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UserSince2005
13-04-2017, 09:11 AM
It could be so good,

But im fed up of the editors making up stories lines and then the decisions the houseguest make dont reflect the storyline that they just built up.

Obviously, they are doing it for entertainment, and it is entertaining, but then its such a complete let down when it turns out the storyline was all fake and dramatised.

Wizard.
13-04-2017, 09:38 AM
Yeah I agree. Why do they edit it to make it seem like something good is going to happen, but then it's all a complete let down when the live feeders know what's really going on. It damages the show long term because casual viewers will switch off for that kind of sh*t.

UserSince2005
13-04-2017, 10:10 AM
Yeah I agree. Why do they edit it to make it seem like something good is going to happen, but then it's all a complete let down when the live feeders know what's really going on. It damages the show long term because casual viewers will switch off for that kind of sh*t.

Im not watching the live feeds :(

I bet that gives a whole different perspective.

RichardG
13-04-2017, 10:25 AM
i haven't started watching it yet bc i hear bad reviews

i stopped watching last year's season half way through as i thought that one was terrible

the first three seasons were so good but i think i'm over it now

reece(:
13-04-2017, 10:25 AM
I agree, gave up on it last week.

Tregard
13-04-2017, 10:32 AM
The Six have neutered this season's first half, all it would take is one larger move to tilt the house, but it's just not happening

Jamie89
13-04-2017, 04:59 PM
It's not a great series but it's not that bad either, it's still better than an average or bad series of BBUK, and I enjoy the actual game of BBCAN so it's still interesting to watch even if people I like get evicted (although yeah it'd be much better if that didn't happen). There's still a lot of HM's I'm enjoying though, it's only really Kevin, Dillon, Bruno and Emily I don't like watching (and one of Dillon/Emily is going tomorrow anyway, so)

DouglasS
13-04-2017, 05:17 PM
Ika is kinda to blame for the series being so bad. If she had balls it could have been so good, with such an interesting divide, a very bad casting decision sadly.

Cal.
13-04-2017, 10:01 PM
Ironically Ika has been the best houseguest whilst simultaneously ruining the season

DouglasS
13-04-2017, 10:18 PM
Ironically Ika has been the best houseguest whilst simultaneously ruining the season

I get what you mean, although shes personally not my favourite houseguest, its undeniable that shes very entertaining and good TV, if only she was alligned with different people really

JTM45
19-04-2017, 05:36 PM
Ika being entertaining ???
I must have missed that episode because all i've seen is someone diving head first into a showmance with one of the dullest dullards in the history of dullness.

She comes across like she's not in there to play the game at all but just to be on TV. She probably thinks she's gonna become wealthy, famous and successful without having any actual talent.

Jason.
19-04-2017, 05:42 PM
Ika being entertaining ???
I must have missed that episode because all i've seen is someone diving head first into a showmance with one of the dullest dullards in the history of dullness.

She comes across like she's not in there to play the game at all but just to be on TV. She probably thinks she's gonna become wealthy, famous and successful without having any actual talent.

She isn't having a showmance with Bruno though?

DrunkerThanMoses
19-04-2017, 06:20 PM
Ika being entertaining ???
I must have missed that episode because all i've seen is someone diving head first into a showmance with one of the dullest dullards in the history of dullness.

She comes across like she's not in there to play the game at all but just to be on TV. She probably thinks she's gonna become wealthy, famous and successful without having any actual talent.

:clap1:

Ika and Karen have ruined this season with their nastiness, embarrassments

Guuki
20-04-2017, 02:12 PM
I still enjoy it as in my opinion BBCAN will always be the best BB in the world.

Raph
20-04-2017, 04:27 PM
noo it's actually so good! one of my favorites :)

UserSince2005
20-04-2017, 04:55 PM
The last few episode have been good.

But if they had cass and gary in them they would have been a million time better

plus, why the **** and bruno and kevin still in there

why were they even picked in the first place?

Thea
20-04-2017, 05:03 PM
I think the special power Neda won ruined the game because everyone assumes Neda would not have stayed safe without it when in fact she would still have been safe. It was too huge of an advantage.

Missing the first week of feeds didn't help.

BB didn't focus on the strategizing enough. They were too busy creating characters rather than letting characters emerge.

If interference is going to be so obvious, such as William finding the special veto, then be upfront about it. For example, occasionally former players come in to advise a player. It would have been hilarious if the newbies had been regularly getting tips from former vets without the knowledge of the vets on the show.

I don't like the have not thing. It isn't fun. It's grim because it's a week long. I want to seem them enjoying themselves more and not just by getting drunk. More crazy tasks and quests that lead to mini special powers. Wearing the boxing gloves until bedtime was fun.

Big brother has never been "fair" so own it and interfere more directly to stir things up if they are getting too predictable.

Calderyon
21-04-2017, 01:47 AM
Will be most likely my least favorite BBCAN season. Even if i got to see Cassandra and Gary evicted.

ebandit
02-05-2017, 07:23 PM
Will be most likely my least favorite BBCAN season. Even if i got to see Cassandra and Gary evicted.

yessssssss...................i too was so happy..............................

don't forget the 'we love our new furniture item from the brick' moment

BB can is better than no BB but could a programme be any more over produced/
manipulated?

Mark L

ps at least arisa is always lovely

Mystic Mock
02-05-2017, 09:58 PM
It's a poor man's BBUSA, even if that show isn't as good as it used to be it still runs rings around a show that doesn't know if it wants to be public voted or Housemate voted.

DouglasS
02-05-2017, 10:08 PM
It's a poor man's BBUSA, even if that show isn't as good as it used to be it still runs rings around a show that doesn't know if it wants to be public voted or Housemate voted.
I disagree, BBCAN has differentiated itself to be unique, yes it follows the BBUSA's format but it has it's own twists and turns, it's also less producer driven than BBUSA.

I actually think BBCAN is better than BBUSA [As it is now] by far - although this season hasn't been one of my favorites, the last 5 seasons of BBCAN are far superior than the last 5 of BBUSA, and I'm pretty sure most fans will agree.

Mystic Mock
02-05-2017, 10:13 PM
I just think that the Housemates are smarter in BBUSA than in BBCAN as the Showmances can get voted out before the top 5, and the most popular with the public can leave.

DouglasS
02-05-2017, 10:28 PM
I just think that the Housemates are smarter in BBUSA than in BBCAN as the Showmances can get voted out before the top 5, and the most popular with the public can leave.

The pre game favorite was Neda and she has left.

As soon as the game actually began Cassandra and Gary were the favourites and then they left.

So I'd say the favorites have left.

Ika had a very small percentage pre game and was definitely not a favorite - a believe the top 4 in BBCAN favorite player voting for the viewers were Neda, Cass, Kevin, Gary with Bruno in fifth and some newbies even beating Ika Wong. So Ika only really became a favorite after both Cass and Gary had left, so I'd disagree.

In other seasons as well favoirtes haven't fared amazing, yes in BBCAN2 and 3 there were twists that involved BBCAN voting for a week, aka BBCAN HOH or Britneee getting a superpower, but that only effects the voting for a week.

With showmances making the top 5, there are plenty in the USA also, to name the memorable ones; Drew and Diane who made the top 3, Jeff and Jordan who made the top 5, Shane and Daniele who made the top 4. So it's not really different, Emmet and Jillian made the top 5 because they made it impossible for either one to be evicted for four of five weeks by Jillian winning constant HOH's and Emmet winning constant vetos. Neda and Jon weren't a showmance until after the show aired as Jon had a girlfriend, and Zach and Ashleigh who both didn't make the top 5 but made it far remained intact because of Bruno in the triple eviction using the veto meaning two more further houseguests would be evicted and then painted a target on his own back.

This season Demika have just played a good game, but they are being targetted

I find the casting in BBCAN more interesting and prefer the houseguests in general. They don't cast as awful people in general; for instance I've not seen anyone on BBCAN as bad as the last 5 years of houseguests of BBUSA; Andy Herren, Amanda, Aaryn, Spencer, Gina-Marie, Jeremy, Kaitlin, Frankie, Cody, Paulie are all probably worse than any houseguest cast on BBCAN of the past 5 years in terms of personality

starry
02-05-2017, 11:38 PM
I have definitely preferred BBUS. The casting is less vanilla certainly. The American version has also dabbled with public voting so I wouldn't say that's a reason to differentiate, in fact the Canadian one largely follows what the US one does. The one big different thing they did was bringing in ex-HMs from other countries, though even there Nikki wasn't a good choice.

Macie Lightfoot
03-05-2017, 01:19 AM
The cast of BBUS being less vanilla is a remarkable claim. BBUS literally just picks young generic jerks in their 20s that you can find in any LA area bar, and then maybe one token gay person/black person/old person/whatever have you.

ebandit
03-05-2017, 07:41 AM
..........for myself BB US /BB can are both crap 'cos success relies too heavily on chance

ie who wins HOH

...........but BB can is great 'cos they have wonderful HMs...........there has only been one i

literally could not abide...................that b1tch sarah

Mark L

Mystic Mock
03-05-2017, 06:45 PM
The pre game favorite was Neda and she has left.

As soon as the game actually began Cassandra and Gary were the favourites and then they left.

So I'd say the favorites have left.

Ika had a very small percentage pre game and was definitely not a favorite - a believe the top 4 in BBCAN favorite player voting for the viewers were Neda, Cass, Kevin, Gary with Bruno in fifth and some newbies even beating Ika Wong. So Ika only really became a favorite after both Cass and Gary had left, so I'd disagree.

In other seasons as well favoirtes haven't fared amazing, yes in BBCAN2 and 3 there were twists that involved BBCAN voting for a week, aka BBCAN HOH or Britneee getting a superpower, but that only effects the voting for a week.

With showmances making the top 5, there are plenty in the USA also, to name the memorable ones; Drew and Diane who made the top 3, Jeff and Jordan who made the top 5, Shane and Daniele who made the top 4. So it's not really different, Emmet and Jillian made the top 5 because they made it impossible for either one to be evicted for four of five weeks by Jillian winning constant HOH's and Emmet winning constant vetos. Neda and Jon weren't a showmance until after the show aired as Jon had a girlfriend, and Zach and Ashleigh who both didn't make the top 5 but made it far remained intact because of Bruno in the triple eviction using the veto meaning two more further houseguests would be evicted and then painted a target on his own back.

This season Demika have just played a good game, but they are being targetted

I find the casting in BBCAN more interesting and prefer the houseguests in general. They don't cast as awful people in general; for instance I've not seen anyone on BBCAN as bad as the last 5 years of houseguests of BBUSA; Andy Herren, Amanda, Aaryn, Spencer, Gina-Marie, Jeremy, Kaitlin, Frankie, Cody, Paulie are all probably worse than any houseguest cast on BBCAN of the past 5 years in terms of personality

BBUSA has gone on for so long I would find it rigged if no Showmance had ever made the top 5, where as with BBCAN they're happening way more than is realistic imo as I think that alot of people would want to free up the survivor into being in their alliance rather than letting an already established pair stick around and dominate the game.

And to me people like Aaryn, Andy, and Frankie were all big characters, and Jeremy was also all sorts of wrong.:joker: Where as for me the Canadians maybe more likable, but also suffer from being too chilled out in a game that they're suppose to try and win. I understand that we all have different tastes when it comes to BB but I do like alert players that are willing to go low to try and win.

However having said that I can forgive a Housemate for being stupid if they're funny.

DouglasS
03-05-2017, 06:58 PM
Going low to win is fine, its within the rules, its moreso as the houseguests as people that I have an issue with the BBUSA cast, and seeing a lot of them go far is awful.

For instance Devin lied constantly in BB15 to everyone and played a 'low' and 'messy' game and so his gameplay was often disliked, but he was fine as a person, and I can respect him and his game and what he bought to the show. It's the Frankie's/Aaryn's/Amanda's/Andy's however that are just either racist/homophobic/sexist/awful people outside of their gameplay that ruin the show and make it hard to enjoy a season.

Although Aaryn being racist for no reason behind houseguests back wasn't enhancing her ability to win or her gameplay.

If they were being scummy people that were lying constantly to enhance their game or to stay another week [Aka Dr. Will, James Rhine etc], then fair enough thats their gameplayer [and I really enjoyed them both]. It's moreso the personal beliefs and them as a person, and a lot of the BBUSA cast are just terrible people.

Frankie thinking rape can be funny in lots of cases and that women whine too much if they're raped is ridiculous. As is saying theres no such thing as LGBT women at all and they're just attention seeking to be popular as its now 'in', to have that belief especially as an LGBT person is ridiculous.

Mystic Mock
03-05-2017, 07:18 PM
Frankie was trolling, he was trying to make a name for himself imo, I'm not saying that the particular comment was right to say as it's a bit far even for me, but I think we saw that his not a complete devil on CBBUK.

DouglasS
03-05-2017, 07:26 PM
CBBUK didn't have live feeds, so I'm not sure I'd use that to judge his character, they wouldn't air terrible things. BBUSA however had 24/7 feeds and his whole true chatacter was judged. For me he will always be a bottom 2 housemate of the 300 odd housemates there has been.