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the truth
13-04-2017, 11:35 PM
Oh Boy.....This is starting to get scary

Scarlett.
13-04-2017, 11:43 PM
The guy is clearly insane.

Marsh.
14-04-2017, 12:06 AM
Silent but deadly?

arista
14-04-2017, 01:40 AM
http://news.sky.com/story/us-drops-mother-of-all-bombs-on-is-held-caves-in-afghanistan-10835925

Down the terrorist caves

Denver
14-04-2017, 01:41 AM
What a nonce

arista
14-04-2017, 01:42 AM
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Kazanne
14-04-2017, 08:11 AM
36 militants dead and the tunnels all but destroyed,is that a bad thing ?

Northern Monkey
14-04-2017, 08:11 AM
I got one of those before in Call of Duty.It's no laughing matter.

DemolitionRed
14-04-2017, 08:40 AM
And this is the news out of Syria. http://www.syrianow.sy/index.php?d=35&id=165772

A UN independent commission is examining reports that the US-led coalition has bombed a site in Deir al-Zour that the Syrian authorities say was a chemical storehouse, UN Human Rights Council spokesman Rolando Gomez said on Thursday.

The Syrian army announced earlier in the day that the coalition forces launched an air strike on the headquarters of the "Da'ash" terrorist in the area of ​​Hatala Deir al-Zour on Wednesday, causing the deaths of hundreds of poisonous inhalation, a week after the town of Khan Sheikun chemical attack Killing 87 people.

The General Command of the Syrian army said in a statement that "the flight of the so-called International Alliance yesterday between 17.30 and 17.50 hours on the implementation of an air strike, targeting the headquarters of the" Da'ash "terrorist, including a large number of foreign mercenaries, Deir al-Zour was formed by a white cloud turned yellow, turned out to be the result of the explosion of a huge warehouse containing a large amount of toxic substances.

jaxie
14-04-2017, 11:02 AM
And this is the news out of Syria. http://www.syrianow.sy/index.php?d=35&id=165772

A UN independent commission is examining reports that the US-led coalition has bombed a site in Deir al-Zour that the Syrian authorities say was a chemical storehouse, UN Human Rights Council spokesman Rolando Gomez said on Thursday.

The Syrian army announced earlier in the day that the coalition forces launched an air strike on the headquarters of the "Da'ash" terrorist in the area of ​​Hatala Deir al-Zour on Wednesday, causing the deaths of hundreds of poisonous inhalation, a week after the town of Khan Sheikun chemical attack Killing 87 people.

The General Command of the Syrian army said in a statement that "the flight of the so-called International Alliance yesterday between 17.30 and 17.50 hours on the implementation of an air strike, targeting the headquarters of the" Da'ash "terrorist, including a large number of foreign mercenaries, Deir al-Zour was formed by a white cloud turned yellow, turned out to be the result of the explosion of a huge warehouse containing a large amount of toxic substances.

Propaganda. Quick let's deflect so the gullible world thinks we aren't poisoning our own people. Any cost to win. Why would anyone feel the Syrian army is particularly truthful? :shrug:

DemolitionRed
14-04-2017, 11:12 AM
Propaganda. Quick let's deflect so the gullible world thinks we aren't poisoning our own people. Any cost to win. Why would anyone feel the Syrian army is particularly truthful? :shrug:

I'm just dropping in some news from other sources. Who are we to decide which news is propaganda and which isn't?

It sounds like you have made up your mind... I haven't.

jaxie
14-04-2017, 11:15 AM
I'm just dropping in some news from other sources. Who are we to decide which news is propaganda and which isn't?

It sounds like you have made up your mind... I haven't.

I'm fairly certain I know who I believe and it's not the guy who has been bombing his own people for several years because he won't let go of power. The chemical stuff is horrible but those barrel bombs are pretty loathsome too. And let's face it, Russia always lies. It's never them who were involved in an innocent airliner being blown out of the sky, the annexation of an independent people, or the bombing of civilians. I've a little more faith in the west who often actually admit when they are wrong or make a mistake.

Hmmm maybe we should watch Corbyn far closer than we are.

I think the US are flexing their muscles to send a message to a few leaders of the world who have started to think they are running things and can do what they like without any culpability. I don't believe anyone wins a war but I think the US are currently speaking the only language the likes of Putin, Assad, and North Korea understand. That's a tragedy all round but so is good men doing nothing and bystanding while people suffer. Let's hope against hope that a little flexing of US might will reign them in. The alternative is unthinkable.

Brillopad
14-04-2017, 01:19 PM
I'm fairly certain I know who I believe and it's not the guy who has been bombing his own people for several years because he won't let go of power. The chemical stuff is horrible but those barrel bombs are pretty loathsome too. And let's face it, Russia always lies. It's never them who were involved in an innocent airliner being blown out of the sky, the annexation of an independent people, or the bombing of civilians. I've a little more faith in the west who often actually admit when they are wrong or make a mistake.

Hmmm maybe we should watch Corbyn far closer than we are.

I think the US are flexing their muscles to send a message to a few leaders of the world who have started to think they are running things and can do what they like without any culpability. I don't believe anyone wins a war but I think the US are currently speaking the only language the likes of Putin, Assad, and North Korea understand. That's a tragedy all round but so is good men doing nothing and bystanding while people suffer. Let's hope against hope that a little flexing of US might will reign them in. The alternative is unthinkable.

I completely agree Jaxie. America would have been equally criticised, by those with an agenda, if they had done nothing - damn them if they do, damn them if they don't. Good men have to do something. Of course there will be those who spout on about ulterior motives but to do nothing would be much worse.

DemolitionRed
14-04-2017, 04:28 PM
I'm fairly certain I know who I believe and it's not the guy who has been bombing his own people for several years because he won't let go of power. The chemical stuff is horrible but those barrel bombs are pretty loathsome too. And let's face it, Russia always lies. It's never them who were involved in an innocent airliner being blown out of the sky, the annexation of an independent people, or the bombing of civilians. I've a little more faith in the west who often actually admit when they are wrong or make a mistake.

And you believe the American government doesn't lie? that Trump doesn't lie?

America lied to us when it said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It didn’t invade Iraq and dispose of Hussein because it was misled, it invaded because of ‘American ideology’ and it was prepared to sacrifice thousands of NATO soldiers as well as kill over a 100,000 Iraqis before turning Iraq into a chaotic dust bowl.
The same happened with Iran in 1953, in Afghanistan in 2001, in Asia, Cuba, Puerto Rico the Philippines Africa, Libya and Vietnam. These CIA military attempts to overthrow governments are endless.

Trumps lies are endless, the U.S government lies are endless and ‘Western Civilization’ fully support those lies and every lie the US uses is duplicated throughout Europe, Australia and Canada. Then here we all are shouting, kill the fnckers, nuke the bvstards.


Hmmm maybe we should watch Corbyn far closer than we are.


Yes, yes, lets all believe the propaganda hype against him too! though what he's got to do with this topic is somewhat baffling.

I think the US are flexing their muscles to send a message to a few leaders of the world who have started to think they are running things and can do what they like without any culpability. I don't believe anyone wins a war but I think the US are currently speaking the only language the likes of Putin, Assad, and North Korea understand. That's a tragedy all round but so is good men doing nothing and bystanding while people suffer. Let's hope against hope that a little flexing of US might will reign them in. The alternative is unthinkable.

We are the invaders, not Russia.

America and its allies have been flexing its muscles over Muslim rule for far too long and all it causes is, political instability and terrorist blowback. I condemn imperialism and that’s exactly what this is.

How can America claim its safeguarding liberty when it approves illegal torture, commits war crimes and created mass genocide in Libya, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen and Syria. This is about empire building… ‘divide and rule’ and forgive me, but I'm no cheer leader.

Northern Monkey
14-04-2017, 05:18 PM
I'm predicting that the US is planning a strike on NK.I think it's going to happen soon.Kim Jong is going to test another nuke soon.If he does that on Trumps watch I believe the US will start launching Tomahawks.They are positioned for it.I firmly believe this will happen.

smudgie
14-04-2017, 05:29 PM
Would this be the attack Mr. Putin was forecasting in an interview last week...crystal ball or a plan maybe:shrug:

Brillopad
14-04-2017, 06:01 PM
And you believe the American government doesn't lie? that Trump doesn't lie?

America lied to us when it said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It didn’t invade Iraq and dispose of Hussein because it was misled, it invaded because of ‘American ideology’ and it was prepared to sacrifice thousands of NATO soldiers as well as kill over a 100,000 Iraqis before turning Iraq into a chaotic dust bowl.
The same happened with Iran in 1953, in Afghanistan in 2001, in Asia, Cuba, Puerto Rico the Philippines Africa, Libya and Vietnam. These CIA military attempts to overthrow governments are endless.

Trumps lies are endless, the U.S government lies are endless and ‘Western Civilization’ fully support those lies and every lie the US uses is duplicated throughout Europe, Australia and Canada. Then here we all are shouting, kill the fnckers, nuke the bvstards.



Yes, yes, lets all believe the propaganda hype against him too! though what he's got to do with this topic is somewhat baffling.


We are the invaders, not Russia.

America and its allies have been flexing its muscles over Muslim rule for far too long and all it causes is, political instability and terrorist blowback. I condemn imperialism and that’s exactly what this is.

How can America claim its safeguarding liberty when it approves illegal torture, commits war crimes and created mass genocide in Libya, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen and Syria. This is about empire building… ‘divide and rule’ and forgive me, but I'm no cheer leader.

Ffs, no-one is saying the West are perfect, but they don't brutalise, terrorise or murder their own people. They don't stone young women to death for daring to stand-up to the system. Whatever the West's faults, and there are plenty, they don't have the complete lack of human rights of the Middle East.

I don't pretend to be an expert on the Middle East but like most I am aware of their appauling human rights' record. I also seem to recall that when we went into Iraq many Muslims there were begging the West to intervene and get rid of a murdering dictator. The Middle East creates its own dictators who sometimes need to be removed, as much for the sake of the helpless people they torture and murder as for the political interests of the West.

Yes we were lied to about nuclear weapons, and most regret the loss of our brave men and women as a result, but what is done can't be undone. None of that however puts the West in the same league as the dictators of the Middle East, neither does it excuse terrorism. There is no comparison.

DemolitionRed
14-04-2017, 06:08 PM
I'm predicting that the US is planning a strike on NK.I think it's going to happen soon.Kim Jong is going to test another nuke soon.If he does that on Trumps watch I believe the US will start launching Tomahawks.They are positioned for it.I firmly believe this will happen.

I think this too. Was this a test shot before heading into NK with the big mama?

DemolitionRed
14-04-2017, 06:20 PM
Ffs, no-one is saying the West are perfect, but they don't brutalise, terrorise or murder their own people. They don't stone young women to death for daring to stand-up to the system. Whatever the West's faults, and there are plenty, they don't have the complete lack of human rights of the Middle East.

Do you think that's why America has got involved?



I don't pretend to be an expert on the Middle East but like most I am aware of their appauling human rights' record. I also seem to recall that when we went into Iraq many Muslims there were begging the West to intervene and get rid of a murdering dictator. The Middle East creates its own dictators who sometimes need to be removed, as much for the sake of the helpless people they torture and murder as for the political interests of the West.


Trump has welcomed el-Sissi and the Saudi king with open arms, if America were concerned about human rights, why didn't he start with those two monsters?

Funny that we only really hear about the government murdering and torturing its citizens when we want to invade. There are countries the world over that murder and torture prisoners but we only hear about the ones with oil supply lines.


Yes we were lied to about nuclear weapons, and most regret the loss of our brave men and women as a result, but what is done can't be undone. None of that however puts the West in the same league as the dictators of the Middle East, neither does it excuse terrorism. There is no comparison.

I think it very much puts us in their league and it doesn't excuse terrorism but causes it. They see us as terrorists and that's why they try to terrorise us.

thesheriff443
14-04-2017, 06:27 PM
Its just one big bomb instead of hundreds of smaller ones.

The plan to use this bomb has been around long before trump.
The world is at war right now.

waterhog
14-04-2017, 06:40 PM
Its just one big bomb instead of hundreds of smaller ones.

The plan to use this bomb has been around long before trump.
The world is at war right now.



it has been round for ages but there are consequences with dropping it - never the less - I back trump as sanctions are clearly not working.

DemolitionRed
14-04-2017, 06:44 PM
So if Russia, Syria and Iran retaliate, who gets hit first... nous?

Brillopad
14-04-2017, 06:54 PM
Do you think that's why America has got involved?



Trump has welcomed el-Sissi and the Saudi king with open arms, if America were concerned about human rights, why didn't he start with those two monsters?

Funny that we only really hear about the government murdering and torturing its citizens when we want to invade. There are countries the world over that murder and torture prisoners but we only hear about the ones with oil supply lines.



I think it very much puts us in their league and it doesn't excuse terrorism but causes it. They see us as terrorists and that's why they try to terrorise us.

They terrorise because they see us as a threat to their controllling and terrorising regime. They fear our intervention might release women and others from their intimidating, terrorising vice-like grip on the country. It is all about self-interest and control - everything you accuse the West of.

thesheriff443
14-04-2017, 06:55 PM
it has been round for ages but there are consequences with dropping it - never the less - I back trump as sanctions are clearly not working.

Its only killed 34 murderers so not really any consequences tomaharks caused more of a stirr

Beso
14-04-2017, 07:40 PM
Ah, he listened.:clap2:

ebandit
14-04-2017, 08:16 PM
..........how many $'s does that mutha cost?

21,000 lb bomb to take out a handful of enemy personnel........................

shocked and awestruck at ineffectiveness...................

Mark L

Northern Monkey
14-04-2017, 08:26 PM
..........how many $'s does that mutha cost?

21,000 lb bomb to take out a handful of enemy personnel........................

shocked and awestruck at ineffectiveness...................

Mark L

To take out a tunnel network.

And probably to test out the MOAB in a live situation and show US power

ebandit
14-04-2017, 08:31 PM
just checked out u tube....i see now it were one for the cameras

...but again i'm puzzled we have a computer guided bomb..........then

the bomb carrier 'thingy' falls earth bound to fall on any unlucky passerby

Mark L

DemolitionRed
14-04-2017, 08:49 PM
Its only killed 34 murderers so not really any consequences tomaharks caused more of a stirr

According to Western news but not according to Syrian news.

Tell me this though, how can they possibly know how many they have killed or injured?

Beso
14-04-2017, 09:09 PM
According to Western news but not according to Syrian news.

Tell me this though, how can they possibly know how many they have killed or injured?

Front line troops having a look.:shrug:

jaxie
15-04-2017, 08:36 AM
And you believe the American government doesn't lie? that Trump doesn't lie?

America lied to us when it said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It didn’t invade Iraq and dispose of Hussein because it was misled, it invaded because of ‘American ideology’ and it was prepared to sacrifice thousands of NATO soldiers as well as kill over a 100,000 Iraqis before turning Iraq into a chaotic dust bowl.
The same happened with Iran in 1953, in Afghanistan in 2001, in Asia, Cuba, Puerto Rico the Philippines Africa, Libya and Vietnam. These CIA military attempts to overthrow governments are endless.

Initially I think they did believe those weapons were there. The fact that inspectors were given the run around by the regime didn't help. We can point to historic events from all countries to the beginning of time but that doesn't make it particularly relevant to the conversation at hand.

Trumps lies are endless, the U.S government lies are endless and ‘Western Civilization’ fully support those lies and every lie the US uses is duplicated throughout Europe, Australia and Canada. Then here we all are shouting, kill the fnckers, nuke the bvstards.

We can't blame Trump's administration for any of the above. What lies exactly do you know he has told?

Yes, yes, lets all believe the propaganda hype against him too! though what he's got to do with this topic is somewhat baffling.

I found it amusing to add Corbyn, another unpopular leader who won't go.

We are the invaders, not Russia.

Good for you if you believe their innocence. I'm not so convinced by state run news.

America and its allies have been flexing its muscles over Muslim rule for far too long and all it causes is, political instability and terrorist blowback. I condemn imperialism and that’s exactly what this is.

Well it is a mysogionistic religion and where it is involved in the political control of a country it usually leads to the oppression of the people therein, particularly the women who have few rights. It also seems to lead to dictatorships.

How can America claim its safeguarding liberty when it approves illegal torture, commits war crimes and created mass genocide in Libya, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen and Syria. This is about empire building… ‘divide and rule’ and forgive me, but I'm no cheer leader.

In an ideal world America and it's allies shouldn't have to police it. But we aren't in an ideal world. What's the alternative?

ebandit
15-04-2017, 08:42 AM
Front line troops having a look.:shrug:

drone surveillance....today report at least 90 killed

isis report....................zero casualties

Mark L

Livia
15-04-2017, 09:45 AM
36 militants dead and the tunnels all but destroyed,is that a bad thing ?

No, it's a good thing.

DemolitionRed
15-04-2017, 02:54 PM
In an ideal world America and it's allies shouldn't have to police it. But we aren't in an ideal world. What's the alternative?

Get the Americans out. All America really wants is the Bush gas pipeline to run from Qatar to Europe, so Europe consumes American Interest natural gas and not Russian natural gas!!

This is the nature of the international "Coalition" not about the lives of Middle eastern girls not being able to attend school or women being oppressed, and children being gassed.

The real cause is Money and power!!!

Kazanne
15-04-2017, 04:00 PM
No, it's a good thing.

I confess to not knowing much about it Livia,but what do people want ? we cant just sit back surely and people are now complaining that this has happened:shrug:

DemolitionRed
15-04-2017, 04:21 PM
I confess to not knowing much about it Livia,but what do people want ? we cant just sit back surely and people are now complaining that this has happened:shrug:


WHY?... why can't we just sit back and ignore the war mongers? We have terrorist attacks because we held the Americas hand when it invaded Iraq and Syria and now Trump is busy making threats at North Korea and North Korea are making threats towards the West. Trump knows NK hasn't got the capabilities to send a long range nuclear missile to America but it has got the capabilities to send nuclear missiles to the UK.

More than ever, right now we need to stay the fcuk out

user104658
15-04-2017, 04:44 PM
WHY?... why can't we just sit back and ignore the war mongers? We have terrorist attacks because we held the Americas hand when it invaded Iraq and Syria and now Trump is busy making threats at North Korea and North Korea are making threats towards the West. Trump knows NK hasn't got the capabilities to send a long range nuclear missile to America but it has got the capabilities to send nuclear missiles to the UK.

More than ever, right now we need to stay the fcuk out

I'm not sure where you read that DR, but it's exactly the same distance (pretty much to the mile) from NK to the south east coast of the UK as it is from NK to the west coast of California. They would want to hit a population center, so would be San Francisco in the US or London in the UK... both are roughly 5250 miles from NK.

Also, to send a nuke to the UK "as the crow flies" from NK would have it flying over thousands of miles of Chinese airspace and a good chunk of Russia, the whole of Ukraine, Poland, Germany and either Belgium or The Netherlands.

To hit San Fran they only have to go through airspace belonging to South Korea and Japan, both of whom they already have toxic relationships with so it wouldn't matter, then it's 4000 miles of open Pacific.

I can't see how the UK is in any way a more feasible target... without them launching from China. Which would be a whole other can of radioactive worms.

Brillopad
15-04-2017, 04:45 PM
WHY?... why can't we just sit back and ignore the war mongers? We have terrorist attacks because we held the Americas hand when it invaded Iraq and Syria and now Trump is busy making threats at North Korea and North Korea are making threats towards the West. Trump knows NK hasn't got the capabilities to send a long range nuclear missile to America but it has got the capabilities to send nuclear missiles to the UK.

More than ever, right now we need to stay the fcuk out

The only reason we should stay out is to protect our own military personnel - not to stop reprisals from Middle Eastern terrorists.

I really take issue with you constantly suggesting that terrorist attacks on the West are justified - that we bring it on ourselves. Those terrorists terrorise their own and resent us interfering and stopping them doing so, so they try it on us instead. They are nothing but thugs and tyrants and the last thing we should do is bow down to their tyranny and just leave them free to inflict terror on those that can't fight back.

As I said in a previous post it is a dilemma, how can we leave people at the mercy of such cretins, but on the other hand why should we put our own at risk. If we could come up with some magical solution that would wipe all those scumbags off the face of this earth - the world would be a much better place.

user104658
15-04-2017, 04:52 PM
TBH if you want NK gone all you really need to do is have Japan lift their non-defensive military ban, arm 'em to the teeth and give them a dozen warheads. I reckon they'd take out NK in a heartbeat :joker:, probably in alliance with SK.

Chinese / NK relations have been souring for years... if they cut them loose completely they're ****ed.

jaxie
15-04-2017, 04:53 PM
Get the Americans out. All America really wants is the Bush gas pipeline to run from Qatar to Europe, so Europe consumes American Interest natural gas and not Russian natural gas!!

This is the nature of the international "Coalition" not about the lives of Middle eastern girls not being able to attend school or women being oppressed, and children being gassed.

The real cause is Money and power!!!

So is your answer to leave the civilian citizens at the mercy of tyrants? The west didn't start the Arab Spring, the people did. But their oppressors won't let go. And if we leave them to it, how long after that do the tyrants look over at us? I do not ever advocate war but I think it's very shaky and shady ground to just leave people to it and let them be gassed and barrel bombed etc. It's not our problem right?

user104658
15-04-2017, 04:55 PM
As I said in a previous post it is a dilemma, how can we leave people at the mercy of such cretins, but on the other hand why should we put our own at risk. If we could come up with some magical solution that would wipe all those scumbags off the face of this earth - the world would be a much better place.

And a significantly less populated place; the line of power hungry individuals who would be lining up to take their place would stretch for miles. If you were to wipe out every individual with selfish / cruel / power-craving / megalomaniac intentions by some magical means over-night, a huge chunk of the population would wake up dead. Including a huge chunk of our own political class and several western political leaders.

jaxie
15-04-2017, 04:57 PM
TBH if you want NK gone all you really need to do is have Japan lift their non-defensive military ban, arm 'em to the teeth and give them a dozen warheads. I reckon they'd take out NK in a heartbeat :joker:, probably in alliance with SK.

Chinese / NK relations have been souring for years... if they cut them loose completely they're ****ed.

China would just love that!

user104658
15-04-2017, 04:58 PM
The west didn't start the Arab Spring, the people did.

Ummmm well... the people (the younger generations, anyway) certainly wanted to start it but it doesn't take much digging to realise that the US had a heavy influence in actually triggering and further supporting Arab Spring movements. So... the west did a little bit start the Arab Spring.

Tozzie
15-04-2017, 06:49 PM
I'm unsure if Trump did the right thing to bomb the Isis tunnels and caves, the trouble is Isis are now roaming all over the place, Europe lets thousands in not long ago, how does anyone know who were or weren't Isis among all those that came. Some will now be dead but there are many many more, he won't get them all and this will have angered the ones still alive more. Someone said, the world is at war, I believe that to be true. I can almost feel it coming. So sorry my young family members are growing up in these times .

DemolitionRed
16-04-2017, 08:25 AM
I'm not sure where you read that DR, but it's exactly the same distance (pretty much to the mile) from NK to the south east coast of the UK as it is from NK to the west coast of California. They would want to hit a population center, so would be San Francisco in the US or London in the UK... both are roughly 5250 miles from NK.

Also, to send a nuke to the UK "as the crow flies" from NK would have it flying over thousands of miles of Chinese airspace and a good chunk of Russia, the whole of Ukraine, Poland, Germany and either Belgium or The Netherlands.

To hit San Fran they only have to go through airspace belonging to South Korea and Japan, both of whom they already have toxic relationships with so it wouldn't matter, then it's 4000 miles of open Pacific.

I can't see how the UK is in any way a more feasible target... without them launching from China. Which would be a whole other can of radioactive worms.

Well thank god for that. Thanks for putting me straight on this! its still very scary times though and it feels like Trump is playing Russian Roulette with us all.

Cherie
16-04-2017, 10:28 AM
Potential missile ranges

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-39612095

DemolitionRed
16-04-2017, 11:06 AM
An interesting site http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/advice/a22948/north-korea-icbm-range-united-states/

Cherie
16-04-2017, 12:52 PM
WHY?... why can't we just sit back and ignore the war mongers? We have terrorist attacks because we held the Americas hand when it invaded Iraq and Syria and now Trump is busy making threats at North Korea and North Korea are making threats towards the West. Trump knows NK hasn't got the capabilities to send a long range nuclear missile to America but it has got the capabilities to send nuclear missiles to the UK.

More than ever, right now we need to stay the fcuk out

An interesting site http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/advice/a22948/north-korea-icbm-range-united-states/

Shame Google wasn't your friend yesterday

Kizzy
16-04-2017, 01:01 PM
Looking at that you would think Russia would be more concerned than they appear to be.

Northern Monkey
16-04-2017, 01:08 PM
An interesting site http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/advice/a22948/north-korea-icbm-range-united-states/

Interesting.I didn't know NK even had a space program.I knew that ICBM's usually leave the atmosphere and then re-enter and use gravity to reach their target.However i don't think the US would let it get very far off the ground.
A space rocket launch However could be used as cover for a surprise strike leaving not that much time to intercept.

DemolitionRed
16-04-2017, 01:32 PM
Shame Google wasn't your friend yesterday

A bottle of wine was my friend yesterday :hee:

DemolitionRed
16-04-2017, 01:33 PM
Saying that, I can eat humble pie when I have to... can you?

Northern Monkey
16-04-2017, 02:00 PM
I prefer hairy pie

Cherie
16-04-2017, 04:58 PM
Saying that, I can eat humble pie when I have to... can you?

I don't need to as I didn't make an outrageously insccurate post on this thread which I expect you thought the TiBB faithful would accept without question, good old TS :laugh:

Kizzy
16-04-2017, 07:34 PM
I don't need to as I didn't make an outrageously insccurate post on this thread which I expect you thought the TiBB faithful would accept without question, good old TS :laugh:

Never been known for there to be outrageously inaccurate comments on this forum before either... :umm2:

DemolitionRed
16-04-2017, 09:29 PM
I don't need to as I didn't make an outrageously insccurate post on this thread which I expect you thought the TiBB faithful would accept without question, good old TS :laugh:

Not at all, that's why I backed down. You must of loved that but even then you can't let it go can you. Carry right on, it clearly makes you feel superior :hee:

jaxie
18-04-2017, 10:56 AM
Never been known for there to be outrageously inaccurate comments on this forum before either... :umm2:

Sez the Queen of them!

Kizzy
18-04-2017, 11:09 AM
Sez the Queen of them!

That's not very nice, what have I said that you feel is innacurate?

Brillopad
18-04-2017, 11:12 AM
That's not very nice, what have I said that you feel is innacurate?

Too many. That Corbyn would be an effective PM for one. :laugh:

Kizzy
18-04-2017, 11:14 AM
Too many. That Corbyn would be an effective PM for one. :laugh:

Tag teaming the baiting comments now?... I'll leave you to it if you don't mind.

Brillopad
18-04-2017, 11:22 AM
Tag teaming the baiting comments now?... I'll leave you to it if you don't mind.

Funny that - there were several occasions when I was going to point out how you constantly tag team with DR, but decided not to. This time the blatant double standard is too overwhelming. Doesn't look good to suggest others are too stupid to see it.

Kizzy
18-04-2017, 11:44 AM
Funny that - there were several occasions when I was going to point out how you constantly tag team with DR, but decided not to. This time the blatant double standard is too overwhelming. Doesn't look good to suggest others are too stupid to see it.

We may support each others stances on a topic, and voice that support... we do not bait other members as you have here with no reference to the thread topic whatsoever.

DemolitionRed
18-04-2017, 11:45 AM
Funny that - there were several occasions when I was going to point out how you constantly tag team with DR, but decided not to. This time the blatant double standard is too overwhelming. Doesn't look good to suggest others are too stupid to see it.

In my defence, I agree with Kizzy's political thinking, though I don't believe Corbyn would be a good leader. Like Kizzy, I'm often astounded by some peoples apathy towards humanitarian matters and so if you see me posting after Kizzy or Kizzy after me, its not about defending one another but about sharing the same frustrations.

Brillopad
18-04-2017, 11:50 AM
We may support each others stances on a topic, and voice that support... we do not bait other members as you have here with no reference to the thread topic whatsoever.

That does work both ways you know. But I was responding to your blatant double standard, nothing more complicated than that.

Kizzy
18-04-2017, 12:07 PM
That does work both ways you know. But I was responding to your blatant double standard, nothing more complicated than that.

What double standard? I just explained there isn't one except in your mind...Maybe it's just doublethink?

You also brought DR into this irrational accusatory scenario, not content with offending me you chose to insult her too.
I won't be responding to you or your jibes any longer stick to the subject in discussion please.

Brillopad
18-04-2017, 12:12 PM
What double standard? I just explained there isn't one except in your mind...Maybe it's just doublethink?

You also brought DR into this irrational accusatory scenario, not content with offending me you chose to insult her too.
I won't be responding to you or your jibes any longer stick to the subject in discussion please.

Don't throw allegations around about others then there won't be an issue will there. I don't tag team.

the truth
18-04-2017, 01:11 PM
In my defence, I agree with Kizzy's political thinking, though I don't believe Corbyn would be a good leader. Like Kizzy, I'm often astounded by some peoples apathy towards humanitarian matters and so if you see me posting after Kizzy or Kizzy after me, its not about defending one another but about sharing the same frustrations.

the left pretend to care then bankrupt countries. what good are humanitarian laws with no money?