13 Reasons Why

[Tom4784]

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Could be worth watching, the trailer makes it look a bit hit and miss though.

[Tom4784]

I watched the first episode, I thought it was decent.

[Deirdre]

Just finished this, was about to make a thread. I loved it. Really really hard-hitting, but feel like something like this had to be made. Some scenes are actually very disturbing, I was not expecting that from something on Netflix aimed at adolescents. But like I said, these things unfortunately do happen and this show shows it in the most hard-hitting way.
I'd give it a 9/10 overall.

[andybigbro]

I'm gonna give this a watch soon. :)

[Marsh.]

I'm giving you 13 reasons..... giving you a 13 reasons....

[Niamh.]

Just watched the first episode last night, seems promising

[Tom4784]

I've finished episode 10.

Poor Jeff <3 I was wondering why he never appeared in the scenes set in the present s0b.

[Cal.]

Everyone my age has latched onto this and I hate mainstream things so I'm avoiding this for like 6 months.

[Tom4784]

Everyone my age has latched onto this and I hate mainstream things so I'm avoiding this for like 6 months.

Not you being a hipster.

[Tom4784]

I finished it </3

I loved it. I wasn't too keen on the fact that they've angled for saving the aftermath for a second season and Tyler potentially going on a killing spree is tone deaf but I loved everything else.

[Will.]

Just finished it, I started when it first came out but took a long time to get though it.

It was very good and thought provoking... only criticism is I found some of the episodes too long, it dragged it places.

Parts of the last episode was very difficult to watch, I was close to not being able to switching off/skipping that particular part because it seemed so real.

[Wizard.]

I'm giving you 13 reasons..... giving you a 13 reasons....

not a million?

[Cherie]

On ep 3 okay so far, I guess it will get quite dark though

[Denver]

Half way through this great so far

[Tom4784]

Just finished it, I started when it first came out but took a long time to get though it.

It was very good and thought provoking... only criticism is I found some of the episodes too long, it dragged it places.

Parts of the last episode was very difficult to watch, I was close to not being able to switching off/skipping that particular part because it seemed so real.

I skipped ahead on that bit. I'm not squeamish at all really but I can't watch people cut their wrists. I literally feel a bit faint whenever the vampires in Vampire Diaries bite their own wrists.

[armand.kay]

Really it's just ok I'm on ep 3 and it's a bigger disappointment than strainger things. I'm not saying they're bad show but they honestly have both been really hyped up only to be a disappointment.

[Morgan.]

About to watch episode 8 but loving it so far. Hoping to finish it today/tomorrow.

[Will.]

I skipped ahead on that bit. I'm not squeamish at all really but I can't watch people cut their wrists. I literally feel a bit faint whenever the vampires in Vampire Diaries bite their own wrists.

Yeah it really was awful to watch, I felt I was going to be sick when it happened. Like I didn't expect it to be that bad because it was only a small blade but as you can imagine it looked a lot worse.

I get what you mean, like I'm normally fine with gore but this was something else.

I've not seen Vampire Diaries, always hear that VD/True Blood is really good.

[Marsh.]

not a million?
Yes that was the joke! :oh:

[Marsh.]

Really it's just ok I'm on ep 3 and it's a bigger disappointment than strainger things. I'm not saying they're bad show but they honestly have both been really hyped up only to be a disappointment.
Stranger Things was overrated.

Good show but not sure what all the fuss was about.

[DouglasS]

Is this worth watching - I've almost finished HTGAWM and will need something new.

[LukeB]

Stranger Things was overrated.

Good show but not sure what all the fuss was about.

Delete your account.

[LukeB]

Yes that was the joke! :oh:

I gave you 13 reasons why yesterday so watch. it's not a typical teenage drama. if you that puts you off.

[Marsh.]

I gave you 13 reasons why yesterday so watch. it's not a typical teenage drama. if you that puts you off.
I was singing Gaga you mess :oh:

[armand.kay]

Stranger Things was overrated.

Good show but not sure what all the fuss was about.

Yeah I agree its a pretty good standard show, but it didn't really leave an impression on me. It's no westworld thats all I'm saying :fan:

[Deirdre]

Is this worth watching - I've almost finished HTGAWM and will need something new.

yeah it is worth watching. Although I have heard a lot of people complaining that watching the show gave them huge PTSD and brought back their depression. I already have depression though so I was grand :laugh:

[LukeB]

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[Tom4784]

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Not as good as the original (but then again, what is?) but still kinda cute.

[LukeB]

Not as good as the original (but then again, what is?) but still kinda cute.

I like both the same :worry: but yeah i agree it's cute and it was fitting when they played Selena's version.

[LukeB]

The suicide scene left me distressed! but i enjoyed watching this show and it was beautifully done. I hope this stuff helps people who is thinking about doing stuff like that.

[Denver]

I loved the show just hate how they left it with someone many cliffhangers and hope we get a 2nd series to tie up loose ends

[Ross.]

It was a great show with a hard hitting message

I probably felt the most sympathy for the parents though, I'm glad they got the tapes in the end so they can get answers.

The suicide scene was extremely difficult to watch and I was definitely taken aback by how graphic it all was. I can't help but feel the final one was a little disappointing though, we've been left with all these cliffhangers clearly for a second season which is annoying as I'd rather it have all been concluded.

[Ross.]

And omg I'm heartbroken at Jeff </3 He was lovely

[LukeB]

It was a great show with a hard hitting message

I probably felt the most sympathy for the parents though, I'm glad they got the tapes in the end so they can get answers.

The suicide scene was extremely difficult to watch and I was definitely taken aback by how graphic it all was. I can't help but feel the final one was a little disappointing though, we've been left with all these cliffhangers clearly for a second season which is annoying as I'd rather it have all been concluded.

I agree it was a great show and i really hope the message helps people. They delivered everything perfectly and i liked how unique the show is.

Watching the suicide scene was a bit distressing for me as i didn't expect to see the whole of it and it did make me feel sad though like it was some powerful stuff. The cliffhangers did annoy me too but i'm here for a season 2 but i rather know now.

[Marsh.]

The most tragic thing about this whole thing is that Selena Gomez cover. D:

[LukeB]

The most tragic thing about this whole thing is that Selena Gomez cover. D:

Come again?

[Marsh.]

come again?

listen up cloth ears!!!!

[y.winter]

Decided to watch it since there's a hype.
It was nice to binge, maybe too "American" for me at times. Could've been a bit shorter (really clay? It takes you that long to listen to it?!).
They did a great job with the chemistry between Clay and Hannah. :flutter:
Tony was unbearably annoying and lacks credibility - i don't know if it's the actor, the script or the character itself, but it had zero credibility.

The suicide scene was unnecessarily graphic. I didn't see any point in going into details. Especially when it wasn't what the series was really all about.
The story really didn't need a series two, but they just can't help it, don't they [emoji23]

[Smithy]

I'm about 15 minutes into episode 5 and clay's just said "the only one so far" and the first thing i thought of was that episode of American Dad where Francine gets revenge on all those girls for bullying steve :joker:

The whole series so far is giving me PLL vibes, im not too sure why there's so much hype around it, unless the later episodes are better? It's frustrating how SLOW Clay is with the tapes, it just sort of makes the whole show dragged out :/

[DouglasS]

I've finished the show, It's really sad. I also agree it's annoying how slow Clay is.

[Smithy]

Also if Alex isn't the biggest flaming homo going ill eat my hat, no way is he straight

[Smithy]

ALSO Also, why the **** do all these high school teenagers have tattoos :joker:

[DouglasS]

Also if Alex isn't the biggest flaming homo going ill eat my hat, no way is he straight

They purposely cast someone reasonably flamboyant, who only typically has female friends, and someone not 'manly' as hes always trying to please his father and hes not the guy he wants him to be - that's how it is in the books.

[Niamh.]

Just about to watch the last episode

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[armand.kay]

Also if Alex isn't the biggest flaming homo going ill eat my hat, no way is he straight

Honestly it's joke that I'm as far in as I am he hasn't come out yet...

[y.winter]

Also if Alex isn't the biggest flaming homo going ill eat my hat, no way is he straight

Yes :joker: They could've tried a little bit harder to hide it

[Smithy]

Just finished ep 12, will have to watch the finale on my lunch tomorrow :fist:

May have teared up a bit in the middle of ep 10 too :blush2:

[Nick.]

Managed to watch this in 3 days (Would have been two but I didn't feel like watching the last episode at 2AM). Made me cry quite a few times tbh.

Had to look away during the suicide scenes, don't really feel the need for a second series tbh. Is Alex gay in the books because I thought he was gay from the moment we saw him.

And a shame we never saw more of Jeff during the flashbacks.

[Mokka]

Loved the music of this beautiful man... my favourite artist rt now... featured on a few episodes of this show

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[y.winter]

Just finished ep 12, will have to watch the finale on my lunch tomorrow :fist:

May have teared up a bit in the middle of ep 10 too :blush2:

good luck:hehe:

[armand.kay]

I finally finished it and my opinion still stands, this show really isn't that great. I mean it did pick up a lot more in the last few eps.
I start off with what Idid like. The whole concept and basic story quite interesting and is what kept me watching. I love the directing how the transitions between flashbacks and realtime are seamless.

Now what I didn't like:
- The behaviour and dialogue really isn't realistic and this really pulls you out the story, I constantly find myself asking 'wtf are you doing?'. It also doesn't make much sense why some characters are so scared of the tapes getting out especially people like Zach and Ryan, like yeah he was a douchebag but could he get in serious trouble for a bad date? And for the dialogue "FML for life".....

- Why is Clay's mental health glossed over? Was he just freaking out over the tape? was it insomnia from not sleeping much? Or did the tapes trigger a past problem? The last one is heavily implied but nothing is confirmed.

- Tony is irritating, why is he so ambiguous when talking about the tapes? I get its to add some mystery to the show and meant to leave the audience hooked, but it doesn't make any sense at all for his character. He's meant to me Clay's best friend and he can clearly see how distressed this is all making him yet he is such an arse hole about it "it has to be done like this its what she wanted" like shut the **** up? we also don't see any of him and Hanna's friendship so this loyalty towards her is even more confusing. WHY DID HE ANSWER YES WHEN CLAY ASKED HIM IF HE KILLED HANNA?

- Clay is stupid and annoying. 2017 and i still have to watch self righteous idiots run around trying to do 'whats right' without thinking about their actions AT ALL!

- Mr porter being so unhelpful is just way out there for me. its just so unrealistic no professional would do that. Its 2017 and the school guidance counsellor (who doesn't seem to be corrupt, evil or anything of sorts) lets a 17 year old girl walk just walk out his office after telling him she's just been raped and basically spelling out that she's wants to end her life... I AM SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THIS IS A POSSIBLE SCENARIO!!??

- Hanna is awful. I read somewhere that the writer didn't want the audience to like her and he succeeded but it makes me not care about her killing herself. Yeah what Ryan did was bad but did he really deserve to get a tape telling him that he's responsible for her suicide? Did hanna really feel like he deserved this? Did clay deserve a body tape? For someone suicidal its very unusual that she seems to want to blame others for her suicide. Really it puts them two in the same box as someone who rapped her and her friend!?

- What is the show trying to do? I honestly do not buy this pseudo activism. It doesn't really seem like they did any research at all. The show basically romanticises depression as a way to get revenge on people who bully you, did they show any other ways of her dealing with the bulling? NO! Not only that the whole suicide scene was just so graphic?! Imo the show is extremely irresponsible. While the show does make you think about the way you treat others it makes it seem like every single little bad interaction you have with someone could lead to their suicide. Also end the show with another suicide attempt? really? did he leave tapes too?

[Niamh.]

I finally finished it and my opinion still stands, this show really isn't that great. I mean it did pick up a lot more in the last few eps.
I start off with what Idid like. The whole concept and basic story quite interesting and is what kept me watching. I love the directing how the transitions between flashbacks and realtime are seamless.

Now what I didn't like:
- The behaviour and dialogue really isn't realistic and this really pulls you out the story, I constantly find myself asking 'wtf are you doing?'. It also doesn't make much sense why some characters are so scared of the tapes getting out especially people like Marcus, like yeah he was a douchebag but could he get in serious trouble for a bad date? And for the dialogue "FML for life".....

- Why is Clay's mental health glossed over? Was he just freaking out over the tape? was it insomnia from not sleeping much? Or did the tapes trigger a past problem? The last one is heavily implied but nothing is confirmed.

- Tony is irritating, why is he so ambiguous when talking about the tapes? I get its to add some mystery to the show and meant to leave the audience hooked, but it doesn't make any sense at all for his character. He's meant to me Clay's best friend and he can clearly see how distressed this is all making him yet he is such an arse hole about it "it has to be done like this its what she wanted" like shut the **** up? we also don't see any of him and Hanna's friendship so this loyalty towards her is even more confusing. WHY DID HE ANSWER YES WHEN CLAY ASKED HIM IF HE KILLED HANNA?

- Clay is stupid and annoying. 2017 and i still have to watch self righteous idiots run around trying to do 'whats right' without thinking about their actions AT ALL!

- Mr porter being so unhelpful is just way out there for me. its just so unrealistic no professional would do that. Its 2017 and the school guidance counsellor (who doesn't seem to be corrupt, evil or anything of sorts) lets a 17 year old girl walk just walk out his office after telling him she's just been raped and basically spelling out that she's wants to end her life... I AM SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THIS IS A POSSIBLE SCENARIO!!??

- Hanna is awful. I read somewhere that the writer didn't want the audience to like her and he succeeded but it makes me not care about her killing herself. Yeah what Zach did was bad but did he really deserve to get a tape telling him that he's responsible for her suicide? Did hanna really feel like he deserved this? Did clay deserve a body tape? For someone suicidal its very unusual that she seems to want to blame others for her suicide. Really it puts them two in the same box as someone who rapped her and her friend!?

- What is the show trying to do? I honestly do not buy this pseudo activism. It doesn't really seem like they did any research at all. The show basically romanticises depression as a way to get revenge on people who bully you, did they show any other ways of her dealing with the bulling? NO! Not only that the whole suicide scene was just so graphic?! Imo the show is extremely irresponsible. While the show does make you think about the way you treat others it makes it seem like every single little bad interaction you have with someone could lead to their suicide. Also end the show with another suicide attempt? really? did he leave tapes too?

I did really enjoy the show but having read what you didn't like about it I really can't disagree with any points you made :think: You've kind of changed my whole outlook on it now :laugh:

I was confused about her friendship with Tony as well. They never really showed them being friends except for the very end when she borrowed the tape recorder from him and throughout the whole season she kind of made the point of if she only had a friend then she'd be fine so why didn't she hang out with Tony if she was that friendly with him?

Also, I did spend alot of the season thinking there would be some twist where she'd actually be alive and was just using this tape stuff as a way of teaching them all a lesson :laugh:

[armand.kay]

I did really enjoy the show but having read what you didn't like about it I really can't disagree with any points you made :think: You've kind of changed my whole outlook on it now :laugh:

I was confused about her friendship with Tony as well. They never really showed them being friends except for the very end when she borrowed the tape recorder from him and throughout the whole season she kind of made the point of if she only had a friend then she'd be fine so why didn't she hang out with Tony if she was that friendly with him?

Also, I did spend alot of the season thinking there would be some twist where she'd actually be alive and was just using this tape stuff as a way of teaching them all a lesson :laugh:

Don't get me wrong I did enjoy the show I just don't feel like its as good as people make out.
Yeah Tony made it seem like they were quite close in her last few days. They didn't even show her giving him the tapes, we got no interaction between them at all.

I also thought she was end up being alive lol

[Niamh.]

Don't get me wrong I did enjoy the show I just don't feel like its as good as people make out.
Yeah Tony made it seem like they were quite close in her last few days. They didn't even show her giving him the tapes, we got no interaction between them at all.

I also thought she was end up being alive lol

Also as much as I enjoyed the series, I'm not sure how I feel about a second, a kind of one off story about this girl and her story was enough without them going into Alex potential suicide/suicide attempt and possibly Tyler shooting up the school or something, I don't know, that's ...pardon the pun........overkill

Oh and getting back to your point about the school Counselor, urgh i don't buy that either, he seemed like a nice guy, you would have to be a cold hearted callous ****** to do what he did to her and he didn't strike me as that

[y.winter]

I finally finished it and my opinion still stands, this show really isn't that great. I mean it did pick up a lot more in the last few eps.
I start off with what Idid like. The whole concept and basic story quite interesting and is what kept me watching. I love the directing how the transitions between flashbacks and realtime are seamless.

Now what I didn't like:
- The behaviour and dialogue really isn't realistic and this really pulls you out the story, I constantly find myself asking 'wtf are you doing?'. It also doesn't make much sense why some characters are so scared of the tapes getting out especially people like Zach and Ryan, like yeah he was a douchebag but could he get in serious trouble for a bad date? And for the dialogue "FML for life".....

- Why is Clay's mental health glossed over? Was he just freaking out over the tape? was it insomnia from not sleeping much? Or did the tapes trigger a past problem? The last one is heavily implied but nothing is confirmed.

- Tony is irritating, why is he so ambiguous when talking about the tapes? I get its to add some mystery to the show and meant to leave the audience hooked, but it doesn't make any sense at all for his character. He's meant to me Clay's best friend and he can clearly see how distressed this is all making him yet he is such an arse hole about it "it has to be done like this its what she wanted" like shut the **** up? we also don't see any of him and Hanna's friendship so this loyalty towards her is even more confusing. WHY DID HE ANSWER YES WHEN CLAY ASKED HIM IF HE KILLED HANNA?

- Clay is stupid and annoying. 2017 and i still have to watch self righteous idiots run around trying to do 'whats right' without thinking about their actions AT ALL!

- Mr porter being so unhelpful is just way out there for me. its just so unrealistic no professional would do that. Its 2017 and the school guidance counsellor (who doesn't seem to be corrupt, evil or anything of sorts) lets a 17 year old girl walk just walk out his office after telling him she's just been raped and basically spelling out that she's wants to end her life... I AM SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THIS IS A POSSIBLE SCENARIO!!??

- Hanna is awful. I read somewhere that the writer didn't want the audience to like her and he succeeded but it makes me not care about her killing herself. Yeah what Ryan did was bad but did he really deserve to get a tape telling him that he's responsible for her suicide? Did hanna really feel like he deserved this? Did clay deserve a body tape? For someone suicidal its very unusual that she seems to want to blame others for her suicide. Really it puts them two in the same box as someone who rapped her and her friend!?

- What is the show trying to do? I honestly do not buy this pseudo activism. It doesn't really seem like they did any research at all. The show basically romanticises depression as a way to get revenge on people who bully you, did they show any other ways of her dealing with the bulling? NO! Not only that the whole suicide scene was just so graphic?! Imo the show is extremely irresponsible. While the show does make you think about the way you treat others it makes it seem like every single little bad interaction you have with someone could lead to their suicide. Also end the show with another suicide attempt? really? did he leave tapes too?

Exactly :clap2:

On the whole, it had a good potential, but some things could/should've been polished. Tony is the most blatant excuse of a character, his actions/motives/monologues have zero credibility. The cliff scene is ridiculous. He's supposed to be a 17 yo character, not an external objective narrator. I've understood from my little sister that he doesn't even take an active part in the original book, except being mentioned.

[Niamh.]

Not to mention he looks atleast 10 years older than what his character is supposed to be :laugh:

[Smithy]

Wtf was that ending :umm2:

[Smithy]

The show was good, but Jesus is it overrated, it felt like a teen drama like PLL or teen wolf, just with slightly better acting/writing

[armand.kay]

Also as much as I enjoyed the series, I'm not sure how I feel about a second, a kind of one off story about this girl and her story was enough without them going into Alex potential suicide/suicide attempt and possibly Tyler shooting up the school or something, I don't know, that's ...pardon the pun........overkill

Oh and getting back to your point about the school Counselor, urgh i don't buy that either, he seemed like a nice guy, you would have to be a cold hearted callous ****** to do what he did to her and he didn't strike me as that
From the success of the show theres no doubt theres gonna be a second series, i think theres a second book I'm not sure. Even though I feel like a second series is pointless, maybe a series without Hanna might give us the chance to get to know the other characters a bit better and it might work out to be better.

yeah the school councillor seemed like a nice guy and in the dialogue between him and Hanna he seemed to be jumping from concerned to oblivious. Maybe that seen would of worked better if they had made him out to be a sexist dick, maybe corrupt for some reason? maybe had her try and talk to someone who wasn't supposed to be a professional at dealing with things like this? Idk just something!

Exactly :clap2:

On the whole, it had a good potential, but some things could/should've been polished. Tony is the most blatant excuse of a character, his actions/motives/monologues have zero credibility. The cliff scene is ridiculous. He's supposed to be a 17 yo character, not an external objective narrator. I've understood from my little sister that he doesn't even take an active part in the original book, except being mentioned.
you can defiantly tell he doesn't play much of a part in the book he's just so mono toned, boring and poorly developed. Whats most frustrating is that the show teases a deeper more human side to him with the shot of him and his brothers(?) beating someone up, mentions of a sister, his relationship with Ryan and his coming out but all of that let nowhere. We had the one dimensional character at the end of the series

[Deirdre]

I finally finished it and my opinion still stands, this show really isn't that great. I mean it did pick up a lot more in the last few eps.
I start off with what Idid like. The whole concept and basic story quite interesting and is what kept me watching. I love the directing how the transitions between flashbacks and realtime are seamless.

Now what I didn't like:
- The behaviour and dialogue really isn't realistic and this really pulls you out the story, I constantly find myself asking 'wtf are you doing?'. It also doesn't make much sense why some characters are so scared of the tapes getting out especially people like Zach and Ryan, like yeah he was a douchebag but could he get in serious trouble for a bad date? And for the dialogue "FML for life".....

- Why is Clay's mental health glossed over? Was he just freaking out over the tape? was it insomnia from not sleeping much? Or did the tapes trigger a past problem? The last one is heavily implied but nothing is confirmed.

- Tony is irritating, why is he so ambiguous when talking about the tapes? I get its to add some mystery to the show and meant to leave the audience hooked, but it doesn't make any sense at all for his character. He's meant to me Clay's best friend and he can clearly see how distressed this is all making him yet he is such an arse hole about it "it has to be done like this its what she wanted" like shut the **** up? we also don't see any of him and Hanna's friendship so this loyalty towards her is even more confusing. WHY DID HE ANSWER YES WHEN CLAY ASKED HIM IF HE KILLED HANNA?

- Clay is stupid and annoying. 2017 and i still have to watch self righteous idiots run around trying to do 'whats right' without thinking about their actions AT ALL!

- Mr porter being so unhelpful is just way out there for me. its just so unrealistic no professional would do that. Its 2017 and the school guidance counsellor (who doesn't seem to be corrupt, evil or anything of sorts) lets a 17 year old girl walk just walk out his office after telling him she's just been raped and basically spelling out that she's wants to end her life... I AM SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THIS IS A POSSIBLE SCENARIO!!??

- Hanna is awful. I read somewhere that the writer didn't want the audience to like her and he succeeded but it makes me not care about her killing herself. Yeah what Ryan did was bad but did he really deserve to get a tape telling him that he's responsible for her suicide? Did hanna really feel like he deserved this? Did clay deserve a body tape? For someone suicidal its very unusual that she seems to want to blame others for her suicide. Really it puts them two in the same box as someone who rapped her and her friend!?

- What is the show trying to do? I honestly do not buy this pseudo activism. It doesn't really seem like they did any research at all. The show basically romanticises depression as a way to get revenge on people who bully you, did they show any other ways of her dealing with the bulling? NO! Not only that the whole suicide scene was just so graphic?! Imo the show is extremely irresponsible. While the show does make you think about the way you treat others it makes it seem like every single little bad interaction you have with someone could lead to their suicide. Also end the show with another suicide attempt? really? did he leave tapes too?

I get a lot of what you're saying, the show isn't perfect and I'm not a stan or anything but in terms of Hannah, yeah I didn't really like her too and I guess that's the point. She does bring a lot of **** on herself, in particular the way she spoke to Zach when he asked her out, I don't really understand why she got so mad. But I think the point is that people are not perfect, we all have flaws.

I think also including people like Zach and Clay on the tapes alongside Bryce are to emphasis how everything built up for Hannah and it all got too much. When you're depressed you can feel like the world is out to get you and every little thing that goes wrong feels like a massive thing you'll never get over.

Also, to answer about why Tony said Clay killed Hannah, Hannah had a crush on him and he had a crush on her. If only they were honest about that, he could have saved her, she would have had something to live for, at least in her head. Yeah, it's a huge dramatisation, he didn't directly kill her, but he was a part of her life when she was suffering and he didn't act on trying to save her.

Also, a lot of people on college campuses are told to not report their rapes in order to protect the credibility of the school. I think this was what Mr Porter meant, he didn't want to deal with something like that or have the school's name blackened like that. I also had a counsellor tell me to 'get over it' in terms of something I was going through. I think it's a 'tough love' sort of approach, which clearly doesn't work and just makes you feel worse. So his behaviour is possible I think.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

ok so i just finished this and honestly thought it was borderline garbage lmao

like i really do not get the hype at all

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i mean ok it wasn't garbage but i'd give it like a 6/10?? the suicide scene was ****ing awful and not in a good way

[Marsh.]

Selena Gomez murdering Yazoo was the TIP OF THE ICEBERG.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

this could have been sooo good though which is frustrating like i could edit the show down/change some of the scenes and chop about 5 hours off and it would be amazing

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

but they hired selena gomez instead of me so that's on them

[Marsh.]

I'll wait to watch this then.

Probably watch Scott's Cut on youtube.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

:clap2:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

also the music they used was trash too?

they should have played crystal castles - magic spells during the suicide scene because i just said

[Withano]

Ive been binge watching the **** out of this. Im loving it. On ep9 now.

[Denver]

It looks like a second season for 13 Reasons Why is a sure thing now.

Both Deadline and The Hollywood Reporter have heard rumblings that it's only a matter of time before Netflix makes the news official.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, the writing team for the drama have already convened and have been working on season two for a few weeks.

Also rather interestingly, Riverdale has announced that Ross Butler's character Reggie will be recast for season two due to scheduling conflicts.

Fans will know that Butler plays Zach Dempsey in 13 Reasons Why, and many people have been speculating that the scheduling conflict comes from the Netflix drama's potential second season.

[Shaun]

Just watched episode 1 and um... does it get a lot better?

Is it unreasonable to find the character of Hannah, the setup of the tapes, the way she speaks, incredibly irritating? Idc what you've been through hun, ditch the pretentious podcast shtick. Reminds me of Mr. Robot's Darlene but without the good cause. So whiney.

Half of the characters introduced so far seem stereotypes (naggy mom, uninterested dad - both of Clay - geeky kid that happens to be hella good-looking, dumb/asshole jock) and a lot of the dialogue is corny as hell.

Idk I'll stick with it but that was a hell of a bad pilot.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i want to sex clay

[Firewire]

Officially renewed for a 13-episode second season to be released next year

[Denver]

I am glad because they left it with a lot of questions still to be answered

[Morgan.]

They haven't ruled out Katherine Langford returning as Hannah Baker either as she is an 'integral part' of the story to come.

[Morgan.]

Hannah to return as 'HI-Val' from Emmerdale?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Just watched episode 1 and um... does it get a lot better?

Is it unreasonable to find the character of Hannah, the setup of the tapes, the way she speaks, incredibly irritating? Idc what you've been through hun, ditch the pretentious podcast shtick. Reminds me of Mr. Robot's Darlene but without the good cause. So whiney.

Half of the characters introduced so far seem stereotypes (naggy mom, uninterested dad - both of Clay - geeky kid that happens to be hella good-looking, dumb/asshole jock) and a lot of the dialogue is corny as hell.

Idk I'll stick with it but that was a hell of a bad pilot.

no lol

[Cherie]

They haven't ruled out Katherine Langford returning as Hannah Baker either as she is an 'integral part' of the story to come.

Good

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

how is that gonna work tho :s

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

they could end up doing a "what if" type thing where it turns out she never killed herself? idk

[Shaun]

no lol

Watched 2+3 after I posted and there was mild improvement but I can understand all of the moral criticisms of the show. Using something as random and trivial as 'She slapped me in a coffee shop and stopped being my friend :/' as justification for going all "it's your fault I'm dead, bitch" is grossly inappropriate.

Still think the acting is quite awful but then I guess that happens when you hire a cast that're 100% conveniently hot.

[DouglasS]

The show wouldn't be popular if they cast ugly actors.

[Morgan.]

The show wouldn't be popular if they cast ugly actors.

I think it would tbh

[Deirdre]

one thing that really bugged me were how everyone's lips were so pink all the time. don't know what the make-up artist was thinking there

[Niamh.]

how is that gonna work tho :s

maybe it'll just be her voice as the narrator like in Desperate Housewives

[Shaun]

"Yeah, well that assignment was given out by a dead person!"
..."in history...."

LMAO goodbye. I was liking ep 4 until this screamer.

[Daniel-X]

Watched the first three episodes. I can understand why it's so gripping and people are fascinated with the show, because I am becoming myself. However, as much as I am really enjoying it I'm finding it REALLY hard to sympathise with Hannah. She's coming across as nothing but an attention seeking, melodramatic, annoying bitch. The first three reasons were all kinda blown out of proportion I thought? Idk I might just be a little insensitive but I can't say I'm feeling a great deal of empathy towards her.

[Cherie]

Watched the first three episodes. I can understand why it's so gripping and people are fascinated with the show, because I am becoming myself. However, as much as I am really enjoying it I'm finding it REALLY hard to sympathise with Hannah. She's coming across as nothing but an attention seeking, melodramatic, annoying bitch. The first three reasons were all kinda blown out of proportion I thought? Idk I might just be a little insensitive but I can't say I'm feeling a great deal of empathy towards her.

I think that is part of the point of the show though, that its the little things that can really get to people, and we all handle things differently

[Daniel-X]

Watched the first three episodes. I can understand why it's so gripping and people are fascinated with the show, because I am becoming myself. However, as much as I am really enjoying it I'm finding it REALLY hard to sympathise with Hannah. She's coming across as nothing but an attention seeking, melodramatic, annoying bitch. The first three reasons were all kinda blown out of proportion I thought? Idk I might just be a little insensitive but I can't say I'm feeling a great deal of empathy towards her.

Three episodes left now, I'm enjoying this and think it is rather binge-worthy but some of the tapes are really not worthy of being there.

The one with Zach stealing the compliment cards :umm2:

[Daniel-X]

Also, Sheri is the best character by far :love:

Idc if she's indirectly a murderer.

[JerseyWins]

My friend got me into this a while ago around when it first came out, saying it's so great and getting so much attention/positive reviews... I thought it was alright. Although I've never really liked or watched dramas like that so I guess it's pretty good for what it is.

Some of the tapes were random but I guess it all fit in so meh.

My issue with this show is that I didn't like too many of the characters and that might be what they're trying to achieve but it's not great for watching. I like to have characters that I can root for / support on a show. The only ones I liked were Jeff, Sheri, Justin and I think that was about it.

Jeff </3

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

jess is my fav :love:

[Deirdre]

jess is my fav :love:

same. :love:
https://68.media.tumblr.com/a6f88899ee6ce186be6ceb6dcde8fb74/tumblr_o5k5ks09VA1uzlrgto1_1280.jpg

she'll play a big part in s2 apparently

[Shaun]

Sheri, Tony and the guy Clay is tutoring are the only ones I like :worry: Jessica's ok, and the parents of Hannah are alright.

[JerseyWins]

Oh yeah I was planning to say, but forgot, that I actually think I like most of the adults on this show the most - even though they were kinda featured the least overall. :joker: (although Hannah's parents were featured a lot)

Jess was ok. If I was ranking the cast, she wouldn't be too far behind the few people I actually liked.

[Shaun]

I can't stand Clay's mom & dad. They couldn't have been written more stereotypically if they'd tried.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

tony is the absolute worst

[Daniel-X]

Tony, Justin and Alex are all horrific

[Deirdre]

the dude who played Alex couldn't act for ****

[Shaun]

The odds were pretty stacked against him tbf, portraying a heterosexual

[Ross.]

Sheri, Tony and the guy Clay is tutoring are the only ones I like :worry: Jessica's ok, and the parents of Hannah are alright.

NOT Tony

[Ross.]

Also, Sheri is the best character by far :love:

Idc if she's indirectly a murderer.

This :clap1:

[Shaun]

Welp I didn't see the Jeff thing coming.

I've yet to see reason for the anti-Tony sentiment on here but the ending of E10 had me a little disappointed in him / him being a focal point for this whole "blame culture" thing that's irksome about the show in general.

[Drew.]

the real hero

https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/BtYeuSJK7YNJSs3_rNAoRnVYO5c/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2017/04/05/026/n/1922283/8326a52cfd4a0189_13RW_101_01423R/i/Josh-Hamilton-Mr-Jensen-Clay-Dad.jpg

[Shaun]

i think you'll find it's actually

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8Wz0NiXcAAz1ZA.jpg

[Locke.]

Great show. Tony was the best character. I did like the first few episodes but at the time they seemed a bit mild, although you see at the end how they did all end up leading to what happened. Last couple of episodes were pretty hard to watch at times.

[Brother Leon]

Just Watched it all. The Media and Anyone that's complaining about it glamourising suicide has probably watched one episode. Will dive into it properly later, but it hit me at the moment due to personal experiences.

[reece(:]

Starting this shortly!

[user104658]

I dunno if I should keep going with it? We watched thew first episode and a half but I'm finding the acting... ... straight up bad. And the dialogue, almost unfathomably, even more contrived and unrealistic than Dawson's Creek. Does it improve at all?

[Dominic]

I dunno if I should keep going with it? We watched thew first episode and a half but I'm finding the acting... ... straight up bad. And the dialogue, almost unfathomably, even more contrived and unrealistic than Dawson's Creek. Does it improve at all?

The start is dissapointing, but it gets better and better with every episode.

Also DO NOT shade Dawson's Creek.

[JerseyWins]

I dunno if I should keep going with it? We watched thew first episode and a half but I'm finding the acting... ... straight up bad. And the dialogue, almost unfathomably, even more contrived and unrealistic than Dawson's Creek. Does it improve at all?
The acting kinda stays that way (very cheesy, typically bad acting) but if you can get past that, the show does get a lot better. I thought it was very slow and boring at first (plus the dialogue/acting like you said)... it turned out to be a pretty good show to me though.

[Shaun]

I'd look at it as "The Hollyoaks of Netflix", TS - terrible acting, largely cast of atypical hotties, with ridiculous overreactions, but tackling good issues. Haven't watched the last 3 episodes yet.

[Daniel-X]

I'd look at it as "The Hollyoaks of Netflix", TS - terrible acting, largely cast of atypical hotties, with ridiculous overreactions, but tackling good issues. Haven't watched the last 3 episodes yet.

I haven't watched the last three episodes either and would generally agree with this post.

[Niamh.]

Oh I just realised that the actress who plays Skye is kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgewicks daughter

[Headie]

Halfway through this, is it an unpopular opinion to dislike Clay?

[Dominic]

I found the show to be excellent right after I watched it, but on reflection, after having gone through some mental issues this summer myself, I've come to the realization that it's horrible.

The idea that someone would use suicide as revenge to make people feel guilty forever is ****ing disgusting. Suicide is not revenge. The show doesn't touch the subject of mental illness either.

And Hannah Baker is a hypocritical bitch and the worst example of a mentally ill person. Already mentioned using suicide as revenge. And then I mean, asking Clay to get the **** out, then complaining about him never staying with her? Getting mad Sheri didn't call the cops, but not doing the same when Bryce raped Jessica? Saying the counselor didn't help her, but whenever he asked her anything she made it clear she wants to leave?

[LukeB]

Season 2 May 18th
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[RileyH]

omg omg omg perched :clap1:

[Cal.]

Perched

[Cal.]

Why are they all ugly this time

[JerseyWins]

Nice :clap1:

[Morgan.]

Why are they all ugly this time

They look the same silly

[RileyH]

0XuOkYlUWIs


aaaaah i'm READY :clap1:

[Marsh.]

This bitch just won't stay dead, who's she coming for this time? Selfish cow!

[Ant.]

I'm gonna be watching this 2nd week of June before going onto UKS and OITNB. I'm so excited for June :lovedup:

This bitch just won't stay dead, who's she coming for this time? Selfish cow!

:joker:

[Ross.]

This bitch just won't stay dead, who's she coming for this time? Selfish cow!

:joker:

[Vicky.]

Am watching this now due to having stepdaugther living with me who is generally into American TV...I think this show is so irresponsible tbh. Onto series 2 now, but my god, talk about glamorizing suicide. The whole 'revenge' aspect of it, hell even though the actual death scene was graphic it was still glamorized, and not true to life either. I am so ****ing surprised there were not a string of copycats. I feel the producers were seriously playing with fire

Having said that, I have enjoyed it, though found it quite...disturbing also.

Only watched 2 of the new series, and that seems utter rubbish so far though

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

GARBAGE

[Daniel.]

This is one of my favourite shows now :flutter:

Season 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Season 1