Do you want 4 extra bank holidays?

[Cherie]

then vote Labour

we lag behind other countries in bank holidays anyway so its time we had a few more :hee:

[Firewire]

Yes because I get paid more for bank holidays :)

[Shaun]

I have to wonder how many votes this policy would win Labour alone :laugh: it seems like it'd be the most popular incentive for many.

[smudgie]

No.
just another way he wants to screw the economy.

[Braden]

If this doesn't win people over then nothing will :joker:

[joeysteele]

As to shopping a Bank Holiday doesn't make any real difference to anyone.
However I do like how that bit quieter things are on Bank Holidays.

I think more are a good idea so yes why not.
The UK lags behind many other Nations as to Bank Holidays anyway so again,another reason to have a few more.

[Brillopad]

Not if it means a labour government. I'm much more of a believer in short-term pain for long-term gain and not easily tempted by a few tit-bits.

I actually find it very manipulative and intelligence insulting on the part of Corbyn and reeks of desperation.

[ebandit]

..............will it make much difference?

bank holidays are not as they once were..................so many work

Mark L

[user104658]

Don't get bank holibobs off but we do get them as holiday days... wouldn't say no to an extra 4 days holiday a year :hee:.

Though I already get 6 weeks paid holiday. I thought 5 / 6 weeks was pretty standard but apparently not many people get that these days :umm2:.

[reece(:]

Here for 4 more pissups

[the truth]

no another money losing labour gimmick...hows about a comprehensive industrial policy? hows about scrapping the insane labour 2004 GP doctors contract which allowed 90% of doctors to avoid out of hours work, thus putting all the pressure on junior doctors...hows about scrapping sexist womens only shortlists....hows about a comprehensive promise and campaign to eradicate local government waste...hows about matrons in hospitals....hows about putting a limit on the £250,000 wages received by council CEO's who have massive debt.....Hows about they promise to stop taking away civil liberties and free speech ...strengthen complaints procedures and ombudsmen and stop the bullying of nhs workers who wish to legitimately complain...the list is endless...bank holidays isnt even on the list

[Smithy]

If the list is endless then bank holidays may be on it somewhere :think:

[Cal.]

I'm not allowed days off work on bank holidays and don't get paid anymore for it so it makes no difference to me!

[the truth]

If the list is endless then bank holidays may be on it somewhere :think:

nope

[Black Dagger]

Well that's that argument.

[Kazanne]

No , bank holidays do my head in as it is.

[*mazedsalv**]

Quite frankly, I don't care. I am not going to vote.

The reason is because I was sent (and my family) a letter about voting for the whole Brexit vote. We all went to vote, but were refused, because we didn't have a British passport even though most of us were born here.

Waste of time, they could have told us beforehand instead of telling us to vote, and then refuse us when we arrived, publically embarrassing us.

So quite frankly any future political vote can shove my vote up their arse. (we were sent polling cards for this vote too).

Country will go more tits up whatever the outcome.

[UserSince2005]

considering people who vote labour dont work, i do not see the point in this policy. :conf:

[Will.]

Luckily I have a lot of time off as I'm still in education.

But I really do feel that people who work should have more time off, It does seem other countries get a lot more bank holidays.

I'm all for it.

[hijaxers]

considering people who vote labour dont work, i do not see the point in this policy. :conf:

Excuse me ! I think you'll find labour voters are the hardest working people on the lowest wages that keep this country going , doing the manual jobs tory boys expect to be done on slave wages, whilst they sit on their arses handing **** out to everyone else and reaping all the rewards.

[Northern Monkey]

It's a nice idea that reeks of desperation.I don't think it'll help him significantly either.It will help him a little though i think.Bound to be some people who'll vote for that alone.

[Cherie]

I'm not allowed days off work on bank holidays and don't get paid anymore for it so it makes no difference to me!

Unless you are planning to work in the pub for the rest of your life of course it will make a difference :laugh:

[Cherie]

Quite frankly, I don't care. I am not going to vote.

The reason is because I was sent (and my family) a letter about voting for the whole Brexit vote. We all went to vote, but were refused, because we didn't have a British passport even though most of us were born here.

Waste of time, they could have told us beforehand instead of telling us to vote, and then refuse us when we arrived, publically embarrassing us.

So quite frankly any future political vote can shove my vote up their arse. (we were sent polling cards for this vote too).

Country will go more tits up whatever the outcome.

You have to register to vote I don't have a British passport but I can vote so not sure why you were refused

[Cherie]

The Bank holidays would be on the Saints days

1 and 17 March, 23rd April and 30th November, all those 4 day weeks :flutter:

[waterhog]

then vote Labour

we lag behind other countries in bank holidays anyway so its time we had a few more :hee:

I would not vote labour if they were the last party on earth - Jeremy and Gordon has finished them off - we need some new inspiration. :fist:

[Cherie]

I would not vote labour if they were the last party on earth - Jeremy and Gordon has finished them off - we need some new inspiration. :fist:


Teresa May is hardly bristling with new ideas :joker:

[*mazedsalv**]

You have to register to vote I don't have a British passport but I can vote so not sure why you were refused

I registered. I even got the email saying where I should go to vote.

My friends who don't have a Brit passport registered and managed to vote.

We didn't. So I went to the council and demanded answers and they just shrugged when I said others who don't have passports got to vote, so I told them to shove their vote up their arse if the are going to pick and choose.

I have yet to speak to my friend who works at the council when I confronted him about it, haven't spoken to him since the Brexit vote.

They have the audacity to send us polling cards after last time. **** off.

[user104658]

.
We didn't. So I went to the council and demanded answers and they just shrugged when I said others who don't have passports got to vote, so I told them to shove their vote up their arse if the are going to pick and choose.


A true diplomat in our midst :joker:

[joeysteele]

The other thing I love about Bank Holidays,is when I take the dog out,he hates heavy traffic,normal days it can be chronic crossing roads,whereas Bank Holidays make the roads where I am much quieter and easier.
Also no need to wait in for the post either on Bank Holidays.
Yes,I'd vote for more of them.

Then again I won't be here in the Autumn though.

[Cherie]

I registered. I even got the email saying where I should go to vote.

My friends who don't have a Brit passport registered and managed to vote.

We didn't. So I went to the council and demanded answers and they just shrugged when I said others who don't have passports got to vote, so I told them to shove their vote up their arse if the are going to pick and choose.

I have yet to speak to my friend who works at the council when I confronted him about it, haven't spoken to him since the Brexit vote.

They have the audacity to send us polling cards after last time. **** off.



I don't know anyone who had o produce passports to vote in the referendum, sounds like they messed up your registration

[hijaxers]

I would not vote labour if they were the last party on earth - Jeremy and Gordon has finished them off - we need some new inspiration. :fist:

Well i'd rather be tortured than vote tory - so no change for me then - cos its been total torture since they got in ! For so many people, but who cares ?

[Tom4784]

Just another good reason to vote Labour :clap1:

[Northern Monkey]

A true diplomat in our midst :joker:

:joker:

[Kizzy]

You mean if Corbyn was PM I would have worked 12hrs at double time today?!!!

Oi, May! FOFF!!

[jaxie]

This seems like a sort of voters bribary to me and treating voters like fools again. We have no policies but we'll give you a few days off. Not liking it.

[Kizzy]

This seems like a sort of voters bribary to me and treating voters like fools again. We have no policies but we'll give you a few days off. Not liking it.

Labour have loads of policies, have you read the news recently?

Here's a bit of info for you

http://www.jeremyforlabour.com/policies

[*mazedsalv**]

I don't know anyone who had o produce passports to vote in the referendum, sounds like they messed up your registration

Perhaps. Ah well, they'll lose our families votes, not like they care, but I don't care either, let the country go into chaos if they are going to choose who is allowed to vote and who isn't (when they are eligible anyway).

[Cherie]

Perhaps. Ah well, they'll lose our families votes, not like they care, but I don't care either, let the country go into chaos if they are going to choose who is allowed to vote and who isn't (when they are eligible anyway).

Shame if you feel strongly you should vote, don't let some trainee who didn't do their job put you off

[the truth]

The other thing I love about Bank Holidays,is when I take the dog out,he hates heavy traffic,normal days it can be chronic crossing roads,whereas Bank Holidays make the roads where I am much quieter and easier.
Also no need to wait in for the post either on Bank Holidays.
Yes,I'd vote for more of them.

Then again I won't be here in the Autumn though.

eh?
bank holidays are always the worst days to travel

[Kizzy]

eh?
bank holidays are always the worst days to travel

On the coastal roads and such maybe, doubt he walks his dog along A roads or motorways.
England at present has the fewest bank hols compared to the rest of the UK.
Here is how we compare with the rest of the world.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/04/03/happy-easter-almost-everyone-in-the-world-has-more-bank-holidays-than-the-uk-5131970/

[joeysteele]

eh?
bank holidays are always the worst days to travel

Maybe where you are, certainly the main trunk roads will be.
Where I am with some businesses not open and no school runs being done the roads around me have at least only a quarter of the usual chaos there is.

I'm not travelling anywhere Bank Holidays,I was on about taking the dog out.
Mine for one is far more relaxed around the much lesser traffic on Bank Holidays,than the endless line of cars we come across on other days.
Sundays also being a far quieter day for traffic too.

[Livia]

He could offer me an ell expenses-paid month in the Maldives and I still wouldn't vote for him.

[Niamh.]

I would like a 4 day week :hee:

[Kizzy]

My local Tory MP is under investigation for electoral fraud... I shan't be voting for him.

[the truth]

My local Tory MP is under investigation for electoral fraud... I shan't be voting for him.

that's it guilty until proven innocent that's the unjust labour way:nono:

[Kizzy]

that's it guilty until proven innocent that's the unjust labour way:nono:

I didn't suggest he was guilty did I?

I stated he was under investigation is all :nono:

[joeysteele]

I didn't suggest he was guilty did I?

I stated he was under investigation is all :nono:

An ordinary individual under investigation of fraud would almost for sure not be allowed to continue in the same job,being at the very least suspended.

Obviously that mustn't apply to Conservative representatives.

[Livia]

My local Tory MP is under investigation for electoral fraud... I shan't be voting for him.

I doubt he was relying on your vote.

[Kizzy]

I doubt he was relying on your vote.

Why...Is my working class council house dwelling vote not good enough or summat? :/

[Livia]

Why...Is my working class council house dwelling vote not good enough or summat? :/

No, because you're not a Tory supporter, you're a Labour supporter... making the massive assumption that no one working class or living in a council house ever voted Tory.

[Tom4784]

No, because you're not a Tory supporter, you're a Labour supporter... making the massive assumption that no one working class or living in a council house ever voted Tory.

I pity anyone that does because voting Tory when you are of the working class is pretty much shooting yourself in the foot.

[joeysteele]

He could offer me an ell expenses-paid month in the Maldives and I still wouldn't vote for him.

A serious point I'd like to ask you.

It is clear you are never likely to be a supporter of Labour, you do however in the past have expressed admiration for conviction politicians,even as to Tony Benn.

My reading for myself and where I stand now,I actually like many of Corbyn's policies and would like many retained by the leader that follows him.
I also accept that Corbyn is not registering yet with voters he badly needs.

Looking at the Labour party,and you have as strong,if not stronger than me,interest in govt. and politics.
I have come at last to the question,(you know what I'm like),a voter of your standing,while never likely voting Labour yourself.
Who in the current Labour set up could probably bring you to a more neutral feeling as to electoral success for Labour.

I can name several Conservative MPs,I could find myself happy with them winning and being PM.
For me in Labour someone of the style and stature of Dan Jarvis,I'd like to see in the future as a possible leader.

Anyway,I thought I'd ask as Labour needs to start talking to and listening to voters,they may even prefer not to in my view,to find the right and winning way forward again.

[Kizzy]

No, because you're not a Tory supporter, you're a Labour supporter... making the massive assumption that no one working class or living in a council house ever voted Tory.

Seeing as mine is a conservative borough then you would be wrong on that sorry. Your assumption that I'm not aware of this is way off.

[Glenn.]

I'd rather do away with our current bank holidays than have Labour in charge

[Tozzie]

considering people who vote labour dont work, i do not see the point in this policy. :conf:
Oh please....get real

[the truth]

A serious point I'd like to ask you.

It is clear you are never likely to be a supporter of Labour, you do however in the past have expressed admiration for conviction politicians,even as to Tony Benn.

My reading for myself and where I stand now,I actually like many of Corbyn's policies and would like many retained by the leader that follows him.
I also accept that Corbyn is not registering yet with voters he badly needs.

Looking at the Labour party,and you have as strong,if not stronger than me,interest in govt. and politics.
I have come at last to the question,(you know what I'm like),a voter of your standing,while never likely voting Labour yourself.
Who in the current Labour set up could probably bring you to a more neutral feeling as to electoral success for Labour.

I can name several Conservative MPs,I could find myself happy with them winning and being PM.
For me in Labour someone of the style and stature of Dan Jarvis,I'd like to see in the future as a possible leader.

Anyway,I thought I'd ask as Labour needs to start talking to and listening to voters,they may even prefer not to in my view,to find the right and winning way forward again.

nia griffiths will be the next leader

[jaxie]

A serious point I'd like to ask you.

It is clear you are never likely to be a supporter of Labour, you do however in the past have expressed admiration for conviction politicians,even as to Tony Benn.

My reading for myself and where I stand now,I actually like many of Corbyn's policies and would like many retained by the leader that follows him.
I also accept that Corbyn is not registering yet with voters he badly needs.

Looking at the Labour party,and you have as strong,if not stronger than me,interest in govt. and politics.
I have come at last to the question,(you know what I'm like),a voter of your standing,while never likely voting Labour yourself.
Who in the current Labour set up could probably bring you to a more neutral feeling as to electoral success for Labour.

I can name several Conservative MPs,I could find myself happy with them winning and being PM.
For me in Labour someone of the style and stature of Dan Jarvis,I'd like to see in the future as a possible leader.

Anyway,I thought I'd ask as Labour needs to start talking to and listening to voters,they may even prefer not to in my view,to find the right and winning way forward again.

Hilary Benn would make a good leader, even though he and I don't really agree on Brexit.

[Kizzy]

Hilary Ben is the next blair, he sabotaged Milliband at the debates in Leeds during the GE.

[Livia]

I pity anyone that does because voting Tory when you are of the working class is pretty much shooting yourself in the foot.

Werll, that's your opinion, Dezzy. It doesn't reduce the fact that working class peoplke, thinking people, intelligent people... disagree.

[Livia]

Seeing as mine is a conservative borough then you would be wrong on that sorry. Your assumption that I'm not aware of this is way off.

I said your local candidate would not be relying on your vote. Y ou tried to twist it and say your Council House vote is not worthy... You've got quite a lot of mileage out of that comment now. How I miss grown up debate.

[Livia]

A serious point I'd like to ask you.

It is clear you are never likely to be a supporter of Labour, you do however in the past have expressed admiration for conviction politicians,even as to Tony Benn.

My reading for myself and where I stand now,I actually like many of Corbyn's policies and would like many retained by the leader that follows him.
I also accept that Corbyn is not registering yet with voters he badly needs.

Looking at the Labour party,and you have as strong,if not stronger than me,interest in govt. and politics.
I have come at last to the question,(you know what I'm like),a voter of your standing,while never likely voting Labour yourself.
Who in the current Labour set up could probably bring you to a more neutral feeling as to electoral success for Labour.

I can name several Conservative MPs,I could find myself happy with them winning and being PM.
For me in Labour someone of the style and stature of Dan Jarvis,I'd like to see in the future as a possible leader.

Anyway,I thought I'd ask as Labour needs to start talking to and listening to voters,they may even prefer not to in my view,to find the right and winning way forward again.

That's a fair question joey. I am an admirer of Hilary Ben, just like I was an admirer of his father. I feel that both of them have an integrity that I just don't see in Corbyn. Also, I have voted Labour in the past, when I lived in London I voted a couple of times for Stephen Timms, a very hard-working MP. I remember frequently coming back to East Ham on a late train to see Stephen Timms working away quietly in the corner. I also voted for my local Christian vicar as a Parish councillor because he was committed and fair.

[Tom4784]

Werll, that's your opinion, Dezzy. It doesn't reduce the fact that working class peoplke, thinking people, intelligent people... disagree.

They obviously aren't thinking if they are working class and voting Tory given how the Tories are adamant on privatising everything and cutting public services funding.

It's the working class that loses out in a Tory government and we've seen it happen time and time again in the past few years alone.

[joeysteele]

That's a fair question joey. I am an admirer of Hilary Ben, just like I was an admirer of his father. I feel that both of them have an integrity that I just don't see in Corbyn. Also, I have voted Labour in the past, when I lived in London I voted a couple of times for Stephen Timms, a very hard-working MP. I remember frequently coming back to East Ham on a late train to see Stephen Timms working away quietly in the corner. I also voted for my local Christian vicar as a Parish councillor because he was committed and fair.

Thank you for that.
I respect stephen Timms too.

It's interesting to know who in politics can pull in respect.
Many politicians,probably the majority all mean well and want to change things for the better if they get a chance to.

Hilary Benn does seem to cut through with people of all political persuasions, 2 including yourself,have mentioned him.
I find a lot more off here warm to him too.

Interesting.

[Withano]

Im starting to feel like this election, for most people, is choosing between a poorer leader with better policies, or a better leader with worser policies. I just dont understand why theyre choosing 5 years of worser policies for the sake of one mans personality.

[Beso]

1 fact i can add is i am far better off financiaĺly under the torys than i ever was under labour.

[the truth]

They obviously aren't thinking if they are working class and voting Tory given how the Tories are adamant on privatising everything and cutting public services funding.

It's the working class that loses out in a Tory government and we've seen it happen time and time again in the past few years alone.

That is student union politics for children and its simply untrue

labour babktupted the economy and treasury so there was no money left for all the free handouts labour voters demand. They live in cloud cuckoo land where money is wasted, gold is sold cheap, mps are paid off by corporations who labour let off their taxes, they sold us out to europe, the signed a 400 page EU constitution with 10000s of laws that strangled all small businesses...they allowed the population rise by nearly 10 million in 13 years...they encouraged breeding for benefits, debts went up, employment went down...they spent billions on illegal wars too ....they doubled/trebled the wages of council ceo's and hospital doctors....but allowed all GP doctors to opt out of out of hours work. Thus putting all the workload on hospital doctors instead. Theyre a bunch of hypocritical failures. oh and anyone who questioned their insane masterplan was called a sexist racist etc etc

[the truth]

Im starting to feel like this election, for most people, is choosing between a poorer leader with better policies, or a better leader with worser policies. I just dont understand why theyre choosing 5 years of worser policies for the sake of one mans personality.

worser doesnt exist

[the truth]

That's a fair question joey. I am an admirer of Hilary Ben, just like I was an admirer of his father. I feel that both of them have an integrity that I just don't see in Corbyn. Also, I have voted Labour in the past, when I lived in London I voted a couple of times for Stephen Timms, a very hard-working MP. I remember frequently coming back to East Ham on a late train to see Stephen Timms working away quietly in the corner. I also voted for my local Christian vicar as a Parish councillor because he was committed and fair.

Good post , great to see someone with an open and VERY intelligent mind

[the truth]

1 fact i can add is i am far better off financiaĺly under the torys than i ever was under labour.

Nearly everyone is, especially those who actually work ...Though VAT is a massive issue that teresa may must put to bed

[DemolitionRed]

Good post , great to see someone with an open and VERY intelligent mind

Yeah, why don't you try it sometime!

[DemolitionRed]

Nearly everyone is, especially those who actually work ...Though VAT is a massive issue that teresa may must put to bed

You just make siht up as you go along.

[the truth]

You just make siht up as you go along.

oh you swore how impressive...did you think that up yourself or did the trade union write that for you

[DemolitionRed]

you know, I'm alright jock. Husband runs a cash rich business. I don't need to work but I choose to because I consider my work a hobby. We have a very nice home in a prime part of inner London for a mere pittance. We ski in the French and Italian Alps in the winter and travel the globe to different climbing destinations in the summer. To top it all we will both get a whopping inheritance at some point on the future... so why the hell would I support Labour politics? I mean, I'm alright jock!

Short answer... we have kids who are growing into young adults and I don't like watching our present government fcuk them over.

[DemolitionRed]

oh you swore how impressive...did you think that up yourself or did the trade union write that for you

I swear a lot when I'm angry but I'm not allowed to on here because of the PC brigade.

[Kizzy]

I said your local candidate would not be relying on your vote. Y ou tried to twist it and say your Council House vote is not worthy... You've got quite a lot of mileage out of that comment now. How I miss grown up debate.

Er... soon to be ex council home actually :smug:

If you want grown up debate then treat others on the forum with a bit of respect your patronising tones are wearing mighty thin.

[Kizzy]

I swear a lot when I'm angry but I'm not allowed to on here because of the PC brigade.

Bollocks :)

[DemolitionRed]

Bollocks :)

TUTs loundly :fist:

[Amy Jade]

Will they tease voters with this and then if elected never implement it? most likely.

[smudgie]

Will they tease voters with this and then if elected never implement it? most likely.

Could do just that, the same as the £10 an hour minimum wage.
The country would be heading for bankruptcy, so many small businesses could not afford it.
Nice thought, but we have to live in the real world. You can't have your cake and eat it.:shrug:

[DemolitionRed]

Could do just that, the same as the £10 an hour minimum wage.
The country would be heading for bankruptcy, so many small businesses could not afford it.
Nice thought, but we have to live in the real world. You can't have your cake and eat it.:shrug:

How can anyone survive on £7.50 an hour? That's £296.25 for a 39.5 hour week after tax and NI.

Fine if you are living with your parents but if you are on your own and burdened with essential costs such as Rent, council tax, energy bills, food shopping, travel fares; you simply can't survive. You certainly won't be buying cake to eat!!

[joeysteele]

How can anyone survive on £7.50 an hour? That's £296.25 for a 39.5 hour week after tax and NI.

Fine if you are living with your parents but if you are on your own and burdened with essential costs such as Rent, council tax, energy bills, food shopping, travel fares; you simply can't survive. You certainly won't be buying cake to eat!!


Excellent points.

I see no reason why Labour would not honour the £10 min wage.
They never turned back on bringing a minimum wage in,despite the Conservatives being totally against it and all saying companies could not afford a minimum wage.
All which proved to be rubbish.

As for extra Bank Holidays. It's not that many more and we have far less than some other Nations.
This is 2 good moves of Labour.
Far better than the ugly threats of the Conservatives towards the sick,disabled and weakest of society for sure, that unbelievably gets support as people vote Conservative.

If people support May and her hoods doing that no wonder they won't support a decent minimum wage and a few more Bank Holidays.
That speaks volumes.

[user104658]

They're already pushing towards a £9 an hour minimum wage, I don't see how the extra £1 suddenly means that "small businesses would be bankrupt" (if they wouldn't already under current Tory plans)...

But yeah, if it's impossible to live on the minimum wage then something has gone very wrong with an economy. Of course, the two major factors that currently make it impossible - in my opinion - are not the wage levels themselves, but rather, sky-high cost of essentials. Private rent, utility bills, fuel. Those are the things that make it impossible.

[Livia]

Er... soon to be ex council home actually :smug:

If you want grown up debate then treat others on the forum with a bit of respect your patronising tones are wearing mighty thin.

Ex-council home, eh? Taking advantage of the Conservative's Right to Buy?

I made my comment simply because you're a Labour supporter, and I think that you know that. You chose to take it as a patronising slur on your class and house. The chip on your shoulder is the thing that's wearing mighty thin.

[smudgie]

How can anyone survive on £7.50 an hour? That's £296.25 for a 39.5 hour week after tax and NI.

Fine if you are living with your parents but if you are on your own and burdened with essential costs such as Rent, council tax, energy bills, food shopping, travel fares; you simply can't survive. You certainly won't be buying cake to eat!!

I don't disagree with a rise in minimum wages, I just think a 25% in one go would be hard to handle for some smaller business.
As long as it is staggered I have absolutely no problem with it going even higher than the £10 mentioned.
As to the cake, it was the politicians that can't have their cake and eat it, not us mere voters.