3 more held in croyden race hate crime.

[Beso]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/01/asylum-seeker-fights-for-life-after-hate-attack-in-london


Diagusting.

[Cherie]

Awful attack on a 17 year old, at least most of the bastards who attcked him are in custody

[smudgie]

Disgusting bunch of cowardly thugs.:fist:
Hope the poor lad makes a full recovery.

[Northern Monkey]

Shocking.8 on 1,Some people have no morals.

[jaxie]

It's great that they are being caught so quickly.

[Cherie]

Shocking.8 on 1,Some people have no morals.

There was a crowd of up to 30 though some were trying to stop it

[arista]

Disgusting bunch of cowardly thugs.:fist:
Hope the poor lad makes a full recovery.


I Agree
smudgie

[Northern Monkey]

There was a crowd of up to 30 though some were trying to stop it

Were the crowd with the 8 who were doing it though?

[Kizzy]

http://www.thecanary.co/2017/04/03/james-obrien-nails-everything-wrong-with-mails-response-croydon-attack-video/

[Tozzie]

what I don't get is how so many set up one him, they must have been like pack animals. Some people stood by and watched. WTH is matter with some people. Horrid excuses for human beings

[Kizzy]

what I don't get is how so many set up one him, they must have been like pack animals. Some people stood by and watched. WTH is matter with some people. Horrid excuses for human beings

Why are you surprised? There were people wanting refugee boats sunk, they were likened to vermin :/

[Tozzie]

Why are you surprised? There were people wanting refugee boats sunk, they were likened to vermin :/

I'm not surprised at all actually Kizzy, the world has become a very ugly place, what I didn't understand is how so many set upon him, it is barbaric what they have done. I've said it before and I'll say it again, as long as we have ugly, vicious and vile people in the world immigration will never work because people such as the ones who carried out this evil deed aren't going to go away. No amount of 'educating' is going to change morons, monsters and demons

[DemolitionRed]

Someone is doing a whip round for this poor lad. I'm going to bung him a tenner

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/17yr-old-asylum-seeker-subject-to-brutal-attack?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socpledgedesktop&utm_content=17yr-old-asylum-seeker-subject-to-brutal-attack&utm_campaign=post-pledge-desktop&utm_term=P6vPJZWgg

[DemolitionRed]

Papers like the Daily Mail have a lot to answer to.

[smudgie]

Someone is doing a whip round for this poor lad. I'm going to bung him a tenner

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/17yr-old-asylum-seeker-subject-to-brutal-attack?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socpledgedesktop&utm_content=17yr-old-asylum-seeker-subject-to-brutal-attack&utm_campaign=post-pledge-desktop&utm_term=P6vPJZWgg

Thanks for the link DR.
I am hoping this fund goes ballistic, show that most people are decent.

[Kizzy]

I'm not surprised at all actually Kizzy, the world has become a very ugly place, what I didn't understand is how so many set upon him, it is barbaric what they have done. I've said it before and I'll say it again, as long as we have ugly, vicious and vile people in the world immigration will never work because people such as the ones who carried out this evil deed aren't going to go away. No amount of 'educating' is going to change morons, monsters and demons

Nope, not with morons, monsters and demons in charge of our govt and media it isn't. :(

[Tom4784]

Why are you surprised? There were people wanting refugee boats sunk, they were likened to vermin :/

Yup and a dead child washing up on a shore is only good for a short supply of sympathy before the public goes back to dehumanising them.

We live in a disgusting world.

[Tozzie]

Yup and a dead child washing up on a shore is only good for a short supply of sympathy before the public goes back to dehumanising them.

We live in a disgusting world.

Luckily most of the general public are decent upstanding people, I have to agree, this world is disgusting to say the least.

[Beso]

Papers like the Daily Mail have a lot to answer to.

Like these bastards read.:joker:

[Beso]

I see most news outlets have stopped calling it a race hate crime now as some of those held are black youths.:fist:

[Cherie]

Were the crowd with the 8 who were doing it though?

some of them were encouraging the beating, some people trying to stop it and some dialing 999, more arrests today

[Cherie]

I see most news outlets have stopped calling it a race hate crime now as some of those held are black youths.:fist:

the irony that their forefathers were immigrants to the UK as well, what a bunch of thickos

[DemolitionRed]

Thanks for the link DR.
I am hoping this fund goes ballistic, show that most people are decent.

it's currently on £28K :blush:

[Niamh.]

That's horrific, the poor kid :(

[Toy Soldier]

Not surprised in the slightest that things like this happen. Not when the mainstream news sources dehumanise and demonise immigrants and asylum seekers on an almost daily basis, and half of the public ****ing celebrate that. This is the end result. We will only see attacks like this increase.

[Northern Monkey]

Kind of arseholes who look for a scrap anywhere they can aslong as their mates are their.Get em on their own and they **** em sens.They need a good kicking in the cells.Or put em in with all the immigrants in prison.

[Northern Monkey]

some of them were encouraging the beating, some people trying to stop it and some dialing 999, more arrests today

Anyone standing their encouraging it is just as bad.
It's not the immigrants fault that immigration is too high.

[Beso]

Not surprised in the slightest that things like this happen. Not when the mainstream news sources dehumanise and demonise immigrants and asylum seekers on an almost daily basis, and half of the public ****ing celebrate that. This is the end result. We will only see attacks like this increase.

We do unfortunatly get attacks from both sides but unfortunatly it only seems to be frothed at the mouth by the news outlets when its brits attacking the asylum seekers.

[Niamh.]

We do unfortunatly get attacks from both sides but unfortunatly it only seems to be frothed at the mouth by the news outlets when its brits attacking the asylum seekers.

I would have said the opposite is true tbh

[DemolitionRed]

Not surprised in the slightest that things like this happen. Not when the mainstream news sources dehumanise and demonise immigrants and asylum seekers on an almost daily basis, and half of the public ****ing celebrate that. This is the end result. We will only see attacks like this increase.

Depressing isn't it.

[Beso]

I would have said the opposite is true tbh

It is NEVER called a race hate crime..sorry but that is just true.

[Niamh.]

It is NEVER called a race hate crime..sorry but that is just true.
No it's a different angle they take implying that immigrants are animals with no regard for our way of life, still a bad portrayl

[Beso]

No it's a different angle they take implying that immigrants are animals with no regard for our way of life, still a bad portrayl

What you need to do is check which crimes are being committed when the papers use such language.

Usually the crime is murder, paedophillia or rape that gets reported in the main stream press when it about anyone that's an immigrant. So the words animal for example could and should be used.


Now this, an uncommon event up and down the towns and cities of britain is given almost 4 or 5 days of news coverage.


Pfft

[Brillopad]

What happened to him was disgusting and those responsible should be suitably punished.

However the actions of a few isolated drunken morons cannot compare with the contrived, barbaric terrorist mass murder of soft targets, including many children, in the West from ISiS and their supporters. We will undoubtedly see considerably more of those kind of attacks. What do some suggest - we bow down to such threats!

[Niamh.]

What you need to do is check which crimes are being committed when the papers use such language.

Usually the crime is murder, paedophillia or rape that gets reported in the main stream press when it about anyone that's an immigrant. So the words animal for example could and should be used.


Now this, an uncommon event up and down the towns and cities of britain is given almost 4 or 5 days of news coverage.


Pfft

Yes but there are plenty of British rapists, paedophiles and murderers as well but not every British person gets labelled as one just because some are

[Livia]

Some people are stupid, I'll give you that. But I think the vast majority of people, including those who read the Daily Mail, are aware of the kind of manipulation that's being spoken about here. This forum does not house the most intelligent people in the country; it's not just people here who are aware that the press is blatant in its manipulation... most people can see it. However, I'd be shocked to the core to find out that those who carried out this attack have ever read a newspaper, let alone the Mail.

[Beso]

Yes but there are plenty of British rapists, paedophiles and murderers as well but not every British person gets labelled as one just because some are

The press dont label them all though.

[Niamh.]

The press dont label them all though.

Yeah they do

[Denver]

COPS investigating a suspected hate crime which left a teenage asylum seeker fighting for his life charged five people this morning.

A teenager suffered a fractured skull and blood clot on his brain after being attacked by up to 30 thugs at a bus stop in Croydon, south-east London.

The victim was chased by a group for about 100 yards into an estate before set upon.

Five people, including two brothers and a brother and sister, appeared in court this morning charged with violent disorder.

Brother and sister Danyelle, 24 and Daryl Davis, 20, of Laurel Crescent, Croydon, are both charged with violent disorder following the attack on the asylum seeker on Friday evening.

Brothers George, 20, and Jack Walder, of Myrtle Road, Croydon are also both charged with violent disorder.

George was additionally charged with racially aggravated grievous bodily harm.

Another man, 20 year old Barry Potts, of Fir Tree Gardens, also faces a charge of violent disorder.

This evening police confirmed Kyran Evans, 23, and a 17-year-old girl had also been charged over the attack.

All five appeared at Croydon Magistrates’ Court this morning and were released on bail apart from George Walder, who will remain in custody until their next court appearance at Croydon Crown Court on May 1.

On Sunday police arrested a 23 year old man and a 17-year-old girl on suspicion of attempted murder and violent disorder.

This morning a 19-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and violent disorder.

Two others, a 20-year-old woman and a 26-year-old man, who were arrested over the weekend were released with no further action this morning.

Detectives today described the attack as “horrendous” and “racially motivated”.

In total 11 people have been arrested, and police have identified five others they want to talk to.

The attack in Croydon, south London, left the victim with a fractured skull and blood clot on the brain.

He was taken to a south London hospital, where he remains. His condition is described as serious but stable, and is not believed to be life-threatening.

The horrific attack on the teenager has sent shockwaves across London and the rest of the UK

The gang involved in the attack have been labelled "scum" by Croydon Central MP Gavin Barwell, while London Mayor Sadiq Khan has also weighed in on the attack to condemn it.

Khan said: "Hate crime has no place in London, Britain or anywhere else.

"Our communities will not be divided by those who seek to sow hate.

"And we will always take a zero tolerance approach to hate crimes of any type.

"Anyone who witnesses a hate crime should report it to the police immediately."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3240716/teen-asylum-seeker-hate-attack-croydon/

[Denver]

Vile disgusting scumbags who should have the same done to them

[MTVN]

Already a thread here: http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318037

[Niamh.]

Already merged Matthew :idc:

[Denver]

Oh it had different titles

[Toy Soldier]

I'd be shocked to the core to find out that those who carried out this attack have ever read a newspaper, let alone the Mail.

That's almost the point, though. They don't read them. They read the sensationalist headlines emblazoned on the newspaper stands and then stomp off muttering about the country going to the dogs. If you actually dig into the articles themselves, towards the end, the sensationalism tends to tail off and you get some actual realistic facts and statistics... ... ... But the sorts of people you're talking about never get that far. They see the big bold scary words and maybe the first couple of sentences, and then make up the rest of the story in their heads, and pass it on to their mates, saying "It's true I saw it in da paper".

[Cherie]

It's interesting that the same people who say it's only a tiny percentage of Muslims support terror attacks can turn around and say that attacks on Asylum seekers and immigrants will be carried out by a large number of the British public which is simply not the case :nono:

[Cherie]

Already merged Matthew :idc:

Top mod :hee:

[Toy Soldier]

It's interesting that the same people who say it's only a tiny percentage of Muslims support terror attacks can turn around and say that attacks on Asylum seekers and immigrants will be carried out by a large number of the British public which is simply not the case :nono:

Who has said that?

[Cherie]

Who has said that?

You and DM

[Toy Soldier]

You and DM

Did I? You'll have to forgive me, I'm becoming rather forgetful in my old age. Where is it? Could you point it out to me?

[Niamh.]

Top mod :hee:

:hee:

[Cherie]

Did I? You'll have to forgive me, I'm becoming rather forgetful in my old age. Where is it? Could you point it out to me?

You are predicting attacks will become more widespread when there is no evidence to back that up. There was a joint Britain First/EDL march in London last week which attracted about 200 people, and that's a week after a terrorist attack, its likely the attack in Croydon was gang related rather than motivated by any patriotic view.


Hate crime reportage might be on the increase but what exactly is being reported, I could ring up and claim you are calling me a thick paddy and that would go down as a hate crime, it's all about keeping perspective on both sides

[Withano]

I love that the crowdfunding page has 44k on it
But only 2.3k contributors? Someone must have donated tens of thousands alone, who was this person/organisation?

[Niamh.]

I love that the crowdfunding page has 44k on it
But only 2.3k contributors? Someone must have donated tens of thousands alone, who was this person/organisation?

If you divide 44k by 2.3k it works out to less than £20

[Withano]

If you divide 44k by 2.3k it works out to less than £20

Yeah I just worked that out after I posted haha

[Withano]

comment from a relative on that funding page is pretty interesting

Friends, I as Rekar's relative we all know that this bad behavior of this group who attacked Rekar doesn't define the vast majority of British people. those people who attacked Rekar and done such a crime are not only hate different religious, ethics and nationalities but they also hate UK itself!! UK government should treat this case as a terror attack!!

[Withano]

The boys mother doesnt even know

I am his relative , his brother just visited him in the Hospital and he phoned me and also told me Rekar is still alive but the wonds made him hopeless and his life is in danger he may lose his memory and mind, and for all of you here i don't dare to tell his mother such a heart breakibg news, she has heart attack if i tell her about Rekar , she may get sick or worse that i pretend ... for all of you who you donated even £1 you really showed up the meaning of humanity!! God bless you all...

[Niamh.]

Yeah I just worked that out after I posted haha

Look before you leap Withano :hehe:

[Withano]

Look before you leap Withano :hehe:

Wont you always be there to catch me?

[Niamh.]

Wont you always be there to catch me?

Of Course :laugh:

[Toy Soldier]

You are predicting attacks will become more widespread when there is no evidence to back that up.

:nono: you claimed that I said;

[QUOTE=Cherie;9272985]attacks on Asylum seekers and immigrants will be carried out by a large number of the British public

That's not the same thing at all. I do not think that a "large number" of the British public will (openly) physically or verbally attack asylum seekers.

I do think that the ever increasing post-Brexit anti-immigration sentiment and rhetoric will filter down into a more hateful population, and a population more accepting of hatred, in which the likelihood of people being attacked by the SMALL number of people inclined to do so will be increased.

[Cherie]

:nono: you claimed that I said;



That's not the same thing at all. I do not think that a "large number" of the British public will (openly) physically or verbally attack asylum seekers.

I do think that the ever increasing post-Brexit anti-immigration sentiment and rhetoric will filter down into a more hateful population, and a population more accepting of hatred, in which the likelihood of people being attacked by the SMALL number of people inclined to do so will be increased.

I don't think so, I think the people who voted Brexit are made up of predominantly of the Doreen and Derek generation who have seen their communities change completely, or whose hip operations have, been cancelled for the 5th time who thought the NHS was going to be minted, People who got on board because of Boris, people who believe the DM, business owners who feel they can be stronger outside Europe, people who voted leave thinking it would never happen, an anti establishment vote, and finally far right voters, the majority of Brexiteers aren't going to give anyone a kicking, they might have a moan down the shops and come home and accept a curry from their neighbour not really putting two and two together that their neighbour is a person they voted to leave...

[Brillopad]

comment from a relative on that funding page is pretty interesting

Friends, I as Rekar's relative we all know that this bad behavior of this group who attacked Rekar doesn't define the vast majority of British people. those people who attacked Rekar and done such a crime are not only hate different religious, ethics and nationalities but they also hate UK itself!! UK government should treat this case as a terror attack!!

According to an article in the Guardian he has no relatives in Britain and the authorities are trying to track down relatives in Iran.

If different papers are getting conflicting information from these so-called 'relatives' how can anything they say be believed. All sounds rather odd.

[Withano]

According to an article in the Guardian he has no relatives in Britain and the authorities are trying to track down relatives in Iran.

If different papers are getting conflicting information from these so-called 'relatives' how can anything they say be believed. All sounds rather odd.

Different papers having conflicting information has never been uncommon lol. The bloke on that funding page said the brother saw him in Hospital.
Although perhaps brother doesnt mean sibling in this context.

[Denver]

According to an article in the Guardian he has no relatives in Britain and the authorities are trying to track down relatives in Iran.

If different papers are getting conflicting information from these so-called 'relatives' how can anything they say be believed. All sounds rather odd.

Was there not picture of him and his brother in England which suggests his brother lives here

[Brillopad]

Was there not picture of him and his brother in England which suggests his brother lives her

I don't know, I did see a picture of someone supposed to be his brother in a DM article but a different story in the Guardian.

Maybe the so-called family are giving mixed messages, which seems strange. Don't know what to think tbh.

[DemolitionRed]

I don't know, I did see a picture of someone supposed to be his brother in a DM article but a different story in the Guardian.

Maybe the so-called family are giving mixed messages, which seems strange. Don't know what to think tbh.

More likely the reporters are getting inaccurate messages from his friends and colleagues.

[Brillopad]

More likely the reporters are getting inaccurate messages from his friends and colleagues.

Possibly, but with all the issues with asylum seekers across Europe maybe the inconsistencies are coming from them and if so why? A lot of child asylum seekers have lied about their age for instance - I just find it a bit suspicious.

What happened to him was terrible but that doesn't mean he and his 'family' are beyond reproach.

There may be a reasonable explanation but I would like to know what that is.

[Withano]

There may be a reasonable explanation but I would like to know what that is.

Modern media is untrustworthy? Their main source of revenue is online advertisements? the easiest way to get this is to create a **** load of articles? The fastest way to do this is by doing little research? The most effective way to do this is with clickbaity titles?
No wait. Must be something to do with the asylum seekers dodgy family.

[Brillopad]

Modern media is untrustworthy? Their main source of revenue is online advertisements? the easiest way to get this is to create a **** load of articles? The fastest way to do this is by doing little research? The most effective way to do this is with clickbaity titles?
No wait. Must be something to do with the asylum seekers dodgy family.

Of course, it couldn't possibly be the asylum seeker and/or his family - how could anyone possibly even wonder about that. :shrug:

[Livia]

Of course, the question could be, we are not at war with Iran, why are we giving Iranians asylum?

[Brillopad]

Of course, the question could be, we are not at war with Iran, why are we giving Iranians asylum?

Good point.