Eight to ten million migrants are still on the way

[Brillopad]

According to the Gatestone Institute International Policy Council 8-10 million migrants from Africa, Asia and the Middle East are still on the way to Europe, most of which are economic migrants looking for a better life.

The Director of the European Council, Michael Moller, has warned that Europe must prepare for this. As the EU has called on its member states to lift border controls, within the next six months, the return to open borders, which would allow for passport-free travel across the EU would also allow jihadists to cross European borders undetected to carry out attacks when and where they wish.

Interested to know how people feel about this. For me it is a very worrying situation. Apparently most of these migrants are economic migrants, not refugees, so I am not clear why we would be opening our borders to them.

[Marsh.]

The locusts are coming!

[Northern Monkey]

It's crazy and it's not going to stop unless Europe makes a firm stand.These people need to be deterred.
Thank feck we're getting out of the EU.When all these people end up with bergundy passports in the next few years you know exactly where they're headed.The benefits capital of Europe.Good old blighty.

[Brillopad]

It's crazy and it's not going to stop unless Europe makes a firm stand.These people need to be deterred.
Thank feck we're getting out of the EU.When all these people end up with bergundy passports in the next few years you know exactly where they're headed.The benefits capital of Europe.Good old blighty.

Completly agree NM.

[Denver]

People shouldn't come to countries unless they are coming for a definite job which I hope The UK sort

[Kazanne]

Let em all in,the NHS can cope and if they can't ,we will just blame whoever is in charge, at least we wont be branded racist, but we are stupid.(said with tongue firmly in cheek)

[user104658]

Eeeeeek! Winter Is Coming!

[Livia]

Plenty of room in Scotland, only a couple of million people there and loads of room!

[DemolitionRed]

According to Amnesty, its 86% of all refugees are being hosted by Middle Eastern, African and South Asian countries. Their figure for refugees with urgent need are 1.5 million. These include torture survivors and people with severe medical problems.

[jaxie]

I'm not opposed to migration at all, a member of my family is in love with someone from another country and hopes they will be able to live here eventually, but I do believe there ought to be some controls over a countries borders and I think the system should be equal. At the moment the balance is very unequal in favour of the EU.

[Withano]

The Gatestone Institute (formerly Stonegate Institute and Hudson New York) is a right-wing think tank whose website publishes articles with a mainly conservative perspective on policy issues, particularly those involving the Middle East.

Gatestone has been criticized for publishing inaccurate articles.

Is any other publisher expecting similar numbers? I don't trust the websites authenticity (and you shouldn't either)

[user104658]

Is any other publisher expecting similar numbers? I don't trust the websites authenticity (and you shouldn't either)

Daily Mail says it's 23 Billion :worry:

[Brillopad]

Is any other publisher expecting similar numbers? I don't trust the websites authenticity (and you shouldn't either)

I don't know - but judging by the numbers seen recently it may not be far off the mark. Could be more.

Besides if EU countries have to remove border controls, with no passports required, is anyone naive enough to think we won't get a lot more jihadists come in and pose an ever increasing risk to all of us with more terrorist attacks. I really cannot understand this incredibly naive mindset.

[Northern Monkey]

The removing of border controls is legit according to the FT.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/0f96d0f2-2f4c-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a

European countries must lift border controls introduced at the height of the EU’s refugee crisis within six months, the European Commission has warned.

The demand by Brussels means member states such as Germany, Austria, Denmark and Sweden must end systematic checks of people entering their territories, in an attempt to get the EU’s passport-free Schengen area functioning properly again.

Insanity imo.
Slackening security is not a shrewd move in the current situation.

[Jack_]

Oh God not the brown people! Please no! Close the borders!

[Northern Monkey]

Oh God not the brown people! Please no! Close the borders!
I wouldn't say the issue for most people is the colour of people's skin but the sheer numbers of people flocking in.Most people are'nt racist.

[Kazanne]

I wouldn't say the issue for most people is the colour of people's skin but the sheer numbers of people flocking in.Most people are'nt racist.

Exactly

[Denver]

Oh God not the brown people! Please no! Close the borders!

I forgot Eastern Europeans are famed for there brow skin

[MB.]

I forgot Eastern Europeans are famed for there brow skin

According to the Gatestone Institute International Policy Council 8-10 million migrants from Africa, Asia and the Middle East are still on the way to Europe, most of which are economic migrants looking for a better life.

I sometimes wonder whether or not people even read the threads they post in

[MB.]

Not to mention that this is about Europe as a whole, which has a population of over 740 million, not just the UK... there are other countries than us, y'know

[Brillopad]

Oh God not the brown people! Please no! Close the borders!

:shrug:

[DemolitionRed]

I forgot Eastern Europeans are famed for there brow skin

except we aren't talking about Eastern Europeans.:conf:

[Denver]

East Europeans are more likely to migrate to other European countries then Africa and Asia

[Loukas]

'Eight to ten million migrants are still on the way' :laugh:

EIGHT TO TEN MILLION :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Brillopad]

People from Africa, Asia and the Middle East who are non- Europeans, and don't have refugee status, therefore don't meet the criteria. We have no obligation to let them stay.

The EU can't dictate we let them in.

[Cherie]

I wouldn't say the issue for most people is the colour of people's skin but the sheer numbers of people flocking in.Most people are'nt racist.

Indeed, Any excuse to raise the racist card though, when will people accept that it's about quality of life and finite resources rather than colour

[Wizard.]

Let's build a wall don't let any of them in!
Sorry most of them have a safe country so work towards bettering that country don't just come here to ruin ours.

[Kizzy]

Let's build a wall don't let any of them in!
Sorry most of them have a safe country so work towards bettering that country don't just come here to ruin ours.

Rise the drawbridge!! man the turrets!!!! :joker::joker:

[Livia]

Indeed, Any excuse to raise the racist card though, when will people accept that it's about quality of life and finite resources rather than colour

Post of the thread. There is nothing more to say.

[user104658]

there are other countries than us, y'know

Lies and hearsay! :fist:

[user104658]

Indeed, Any excuse to raise the racist card though, when will people accept that it's about quality of life and finite resources rather than colour
Yes I imagine the influx of ten million immigrants to the UK is rather worrying... for the idiots who actually believe the hysterical nonsense that there is an influx of 10 million immigrants headed for the UK at this very moment. All sorts of imaginary things can be quite terrifying if you let your mind run wild.

[Cherie]

Yes I imagine the influx of ten million immigrants to the UK is rather worrying... for the idiots who actually believe the hysterical nonsense that there is an influx of 10 million immigrants headed for the UK at this very moment. All sorts of imaginary things can be quite terrifying if you let your mind run wild.

10,000 into an area is going to make a difference it's all right for you in your Scottish hamlet, you are not crushed nose to nose with someone on the train to get to work!

[Kazanne]

Indeed, Any excuse to raise the racist card though, when will people accept that it's about quality of life and finite resources rather than colour

Well said Cherie,no more needs be said,:wavey:

[Brillopad]

Yes I imagine the influx of ten million immigrants to the UK is rather worrying... for the idiots who actually believe the hysterical nonsense that there is an influx of 10 million immigrants headed for the UK at this very moment. All sorts of imaginary things can be quite terrifying if you let your mind run wild.

10 million to Europe, not the UK. Affects everyone.

[Brillopad]

10,000 into an area is going to make a difference it's all right for you in your Scottish hamlet, you are not crushed nose to nose with someone on the train to get to work!

:joker:

[joeysteele]

Yes I imagine the influx of ten million immigrants to the UK is rather worrying... for the idiots who actually believe the hysterical nonsense that there is an influx of 10 million immigrants headed for the UK at this very moment. All sorts of imaginary things can be quite terrifying if you let your mind run wild.

Exactly,really valid point.

As with Farage's deceitful poster during the referendum too.

It's really sad how rapidly the anger and suspicion of all negative as to refugees and migrants can get whipped up.

Worse that the overreaction gets support too.
Sad state for the UK,really sad.

[Cherie]

Exactly,really valid point.

As with Farage's deceitful poster during the referendum too.

It's really sad how rapidly the anger and suspicion of all negative as to refugees and migrants can get whipped up.

Worse that the overreaction gets support too.
Sad state for the UK,really sad.

What's sad about it? Economic migrants are putting themselves first, why can't we here in England put ourselves and our families and our future family first for a change, we are expected to open the door and say there you go and wipe your feet on us on the way in :joker: you are putting you and your family first are you not Joey with your impending move ?

[joeysteele]

What's sad about it? Economic migrants are putting themselves first, why can't we here in England put ourselves and our families and our future family first for a change, we are expected to open the door and say there you go and wipe your feet on us on the way in :joker: you are putting you and your family first are you not Joey with your impending move ?

Indeed I am but I don't jump on the near hate bandwagon at every opportunity against others around the World for trying to making moves for their futures too.

Also in part,what I am doing is for my Mum too who has actually been really ill since losing my Dad so just take care when you make things more directly personal related.

[Brillopad]

Indeed I am but I don't jump on the near hate bandwagon at every opportunity against others around the World for trying to making moves for their futures too.

Also in part,what I am doing is for my Mum too who has actually been really ill since losing my Dad so just take care when you make things more directly personal related.

She made a valid point. Everyone is looking after their own interests, including economic migrants, some just try to point that finger solely at those who believe that those already here count too and should have a say in something that hugely affects them and their families.

[Withano]

What's sad about it? Economic migrants are putting themselves first, why can't we here in England put ourselves and our families and our future family first for a change, we are expected to open the door and say there you go and wipe your feet on us on the way in :joker: you are putting you and your family first are you not Joey with your impending move ?

I think youd probably have to name at least one British family that doesnt put their family first before you can make a generalisation like that.

[joeysteele]

She made a valid point. Everyone is looking after their own interests, including economic migrants, some just try to point that finger solely at those who believe that those already here count too and should have a say in something that hugely affects them and their families.

Would you just please mind your own business,I never respond to your posts.

[Brillopad]

Would you just please mind your own business,I never respond to your posts.

That is up to you, but there is nothing to say I cannot respond to any of your posts. I did create the thread afterall.

Seems a bit childish but If you feel that strongly put me on ignore! :shrug:

[Cherie]

I think youd probably have to name at least one British family that doesnt put their family first before you can make a generalisation like that.

Everyone puts their families first of course the point is if English people put their family first they are called racists, economic migrants put theirs first they are applauded, when I see more hospital and schools, changes to the cattle truck that is public transport, improvements to our sewers, less pollution then by all means come come, not come come and stretch resources already at breaking point

[Withano]

Everyone puts their families first of course the point is if English people put their family first they are called racists, economic migrants put theirs first they are applauded, when I see more hospital and schools, changes to the cattle truck that is public transport, improvements to our sewers, less pollution then by all means come come, not come come and stretch resources already at breaking point

Nobody calls somebody a racist for putting their family first hahaha (Do you have a source that suggests otherwise, it would be an interesting read)

[Cherie]

Indeed I am but I don't jump on the near hate bandwagon at every opportunity against others around the World for trying to making moves for their futures too.

Also in part,what I am doing is for my Mum too who has actually been really ill since losing my Dad so just take care when you make things more directly personal related.

With all due respect to you Joey you have said you are moving more than once to back up an argument. I don't know anything more than that but now you have brought your Mum and Dad in to it to make me look bad, I am sorry for your loss and wish your Mum well, but don't use it to make a point if you dont want it mentioned.

[Cherie]

Oh God not the brown people! Please no! Close the borders!

Nobody calls somebody a racist for putting their family first hahaha (Do you have a source that suggests otherwise, it would be an interesting read)

.

[Withano]

.

Jacks post was an obvious joke, and was directed at the reaction that some had towards migrants, it wasnt anything to do with british people putting their family first
To clarify on behalf of Jack, because what you are suggesting is kind of cruel, he does not think you, I, or anybody else is a racist for putting family first. He also, presumably, puts his family first and doesnt consider himself to be a racist for doing so.
Its completely out of order that you would suggest that he said this by misinterpreting an obvious joke.

[Brillopad]

Nobody calls somebody a racist for putting their family first hahaha (Do you have a source that suggests otherwise, it would be an interesting read)

What a odd comment. Clearly many feel that mass immigration has a negative effect on their families but when they express concerns about immigration there are several who respond with 'suggestions' they are racist . No source needed we have all seen/ experienced it many times.

[joeysteele]

With all due respect to you Joey you have said you are moving more than once to back up an argument. I don't know anything more than that but now you have brought your Mum and Dad in to it to make me look bad, I am sorry for your loss and wish your Mum well, but don't use it to make a point if you dont want it mentioned.

Don't make direct personal comments to people,I don't get personal with people as to what they are doing in their lives,whether they share any personal information/experiences.

You jumped in to bring in, my for many reasons not just one personal move,simply because I disagreed with views on this thread and indeed what I find off it.

I had to correct your 100% wrong statement made by you as to my change of abode.
I merely pointed out one of the other main reasons for me doing so.
No need to get so nasty and personal at all Cherie just to bludgeon your own stance across.

[Cherie]

Don't make direct personal comments to people,I don't get personal with people as to what they are doing in their lives,whether they share any personal information/experiences.

You jumped in to bring in, my for many reasons not just one personal move,simply because I disagreed with views on this thread and indeed what I find off it.

I had to correct your 100% wrong statement made by you as to my change of abode.
I merely pointed out one of the other main reasons for me doing so.
No need to get so nasty and personal at all Cherie just to bludgeon your own stance across.

You don't get personal? when you come down from your saintly cloud maybe read your post again and admit yes you do get personal.

[Cherie]

What a odd comment. Clearly many feel that mass immigration has a negative effect on their families but when they express concerns about immigration there are several who respond with 'suggestions' they are racist . No source needed we have all seen/ experienced it many times.

Nail on head

[joeysteele]

You don't get personal? when you come down from your saintly cloud maybe read your post again and admit yes you do get personal.

Who to directly please.
First I was agreeing with TS and his post.

Whose name did I mention or directly respond to in a personal way.
Perhaps you should take your own advice as you brought up my moving here not me.

I never responded once to yours or anyone else's post only the one from TS,only because I agreed with his points.
Hard to be being personal then when not mentioning any name/s or directly responding negatively to anyone as to their individual post either.
Yeah,take your own advice Cherie.

[Withano]

What a odd comment. Clearly many feel that mass immigration has a negative effect on their families but when they express concerns about immigration there are several who respond with 'suggestions' they are racist . No source needed we have all seen/ experienced it many times.

You are not a racist for putting your family first, nobody has suggested otherwise, your post doesnt actually relate to the one you quoted very much

[Withano]

Has anybody on tibb even called anybody a racist, like, recently? I feel like people must be using their personal experiences as a reason to abuse tibb members

[Cherie]

Who to directly please.
First I was agreeing with TS and his post.

Whose name did I mention or directly respond to in a personal way.
Perhaps you should take your own advice as you brought up my moving here not me.

I never responded once to yours or anyone else's post only the one from TS,only because I agreed with his points.
Hard to be being personal then when not mentioning any name/s or directly responding negatively to anyone as to their individual post either.
Yeah,take your own advice Cherie.

Where are you getting this idea that your posts can only be responded to by the person you are addressing? TS quoted me and you quoted him so you were indirectly responding to me and I am perfectly entitled to respond to you even if it doesn't suit you

[Brillopad]

You are not a racist for putting your family first, nobody has suggested otherwise, your post doesnt actually relate to the one you quoted very much

Sorry but that isn't correct. I have been blatantly called a racist and have had it implied for expressing concerns regarding mass immigration, as have many others. From memory I believe you were one of those.

It's pretty obvious that by far the majority of people who have these concerns do so out of concern for their own and their families futures in this country. But in most 'discussions' on this subject most of these type of allegations, in one form or another, get chucked about by those who feel differently - as you well know!

[joeysteele]

Where are you getting this idea that your posts can only be responded to by the person you are addressing? TS quoted me and you quoted him so you were indirectly responding to me and I am perfectly entitled to respond to you even if it doesn't suit you

Fine,I will be extra careful to now avoid your nastiness and avoid your posts directly or indirectly in future.

[Withano]

Sorry but that isn't correct. I have been blatantly called a racist and have had it implied for expressing concerns regarding mass immigration, as have many others. From memory I believe you were one of those.

It's pretty obvious that by far the majority of people who have these concerns do so out of concern for their own and their families futures in this country. But in most 'discussions' on this subject most of these type of allegations, in one form or another, get chucked about by those who feel differently - as you well know!

I wouldnt call anybody a racist/sexist/homophobe without knowing them (unlike you :hee:). I think I have seen individual posts that might fit the criteria, but a single post doesnt define a person - so no, it wouldnt have been me.

I haven't seen somebody make a racist allegation in ages, and I did just search the forum to try and find one. I think you might be confusing where you saw this allegation. Perhaps it was somebody in your personal life or something.

Again, the point i made was 'nobody thinks you're a racist for putting your family first' - you keep trying to change the subject, and involve me in other discussions, i simply cant discuss absolutely everything with you, regardless of how much you would like me to.

Discuss the points I make if you quote them, I'm not interested in your side-arguments every single time you want to make one.

[Jack_]

Jacks post was an obvious joke, and was directed at the reaction that some had towards migrants, it wasnt anything to do with british people putting their family first
To clarify on behalf of Jack, because what you are suggesting is kind of cruel, he does not think you, I, or anybody else is a racist for putting family first. He also, presumably, puts his family first and doesnt consider himself to be a racist for doing so.
Its completely out of order that you would suggest that he said this by misinterpreting an obvious joke.

Thank you. I was quite obviously being facetious since the alleged 'influx' were all coming from Africa, Asia and the Middle East. I should've realised that kind of thing doesn't cut through on here though

[Cherie]

Fine,I will be extra careful to now avoid your nastiness and avoid your posts directly or indirectly in future.

More name calling ? I won't be avoiding yours I will pick them up and respond either agreeing or disagreeing as I see fit

[Brillopad]

I wouldnt call anybody a racist/sexist/homophobe without knowing them (unlike you :hee:). I think I have seen individual posts that might fit the criteria, but a single post doesnt define a person - so no, it wouldnt have been me.

I haven't seen somebody make a racist allegation in ages, and I did just search the forum to try and find one. I think you might be confusing where you saw this allegation. Perhaps it was somebody in your personal life or something.

Again, the point i made was 'nobody thinks you're a racist for putting your family first' - you keep trying to change the subject, and involve me in other discussions, i simply cant discuss absolutely everything with you, regardless of how much you would like me to.

Discuss the points I make if you quote them, I'm not interested in your side-arguments every single time you want to make one.

Nope no one in my personal life - weak!

As I said most people have such concerns out of concern for their family's future, as do I, so therefore such comments are directed at me due to such concerns.

Why is it necessary to state the obvious all the time with you.

Such allegations may not have been made recently but they have been in the past, and I would hardly call it ages. I didn't specify a timeframe - you did that. As for the rest - irrelevant.

[Withano]

Nope no one in my personal life - weak!

As I said most people have such concerns out of concern for their family's future, as do I, so therefore such comments are directed at me due to such concerns.

Why is it necessary to state the obvious all the time with you.

Such allegations may not have been made recently but they have been in the past, and I would hardly call it ages. I didn't specify a timeframe - you did that. As for the rest - irrelevant.

So you're like, pemanently going to be upset on tibb because somebody might have called your post racist like a year ago? Seems very childish. I would love to suggest moving on, but I feel like you dont want to. Childish. Especially considering the amount of times youve thrown the sexist card around. Childish and hypocritical.

[Brillopad]

So you're like, pemanently going to be upset on tibb because somebody might have called your post racist like a year ago? Seems very childish. I would love to suggest moving on, but I feel like you dont want to. Childish. Especially considering the amount of times youve thrown the sexist card around. Childish and hypocritical.

Who said I was upset. Accusations of racism have been made many times on this forum and I was just pointing that out. It has nothing to do with being upset - it's about smear tactics. Why do you always accuse women of being upset? Is that a bit of stereotyping going on there?

[joeysteele]

More name calling ? I won't be avoiding yours I will pick them up and respond either agreeing or disagreeing as I see fit

Suit yourself. I from now won't be able to see your responses thankfully.
So good luck with that one.

[Withano]

Who said I was upset. Accusations of racism have been made many times on this forum and I was just pointing that out. It has nothing to do with being upset - it's about smear tactics. Why do you always accuse women of being upset? Is that a bit of stereotyping going on there?

You are ridiculous

[Brillopad]

You are ridiculous

Yes you are.

[Cherie]

Suit yourself. I from now won't be able to see your responses thankfully.
So good luck with that one.

Sadly you won't know what you are missing

[Cherie]

So you're like, pemanently going to be upset on tibb because somebody might have called your post racist like a year ago? Seems very childish. I would love to suggest moving on, but I feel like you dont want to. Childish. Especially considering the amount of times youve thrown the sexist card around. Childish and hypocritical.

Name calling seems to be the defence of the day on here, when all else fails dig out a playground insult!

[Withano]

Name calling seems to be the defence of the day on here, when all else fails dig out a playground insult!

I was describing their behaviour, not their persona.
A person can have childish and hypocritical behavioural traits without being a childish or hypocritical person.
Although you must have jumped to this conclusion for some reason, I'll give their posts another read through.

[Brillopad]

I was describing their behaviour, not their persona.
A person can have childish and hypocritical behavioural traits without being a childish or hypocritical person.
Although you must have jumped to this conclusion for some reason, I'll give their posts another read through.

As said before I think her comments have more to do with you than me.

You keep on trying, and trying...

[jaxie]

Indeed, Any excuse to raise the racist card though, when will people accept that it's about quality of life and finite resources rather than colour

Wise words.

[jaxie]

Oh God not the brown people! Please no! Close the borders!

What are you implying here and who is it aimed at? If you are going to imply racism, out with it, don't hold back.

[jaxie]

Fine,I will be extra careful to now avoid your nastiness and avoid your posts directly or indirectly in future.

I think you need a read back, Joey, after a bit of a chill. Cherie is one of the least nasty and most level headed posters in debates.

[jaxie]

Thank you. I was quite obviously being facetious since the alleged 'influx' were all coming from Africa, Asia and the Middle East. I should've realised that kind of thing doesn't cut through on here though

Well it's not funny. :shrug:

[Brillopad]

What are you implying here and who is it aimed at? If you are going to imply racism, out with it, don't hold back.

With everything I forgot that one - seems such insinuations are a lot more recent than either myself or Withano took on board. So much for him not having seen such comments/implications for 'ages'.

[joeysteele]

I think you need a read back, Joey, after a bit of a chill. Cherie is one of the least nasty and most level headed posters in debates.

Really,and so am I.

I have also closed it down so no.need for you to open all up again.

[jaxie]

With everything I forgot that one - seems such insinuations are a lot more recent than either myself or Withano took on board. So much for him not having seen such comments/implications for 'ages'.

Those kinds of comments are dropped on this forum all the time and then passed off as jokes. It's really not good enough. At least the rest of us manage to rise above it.

[Brillopad]

Those kinds of comments are dropped on this forum all the time and then passed off as jokes. It's really not good enough. At least the rest of us manage to rise above it.

Indeed - a person's true words are often masked with 'humour'. Cop out.

[Cherie]

I think you need a read back, Joey, after a bit of a chill. Cherie is one of the least nasty and most level headed posters in debates.

:love: thanks Jaxie much appreciated x

[Cherie]

Well it's not funny. :shrug:

:joker:

[Jack_]

I should've realised that kind of thing doesn't cut through on here though

Case in point:

What are you implying here and who is it aimed at? If you are going to imply racism, out with it, don't hold back.

Well it's not funny. :shrug:

To you maybe, but I've had this response from you before and as I pointed out then, humour is subjective. I don't and am not about to vet every post of mine by pondering 'will jaxie find this funny?'

If you or others don't detect the satire in such a remark, that's not my problem.

[Withano]

With everything I forgot that one - seems such insinuations are a lot more recent than either myself or Withano took on board. So much for him not having seen such comments/implications for 'ages'.

Obviously I didnt include obvious jokes into that, or else this from yesterday would have counted too

Racist :hehe:

Think your issue is not being able to differentiate between jokes, insults, and genuine causes of concern.

[Jack_]

Not Cherie actually calling someone a racist and getting away with it. Appalling

[Cherie]

Not Cherie actually calling someone a racist and getting away with it. Appalling

:joker:

[Northern Monkey]

Fine,I will be extra careful to now avoid your nastiness and avoid your posts directly or indirectly in future.

That's not really fair.I have never once seen Cherie be nasty to anyone on here.She is one of the most calm and measured posters in here.

[Kizzy]

So is Joey, what's your point....is this going to be another 'he said she said'thread? :bored:

[joeysteele]

So is Joey, what's your point....is this going to be another 'he said she said'thread? :bored:

Thanks but don't get involved Kizzy,you have enough to contend with at times.
I closed the issue down,others I think would be better advised discussing the thread topic rather than opening things up again and carrying it on.

Just don't please invite bother for yourself on my behalf.

[Cherie]

That's not really fair.I have never once seen Cherie be nasty to anyone on here.She is one of the most calm and measured posters in here.

Thank you sometimes I feel i am in a parallel universe :joker:

[Northern Monkey]

So is Joey, what's your point....is this going to be another 'he said she said'thread? :bored:

I know and if someone accused him of nastiness when he wasn't then i'd say the same.
My point is that it's not really a measured response to her post.An unfair accusation imo.

[Cherie]

So is Joey, what's your point....is this going to be another 'he said she said'thread? :bored:

No one asked anyone to get involved it's just nice to see that what's been levied against me isn't universal across the board :hmph:

[Northern Monkey]

Thank you sometimes I feel i am in a parallel universe :joker:

You are:laugh:

TIBB gets it's own universe and it's far far left of the one we know.

[Kizzy]

You are:laugh:

TIBB gets it's own universe and it's far far left of the one we know.

Good I'm staying in my lefty heaven you can keep your third rock from uranus toryverse thanks :thumbs:

[jaxie]

Case in point:





To you maybe, but I've had this response from you before and as I pointed out then, humour is subjective. I don't and am not about to vet every post of mine by pondering 'will jaxie find this funny?'

If you or others don't detect the satire in such a remark, that's not my problem.

I'm very happy my idea of humour takes me in different directions.

[the truth]

Is any other publisher expecting similar numbers? I don't trust the websites authenticity (and you shouldn't either)

yes everyone who suggests immigration is rising too fast still gets called a liar and a racist by the left lol what a joke

[Jack_]

I'm very happy my idea of humour takes me in different directions.

You wouldn't be virtue signalling would you? Tut tut

[jaxie]

You wouldn't be virtue signalling would you? Tut tut

Not labelling or stereotyping either.

[Kazanne]

So you're like, pemanently going to be upset on tibb because somebody might have called your post racist like a year ago? Seems very childish. I would love to suggest moving on, but I feel like you dont want to. Childish. Especially considering the amount of times youve thrown the sexist card around. Childish and hypocritical.

You're really getting on my tits,go and have a cuppa and chill,people are allowed different opinions to you.(the buttons bottom left)

[Withano]

You're really getting on my tits,go and have a cuppa and chill,people are allowed different opinions to you.(the buttons bottom left)

Ironic, considering you're trying to silence my opinion.

[Kazanne]

Ironic, considering you're trying to silence my opinion.

I'm not trying to silence your opinion,I think we have it loud and clear:laugh: you just seem a bit obsessive with brillo and her opinions,we all have them,no one is upset,so lets crack on:hehe:

[Withano]

I'm not trying to silence your opinion,I think we have it in spades:laugh: you just seem a bit obsessive with brillo and her opinions,we all have them,no one is upset,so lets crack on:hehe:

Well, you made me smile with that first sentence

But actually in this thread, and in most others, (if you care to look through), Brillo enagages in a conversation with me by quoting my post, and I am gracious enough to reply.
I was completely prepared to ignore her opinions until she started quoting me in them, I usually reply to quotes unless I have nothing to add to them. Sorry about that?

[Kazanne]

Well, you made me smile with that first sentence

But actually in this thread, and in most others, (if you care to look through), Brillo enagages in a conversation with me by quoting my post, and I am gracious enough to reply.
I was completely prepared to ignore her opinions until she started quoting me in them, I usually reply to quotes unless I have nothing to add to them. Sorry about that?

You don't need to ignore people though do you? that's what the forum is for, it just seemed you were a tad insulting and having a go,maybe I read it wrong,I felt a bit sorry for her,but no hard feelings here:wavey:

[Brillopad]

I'm not trying to silence your opinion,I think we have it loud and clear:laugh: you just seem a bit obsessive with brillo

Glad someone noticed it. Must be my charm and wit! :hee:

Wait for his response to that - I might just end up in tears! :joker:

[Kazanne]

Glad someone noticed it. Must be my charm and wit! :hee:

Wait for his response to that - I might just end up in tears! :joker:

:joker::joker: Well t least you made an impression Brillo.:wavey:

[Withano]

Glad someone noticed it. Must be my charm and wit! :hee:

Wait for his response to that - I might just end up in tears! :joker:

Oop, you mentioning me again! You can't resist! I'm liking the new subtle element, makes it a challenge!

[JTM45]

I thought i'd taken a wrong turn for a second and accidentally fallen into the English Defence League forum with such a sensational and divisive thread title!

Any website that would report this kind of thing obviously has an ulterior motive. They love these kind of fuel the fire 'facts' (and i use that word very loosely). Impossible to check on and by the time it hasn't actually happened it doesn't matter to them that it wasn't true because it had the desired effect and the required damage has been done.

Similar effect to throwing a banger into a barn full of blindfolded cows.:laugh:

[Brillopad]

I thought i'd taken a wrong turn for a second and accidentally fallen into the English Defence League forum with such a sensational and divisive thread title!

Any website that would report this kind of thing obviously has an ulterior motive. They love these kind of fuel the fire 'facts' (and i use that word very loosely). Impossible to check on and by the time it hasn't actually happened it doesn't matter to them that it wasn't true because it had the desired effect and the required damage has been done.

Similar effect to throwing a banger into a barn full of blindfolded cows.:laugh:

Nothing to do with the EDL, just the situation in Europe today. All the predictable name-calling won't change that. Just makes people take such comments with a pinch of salt. Playground nonsense.

[Beso]

Has anybody on tibb even called anybody a racist, like, recently? I feel like people must be using their personal experiences as a reason to abuse tibb members


I have been called racist 3-4 times in my time on tibb...

[Withano]

I have been called racist 3-4 times in my time on tibb...

I'd really struggle to call somebody a racist based on posts they make on a forum, theres no way to prove that
I have however seen racist individual posts (not from you) and I think its important to call out racist posts when a person sees them.. but thats all they should do - call out a post, and not a person
But then again, I have seen less racist posts and less 'you're racist' allegations recently, it used to be semi-regular but maybe tibbs moved past that phase and both sides have reached a natural line

[Livia]

I'd really struggle to call somebody a racist based on posts they make on a forum, theres no way to prove that
I have however seen racist individual posts (not from you) and I think its important to call out racist posts when a person sees them.. but thats all they should do - call out a post, and not a person
But then again, I have seen less racist posts and less 'you're racist' allegations recently, it used to be semi-regular but maybe tibbs moved past that phase and both sides have reached a natural line

Me too. Things seem to have calmed on here slightly, or is that just my perception?

[Niamh.]

Me too. Things seem to have calmed on here slightly, or is that just my perception?

:fc: