Corbyn poses 'terror risk' to UK

[Northern Monkey]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/795274/general-election-jeremy-corbyn-terror-patrick-mcloughlin-prime-minister/amp

[Cherie]

Now if you are looking for something reeking of desperation, that's it :laugh:

[reece(:]

A scaremongering tea

[user104658]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/795274/general-election-jeremy-corbyn-terror-patrick-mcloughlin-prime-minister/amp

Crock of sh*te. But nothing like using the good ol' "Terror" buzzword in your election propaganda, really gets the proletarian shaking in his boots.

My dodgy copy of Donnie Darko probably killed hundreds, too :worry:

http://www.filmcement.org/rummage/images/DVD_Piracy01.gif

[joeysteele]

Of course he doesn't, absolutely not.

[smudgie]

He has a point, he can't bring himself to say he would arm the subs.
I can understand his viewpoint ( not that I agree with it) , but he has to sit and write that letter telling the Vanguard class subs to press the button if we are attacked.
I think it simply goes against his principles.:shrug:

[user104658]

He has a point, he can't bring himself to say he would arm the subs.
I can understand his viewpoint ( not that I agree with it) , but he has to sit and write that letter telling the Vanguard class subs to press the button if we are attacked.
I think it simply goes against his principles.:shrug:

Jesus Christ, when are people going to realise that "if we are attacked" it's already too late and it doesn't matter who presses what buttons.

[Tom4784]

Jesus Christ, when are people going to realise that "if we are attacked" it's already too late and it doesn't matter who presses what buttons.

Pretty much.

[smudgie]

Jesus Christ, when are people going to realise that "if we are attacked" it's already too late and it doesn't matter who presses what buttons.

Well Jesus Christ, I think we will hopefully know we are going to be attacked before we actually get nuked and nuke the idiots before we fry.

[Shaun]

Are we really having a conversation about who nukes who first in a thread having a go about Jeremy Corbyn possibly welcoming terrorist attacks?

[user104658]

Well Jesus Christ, I think we will hopefully know we are going to be attacked before we actually get nuked and nuke the idiots before we fry.

Doesn't work that way I'm afraid. They launch, we launch or we lauch, they launch. There is no "one sided" nuclear strike. If we are attacked with nuclear weapons, or ever fire a nuclear weapon, your best and only hope is to be within the immediate blast radius of one of the first few bombs so that your death is as quick and painless as possible. This is the reality of Nuclear weapons and Nuclear warfare. The sooner people get their heads around that, the better.

[smudgie]

Doesn't work that way I'm afraid. They launch, we launch or we lauch, they launch. There is no "one sided" nuclear strike. If we are attacked with nuclear weapons, or ever fire a nuclear weapon, your best and only hope is to be within the immediate blast radius of one of the first few bombs so that your death is as quick and painless as possible. This is the reality of Nuclear weapons and Nuclear warfare. The sooner people get their heads around that, the better.

Yes, we will all fry together.
However knowing that we will press the button if we have to instead of just sitting like a pan of fishfingers waiting to fry would help.
Saying he would not be happy with drones picking off terrorist leaders doesn't help either.
The fact that the labour spokesman had to come out and explain that his views are not labour policy is quite telling.

[ebandit]

Doesn't work that way I'm afraid. They launch, we launch or we lauch, they launch. There is no "one sided" nuclear strike. If we are attacked with nuclear weapons,.

.........luckily only a limited no of nations have nuclear capability.......

i believe russia usa uk france china india pakistan north korea..........possibly

israel

greatest terrorist threat is very much low tech

Mark L

[Northern Monkey]

I mean i agree with it.I've been saying it about Corbyn for ages.It is transparent as feck though that this comes out again now in the run up to the electrician.It's too obvious that it's election propaganda even if it is true.

[Northern Monkey]

Doesn't work that way I'm afraid. They launch, we launch or we lauch, they launch. There is no "one sided" nuclear strike. If we are attacked with nuclear weapons, or ever fire a nuclear weapon, your best and only hope is to be within the immediate blast radius of one of the first few bombs so that your death is as quick and painless as possible. This is the reality of Nuclear weapons and Nuclear warfare. The sooner people get their heads around that, the better.

This is true.One up and all up.
There has been talk of small scale tactical nukes though.If one sides forces are getting hammered.Obviously you wouldn't use it against another nuclear power like Russia or China but i could see Trump using against NK or Iran.

[smudgie]

I mean i agree with it.I've been saying it about Corbyn for ages.It is transparent as feck though that this comes out again now in the run up to the electrician.It's too obvious that it's election propaganda even if it is true.

His interview this morning didn't help:joker:

[user104658]

This is true.One up and all up.
There has been talk of small scale tactical nukes though.If one sides forces are getting hammered.Obviously you wouldn't use it against another nuclear power like Russia or China but i could see Trump using against NK or Iran.

Trump will probably hit NK as soon as China gives the green light and says that NK is no longer under their protection tbh.

[smudgie]

Trump will probably hit NK as soon as China gives the green light and says that NK is no longer under their protection tbh.

Yes, I can see that on the cards, I always thought George Bush jnr. was trigger happy but Trump makes him look like the milky bar kid in comparison.

[Brillopad]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/795274/general-election-jeremy-corbyn-terror-patrick-mcloughlin-prime-minister/amp

Also not only will he let everyone and his cat in he will invite them in and I doubt he will be too fastidious about security checks - he would be more concerned about their human rights!

[user104658]

Yes, I can see that on the cards, I always thought George Bush jnr. was trigger happy but Trump makes him look like the milky bar kid in comparison.

I always felt (and even moreso now considering some of what he's said since leaving office) that Bush was little more than a figurehead. There are always people behind the scenes pulling the strings but I think Bush was essentially pretty much never acting on his own decisions, it was all driven by advisors. Trump is increasingly looking like a loose cannon.

[Northern Monkey]

Trump will probably hit NK as soon as China gives the green light and says that NK is no longer under their protection tbh.

I wonder if China would rather go in themselves and sort Kim Jong out than let America go in and increase their sphere of influence in the area.

[Kizzy]

:joker:

[the truth]

Are we really having a conversation about who nukes who first in a thread having a go about Jeremy Corbyn possibly welcoming terrorist attacks?

yes or would you rather do what labour always do, duck the tough questions

[smudgie]

I always felt (and even moreso now considering some of what he's said since leaving office) that Bush was little more than a figurehead. There are always people behind the scenes pulling the strings but I think Bush was essentially pretty much never acting on his own decisions, it was all driven by advisors. Trump is increasingly looking like a loose cannon.

Yes, he certainly thinks he can do and say what he wants..hopefully those behind him can keep control.

[Kizzy]

Yes that's what people want in the leader of the free world someone who needs babysitting :/

[Scarlett.]

Well Jesus Christ, I think we will hopefully know we are going to be attacked before we actually get nuked and nuke the idiots before we fry.

What would be the point? I mean, we'd all pretty much be dust, and the world would be in ruin, what is the point in contributing to the end of mankind with more nukes? By that point the world as we know it is over. Launching nukes at that point is just making sure all humans die.

[the truth]

can a nuclear missile actually be destroyed whilst in flight? I know we have a defence system. Ignore the movies, I dont think we can stop these missiles once launched and we cant stop meteorites either

When you break it down how insane is this world and the idiots running it....endless wars, endless famine ,a single footballer paid 1000 times as much per week as a fireman? literally trillions more spent on bombs than on feeding the starving and enough bombs to blow up the entire world 1000000 times over

[user104658]

can a nuclear missile actually be destroyed whilst in flight? I know we have a defence system. Ignore the movies, I dont think we can stop these missiles once launched and we cant stop meteorites either

When you break it down how insane is this world and the idiots running it....endless wars, endless famine ,a single footballer paid 1000 times as much per week as a fireman? literally trillions more spent on bombs than on feeding the starving and enough bombs to blow up the entire world 1000000 times over
There are anti ICBM systems, I think only the US and Russia have working ones though and the Russian one specifically protects Moscow rather than the country. Effectiveness is another question though. Missiles can be blown up in flight or downed (effective for the US as they'd likely be coming in over the Pacific so can safely-ish be crashed into the ocean) but, basically, if you're talking full scale multiple launches, it would only be able to take down a few and most would get through.

In other words, if NK launched one little nuke at the US it would probably be downed. If Russia and the US started firing their stockpiles at each other, it would be as much use as a pea-shooter.

[Beso]

Of course he does and i am not sure why it is such a surprise considering how much IRA cock hes sucked over the years...ooo gerry, oh martin..deeper deeper.

[Kizzy]

Of course he does and i am not sure why it is such a surprise considering how much IRA cock hes sucked over the years...ooo gerry, oh martin..deeper deeper.

Wasn't it blair who oversaw the Irish peace process?

[joeysteele]

What would be the point? I mean, we'd all pretty much be dust, and the world would be in ruin, what is the point in contributing to the end of mankind with more nukes? By that point the world as we know it is over. Launching nukes at that point is just making sure all humans die.

Strong points Chewy.

Again I am reminded of a song from the 1960s I have on a cd by Barry Maguire.
It's called Eve of Destruction.
A line says, '' once the button is pushed,there's no running away,there'll be no one to save with the World in a grave''.

Terrifying thought.

[Beso]

Wasn't it blair who oversaw the Irish peace process?

Corbyn was cosying up to the ira long before that stupid twunt came into power.

[DemolitionRed]

Corbyn was cosying up to the ira long before that stupid twunt came into power.

Really, REALLY! do you have any idea how ignorant you sound?

Everyone, including Thatcher, wanted a peace resolution but it was Corbyn and his staff under the instruction of Mo Mowlan, that brought about Irish unity and an end to the long war. Corbyn played a big hand in stopping British citizens getting their legs blown off on the way home from work and he played a big hand in the ending of 'kneecapping' in NI and all you have to say is he sucked dick...WTF

Know your history and stop reading the tabloids that piggy-back nonsense reports off one another.

[Beso]

Really, REALLY! do you have any idea how ignorant you sound?

Everyone, including Thatcher, wanted a peace resolution but it was Corbyn and his staff under the instruction of Mo Mowlan, that brought about Irish unity and an end to the long war. Corbyn played a big hand in stopping British citizens getting their legs blown off on the way home from work and he played a big hand in the ending of 'kneecapping' in NI and all you have to say is he sucked dick...WTF

Know your history and stop reading the tabloids that piggy-back nonsense reports off one another.




I don't care what you or anyone thinks. :shrug: so that's not an issue.

I believe all 3 will have been present at some sordid special event. That is where i begin my research.

I also believe the IRA at the end was so ****ed up with drugs they had no other option but seek a peace agreement.

The cowards and traitors at the head of government at the time basically pardoned some truelly evil people for the sake of it.

[DemolitionRed]

I don't care what you or anyone thinks. :shrug: so that's not an issue.

I believe all 3 will have been present at some sordid special event. That is where i begin my research.

I also believe the IRA at the end was so ****ed up with drugs they had no other option but seek a peace agreement.

The cowards and traitors at the head of government at the time basically pardoned some truelly evil people for the sake of it.

And if they hadn't, where would we be now... still in the long war?

[Northern Monkey]

His interview this morning didn't help:joker:

I just watched it....

:joker:



Is he deliberately trying to lose this election or what?

Sat there playing dodgeball with Marr's questions on important security and defence issues

Then the shadow defence secretary on the Daily Politics today trying to smooth it out and totally contradicting Corbyn.

It's embarrassing to spectate

[Kizzy]

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https://www.thecanary.co/2017/04/24/shop-workers-election-image-shows-tories-want-talk-trident-going-viral/

[reece(:]

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https://www.thecanary.co/2017/04/24/shop-workers-election-image-shows-tories-want-talk-trident-going-viral/
Jezza the PM for the people :clap1::clap1:

[Northern Monkey]

Ya might get nuked but don't worry about it,You'll get four extra bank holidays!

great :thumbs:

[Scarlett.]

Ya might get nuked but don't worry about it,You'll get four extra bank holidays!

great :thumbs:

Why would anyone nuke us? :shrug: there is currently no real risk of that happening.

[Brother Leon]

Yeah. Not like he warned us all that bombing and invading Iraq along with meddling in Libya and Syria would result in more terrorists or anything...

[Beso]

And if they hadn't, where would we be now... still in the long war?

I doubt it very much.. the IRA would probably have disintegrated from the inside by now. But lets celebrate people pardoning murderers though. Ohh martin you are my hero, my freedom fighter..**** the queen.

No corbyn, **** you you terrorist sympathising scumbag.

[Northern Monkey]

Why would anyone nuke us? :shrug: there is currently no real risk of that happening.

Well with half of Europes nuclear deterrent gone who knows who might take advantage.

[Kizzy]

Well with half of Europes nuclear deterrent gone who knows who might take advantage.

France has a nuke, they are 25 miles away. It only takes one to end the world.

[DemolitionRed]

I doubt it very much.. the IRA would probably have disintegrated from the inside by now.

Ah ok, so we should just leave terrorism alone until it self combusts! More lives will be lost in the waiting but collateral damage is better than trying to work out strategies that will stop lone wolf attacks. :conf:


But lets celebrate people pardoning murderers though. Ohh martin you are my hero, my freedom fighter..**** the queen.

No corbyn, **** you you terrorist sympathising scumbag.

The IRA were a side kick from the Irish civil war and hadn’t surrendered their arms since 1919. They had been blowing the Brits up since 1931 and we all know that there main intent was to rid Ireland of British rule. If we need to prosecute Sinn Fein for terrorist atrocities we need to do the same with President Clinton and his then government, who are well known for looking after Sinn Fein’s interests. At best they sympathized with the IRA and at worst, the U.S. NSC were aiding their cause with money and weapons. Popular opinion in the U.S. were very much behind the IRA but it appears that we forgive them.

As for the Good Friday Agreement, started by the Conservatives and concluded by Labour we at last found a solution for dismantling the IRA, (well thank fcuk for that) and the people involved in bringing about that agreement are now being called traitors by the ignorant few. :fist:

[Kizzy]

Are people at a loss as to what diplomats do?... They use diplomacy to solve issues before they escalate to violence.

What could anyone have against that, is the concept of a civil society lost in the UK?

[user104658]

Well with half of Europes nuclear deterrent gone who knows who might take advantage.

Literally, who?

[joeysteele]

Whether in agreement with Corbyn or not on Nuclear weapons, he would place himself as more unilaterally and always has,no change from him at all.
I'd prefer to see the things done away with and someone needs to start a serious attempt to get that ball rolling.
Corbyn will be bound by Labour Party policy anyway.

I found his interview with Marr fine, it appears to some,no matter what he says he will never get any credit for being right,even when he is.

It comes across at times that policies that will devastate areas of other Nations,(unless it's a Labour govt.doing so),also investing massive funding for nuclear programmes,(which could wipe out all races),and finally policies of robbing already agreed entitlements from the sick and disabled,even those terminally sick too.
Are policies people will support,policies which all come from this present Conservative party.
Not content to increase interference in other Nations,invest in the possible world destruction nuclear set up, destroy the lives of sick and disabled people,this awful lot with a greater majority,would also turn their venom to wildlife too,by making legal again foxhunting for instance.

The appetite of this present PM and her truly uncompromising and heartless govt.to inflict misery seems to now have no boundaries whatsoever.

[DemolitionRed]

Are people at a loss as to what diplomats do?... They use diplomacy to solve issues before they escalate to violence.

What could anyone have against that, is the concept of a civil society lost in the UK?

If you are told a lie (national tabloids) repeatedly and you give yourself no opportunity to further research those lies, you will believe what you are told...

Here's a man who wants to give more power to the people; a man who wants more fairness for working class Britain and who wants to find diplomatic solutions with known terrorist groups in an attempt to stop what our current government have miserably failed to do and the very people who need him the most; the serfdom; the people who have been hoodwinked, are calling him a monster and a terrorist dick sucker. :conf:

There's no hope. More and more of us are becoming enthusiastic captives of neo-liberalism. It reminds me of that alien film when they are all standing looking up at the blue light and shouting, "WE LOVE YOU" just before they're evaporated.

[Kizzy]

If you are told a lie (national tabloids) repeatedly and you give yourself no opportunity to further research those lies, you will believe what you are told...

Here's a man who wants to give more power to the people; a man who wants more fairness for working class Britain and who wants to find diplomatic solutions with known terrorist groups in an attempt to stop what our current government have miserably failed to do and the very people who need him the most; the serfdom; the people who have been hoodwinked, are calling him a monster and a terrorist dick sucker. :conf:

There's no hope. More and more of us are becoming enthusiastic captives of neo-liberalism. It reminds me of that alien film when they are all standing looking up at the blue light and shouting, "WE LOVE YOU" just before they're evaporated.


:joker::joker: :joker: Bang on DR!!

[Gusto Brunt]

I can't stand our current defence secretary, Michael Fallon. He's such a cowardly weasel.

He brags how tough he is on Korea and Russia but would he fight? Not on your Nellie.

He'd been in his bunker, hiding behind Teresa May's skirt.

[Livia]

Ah ok, so we should just leave terrorism alone until it self combusts! More lives will be lost in the waiting but collateral damage is better than trying to work out strategies that will stop lone wolf attacks. :conf:



The IRA were a side kick from the Irish civil war and hadn’t surrendered their arms since 1919. They had been blowing the Brits up since 1931 and we all know that there main intent was to rid Ireland of British rule. If we need to prosecute Sinn Fein for terrorist atrocities we need to do the same with President Clinton and his then government, who are well known for looking after Sinn Fein’s interests. At best they sympathized with the IRA and at worst, the U.S. NSC were aiding their cause with money and weapons. Popular opinion in the U.S. were very much behind the IRA but it appears that we forgive them.

As for the Good Friday Agreement, started by the Conservatives and concluded by Labour we at last found a solution for dismantling the IRA, (well thank fcuk for that) and the people involved in bringing about that agreement are now being called traitors by the ignorant few. :fist:



While the IRA have been granted pardons and freedom from prosecution, and some of their murderers have taken jobs of high-profile responsibility within their government, British Soldier who at the time were acting on the orders of the British government, are still being prosecuted. And Corbyn was an IRA supporter... and probably still is. He's also an apologist for a variety of dictators in the Middle East. I think that support for Muslim dictatorships and terrorist groups has led to the much-denied anti-Semitism displayed by some of his followers who can't tell the difference between Jews and Israelis. And no amount of denial will change that fact.

It's a mystery to me why the Left always take up the cause of anyone but indiginous Brits. Even in Labours manifesto they make it clear they will fight for the rights of foreign workers in the UK post-Brexit. Not a frickin' word about British people in Europe. But then, the I've witnesses the Left mostly describe them as beer-swilling, bingo-playing "Little Brittons" on the Costa del Sol, and totally ignore the medics, the businessmen and women, the teachers, the scientists etc. And I've seen you yourself post that British culture is nothing more than wondering whether or not to take an umbrella with you.

[Beso]

Ah ok, so we should just leave terrorism alone until it self combusts! More lives will be lost in the waiting but collateral damage is better than trying to work out strategies that will stop lone wolf attacks. :conf:



The IRA were a side kick from the Irish civil war and hadn’t surrendered their arms since 1919. They had been blowing the Brits up since 1931 and we all know that there main intent was to rid Ireland of British rule. If we need to prosecute Sinn Fein for terrorist atrocities we need to do the same with President Clinton and his then government, who are well known for looking after Sinn Fein’s interests. At best they sympathized with the IRA and at worst, the U.S. NSC were aiding their cause with money and weapons. Popular opinion in the U.S. were very much behind the IRA but it appears that we forgive them.

As for the Good Friday Agreement, started by the Conservatives and concluded by Labour we at last found a solution for dismantling the IRA, (well thank fcuk for that) and the people involved in bringing about that agreement are now being called traitors by the ignorant few. :fist:

So you would be happy for someone who blew a family member of yours to smitherenes to be released from jail after a few months?


And its wildely accepted that corbyns buddy martin m was present at many kneecappings and murders.

[Beso]

If you are told a lie (national tabloids) repeatedly and you give yourself no opportunity to further research those lies, you will believe what you are told...

Here's a man who wants to give more power to the people; a man who wants more fairness for working class Britain and who wants to find diplomatic solutions with known terrorist groups in an attempt to stop what our current government have miserably failed to do and the very people who need him the most; the serfdom; the people who have been hoodwinked, are calling him a monster and a terrorist dick sucker. :conf:

There's no hope. More and more of us are becoming enthusiastic captives of neo-liberalism. It reminds me of that alien film when they are all standing looking up at the blue light and shouting, "WE LOVE YOU" just before they're evaporated.


Here we go again..anyone with a view has obviously been hoodwinked by the tabloids..hohum.

Well i dont read tabloids or any newspaper.. i do get my info from real life and documentaries featuring the people involved in the subject matter...dont judge everyone by your own standards, or did you make the tabloid thing up yourself:shrug:

[Kizzy]

While the IRA have been granted pardons and freedom from prosecution, and some of their murderers have taken jobs of high-profile responsibility within their government, British Soldier who at the time were acting on the orders of the British government, are still being prosecuted. And Corbyn was an IRA supporter... and probably still is. He's also an apologist for a variety of dictators in the Middle East. I think that support for Muslim dictatorships and terrorist groups has led to the much-denied anti-Semitism displayed by some of his followers who can't tell the difference between Jews and Israelis. And no amount of denial will change that fact.

It's a mystery to me why the Left always take up the cause of anyone but indiginous Brits. Even in Labours manifesto they make it clear they will fight for the rights of foreign workers in the UK post-Brexit. Not a frickin' word about British people in Europe. But then, the I've witnesses the Left mostly describe them as beer-swilling, bingo-playing "Little Brittons" on the Costa del Sol, and totally ignore the medics, the businessmen and women, the teachers, the scientists etc. And I've seen you yourself post that British culture is nothing more than wondering whether or not to take an umbrella with you.

What 'fact' you're redirecting the blame for an individuals behaviour onto another... that's ridiculous and wrong.
Have you heard of accountability? :/

'The left'... is that the new blanket term you're adopting as a slur? Well could be worse I suppose.
Of course the rights of workers in the EU are an issue as are ex pats, but as those who voted remain are constantly reminded what's the point 'remoaning?' We've voted out....What's the matter, are you not quite as ecstatic about it as you thought you would be?

Cry me a river, I have a brolly.

[Brother Leon]

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Look at Corbyn talking with these black gangsta rappers. What a danger to society this man is.