View Full Version : Snap election: Good of Bad idea?
LukeB
19-04-2017, 06:12 PM
A very risky move by Theresa that could be the smartest decision for her or a stupid one.
joeysteele
19-04-2017, 06:16 PM
Bad idea for me.
UserSince2005
19-04-2017, 06:18 PM
Bad idea because labour will have the chance to regenerate and sack corbin after their absymal showing.
Good idea because labour being crushed will be so amusing.
smudgie
19-04-2017, 06:19 PM
Good idea.
Everyone should have a clearer vision of what is what after it.
Labour might get to sort out a decent leader.
Theresa May should have a stronger hand in her dealings over Brexit...or not as the case would be if she lost the election.
reece(:
19-04-2017, 06:20 PM
Bad as it will only gather more division in the country at a time when we need to come together.
joeysteele
19-04-2017, 06:23 PM
Bad as it will only gather more division in the country at a time when we need to come together.
I agree,I can see the nasty divisions evident in the EU referendum surfacing again too.
Kizzy
19-04-2017, 06:28 PM
Well they got away with fixing a referendum and a presidency don't see why a general election would be so hard :/
Shaun
19-04-2017, 06:31 PM
It's a shrewd move that will give the tories a stronger foothold.
I would say it's too soon after the last one but the political climate has changed immeasurably and considering the cabinet's completely different, it makes sense to have another election.
I can't be too angry about it because all of my hesitations and protests are merely because there's no strong rival party to dethrone Theresa. I just hope once Corbyn fails abysmally and leaves, a strong leader emerges.
Brillopad
19-04-2017, 06:34 PM
Well they got away with fixing a referendum and a presidency don't see why a general election would be so hard :/
I do believe you actually believe that. :shrug:
Braden
19-04-2017, 06:37 PM
Good for Tories and (maybe) Liberal Democrats. Bad for Labour and UKIP. Although, a lot could transpire in the next seven weeks (case in point: Tim Farron has been labelled as a homophobe because of his religious views), I don't think there will be a a significant political effect.
People will moan either way, but I think this GE is an act of clarification in terms of going ahead with the significant change of brexit. I'm glad I don't have to wait years to vote now, since I find the whole thing quite exciting :joker:
Northern Monkey
19-04-2017, 07:20 PM
Well they got away with fixing a referendum and a presidency don't see why a general election would be so hard :/
:joker:
The Tories fixed the presidency?
I didn't hear about this.Was this in the Canary?
Northern Monkey
19-04-2017, 07:22 PM
Good for May and the Tories and possibly the Lib Dems.Maybe even good for the Greens.Bad for Labour and UKIP
Firewire
19-04-2017, 07:41 PM
Yeah good for Theresa and the Conservatives but bad for everyone else
Kizzy
19-04-2017, 07:47 PM
:joker:
The Tories fixed the presidency?
I didn't hear about this.Was this in the Canary?
Stop mocking the canary monkey! :fist:
The elite fix everything now :idc:
lewis111
19-04-2017, 08:16 PM
I understand why she done it but it costs a lot of money to hold an election and I don't think that it's worth it, but that's Tories for you, use money when it benefits them but the people who really need the money get nothing
And because it's only 50 days away the people behind the scenes who organise everything are going to have to work extra hard
I think it was a selfish move but a clever one
Glenn.
19-04-2017, 10:11 PM
Full of surprises our May
Greg!
19-04-2017, 10:24 PM
It might be good in the long run. Hopefully Corbyn will resign, Labour will get their act together and be able to challenge the Tories in 2022
ebandit
20-04-2017, 08:18 AM
...zero difference to myself personally
...merit in election as wor theresa was not party leader at previous election
Mark L
DemolitionRed
20-04-2017, 08:39 AM
Bad idea.
In the run up to a General Election we go into a state of lock-down, where no new policies can be worked on. Right now all the MPs, Councillors, Party members etc are concerned with the Election and not helping their constituents etc.
Livia
20-04-2017, 10:25 AM
Good idea. She's read the political climate and doing what she thinks best for the country going forward. No one expects a decent Brexit deal with all the childish infighting, threats to block it etc. She's put her money where her mouth is.
Most constituencies are already in election mode for the County on 4th May. Most political people, district, city and county councillors as well as lots of MPs are already out there campaigning, doorstepping, meeting the constituents so politics and elections are alrady on people's minds. Shame for the people who work for parties that they have a general election so close to a county one... they'll all be shattered come 9th June.
the truth
20-04-2017, 11:09 AM
on reflection smart move and not selfish. she could have killed labour slowly for 3 yrs. but she's killing them quick to get a better hand to deal with the corrupt eu. that's good for britain (ironically better for labour too long term)
Brillopad
20-04-2017, 11:37 AM
Bad idea.
In the run up to a General Election we go into a state of lock-down, where no new policies can be worked on. Right now all the MPs, Councillors, Party members etc are concerned with the Election and not helping their constituents etc.
It's only for six weeks - I don't think their constituents are going to suffer any long-term consequences.
DemolitionRed
20-04-2017, 01:10 PM
So what happened to 'The Fixed Term Parliament Act' that came into place in 2011?
user104658
20-04-2017, 01:34 PM
So what happened to 'The Fixed Term Parliament Act' that came into place in 2011?
A 2/3 vote in commons can be used to override it. Though I would imagine the intention of this was to safeguard against incompetent governments... rather than for the current govt. to be able to trigger a GE fully expecting itself to be voted back in "as is". Loopholes, innit.
joeysteele
20-04-2017, 02:24 PM
So what happened to 'The Fixed Term Parliament Act' that came into place in 2011?
Personally I think that is how she should have gone about calling this election.
Livia
20-04-2017, 02:40 PM
Gordon Brown was criticised for not calling an election... Theresa May is criticised for calling an election.
Damned if they do... damned if they don't.
joeysteele
20-04-2017, 03:02 PM
Gordon Brown was criticised for not calling an election... Theresa May is criticised for calling an election.
Damned if they do... damned if they don't.
I agree actually.
I think Brown should have had an election to get his own mandate.
He didn't and also to be fair to him,he never really said he would.
Theresa May has endlessly since becoming Pm completely ruled out any election before 2020.
The difference now being in a very short time she now has decided she is.
The Fixed term parliament act was designed to ensure continuance of govt. for 5 years and to actually stop Prime Ministers calling the shots as to elections that suit them.
Which is why I'd have preferred her to repeal that fixed term act and then call the election.
She is right to want an election when she can win it seems,as would be any PM.
However after so long of saying herself a general election would be wrong, then to suddenly go for one, that is my gripe with her decision and judgement.
For me and again just my view as all posts usually are just people's views on here,that turnaround makes me for one, doubt her word on anything even more than I did before.
Shaun
20-04-2017, 03:04 PM
Gordon Brown was criticised for not calling an election... Theresa May is criticised for calling an election.
Damned if they do... damned if they don't.
Yeah most of the anti-May sentiment I'd been reading in her handlings of Brexit and whatever else has been in the news (so not much) was that she'd been unelected, so it doesn't make a lot of sense to vehemently oppose this election. It's just because no one else has a chance of winning it :laugh: (sadly).
jaxie
20-04-2017, 03:06 PM
Well they got away with fixing a referendum and a presidency don't see why a general election would be so hard :/
Well that is way out there. Who knew the Tories reach extended to the US presidency.
jaxie
20-04-2017, 03:08 PM
I agree actually.
I think Brown should have had an election to get his own mandate.
He didn't and also to be fair to him,he never really said he would.
Theresa May has endlessly since becoming Pm completely ruled out any election before 2020.
The difference now being in a very short time she now has decided she is.
The Fixed term parliament act was designed to ensure continuance of govt. for 5 years and to actually stop Prime Ministers calling the shots as to elections that suit them.
Which is why I'd have preferred her to repeal that fixed term act and then call the election.
She is right to want an election when she can win it seems,as would be any PM.
However after so long of saying herself a general election would be wrong, then to suddenly go for one, that is my gripe with her decision and judgement.
For me and again just my view as all posts usually are just people's views on here,that turnaround makes me for one, doubt her word on anything even more than I did before.
He was never popular but calling that lady a bigot live on air kind of sank the nails in his political coffin.
Kizzy
20-04-2017, 07:58 PM
I'm very happy Jez get's more support and stronger daily whereas may looks snide and weak, she has nothing to say but tired old rhetoric... :D
Tom4784
20-04-2017, 08:05 PM
I'd say the criticism towards May is more to do with her constant u-turns.
joeysteele
20-04-2017, 08:30 PM
He was never popular but calling that lady a bigot live on air kind of sank the nails in his political coffin.
Mrs Duffy still voted Labour surprisingly in that election.
It was a shocking moment I agree.
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