US launches Tomahawk missiles at Syrian airbase!!

[Northern Monkey]

Oh ****!
The US has carried out a missile attack against targets in Syria in response to a suspected chemical weapons attack on a rebel-held town.
A Pentagon official said about 50 Tomahawk cruise missiles were fired at a Syrian air base.
Earlier, US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad should have no role in a future Syria.
His comments signalled a sudden shift in policy by the new US administration.
Syria war: US launches missile strikes following chemical 'attack'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39523654

[Rob!]

Oh Christ.

This coming from a president who has been nothing short of ambivalent towards the civil war and Assad's games over the past few years.

[Shaun]

I thought Trump was going to avoid WW3 :think:

[Denver]

Oh Christ.

This coming from a president who has been nothing short of ambivalent towards the civil war and Assad's games over the past few years.

Apparently it was the videos of the kids that broke him

[Rob!]

Social media going insane at the minute crying that World War III is about to begin.

[Denver]

Syria dont have the means to start a war and they wont have the allies will to start one for them

[Brother Leon]

Just what the Syrian people need. More explosions and foreign meddling. My heart breaks for them.

[Denver]

Just what the Syrian people need. More explosions and foreign meddling. My heart breaks for them.

So y8u would rather their government kill thousands of innocent the people ?

[Northern Monkey]

Better hope there were no Russian aircraft at that base and that they weren't hit.59 missiles were apparently launched to take out the airbase that the chemical weapon attack was launched from.

[Brother Leon]

So y8u would rather their government kill thousands of innocent the people ?

It's a ****ed up situation created in large part due to foreign meddling in the first place. What do you think is going to happen when the Syrian Army keeps getting bombed? Jihadists rejoice and push through and kill innocent people of their own. It's delusional to think otherwise.

Trump should have took his own advice..

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[jaxie]

I think war is the most dumb event mankind participates in. No one wins. The innocent lose most of all. But at least someone has done something that sends a message that the chemical weapons are not ok and there are consequences rather than all sitting around saying isn't that terrible while they do it again. Let's not forget this is not the first time. This is a no win situation but do nothing and you comply. There has been a lot of doing nothing. It's a dreadful situation. One wonders if Kim Jong Un has a little poop in his panties tonight.

[arista]

David Cameron
in 2013 wanted to do this
but Labour Party blocked them.

[arista]

"Trump should have took his own advice.."

Yes , but he can change his mind.

[Kazanne]

And so the mass panic begins,no one wants a war and it was fully backed by the UK,it was one strike at an airfield believed to have been where the chemical weapons were fired, I see nothing wrong with people in power doing UTurns it shows they are willing to listen to people and change their minds,better that than sticking to something that could be wrong.It's hard to say what is right sitting back and watching innocents die or trying to sort it out.

[Northern Monkey]

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[Northern Monkey]

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[Beso]

At last we have someone with the bollocks to act.

[Northern Monkey]

US airstrikes on Syria come just hours after Hillary Clinton called for bombing of Assad's airfields.

Hillary Clinton called for the United States to bomb Syrian air fields just hours before Donald Trump ordered the airstrike.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/syria-airstrike-trump-hillary-clinton-10175877.amp

[user104658]

US airstrikes on Syria come just hours after Hillary Clinton called for bombing of Assad's airfields.

Hillary Clinton called for the United States to bomb Syrian air fields just hours before Donald Trump ordered the airstrike.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/syria-airstrike-trump-hillary-clinton-10175877.amp
Hmh. This really does just confirm that it doesn't actually matter who wins these elections... Global events are like a tidal force, and will go the way they are going regardless.

[Livia]

About time someone did something, how sad that it ended up being Trump. Assad could have been ousted years ago... but we voted against action. How many children have died since then? How many communities have been gassed? Was it worth it?

[Brother Leon]

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[waterhog]

debated on wrightstuff - just watching now - apparently ever caller in was against us stepping in ?

[Livia]

debated on wrightstuff - just watching now - apparently ever caller in was against us stepping in ?

Every caller who's sitting at home and watching telly on a Thursday morning. Presumably they're okay with Assad's continued genocide, then? If gassing women and children don't make us step in, what will? I do not relish us getting involved but sometimes something happens that calls for it.

[MTVN]

So much for Trump being Putins poodle and doing whatever he said then, he has now done more to piss off the Russians in a few hours than Obama did in eight years

[jaxie]

About time someone did something, how sad that it ended up being Trump. Assad could have been ousted years ago... but we voted against action. How many children have died since then? How many communities have been gassed? Was it worth it?

I wonder if Miliband can sleep at night. It was him who played politics with it.

[user104658]

Realistically, Russia isn't going to enter into any sort of major conflict with the US over Assad / Syria. Putin isn't Kim Jong-Un... Syria simply isn't important enough to Russia to essentially commit national / global suicide, you don't blow your load over a political pawn. They won't be happy, though, and whilst not triggering it, it will edge further towards Cold War Mk.II.

Like I said before though there's very little point in talking about Obama / Clinton / Trump here. The President is not calling the shots on issues like these ffs, surely we're all old enough and wise enough to realise that? The fact that it's gone this way under Trump, after all of his rhetoric around Russian relations, is for me 100% proof of that. Puppets and talking heads, that's all we elect. They have sway over domestic political issues and the everyday running of the country... ... ... they are not the ones deciding when and where the world goes to war. Those people don't go on TV and twitter. You wouldn't know those people if you passed them in the street. And that's how they want it.

[MTVN]

Well clearly the President does have a say given that Obama refused to carry out strikes against the Syrian government for years yet they have now been targeted only weeks into Trump's presidency

[user104658]

Well clearly the President does have a say given that Obama refused to carry out strikes against the Syrian government for years yet they have now been targeted only weeks into Trump's presidency

Yes if you believe the narrative that it was actually Obama's decision, or Trump's decision. It is 100% my belief (and IMO fairly obvious) that these strikes would have occurred on the same day, at the same time, had Clinton been president.

[user104658]

If you believe that Trump suddenly did a 100% U-turn on the issue after seeing some youtube videos of children suffering the aftereffects of nerve gas, completely on his own with no one whispering in his ear... well... there's not much I can say. If that's the world you believe in now, that's the world you will always believe in :shrug:.

[MTVN]

Yes because Trump is clearly an unstable and volatile personality who is prone to changing his mind constantly, it was always clear during his campaign that he was going to be very unpredictable. If you want further incentive you might say he was trying to rescue his opinion polls or appease the hawks in the Republican party in exchange for their support on other issues

There are numerous reasons why he has performed this u turn that make more sense than your theory which has little logic and no evidence to it

[Brother Leon]

Looking online and Trump has lost a lot of faith and support from his core fanbase. Bizarre to see his group turning on him and some Liberals actually praising him at the moment.

[Brother Leon]

I'll just leave this here

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[user104658]

Yes because Trump is clearly an unstable and volatile personality who is prone to changing his mind constantly, it was always clear during his campaign that he was going to be very unpredictable. If you want further incentive you might say he was trying to rescue his opinion polls or appease the hawks in the Republican party in exchange for their support on other issues

There are numerous reasons why he has performed this u turn that make more sense than your theory which has little logic and no evidence to it

There's "little logic" in saying that it's unlikely that one elected individual has major control over global political events? Kay.

[Northern Monkey]

Hmh. This really does just confirm that it doesn't actually matter who wins these elections... Global events are like a tidal force, and will go the way they are going regardless.

Exactly what i was thinking.Once a path is set it doesn't matter which puppet is getting their strings pulled.

[Tom4784]

I hope we don't get involved, it's not our place to police the world and we're in a precarious period of change atm. I don't think we should do anything that risks putting us into a potential war unless there's a direct threat posed to us. I think we should carry on sending aid (I assume we are already) and do what we can for the citizens but I don't think the militaristic option is a good one for the moment.

[Northern Monkey]

I hope we don't get involved, it's not our place to police the world and we're in a precarious period of change atm. I don't think we should do anything that risks putting us into a potential war unless there's a direct threat posed to us. I think we should carry on sending aid (I assume we are already) and do what we can for the citizens but I don't think the militaristic option is a good one for the moment.

I hope so too.The problem is that we're already in the area conducting missions in Syria and Iraq and we have an airbase within spitting distance in Cyprus.If **** gets real and Russia retaliates then its hard to see how we wouldn't get involved.There's already British,French,US,Syrian and Russian jets up there coming into contact quite often.Scary.

[user104658]

This cold war just got hot.

.. Hiiighway to tha daynger zone, neh-neh-err gonna take you riiight into... The daynger-zooooone.

[Northern Monkey]

Russian foreign minister was saying just after the airstrike there was a ground offensive against Syrian ground forces by Al Nusra and ISIS.They're saying "they hope it wasn't coordinated"

Also saying that Syrian air defences will be increased.

[Brother Leon]

Russian foreign minister was saying just after the airstrike there was a ground offensive against Syrian ground forces by Al Nusra and ISIS.They're saying "they hope it wasn't coordinated"

Also saying that Syrian air defences will be increased.

Wasn't coordinated, but anyone can see this coming. The happiest about this are IS,Nusra and Al Qaeda... just as they were all on the backfoot and losing hope, they get this present.

[Tozzie]

Assad can't continue the atrocities he has been carrying out, someone had to step in.

[UserSince2005]

Thank god someone has finally stood up to the butcher assad.

Trump is a true man, unlike pussy boy obama.

clear and sharp message to the syrians and russians, stop your ****e or more strikes occur.

[Brother Leon]

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Interesting "rebel" groups supporting Trump..


https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/hamiltonsociety/pages/380/attachments/original/1390590702/DoranMcCantsWatts_TheGoodandBad.jpg?1390590702

[jaxie]

850160538105655298

Interesting "rebel" groups supporting Trump..


https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/hamiltonsociety/pages/380/attachments/original/1390590702/DoranMcCantsWatts_TheGoodandBad.jpg?1390590702

Does it matter if it helps stop them gassing children?

[Brother Leon]

Does it matter if it helps stop them gassing children?

No, but this strike isn't going to magically prevent any of that. That airbase was predominantly used to fight off Isis and to prevent Israel from invading their airspace constantly. That is what will be effected..not the use of chemical attacks.

Besides, What about the Children killed by USA air strikes on a Mosque just 10 days ago? Or the several innocent kids killed by Obama drones? Or Yemeni children being kill d by Western Allie Saudi Arabia? Who's going to police all that seeing as suddenly America can't stand for any of this? It's going to cause more trouble than help.

[user104658]

Wasn't coordinated, but anyone can see this coming. The happiest about this are IS,Nusra and Al Qaeda... just as they were all on the backfoot and losing hope, they get this present.
That's the problem really. More likely to be opportunistic than coordinated, but the elephant in the room remains, remove Assad and those waiting to step into the power vacuum aren't any better. Hussein was abhorrent just like Assad, he butchered innocent people in similar ways... But removing him only made matters worse for the civilian population. From living in fear in a functional nation to living in fear in a bombed out shell. Mess.

[Alf]

The only winners here are ISIS.

[Tom4784]

No, but this strike isn't going to magically prevent any of that. That airbase was predominantly used to fight off Isis and to prevent Israel from invading their airspace constantly. That is what will be effected..not the use of chemical attacks.

Besides, What about the Children killed by USA air strikes on a Mosque just 10 days ago? Or the several innocent kids killed by Obama drones? Or Yemeni children being kill d by Western Allie Saudi Arabia? Who's going to police all that seeing as suddenly America can't stand for any of this? It's going to cause more trouble than help.

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[UserSince2005]

People on this forum are sick.

Watch thevideo of the kids dying.

horrible

people on here seem to want them dead, by the choice of turning a blind eye

sick.

[user104658]

The middle east has been used as a tug of war chewtoy by the US and Russia for half a century or more, is the simple fact. All of this is just confirmation that the existence of ISIS has taught them nothing.

People blame Islam or say that the people involved in terrorist attacks are simply monsters but step back for a second. We see these videos every day at the moment, of families and children who are not "other", they look like they could be your next door neighbour, and they're lying there killed by gas or bombs, parents wailing over them... I find myself having to be brutally honest and say... If that was my children lying dead on the ground, I am as certain as I can be that I would become a "monster" too. Does that make me a "sympathiser"? I don't know. I do know that if I wasn't dead too, I wouldn't be human any more.

[user104658]

People on this forum are sick.

Watch thevideo of the kids dying.

horrible

people on here seem to want them dead, by the choice of turning a blind eye

sick.

Crock of **** right there bud.

It's not about turning a blind eye. In fact, at this point I don't know WHAT the answer is, but in hindsight it's pretty obvious who is ultimately responsible for the various horrendous situations that middle eastern countries are in today. What is the answer for those children? Probably getting them the hell out of there and into safer countries. But Ohhh no, we don't want THAT either, do we. We don't want them dead but, yuck, we don't want them turning up on our doorsteps either.

Their situation as it stands? There is no way to help. If we leave Assad to do as he wants, they are ****ed by Assad himself . If we bomb the country back to the stone age to remove Assad, they are ****ed by a destroyed infrastructure and the inevitable rise of brutal extremists who will exploit the willing and kill the unwilling.

There is no winning, here.

[DemolitionRed]

According to some sources, the airfield strike did not damage Syrian aircraft or ordinance, and will not impair their ability to use their air power. Russian forces were informed of the strike beforehand, and it is presumed they informed the Assad regime as well.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/airstrike-carried-out-so-it-wouldnt-hurt-russias-long-term-plans-in-syria-us-military-official/

According to the Independent, Trumps biggest fans desert him over Syrian air strikes.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-airstrikes-syria-assad-infowars-train-fans-polls-numbers-falling-a7671601.html

[user104658]

According to some sources, the airfield strike did not damage Syrian aircraft or ordinance, and will not impair their ability to use their air power. Russian forces were informed of the strike beforehand, and it is presumed they informed the Assad regime as well.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/airstrike-carried-out-so-it-wouldnt-hurt-russias-long-term-plans-in-syria-us-military-official/

According to the Independent, Trumps biggest fans desert him over Syrian air strikes.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-airstrikes-syria-assad-infowars-train-fans-polls-numbers-falling-a7671601.html
Hmm. Convenient.

[Northern Monkey]

According to some sources, the airfield strike did not damage Syrian aircraft or ordinance, and will not impair their ability to use their air power. Russian forces were informed of the strike beforehand, and it is presumed they informed the Assad regime as well.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/airstrike-carried-out-so-it-wouldnt-hurt-russias-long-term-plans-in-syria-us-military-official/

According to the Independent, Trumps biggest fans desert him over Syrian air strikes.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-airstrikes-syria-assad-infowars-train-fans-polls-numbers-falling-a7671601.htmlYeah the Russian military were informed just before so they could presumably get off the base.Now whether the Russians informed the Syrians who knows.Not all the missiles hit though due to Syrian anti air defences(provided by Russia).

[DemolitionRed]

Yeah the Russian military were informed just before so they could presumably get off the base.Now whether the Russians informed the Syrians who knows.Not all the missiles hit though due to Syrian anti air defences(provided by Russia).

What about the planes and the airstrip? According to pictures, no planes have been damaged and the airstrip runway is still intact. 50 of those missiles could of taken out an entire city. Why so little damage?

[user104658]

What about the planes and the airstrip? According to pictures, no planes have been damaged and the airstrip runway is still intact. 50 of those missiles could of taken out an entire city. Why so little damage?
Trump is in his 70's, his little spurt has probably lost a lot of its potency. Sure, a younger, more virile president could have wiped out a city with those missiles but Trump's were like a handful of firecrackers. It's not his fault.

[Brillopad]

Trump is in his 70's, his little spurt has probably lost a lot of its potency. Sure, a younger, more virile president could have wiped out a city with those missiles but Trump's were like a handful of firecrackers. It's not his fault.

A nice bit of ageism to start the day. As I have said before there seems to be a hierarchy of isms on here - some you can laugh and joke about, whilst others you dare not breath their names for fear of on OTT negative response and the feeling of having to 'run for cover'.

[user104658]

A nice bit of ageism to start the day. As I have said before there seems to be a hierarchy of isms on here - some you can laugh and joke about, whilst others you dare not breath their names for fear of on OTT negative response.
Feel The Force.

[Brillopad]

Feel The Force.

I feel it - thing is it has a tendency to set me off. And so it goes on? Double standards have a way of doing that! Bit of a puzzle that!!!!

[Northern Monkey]

What about the planes and the airstrip? According to pictures, no planes have been damaged and the airstrip runway is still intact. 50 of those missiles could of taken out an entire city. Why so little damage?

From your link-

'The official also told Babb the Tomahawk cruise missiles used in the raid were precision, and not cratering, to minimize damage.

The same official told Babb the airstrike hit a couple dozen Syrian military aircraft, ammunition storage facilities and other airbase infrastructure.

No chemical weapons were hit during the strike, the official said.'


Also 50 Tomahawk's wouldn't anywhere near take out a city.They're only 1000lb bombs.
The first 24 hour barrage of the Iraq war was 500 Tomahawks and even that alone did'nt take out a city.
There were big 2000lb bombs and other cruise missiles launched from bombers.

[user104658]

I feel it - thing is it has a tendency to set me off. And so it goes on? Double standards have a way of doing that! Bit of a puzzle that!!!!

It's called "triggering". I feel for you. The mods will set you up a safe space.

[Beso]

Drop a nuke on the ****hole.

[arista]

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https://d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/QzthSwiSXOI6myNzdQEQ_The%20Times%20April%208.JPG
Clash - yes its been that way for decades.

https://d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/1yut5No1SFa7mABDQkOi_Guardian%20April%208.JPG
Well , Trump
you only killed around 5 people.

[Brillopad]

It's called "triggering". I feel for you. The mods will set you up a safe space.

Nah, not my thing. I don't need a safe space unlike all those soppy uni students today. I guess they have too much time on their hands.

[DemolitionRed]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/08/syrian-warplanes-take-air-base-bombed-us-tomahawks/
Syrian warplanes took off from the air base hit by US cruise missiles yesterday to carry out bombing raids on rebel-held areas, in a defiant show of strength.

[Kizzy]

Nah, not my thing. I don't need a safe space unlike all those soppy uni students today. I guess they have too much time on their hands.

Ageism?.....

Damn those young people for wanting a world to mature in :fist:

[Kizzy]

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[DemolitionRed]

_LKsn4ZutxQ

We have to take on board everything that comes out of an experts mouth and that includes all sides. Its the difference between seeing a flat square or a whole cube.

[Beso]

Storing chemucal weapons miles from an airfield and under your own sides noses is a stupid place to store chemical weapons...isis are not stupid.

[Northern Monkey]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/08/syrian-warplanes-take-air-base-bombed-us-tomahawks/
Syrian warplanes took off from the air base hit by US cruise missiles yesterday to carry out bombing raids on rebel-held areas, in a defiant show of strength.

Hopefully that doesn't trigger Trump again.Don't want him doing it again.

[DemolitionRed]

Hopefully that doesn't trigger Trump again.Don't want him doing it again.

Yeah well I think its going to get worse before it gets better

[Northern Monkey]

_LKsn4ZutxQ

Agree with that guy.Trump acted quickly and emotionally before any investigation was carried out.We just don't know.Unless the US military know something that has'nt been released.Although you'd think if there was evidence then they'd release it.
He is right about the rebels possibly using chemical weapons to provoke the US into more action too.It's a mess.
I support action against ISIS but the situation has changed way beyond dethroning Assad now.That ship sailed when Russia got involved.

[Northern Monkey]

Yeah well I think its going to get worse before it gets better

Unfortunately i don't think it is going to get better.

[DemolitionRed]

Storing chemucal weapons miles from an airfield and under your own sides noses is a stupid place to store chemical weapons...isis are not stupid.

I would question if its ISIS. There was a documentary on the other night from inside Iraq. (channel 4 Thurs night 22:00) It showed there is nothing left of ISIS in Iraq and now the rebel forces are killing Sunni Muslims en masse. According to the West, there are still around 30,000 ISIS fighters in Iraq but this clearly isn't true.

I think ISIS are probably now playing a very small part in what's happening in Syria but because we, the western public can relate terror to this one group, the media are still using its name. We really don't know who the rebel forces are any more; there are so many of them that as one lot die out, the next take over... and so it goes on.

[Beso]

I would question if its ISIS. There was a documentary on the other night from inside Iraq. (channel 4 Thurs night 22:00) It showed there is nothing left of ISIS in Iraq and now the rebel forces are killing Sunni Muslims en masse. According to the West, there are still around 30,000 ISIS fighters in Iraq but this clearly isn't true.

I think ISIS are probably now playing a very small part in what's happening in Syria but because we, the western public can relate terror to this one group, the media are still using its name. We really don't know who the rebel forces are any more; there are so many of them that as one lot die out, the next take over... and so it goes on.

I just love it when one ch4 documentary suddenly turns out to be the one and only thing we should be believing.:joker:

[Kizzy]

I remember the news during the gulf war hearing the Sunni Muslims were against Shia, it's been going on for a generation.... How can you not know this?
You can't mock others by flaunting your own ignorance.

[Livia]

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[DemolitionRed]

I just love it when one ch4 documentary suddenly turns out to be the one and only thing we should be believing.:joker:

You can mock that programme all you want and if you want to continue believing everything popular media feeds you... rock right on.

[DemolitionRed]

An Iranian reporter in Iraq is good enough for me. Why would a Shiite Muslim reporter lie about what the Shiites are doing to the Sunni's?

[user104658]

If I read the papers I would give 2 ****s but i don't so i don't.

Popular media, like a C4 documentary! In the words of TS, you need to look for another cock to suck this weekend.
I think calling C4 "popular" at this point is a bit of a stretch. They break out the champagne if they get over 600k viewers :umm2:.

I agree with the sentiment overall though, I wouldn't trust any documentary any more than I'd trust the mainstream rags. Well, maybe a little more, but not much. At the end of the day you're still looking at the way someone else has pieced together an elaborate jigsaw, without having a chance to look at the pieces for yourself.

[DemolitionRed]

This is an interesting source from Syrian Arab News
http://sana.sy/en/?p=103798

What its suggesting is, there needs to be a full investigation for this chemical attack and that nobody, including the U.S can point a finger at anyone until that investigation is done. It also suggests that the U.S is not destroying ISIS but using ISIS as an excuse to go in and target the Assad regime.

It also states that Khan Sheikhoun is under the control of Jabhat al-Nusra terror organization, but there are western attempts to hide that, adding that it’s not a coincidence that reports about terrorists stockpiling chemical weapons and using them against civilians are being ignored. In doing so the U.S are in violation of the UN Charter.

[Brillopad]

Ageism?.....

Damn those young people for wanting a world to mature in :fist:

What is this world you think they want to mature in?

[Kizzy]

What is this world you think they want to mature in?

This one obv... :/

[Kizzy]

That's what happens when one side is constantly silenced, they give up in the end :idc:

Shut it Cherie!! :fist:

[Scarlett.]

This is proof Trump needs to be impeached, all his other misdeeds are nothing compared to this act of stupidity

[Kizzy]

And nobody anywhere was surprised...

It has become something of a cliche for Whitehall to reassure British citizens that it has “one of the most robust arms export controls in the world”. It is the stock response civil servants, press officers and ministers turn to when asked about arms sales to human rights abusers or conflict zones, and was used in 2013 when confronted about the decision to grant licences for the sale of chemicals to Syria that could have been used in the production of nerve gas.

Thankfully the licences were revoked, after a Europe-wide embargo. However, there is little doubt that UK-produced chemicals sold to Syria in the past have been used in the production of weapons.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/11/syria-nerve-gas-uk-arms-trade

[Northern Monkey]

Nato should be concentrating on ISIS along with Russia.However brutal Assad is he should not be the target now.That time has passed now.Regime change should now be off the table.
Wiping ISIS out should be the mission for now.
Hopefully Trump is not going for regime change and this was a one off to show that what he says has teeth unlike Obama who said chemical weapons were a "red line" and did nothing and in the process made the US look weak.
Maybe this was a warning to China that he means business and his real target is North Korea.
Or maybe,The scariest option and the one that is supposed to be the truth.He was emotionally overcome by the images of gassed children and reacted to what he saw.That is the most frightening option because it means that he is very easy to manipulate into emotive actions and shows a lack of control.
These terrorist groups have been known to use chemical weapons and have stockpiles.
They can use them whenever they want to call in a US airstrike if the official line and most terrifying version of events is true.

However none of this says very much for Trumps supposed anti interventionist ideology.

[Brillopad]

This is proof Trump needs to be impeached, all his other misdeeds are nothing compared to this act of stupidity

If impeachment is justified, which it isn't, the powers that be will do so, but for Trump haters to use this, or anything else, to get him out is pathetic.

[DemolitionRed]

Nato should be concentrating on ISIS along with Russia.However brutal Assad is he should not be the target now.That time has passed now.Regime change should now be off the table.
Wiping ISIS out should be the mission for now.



I agree, though I believe ISIS are being wiped by something much bigger than them and that our intervention isn't worth much at all.


Hopefully Trump is not going for regime change and this was a one off to show that what he says has teeth unlike Obama who said chemical weapons were a "red line" and did nothing and in the process made the US look weak.
Maybe this was a warning to China that he means business and his real target is North Korea.
Or maybe,The scariest option and the one that is supposed to be the truth.He was emotionally overcome by the images of gassed children and reacted to what he saw.That is the most frightening option because it means that he is very easy to manipulate into emotive actions and shows a lack of control.
These terrorist groups have been known to use chemical weapons and have stockpiles.
They can use them whenever they want to call in a US airstrike if the official line and most terrifying version of events is true.

However none of this says very much for Trumps supposed anti interventionist ideology.

I think what we have to accept is, whatever president had got into America, the same thing would of happened. This isn't about Trump, its about western domination so regardless of how Trump feels, his cohorts and other internal pressures will of pushed him towards 'The American Goal'. There was always going to be some things Trump didn't have a choice with and this was one of them.

[Livia]

I'd like to see the West pull out of the Middle East all together. Leave them to it. And as the West removes their arms and troops, also remove the humanitarian aid because that seems to be forgotten while the West is being generally slagged off.

Pull our people out of the Middle East - it certainly would make my job easier and I'd do much less travelling - and revisit it after it's become a large, smoking crater.

[Brillopad]

I'd like to see the West pull out of the Middle East all together. Leave them to it. And as the West removes their arms and troops, also remove the humanitarian aid because that seems to be forgotten while the West is being generally slagged off.

Pull our people out of the Middle East - it certainly would make my job easier and I'd do much less travelling - and revisit it after it's become a large, smoking crater.

Not to mention there no boundaries and aid workers are used as pawns and attacked.

I have mixed feelings, but generally inclined to agree. - why should our brave men and women be sacrificed for what is essentially a lost cause. Nothing ever changes.

[the truth]

a classical US-executed false flag
a Syrian strike on a location which happened to be storing some kind of gas, possibly chlorine, but most definitely not sarin. This option requires you to believe in coincidences. I don’t. Unless,
the US fed bad intelligence to the Syrians and got them to bomb a location where the US knew that toxic gas was stored.

[Kizzy]

a classical US-executed false flag
a Syrian strike on a location which happened to be storing some kind of gas, possibly chlorine, but most definitely not sarin. This option requires you to believe in coincidences. I don’t. Unless,
the US fed bad intelligence to the Syrians and got them to bomb a location where the US knew that toxic gas was stored.

Of course it's sarin... how do we know? We sold them it!!!