May signs letter to trigger Article 50

[MTVN]

Big day tomorrow with the triggering of Article 50. Theresa May has tonight signed the letter and so this is it, no going back now

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[Kizzy]

Revolting.

[reece(:]

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[Cherie]

:worry:

[MTVN]

I like the Guardian and Times front pages

[Alf]

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[RichardG]

good luck everyone :laugh:

[Marsh.]

I like the Guardian and Times front pages

This.

[the truth]

fandabidosey

[Braden]

I like the Guardian and Times front pages

I was going to say this.

I really like The Guardian's depiction.

[Wizard.]

Here for the funeral

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[the truth]

I like the Guardian and Times front pages

feeling pretty emotional about it....
CRY HAVOC AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF FREEDOM

[Glenn.]

Dover and Out though

[Scarlett.]

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[Marsh.]

Here for the funeral

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/07/article-1274783-097888E6000005DC-963_468x711.jpg

I'm her uneven nipples.

[Denver]

Even better then when Britain won the war

[Withano]

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[Withano]

Even better then when Britain won the war

What an odd thing to say

[the truth]

What an odd thing to say

no its not

[Marsh.]

no its not

yes it is

[Wizard.]

I'm her uneven nipples.

my nipples serving Britain and the EU giving us a hard brexit

[King Gizzard]

The Mail one is a ****ing joke

[Denver]

What an odd thing to say

We fought for our freedom then and we are fighting for our freedom now

[Withano]

We fought for our freedom then and we are fighting for our freedom now

But you implied that this time its worth more. Which is an odd thing to say by anyones standards.
We could debate for days about whats better 'in', or 'out'. I think youd struggle to argue for 'in' being worse than Hitler though lol. Very odd thing to say.

[Denver]

But you implied that this time its worth more. Which is an odd thing to say by anyones standards.
We could debate for days about whats better 'in', or 'out'. I think youd struggle to argue for 'in' being worse than Hitler though lol. Very odd thing to say.

You are just reaching now

[Withano]

Even better then when Britain won the war

You are just reaching now

Hunny, what is this memory loss. You literally implied being out of the EU is even better than Hitler losing the war like fifteen minutes ago.

[Denver]

Hunny, what is this memory loss. You literally implied being out of the EU is even better than Hitler losing the war like fifteen minutes ago.

I never mentioned Hitler

[Denver]

I also didnt mention which war

[Withano]

I never mentioned Hitler

Oh right you meant the war of which channel the Great British Bake Off will be shown on.

[Liberty4eva]

J9DjEY_TJZE

[Withano]

J9DjEY_TJZE

A song about a man who loses everything? Foreshadowing? Bold statement, Liberty...

[Rob!]

Can't wait for the bigots to prove the remoaners wrong :)

[Northern Monkey]

I like The Sun one.Catchy

[Scarlett.]

UK by tomorrow night
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[Marsh.]

I also didnt mention which war

Whichever war you were referring to, it's still an odd thing to suggest.

[the truth]

Whichever war you were referring to, it's still an odd thing to suggest.

Leave the poster display his supreme excitement for brexit , he clearly sees this as the biggest freedom movement for britian since the second world war and I agree....We're taking our country back after 40 years of corruption, waste and tyranny... Hallelujah....Oh and try not to take the poster too literally, try and find a sense of humour

[Black Dagger]

Grim

[Black Dagger]

Grim

[Black Dagger]

Grim

[Liberty4eva]

A song about a man who loses everything? Foreshadowing? Bold statement, Liberty...

You analyze things a bit too much.

[Brillopad]

Can't wait for the bigots to prove the remoaners wrong :)

Can you imagine their faces and the excuses! Momentous!

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[Brillopad]

You analyze things a bit too much.

I think he was hoping there would be a last minute reprieve for the remoaners and the public vote would be ignored. Democracy rules. :dance:

[Jack_]

Or not. :dance:

Glad you agree :elephant:

[Brillopad]

Glad you agree :elephant:

Whoops, read that wrong. Happy days - today is a good day for Britain. :dance:

[ebandit]

............folk chose this direction...now for better or for worse............

...in sickness and health.............................

Mark L

[Jack_]

Whoops, read that wrong. Happy days - today is a good day for Britain. :dance:

No, you definitely read it right. There's no harm in a Freudian slip :cheer2: :cheer2:xfdsfftb

[y.winter]

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[Brillopad]

No, you definitely read it right. There's no harm in a Freudian slip :cheer2: :cheer2:xfdsfftb

I don't do Freudian slips! :hee:

[joeysteele]

Awful day in my opinion, some of those headlines display the worst of the press and more sadly reflect the views of a loud minority of the population and electorate.

I think history will end up recording this as a really bad move and more to the point it is likely to bring to an end too the United Kingdom.

It will be sad watching the UK break up too in time, so this is no day of rejoicing for me.

[Jack_]

I don't do Freudian slips! :hee:

You just did one I'm afraid love :shrug:

[smudgie]

Onwards and upwards.

[Brillopad]

You just did one I'm afraid love :shrug:

Nope, there was no sub-conscious meaning dear just early morning brain freeze. :nono:

[Niamh.]

You just did one I'm afraid love :shrug:

Nope, there was no sub-conscious meaning dear just early morning brain freeze. :nono:

So much affection in serious debates here this morning, it's very heart warming :hehe:

[Withano]

I think he was hoping there would be a last minute reprieve for the remoaners and the public vote would be ignored. Democracy rules. :dance:

You analyse things a bit too much

[Withano]

You analyze things a bit too much.

Remainers in general or just me?
Also, barely? I explained your post at its most basic level lol.

[Northern Monkey]

Apparently the letter has now been delivered.That was quick.Do you think they just photo it and e-mail it?I can't believe Royal Mail got it there that quick.
Unless it gets its own private jet.

[Denver]

Apparently the letter has now been delivered.That was quick.Do you think they just photo it and e-mail it?I can't believe Royal Mail got it there that quick.
Unless it gets its own private jet.

They will ither fax it or sent someone on a plane this morning

[Cherie]

They will either fax it or sent someone on a plane this morning

I doubt such an important document was faxed :laugh:, imagine it lying on the floor of some department when it got swept off the fax by a gush of wind. it would have been probably couriered last night to the UK man in Brussels can't remember his name and he would hand it over personally

[Kizzy]

They will ither fax it or sent someone on a plane this morning

Here is the reply ready to fax!

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[Withano]

Soz guys. Brexit was gonna happen but the fax machine is down.

[Denver]

I would fax it over

[Northern Monkey]

Yeah it's probably in an envelope with the PM's official seal on it.Must've been flown over.Carrier pigeon possibly?

[Josy]

Removed a few posts in here. If your post was one of them you were probably infracted or warned giving you the reason, if not then your post was probably quoting one of the deleted comments.

[Withano]

Interesting article

http://whybrexitisgreat.co.uk/

[Niamh.]

Interesting article

http://whybrexitisgreat.co.uk/

:laugh:

[Marsh.]

he clearly sees this as the biggest freedom movement for britian since the second world war and I agree....

Yeah, Brexit is a bigger scale than contributing to the downfall of Hitler. Yeah, that's not silly at all.

[the truth]

Yeah, Brexit is a bigger scale than contributing to the downfall of Hitler. Yeah, that's not silly at all.

Putting words into his mouth, thats not what he said of course, typical
besides 80 million MEN killed by nazis, but you never ever ever show empathy for men

[Marsh.]

Putting words into his mouth, thats not what he said of course, typical

You said it was the biggest movement for Britain since World War Two, so yes, thet is what he said and what you agreed with. If you don't understand what you're actually saying then choose your words more carefully.

besides 80 million MEN killed by nazis, but you never ever ever show empathy for men

Wow, you're so boring.

[Brillopad]

Interesting article

http://whybrexitisgreat.co.uk/

If only we all had your crystal ball. It seems to me you would rather see Brexit fail just so you can say ' I told you so' rather than be proved wrong which of course would be the desirable outcome for all of us.

We can all speculate but 'experts' on both sides have their point of view so whatever side of the coin you fall no-one knows for sure how successful or not it will be. Keep saying it is a disaster is not fact - just your doom and gloom opinion and achieves ***k all!

[arista]

Interesting article

http://whybrexitisgreat.co.uk/

How Nice

[Withano]

If only we all had your crystal ball. It seems to me you would rather see Brexit fail just so you can say ' I told you so' rather than be proved wrong which of course would be the desirable outcome for all of us.

We can all speculate but 'experts' on both sides have their point of view so whatever side of the coin you fall no-one knows for sure how successful or not it will be. Keep saying it is a disaster is not fact - just your doom and gloom opinion and achieves ***k all!

Thats not true at all. Your crystal ball needs a polish. I shared a funny link because it was funny and relevant. Calm yourself. The only posts I can remember making about Brexit in many months are 'its not as important as the war' and 'why are you sharing a song about a man that loses everything'

My view is (I know you didnt ask but bored of your presumptions)
its kinda like knowing about your surprise birthday party.
I think a lot of people who voted to remain are expecting to show up to their birthday party and see its taking place in a barn, with none of their friends being there
Whilst the people who voted leave are expecting champagne on ice with guest cameos from their favourite celebs
I cant honestly imagine that any of these scenarios will be true, it will likely be somewhere in the middle. I will credit it where its due and fault it where its due, I will also disregard people from both ends that do not, and explain to them why I think they're moronic.

[the truth]

Thats not true at all. Your crystal ball needs a polish. I shared a funny link because it was funny and relevant. Calm yourself. The only posts I can remember making about Brexit in many months are 'its not as important as the war' and 'why are you sharing a song about a man that loses everything'

My view is (I know you didnt ask but bored of your presumptions)
its kinda like knowing about your surprise birthday party.
I think a lot of people who voted to remain are expecting to show up to their birthday party and see its taking place in a barn, with none of their friends being there
Whilst the people who voted leave are expecting champagne on ice with guest cameos from their favourite celebs
I cant honestly imagine that any of these scenarios will be true, it will likely be somewhere in the middle. I will credit it where its due and fault it where its due, I will also disregard people from both ends that do not, and explain to them why I think they're moronic.

eh?

[Withano]

eh?

It was a metaphor hun, nobody is planning you a surprise party.

[the truth]

It was a metaphor hun, nobody is planning you a surprise party.

didnt make sense hun

[Withano]

didnt make sense hun

I'm saying its pointless to make assumptions on Brexit, has been for months now. But I dont think it will be entirely terrible, or entirely brilliant, and I will disregard the opinions of those who believe it to be either of these things, hun. All we can do is credit or fault the information as we get it.

[Northern Monkey]

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[the truth]

I'm saying its pointless to make assumptions on Brexit, has been for months now. But I dont think it will be entirely terrible, or entirely brilliant, and I will disregard the opinions of those who believe it to be either of these things, hun. All we can do is credit or fault the information as we get it.

I agree to the extent that it is unlikely to be one extreme or the other. I also feel the bremainers accusations of racism etc were extreme and should be dismissed as mere slander and osbournes threats of doom and gloom were scaremongering nonsense, whereas the other end of the spectrum was also exaggerated. This is something dianne abbott said shortly after brexit, thus ensuring labour wont win another election for a few generations.

This will have a million and 1 repercussions and , its not written in stone either way and it depends how we play our hand and how we rewrite our laws...that will take years , maybe decades

Since brexit , although this has been 9 months of not having physically left, businesses and politicians across the UK and europe and the world have known we are leaving and the economy has responded very strongly and far stronger in the 9 months than the bremainers predicted....The ftse 100 / 250 and 350 have all increased in value by over 25% thats a remarkable increase in 9 months...The dow jones is the highest ever and risen a record 900 points in trumps first month....thats 100s of billions of value added to the top UK and US companies..unemployment is also down in both countries..the lowest now in 11 years at 4.7%.

The only economic downside so far is a weaker pound, but even that has helped save the steel industry

[user104658]

didnt make sense hun

:shrug: It does.

But what I believe is being said, is that Brexit won't be anywhere near as bad as people who are against it worry it will be, OR anywhere near as good as Brexiteers are championing it to be.

[longstar]

EU won't last another ten years any way, the standard of living have went way down in europe over the last number of years, and the break-up of the EUSSR, is going to happen if you like it or not, poland and hungary are most set to leave in the far future, because merkel has got far to much power in the EU, and because her apple cart has quit the EU, where will she get the 1.5 trillion to support million more refugees who will be staying in germany, we have got out of the worst nightmare that britain has been in for a long time.

[arista]

UK by tomorrow night
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For Chewy
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[Denver]

UKIP need to either change their name and everything its about or disband because they have done the job they wanted

[Northern Monkey]

UKIP need to either change their name and everything its about or disband because they have done the job they wanted

Well their only MP has quit now.They're as fecked as Labour now and we won't even mention the Lib Dems.
Tories forever now

[user104658]

Well their only MP has quit now.They're as fecked as Labour now and we won't even mention the Lib Dems.
Tories forever now

To be honest ALL of the non-Tory parties need to crumble completely and a new viable opposition needs to rise. There are far more people who DON'T want Tory rule than who DO want it (only 37% of the popular vote), the vote of that other 63% just needs to unite behind one alternative.

[Northern Monkey]

To be honest ALL of the non-Tory parties need to crumble completely and a new viable opposition needs to rise. There are far more people who DON'T want Tory rule than who DO want it (only 37% of the popular vote), the vote of that other 63% just needs to unite behind one alternative.

I think a not so left wing more sensible but not Tory light Labour party would be the answer.Corbyn and McDonells politics is a niche market and doesn't appeal to the masses.
Also get rid of that awful Diane Abbott.Putting her on every BBC program as the voice of the Labour party does them no favours.
Some of Corbyns policies are great but then he has this far left mentality on top of that which ruins it.
Watching him on Peston on Sunday the other day(Sunday infact :laugh: ) doing everything he possibly could to avoid answering a question on whether shoot to kill is ever justified against a terrorist.Castrating our nuclear deterrent by saying he'd never launch them and being involved in communist organisations like Stop The War.Labour now has a worse image crisis than the Lib Dems.
I don't think a brand new party would ever gain ground with the red/blue roots so deeply entrenched in England.I know that Labour will always win every election in my area so it's pointless voting.It doesn't matter who is in charge of the party or what they do there may as well only be one option on the polling cards where i live.

[the truth]

I think a not so left wing more sensible but not Tory light Labour party would be the answer.Corbyn and McDonells politics is a niche market and doesn't appeal to the masses.
Also get rid of that awful Diane Abbott.Putting her on every BBC program as the voice of the Labour party does them no favours.
Some of Corbyns policies are great but then he has this far left mentality on top of that which ruins it.
Watching him on Peston on Sunday the other day(Sunday infact :laugh: ) doing everything he possibly could to avoid answering a question on whether shoot to kill is ever justified against a terrorist.Castrating our nuclear deterrent by saying he'd never launch them and being involved in communist organisations like Stop The War.Labour now has a worse image crisis than the Lib Dems.
I don't think a brand new party would ever gain ground with the red/blue roots so deeply entrenched in England.I know that Labour will always win every election in my area so it's pointless voting.It doesn't matter who is in charge of the party or what they do there may as well only be one option on the polling cards where i live.

great post...we desperately need an opposition otherwise it could be 30 years of tories, this labour lot are useless, weasels like abbott will kill them off forever... so 30 years of tories and thats not good for democracy

[joeysteele]

I believe myself the UK now badly needs a proper PR system for electing govts.
That will never come from the Conservative party however.

[the truth]

I still think were infinitely better off under this tory lot than the last labour disaster
however looking into the future, labour will need to start again as will the pitiful lib dems, UKIP and the national parties...all of whom have the most lilly livered slippery wishy washy bunch of spineless charmless hypocrites in charge

[user104658]

I think a not so left wing more sensible but not Tory light Labour party would be the answer.Corbyn and McDonells politics is a niche market and doesn't appeal to the masses.
Also get rid of that awful Diane Abbott.Putting her on every BBC program as the voice of the Labour party does them no favours.
Some of Corbyns policies are great but then he has this far left mentality on top of that which ruins it.
Watching him on Peston on Sunday the other day(Sunday infact :laugh: ) doing everything he possibly could to avoid answering a question on whether shoot to kill is ever justified against a terrorist.Castrating our nuclear deterrent by saying he'd never launch them and being involved in communist organisations like Stop The War.Labour now has a worse image crisis than the Lib Dems.
I don't think a brand new party would ever gain ground with the red/blue roots so deeply entrenched in England.I know that Labour will always win every election in my area so it's pointless voting.It doesn't matter who is in charge of the party or what they do there may as well only be one option on the polling cards where i live.


A true center party with a focus on creating jobs and trade, sensible about benefits for the out-of-work but fit, but generous to children / those with disabilities would almost certainly destroy the Tories. We don't seem to be able to find that middle ground. A party with SENSIBLE and realistic plans for getting people into work / trained / educated if they are able, but that doesn't cruelly nip away at the truly vulnerable the way the Tories have been. I don't really understand why it doesn't exist. I think, partly, the problem is that people are deeply entrenched in the politics of the 20th century and it'll be very hard to drag people away from their "roots" without a complete overhaul of the system.

[the truth]

A true center party with a focus on creating jobs and trade, sensible about benefits for the out-of-work but fit, but generous to children / those with disabilities would almost certainly destroy the Tories. We don't seem to be able to find that middle ground. A party with SENSIBLE and realistic plans for getting people into work / trained / educated if they are able, but that doesn't cruelly nip away at the truly vulnerable the way the Tories have been. I don't really understand why it doesn't exist. I think, partly, the problem is that people are deeply entrenched in the politics of the 20th century and it'll be very hard to drag people away from their "roots" without a complete overhaul of the system.

they also need to destroy political correctness and replace it with THE TRUTH

[user104658]

they also need to destroy political correctness and replace it with THE TRUTH

If you mean people not having to fear legal consequences for speaking their mind, then sure. If you mean that you want right-leaning people to be able to say whatever they want, but then bitch and cry when people "call them names", or there are other natural consequences for it... then no.

[Denver]

they also need to destroy political correctness and replace it with THE TRUTH

I think the last thing we need is The Truth in charge :fan:

[Cherie]

A true center party with a focus on creating jobs and trade, sensible about benefits for the out-of-work but fit, but generous to children / those with disabilities would almost certainly destroy the Tories. We don't seem to be able to find that middle ground. A party with SENSIBLE and realistic plans for getting people into work / trained / educated if they are able, but that doesn't cruelly nip away at the truly vulnerable the way the Tories have been. I don't really understand why it doesn't exist. I think, partly, the problem is that people are deeply entrenched in the politics of the 20th century and it'll be very hard to drag people away from their "roots" without a complete overhaul of the system.

:clap1: why don't some of the MP's disgruntled with Corbyns agenda break away and form a new party... :idc: I guess they are happy to pick up their salaries from the back benches.

[the truth]

If you mean people not having to fear legal consequences for speaking their mind, then sure. If you mean that you want right-leaning people to be able to say whatever they want, but then bitch and cry when people "call them names", or there are other natural consequences for it... then no.

the left never understand free speech...they cant dictate free speech....if we have someone who is chatting **** and being abusive he/she will be shunned and lose their friends and jobs..BUT you cant simply outlaw everything just because the left dont like it. Until the left actually come to terms with this infinite truth they will be in the political wilderness until the end of the world

[Tom4784]

the left never understand free speech...they cant dictate free speech....if we have someone who is chatting **** and being abusive he/she will be shunned and lose their friends and jobs..BUT you cant simply outlaw everything just because the left dont like it. Until the left actually come to terms with this infinite truth they will be in the political wilderness until the end of the world

You don't want Freedom of Speech, you want freedom for those that share your mindset and no one else.

Freedom of Speech is the last thing you believe in.

[Tom4784]

LT0Eqb07KG0

I'm surprised he managed to dislodge himself from Donald Trump's arse for long enough to comment on Brexit.

[arista]

I'm surprised he managed to dislodge himself from Donald Trump's arse for long enough to comment on Brexit.

Dezzy he is very busy
7PM -8PM Mon to Thurs.
Live Shows on LBC Radio

So His mate Trump
is only at Weekends

[joeysteele]

I'm surprised he managed to dislodge himself from Donald Trump's arse for long enough to comment on Brexit.

:joker: Good one.

[the truth]

You don't want Freedom of Speech, you want freedom for those that share your mindset and no one else.

Freedom of Speech is the last thing you believe in.

I disagree 100% but I 100% respect your right to spout this nonsense

[the truth]

I'm surprised he managed to dislodge himself from Donald Trump's arse for long enough to comment on Brexit.

whats wrong with sticking your head up someones arse? its a free world

[Black Dagger]

they also need to destroy political correctness and replace it with THE TRUTH

"You can't call my friend the N word" "PAH BLOODY PC MADNESS, IT'S THE TRUTH" x

[Tozzie]

freedom of speech? Mother nature gave us a tongue. If one is offended, get over it, simple. I've taken offence at many things in my time but just had to get over it and move on. I suppose if we all bite our tongue there won't be any arguments, glory be, perish the thought. People need to 'man up' or should I say 'people up' don't want to be seen as sexist, I might offend *tut*

[the truth]

"You can't call my friend the N word" "PAH BLOODY PC MADNESS, IT'S THE TRUTH" x

that word is illegal and the most offensive to all black people....it doesnt mean the left should therefore ban all free speech and discussion on the back of this one offensive word

[longstar]

EU leaders throwing a temper tantrum now saying that they are planing to break up the united states of america, just shows that their united states of europe dream is over, and now they think that they can bring down america now, I don't think so.

[Northern Monkey]

EU leaders throwing a temper tantrum now saying that they are planing to break up the united states of america, just shows that their united states of europe dream is over, and now they think that they can bring down america now, I don't think so.

What?Who is saying this?That's crazy talk?

[Cherie]

"You can't call my friend the N word" "PAH BLOODY PC MADNESS, IT'S THE TRUTH" x

said nobody ever :umm2:

[Cherie]

Tusk says they won't punish Britain, as Brexit is punative enough :joker: pay up before any talks take place..

[Northern Monkey]

Tusk says they won't punish Britain, as Brexit is punative enough :joker: pay up before any talks take place..

Yeah they want the divorce bill to be first on the agenda.I don't think it will be though as we want to see what our future relationship is going to be before we settle that.
I think that'll be something they keep going back to throughout

[Cherie]

Yeah they want the divorce bill to be first on the agenda.I don't think it will be though as we want to see what our future relationship is going to be before we settle that.
I think that'll be something they keep going back to throughout

if they won't start talks until the bill is paid how is that impasse going to be overcome.

[Kizzy]

The EU has put the future of Gibraltar at stake in the coming Brexit negotiations, effectively backing Spain in its centuries-old dispute with the UK over the British overseas territory.

After lobbying from Spanish diplomats, a clause has been inserted in the EU’s draft Brexit negotiating guidelines that appears to allow Spain to exclude Gibraltar from any transitional single market access arrangement or future trade deal with the UK if it is not satisfied with the status of the territory.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/31/future-of-gibraltar-at-stake-in-brexit-negotiations

[Niamh.]

The EU has put the future of Gibraltar at stake in the coming Brexit negotiations, effectively backing Spain in its centuries-old dispute with the UK over the British overseas territory.

After lobbying from Spanish diplomats, a clause has been inserted in the EU’s draft Brexit negotiating guidelines that appears to allow Spain to exclude Gibraltar from any transitional single market access arrangement or future trade deal with the UK if it is not satisfied with the status of the territory.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/31/future-of-gibraltar-at-stake-in-brexit-negotiations

If they're allowed to do that then we should be allowed have a similar arrangement with NI

[Northern Monkey]

if they won't start talks until the bill is paid how is that impasse going to be overcome.

Well it is a negotiation so i assume.....They're going to negotiate:laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

If they're allowed to do that then we should be allowed have a similar arrangement with NI

That won't happen.I would'nt have thought May would even entertain it.

[Kizzy]

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[longstar]

doubt that spain will get Gibraltar back, because spain has no sovereign powers as a country to take back Gibraltar, because they are members of the EU, and that means its brussels, who call's the shots, when spain get's gibraltar back or not, and the fact that the EU can't demand a high money settlement for britain to leave and then ask for the uk too give back Gibraltar, no way, can the EU get both things, that's to big of a bargan chip for the uk and the EU, the EU has to accept two things, one, let britain leave and give up gibraltar, and not pay a euro coin to brussels, two, uk keeps gibraltar, and pays the big settlement money to leave, and we all know what the EU wants more than ever, and its not some rock that you can't see on a map.

[Cherie]

Well it is a negotiation so i assume.....They're going to negotiate:laugh:


So the UK has to negotiate before they can start to negotiate, so much for EU not having the upper hand :laugh:


doubt that spain will get Gibraltar back, because spain has no sovereign powers as a country to take back Gibraltar, because they are members of the EU, and that means its brussels, who call's the shots, when spain get's gibraltar back or not, and the fact that the EU can't demand a high money settlement for britain to leave and then ask for the uk too give back Gibraltar, no way, can the EU get both things, that's to big of a bargan chip for the uk and the EU, the EU has to accept two things, one, let britain leave and give up gibraltar, and not pay a euro coin to brussels, two, uk keeps gibraltar, and pays the big settlement money to leave, and we all know what the EU wants more than ever, and its not some rock that you can't see on a map.


The EU are flexing their muscles and showing Great Britain just how difficult the process is going to be, they have already scuppered talks starting and I think this is just the beginning of what is in store for May et al

[Northern Monkey]

So the UK has to negotiate before they can start to negotiate, so much for EU not having the upper hand :laugh:





The EU are flexing their muscles and showing Great Britain just how difficult the process is going to be, they have already scuppered talks starting and I think this is just the beginning of what is in store for May et al

You have to remember that the EU doesn't really have the upper hand.They need a good deal with us.We are the EU's largest single export market.EU leaders are under huge pressure from businesses and the electorates of the individual countries to get a good deal with us.All the bluster beforehand will take a backseat i think when it comes down to negotiations.The last thing the EU needs is us to say 'no deal' and walk out.

[Brillopad]

You have to remember that the EU doesn't really have the upper hand.They need a good deal with us.We are the EU's largest single export market.EU leaders are under huge pressure from businesses and the electorates of the individual countries to get a good deal with us.All the bluster beforehand will take a backseat i think when it comes down to negotiations.The last thing the EU needs is us to say 'no deal' and walk out.

I agree with that. Also these bulling tactics from the EU are pretty disgusting in my opinion - the EU are the biggest sulkers and foot stumpers of all. They are determined to try and make an example of the UK in order to scare other countries from opting out. Such desperation does little for their cause in my opinion.

[Niamh.]

Deleted lots of offtopic posts in here, can you all stay ontopic please and drop the word Luv, sweetcheeks etc etc It's baiting now