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Firewire
24-04-2017, 09:36 PM
We could be less than a week away from a writers’ strike against TV and movie studios. Negotiations resume Tuesday — when the Writers Guild of America announces results of a strike authorization vote — ahead of a May 1 deadline, but if talks between the union and the group representing studios and production companies don’t result in a new contract, a strike will begin on May 2.

A strike wouldn’t affect the end of the current TV season (for the most part, anyway). If it lasts a while, however — the 2007-08 writers’ strike went on for 100 days — you’d likely have to wait longer than usual for the start of fall TV.

We’ll get to what each side wants later, but first up, let’s look at what on-screen product will look like if a strike happens.

What if a strike happens?

If you don’t watch late-night shows, you probably won’t notice many changes right away. Shows like “The Tonight Show,” “The Daily Show” and “Jimmy Kimmel Live” would be the first casualties and would go into repeats pretty much immediately. The final episodes of “Saturday Night Live’s” season, scheduled for May 6, 13 and 20, would be in jeopardy as well since the show is written week to week.

Production on just about all primetime shows will be wrapped by May 1, so schedules for the remainder of the TV season will be unaffected. Summer schedules on the broadcast networks should remain more or less intact, since they’re heavy on unscripted shows. The handful of scripted series in the summer should be (mostly) set too.

The big streaming services will also proceed as normal for a while, since their all-at-once release model means production has to be done before a show premieres. Cable shows might be more case by case.

The big question will be the fall schedule, which the broadcast networks announce the week of May 15. Network shows typically convene writers’ rooms in June and start production in July. A strike lasting more than a couple weeks could imperil that timetable and push the start of the fall season back from its traditional late-September launch.

Several high-profile cable and streaming shows — including “The Walking Dead,” “Jessica Jones” and “American Horror Story” — are slated to start production in May. “Star Trek Discovery,” the new “Trek” series destined for CBS All Access, will be midway through filming its first season. A strike would disrupt schedules for all of them.

What the writers want

The Writers Guild notes that even though the Peak TV era has created more jobs for writers, wages have been falling for most writers thanks to shorter seasons and script fees per episode stretching over more time.

Per The Hollywood Reporter, the number scripted shows shot up by 46 percent (266 to 389) between the 2011-12 and 2014-15 seasons. Yet in the same time period, the number of episodes made grew by only 6 percent (4,806 to 5,091) as streaming services, cable channels and, increasingly, broadcast networks all aired more shorter-run shows. The guild says more than two thirds of shows produced in 2015-16 aired 13 or fewer episodes.

(Both sides are refraining from public comment on the negotiations while talks are still planned.)

Further, the guild says that script fees per episode are being stretched over a longer time than in the past — as long as three weeks, where the previous standard was two. That effectively lowers a writer’s weekly pay. Writers also want more flexibility to work on more than one short-run show per year; currently they’re often held on exclusive deals that can leave them idle for several months.

The guild also wants more contributions to the union health plan from studios; parity for script fees across network, cable and streaming shows; and better residuals. The union says profit at the six major studios has doubled since the 2007-08 strike, and it’s only asking for a slightly larger piece of an expanded pie.

What the studios say

The Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers, which negotiates with Hollywood unions on behalf of studios, has reportedly offered some concessions with regard to exclusivity and pay, at least for lower-level writers. Health coverage remains a big point of contention.

Studio sources have also complained that the profit figure the WGA cites for the six major entertainment companies — $51 billion in 2015 — includes profits from other parts of their business. The union counters that almost $34 billion of that profit comes from work written by Writers Guild members.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/more-tv-news/potential-writers-strike-fallout-late-night-goes-dark-fall-launch-could-get-pushed/

T*
24-04-2017, 09:37 PM
wasnt there one of these during like 2007 that destroyed tv shows

Jarrod
24-04-2017, 09:37 PM
Didn't CBS just slap another edition of Big Brother USA on the last time this happened?

Tom4784
24-04-2017, 09:37 PM
Can they not?

Firewire
24-04-2017, 09:41 PM
wasnt there one of these during like 2007 that destroyed tv shows

Yeah most shows were reduced in length due to it (they went off-air for about four months)

Didn't CBS just slap another edition of Big Brother USA on the last time this happened?

Yeah but this time it'll happen during summer when BB is on anyway so CBS won't do that this time

reece(:
24-04-2017, 09:42 PM
Hope for 2 Broke Girls and Scream Queens?

MB.
24-04-2017, 09:50 PM
Scream Queens has all but been cancelled, so that solves that particular problem

edit: never mind, that's what you meant isn't it

BBfanUSA
24-04-2017, 09:51 PM
Yeah most shows were reduced in length due to it (they went off-air for about four months)



Yeah but this time it'll happen during summer when BB is on anyway so CBS won't do that this time

Could do Celeb Big Brother if production is still stalled for a while

Big Brother Over The Top proved that they can repaint the house within a week of the show ending :Pipe:

Jamie89
25-04-2017, 12:07 PM
*Starts a Westworld prayer circle*

wasnt there one of these during like 2007 that destroyed tv shows

Mostly yeah but it ended up having a positive effect on '24' :spin: it took a year out because of the strike and came back much better as a result because of the extra time for planning and making changes etc (it had started getting criticism for becoming stale).

Firewire
25-04-2017, 12:28 PM
They overwhelmingly voted to strike and if they don't get what they want by Monday then production on scripted shows will have to close

Headie
25-04-2017, 02:00 PM
Perched for the wave of new reality shows

https://www.uploadir.com/u/po2chhb2

Shaun
25-04-2017, 02:03 PM
wasnt there one of these during like 2007 that destroyed tv shows

yeah it pretty much killed Heroes and Desperate Housewives.

Jamie89
25-04-2017, 02:17 PM
'Don't Be Silly, That's Not A Willy!' to finally be commissioned? http://i.imgur.com/cbpD3WE.png?1

MB.
25-04-2017, 02:18 PM
Ah, I'm afraid that would require a complex team of only the finest writers in order to decipher what is and what isn't a willy

Cal.
25-04-2017, 02:19 PM
Hmm reality TV is making a comeback!

Firewire
25-04-2017, 02:21 PM
Popular shows that could be among the first impacted according to EW:

The Walking Dead
American Horror Story
Star Trek Discovery
The Mindy Project
Inhumans
Jessica Jones
Zoo

Shaun
25-04-2017, 02:31 PM
not jessica jones </3 the rest can choke

Jason.
25-04-2017, 04:30 PM
*Starts a Westworld prayer circle*


http://www.germmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/the-craft-main-image1.jpg

Me, you, Lostie and Scott (when he finally watches it)?

Lostie!
25-04-2017, 04:36 PM
http://www.germmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/the-craft-main-image1.jpg

Me, you, Lostie and Scott (when he finally watches it)?

:joker::joker:

user104658
25-04-2017, 09:41 PM
wasnt there one of these during like 2007 that destroyed tv shows

UGH, yes, it pretty much killed Heroes (took it off in a direction that killed it) and also, even shows that did survive, that year had some of the worst written episodes I've ever witnessed (I reckon they were just drafting in amateurs to write eps), and big gaps between episodes. IIRC both Smallville and Supernatural were particularly bad the year of the writer's strike :umm2:. And there were others.

Lostie!
25-04-2017, 10:01 PM
UGH, yes, it pretty much killed Heroes (took it off in a direction that killed it) and also, even shows that did survive, that year had some of the worst written episodes I've ever witnessed (I reckon they were just drafting in amateurs to write eps), and big gaps between episodes. IIRC both Smallville and Supernatural were particularly bad the year of the writer's strike :umm2:. And there were others.

I really liked season 3 :worry:

Cal.
25-04-2017, 10:03 PM
Mess it's literally vital for TWD that season 8 is the best yet :worry:

Firewire
25-04-2017, 10:05 PM
Mess it's literally vital for TWD that season 8 is the best yet :worry:

Ikr and they start filming next week I think so it's come at the worst possible time for TWD

James
25-04-2017, 10:06 PM
It would affect film production too. I read that the previous strike meant the Bond producers couldn't get the script they wanted for Quantum of Solace, and the director and Daniel Craig had to write some of it.

Marsh.
25-04-2017, 10:14 PM
yeah it pretty much killed Heroes and Desperate Housewives.

But DH season 4 was perhaps its best after the first?

Marsh.
25-04-2017, 10:15 PM
Daniel Craig had to write some of it.

:omgno:

user104658
25-04-2017, 11:23 PM
I really liked season 3 :worry:
The problem (with most of the shows affected) wasn't so much the overall direction, which would already have been given a rough draft, but more with the "filler" week to week episodes that are used to make up a full 20+ episode seasons run. Those were the episodes that really suffered. Just thrown together by whoever wanted to have a go I reckon :joker:.

Its also the reason it more or less destroyed Heroes, because it didn't really do those episodes, it was all about one long narrative. A lot of shows are now, but not so many back then. But it ended up veering wildly off course and never found its feet again.

Calderyon
25-04-2017, 11:47 PM
Only care about the new Star Trek series out of that list.

Marsh.
25-04-2017, 11:48 PM
The problem (with most of the shows affected) wasn't so much the overall direction, which would already have been given a rough draft, but more with the "filler" week to week episodes that are used to make up a full 20+ episode seasons run. Those were the episodes that really suffered. Just thrown together by whoever wanted to have a go I reckon :joker:.


Didn't most shows just have a severely reduced episode count rather than just drafting in anyone who could cobble together a script?

user104658
26-04-2017, 06:39 AM
Didn't most shows just have a severely reduced episode count rather than just drafting in anyone who could cobble together a script?
Bit if both, depending on the network. I'm pretty sure the CW (might still have been WB back then?) shows still had mostly 20 episode runs at least when they're usually around 22/23. But yeah, Heroes went from 20+ episodes to 11 episodes and there was a huge quality drop too, it never recovered.

Ironically, I actually think it would have worked better as a more tightly plotted 13 episode show in the first place (they had obvious budget issues with the special effects), and if it was just starting today, it probably would be. But... New shows having lower episode counts per season seems to be half of what's caused this new strike :think:.

Firewire
02-05-2017, 09:58 AM
No strike!

The unions came to a last minute deal

Scarlett.
02-05-2017, 03:23 PM
Thank **** for that.