side and clearly, people are still handing over large chunks of money in the search for Maddie. If I was on the McCanns side I would want that book shut down. On its release there's going to be a huge amount of damage done to both the McCanns and their company. God forbid if we are all wrong and Maddie is growing up somewhere on the globe... unlikely but not impossible.

The company is VAT registered, so although it wouldn’t be the done thing to take a salary, it would be perfectly acceptable to pay expenses. If no expenses are taken then the tax bracket would be much higher. People who give to a cause are normally content in the knowledge that a portion of their donation will be used for necessary expenses and as much as we may disagree, this sort of fund (in this case) provides ability to assist the family financially if necessary and so some of those expenses could include the occasional mortgage payments. What donators are never happy about is paying large chunks tax on what they have gifted.

Have you see the latest twitter polls ? the days that Mc were believed is long gone ,whenever the online newspapers allow comments 99% are ANTI Mcs

[Vicky.]

Surely it must be set up as a charity and is it not then regulated? I'm sure charities have to use a certain percentage of funds for specifically what the charity states they are for...

Nope..charity accounts need to be transparent and as I understand it, yes a certain percentage of the funds have to go on what the charity is claimed to be for. So limited company was chosen instead, though it is often referred to as a charity.

I think its a damn disgrace that so many people donated in good faith (also thinking it was a charity) and their money has been spent on court cases and such. About time the coffers ran out given it doesn't get spent on searching anyway. Time for the parents gravy train to end

[DemolitionRed]

Have you see the latest twitter polls ? the days that Mc were believed is long gone ,whenever the online newspapers allow comments 99% are ANTI Mcs

Well I'm glad to hear that. Its time it stopped.

[chuff me dizzy]

Well I'm glad to hear that. Its time it stopped.

10 years overdue !

[joeysteele]

10 years overdue !

Dead right it is chuff.

[the truth]

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Everyone has an opinion on what may have happened to poor Madeleine. Use these polls to register your thoughts on the various mysteries of May 2007 at the Ocean Club Resort in Praia da Luz, Portugal.
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Are the McCanns Guilty?
This was the first poll on this site back in November 2007.
Are the McCanns guilty of killing their daughter?
Yes (71%, 5,207 Votes)
No (29%, 2,109 Votes)
Total Voters: 7,316
Top
Time of Death?
The Tapas 9 tell us that Madeleine was taken on May 3, 2007 as they dined at the Tapas Bar at the Ocean Club Resort. There is little evidence to suggest that Madeleine was even alive on May 3. The only evidence in the public domain are small pieces of information such as the famous “Last Photo”, allegedly taken at 2:29pm on the afternoon of May 3. There are conflicting stories about whether the McCanns dined at the Paraiso beach restaurant that afternoon or whether the children were in the creche. Gerry McCann’s whereabouts are not adequately documented.
When do you think Madeleine died?
May 3rd, 2007 - Evening (33%, 593 Votes)
May 2nd, 2007 (31%, 557 Votes)
Before May 2nd, 2007 (21%, 367 Votes)
May 3rd, 2007 - Morning (14%, 256 Votes)
Total Voters: 1,773
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How Did Madeleine Die?
The Portuguese police and many others strongly believe that Madeleine died in Apartment 5A. There is little evidence of abduction and the story told by the Tapas 9 has changed so many times. Shutters were jemmied in the first versions of their alibi. The Ocean Club Manager, Mr John Hill said on May 4 that there was no damage to the window or shutter and it did not look like an abduction. Alex Woolfall of Bell Pottinger said that he heard no suggestion in the early days that the girl had been snatched. “Certainly I did not hear any discussion that this could be a paedophile or an aggravated robbery. All the time I was around it was whether she could have wandered off and had an accident or somebody had actually taken her in, perhaps not with ill-intent.
Do you think Madeleine died...
Accidentally through an act of a parent? (62%, 1,301 Votes)
As a result of an accident? (21%, 438 Votes)
Premeditated murder or manslaughter? (14%, 285 Votes)
As a result of resucitation gone wrong? (4%, 82 Votes)
Total Voters: 2,106
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Do The Tapas 7 Know?
The Tapas 9 tell us that Madeleine was taken on May 3, 2007 as they dined at the Tapas Bar at the Ocean Club Resort. There is little evidence to suggest that Madeleine was even alive on May 3. The only evidence in the public domain are small pieces of information such as the famous “Last Photo”, allegedly taken at 2:29pm on the afternoon of May 3. There are conflicting stories about whether the McCanns dined at the Paraiso beach restaurant that afternoon or whether the children were in the creche. Gerry McCann’s whereabouts are not adequately documented.
Do you think any of the Tapas 7 know what happened?
Yes, some of them know. (57%, 1,137 Votes)
Yes, all of them know. (30%, 596 Votes)
No, they are clueless. (14%, 278 Votes)
Total Voters: 2,011
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Guilty of Child Neglect?
This site does not believe the McCann alibi that they left their children on the night of May 3 and checked them every half hour. But, if the McCanns did do what they said they did then this would seem like an admission of child neglect. To leave three toddlers under the age of 4, alone in a dark room in a foreign country is tantamount to serious neglect. If we are to believe the McCann’s alibi, then their brand of childcare has directly resulted in the loss of one of their children and of course it follows that their twins were also needlessly exposed to neglect. As doctors, the McCanns hold a special responsibility to be seen as setting an example of how to behave to other families. In this role, they failed themselves and they failed their daughter Madeleine.
Did the McCanns neglect their children?
Yes - guilty as sin (90%, 1,947 Votes)
Yes - but we've all done it (7%, 160 Votes)
No - it was like being in the backgarden (3%, 55 Votes)
Total Voters: 2,162
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A Money Making Scam?
The rapidity and ease that the Madeleine Fund was set up has seemed to indicate some kind of premeditation. To have registered trademarks and limited companies set up to administer the whole spectrum of charitable-like fund raising activities doesn’t “smell” right. The Fund gives the appearance of a bona fide charity but it isn’t. It is a private limited company and their policies allow for the money to be used for and by the McCann family for any purpose whatsoever. There are no reports on how the fund is being used and finding out information from the company is impossible. This website, has received no response from Madeleine’s Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited after sending them numerous questions. The bottom line is that we have been fobbed off and lied to.
Is the Madeleine Fund a money making scam?
Yes - people were conned (67%, 1,456 Votes)
Not initially but it is now (28%, 596 Votes)
No - it is totally honest and bona fide (5%, 106 Votes)
Total Voters: 2,158
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A Fund Investigation?
Should the Fund be investigated? We at TRUTH For Madeleine believe it is a serious injustice for a company to take in money from children and poor elderly folk without releasing details of how the money is being used to find Madeleine McCann. The only indications we have are that Madeleine’s Fund has employed a couple of private detective agencies. One of the agencies – Metodo 3 – is a Barcelona based company with little or no track record of finding missing people. Their collosal monthly expense bill seems to be going nowhere fast. Indeed, there are many reports that Metodo 3 have paid people to come up with “sightings” of Madeleine. Surely if this is true it amounts to serious fraud?
Should the Fund be investigated?
Yes - it needs a full audit (95%, 1,828 Votes)
No - wait till their accounts are filed (3%, 52 Votes)
No - it is all legitimate and honest (2%, 46 Votes)
Total Voters: 1,926
Top
A British Government Conspiracy?
Ever since the British Foreign Office got involved on May 3, 2007, this whole case has reeked of a conspiracy by the British Government. The first ever news story was released far too soon to be feasible. Gordon Brown got personally involved and former government civil servants started working for the McCanns. Gerry McCann works on a nuclear quango called COMARE. Does Gerry have secrets that need to be protected at all costs? Does Dr Gerry McCann have top people over a barrel?
Is the British Government Involved?
Yes - to cover up something serious (65%, 1,176 Votes)
Yes - just to help the McCanns (26%, 471 Votes)
No way - the government are saints (9%, 166 Votes)
Total Voters: 1,813

[chuff me dizzy]

Are McCanns involved in their daughter's disappearance?
94%Yes, they know more
06%No, they are darling

Twitter poll the other day ........2178 people voted

[Niamh.]

94% Yes lol

[Cherie]

Are McCanns involved in their daughter's disappearance?
94%Yes, they know more
06%No, they are darling

Twitter poll the other day ........2178 people voted


:joker: did LT start the Poll :omgno:

[Niamh.]

:joker: did LT start the Poll :omgno:

:laugh2:

[the truth]

we should demand the money back too, in full

[Niamh.]

we should demand the money back too, in full

Your tax money towards the investigation?

I agree, you really should, by the looks of it it seems like it was never investigated properly at all by Scotland Yard when they never looked at the McCanns as suspects despite the only evidence pointing to them and the fact that statistically the Parents are the most likely culprits. Something really stinks about the whole thing, how protected they seem to be

[chuff me dizzy]

:joker: did LT start the Poll :omgno:

No it was started by a Portuguese lady ( but LT is her left hand man :joker: )

[MrTheMan]

Kate and Gerry seriously need to just give up and accept that their daughter is dead and has been dead for almost 10 years.

[the truth]

Kate and Gerry seriously need to just give up and accept that their daughter is dead and has been dead for almost 10 years.

yes they knew that 10 years ago

[rusticgal]

Kate and Gerry seriously need to just give up and accept that their daughter is dead and has been dead for almost 10 years.


Well there is no proof that she is dead...but Spending the money on proving there innocence instead of using it to find their daughter is outrageous. There are so many missing children who don't have these funds and considering it was their neglect that put their daughter in danger...it all seems an injustice.
I for one don't believe they killed her but they are responsible for her demise...they have to live with that every day for the rest of their lives...but to use money raised to prove their innocence is unacceptable.

[UserSince2005]

I hope they find maddy one day. Heartbroken.

[Niamh.]

Well there is no proof that she is dead...but Spending the money on proving there innocence instead of using it to find their daughter is outrageous. There are so many missing children who don't have these funds and considering it was their neglect that put their daughter in danger...it all seems an injustice.
I for one don't believe they killed her but they are responsible for her demise...they have to live with that every day for the rest of their lives...but to use money raised to prove their innocence is unacceptable.

there is more proof that she is dead than any other scenario actually

lTINYdlixf8

[chuff me dizzy]

there is more proof that she is dead than any other scenario actually

lTINYdlixf8

:clap1: Lots of proof of death,none of abduction only McCanns' say so

[the truth]

Well there is no proof that she is dead...but Spending the money on proving there innocence instead of using it to find their daughter is outrageous. There are so many missing children who don't have these funds and considering it was their neglect that put their daughter in danger...it all seems an injustice.
I for one don't believe they killed her but they are responsible for her demise...they have to live with that every day for the rest of their lives...but to use money raised to prove their innocence is unacceptable.

its not just unacceptable its illegal

[chuff me dizzy]

its not just unacceptable its illegal

WHEN this case cracks open the list of crimes will be endless, they set up this fund claiming it was to be used to search for Maddie to date only 17% of it is close to being about a search the rest has gone on suing people ( A lot more people sued than just Amaral ,I will check how many and post it ) PR companies, media consultant, top class lawyers ,mortgage payments to name but a few things, which is classed as fraud

[DemolitionRed]

Its only illegal if they are guilty

[chuff me dizzy]

Its only illegal if they are guilty

Lots of proof they used fund for not the purpose it was set up for

[chuff me dizzy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2478087/Why-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-E-fits-kept-secret-5-years.html

Why ddi Mcs hide vital efits for 5 years ? Because the man in them was the double of Gerry !!