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Niamh.
08-05-2017, 09:16 AM
This idiot is worse than Katie Hopkins, all for attention no doubt

Piers Morgan causes OUTRAGE on Twitter after making disrespectful comments on mental health issues


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Piers Morgan sparked controversy once again this week when he decided to take to Twitter to air his views on mens mental health.


In his tweet, Piers suggested that males should ‘man up’ and quit talking openly about their mental health issues. His views arose after Prince Harry and William recently opened up about their mental health struggles following the death of their mother in 1997.
The 52 year-old journalist and presenter tweeted:

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X Factor contestant Che Chesterman who came third in the 2015 series was just one of the tweeters who made a stand against Piers’ controversial remarks:

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Piers later followed up his views stating: “Tackling mental illness is important. Also important not to make very young person feel like they have a mental illness.”

Yet, he also commented that young people now seem to be “‘jumping on the ‘Look at me, i’m a victim bandwagon'”.

Do you agree with Piers or Che on this one? Let us know your thoughts!

http://itsgoneviral.com/piers-morgan-causes-outrage-social-media-making-disrespectful-comments-mental-health-issues/

Kazanne
08-05-2017, 09:23 AM
This idiot is worse than Katie Hopkins, all for attention no doubt

Piers Morgan causes OUTRAGE on Twitter after making disrespectful comments on mental health issues


http://itsgoneviral.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Piers-Morgan-Twitter-controversial-mental-health-801166.jpg

Piers Morgan sparked controversy once again this week when he decided to take to Twitter to air his views on mens mental health.


In his tweet, Piers suggested that males should ‘man up’ and quit talking openly about their mental health issues. His views arose after Prince Harry and William recently opened up about their mental health struggles following the death of their mother in 1997.
The 52 year-old journalist and presenter tweeted:

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/79/590x/secondary/Piers-Morgan-Twitter-controversial-mental-health-925501.jpg

X Factor contestant Che Chesterman who came third in the 2015 series was just one of the tweeters who made a stand against Piers’ controversial remarks:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/swear1.jpg?strip=all&w=556&quality=100

Piers later followed up his views stating: “Tackling mental illness is important. Also important not to make very young person feel like they have a mental illness.”

Yet, he also commented that young people now seem to be “‘jumping on the ‘Look at me, i’m a victim bandwagon'”.

Do you agree with Piers or Che on this one? Let us know your thoughts!

http://itsgoneviral.com/piers-morgan-causes-outrage-social-media-making-disrespectful-comments-mental-health-issues/

Well Che's reply was good up until he started swearing :laugh: made him look a bit of a tosser.

Livia
08-05-2017, 09:23 AM
Piers Morgan is a pr1ck. I have no idea why we have still to put up with this idiot on our telly.

user104658
08-05-2017, 09:25 AM
This idiot is worse than Katie Hopkins, all for attention no doubt

Nail on the head there, in my opinion. His "star" was rising at one point and then he was unceremoniously booted out of US popular culture and back onto low viewership British council-telly. He is straight up emulating Hopkins, I would imagine quite consciously, because he can see that it's been getting her attention (and, funnily enough, getting her onto US TV...) lately.

Black Dagger
08-05-2017, 09:26 AM
And we wonder why we have such a stigma when you get gob****es like using their media power to be so woeful.

Niamh.
08-05-2017, 09:32 AM
Nail on the head there, in my opinion. His "star" was rising at one point and then he was unceremoniously booted out of US popular culture and back onto low viewership British council-telly. He is straight up emulating Hopkins, I would imagine quite consciously, because he can see that it's been getting her attention (and, funnily enough, getting her onto US TV...) lately.

Sad state of affairs when people don't even mind if everyone thinks they're an asshole as long as it makes them famous :/

user104658
08-05-2017, 10:13 AM
Sad state of affairs when people don't even mind if everyone thinks they're an asshole as long as it makes them famous :/

I don't think in these cases it's even about "Fame"... not in the Hollywood / Pop sense. People like Hopkins and Morgan wouldn't be happy with, say, being a triple-platinum music star or an A-list actor even if that meant being the most well-known they could be. What they want is to "feel important"... so getting a huge vocal reaction is vital. Doesn't matter to them if it's applause and back-patting or outrage and attacks. They get both, and they thrive on both.

Withano
08-05-2017, 10:14 AM
How does he still have a job. This is disgusting.

MB.
08-05-2017, 10:36 AM
Well Che's reply was good up until he started swearing :laugh: made him look a bit of a tosser.

Don't be so ridiculous

Kizzy
08-05-2017, 10:38 AM
Boys are socialised to be brave, not to cry and such... but why? Why are these traits feminised what the heck does 'man up' mean?

If you are hurting internalising it is never going to make it go away, whether you are a man or a woman.

Che is bang on with his analysis, maybe not the violence bit but if he has suffered himself then having a fool like morgan suggest you are somehow less of a man for it... well, I can see how that would be mightily frustrating.

As said why are these motormouths given a platform? He's of the same ilk as hopkins, I somehow feel they have been placed in positions to in effect desensitise us all :/

Niamh.
08-05-2017, 10:40 AM
Boys are socialised to be brave, not to cry and such... but why? Why are these traits feminised what the heck does 'man up' mean?

If you are hurting internalising it is never going to make it go away, whether you are a man or a woman.

Che is bang on with his analysis, maybe not the violence bit but if he has suffered himself then having a fool like morgan suggest you are somehow less of a man for it... well, I can see how that would be mightily frustrating.

As said why are these motormouths given a platform? He's of the same ilk as hopkins, I somehow feel they have been placed in positions to in effect desensitise us all :/

That's certainly food for thought Kizzy. The world feels very cold sometimes

VanessaFeltz.
08-05-2017, 10:46 AM
oh **** off

i am so sick of the people acting like mental illness is a joke, people have ****ty lives because of stupid ignorant people like this man.

joeysteele
08-05-2017, 10:49 AM
Piers Morgan is a pr1ck. I have no idea why we have still to put up with this idiot on our telly.

Absolutely right.
I cannot stand the man at all.

He just shows more and more ignorance, why these people get lucrative jobs and media outlets is beyond me.

Niamh.
08-05-2017, 10:58 AM
Also, he's not convinced with this trend of public soul bearing yet hosts/did host a show where he encourages men and women to do just that

user104658
08-05-2017, 11:03 AM
It does in part make me wonder though, if maybe Mr Morgan himself has suffered himself at some point and DID "keep it to himself" / suffered through it alone and feels that he came through the other side... probably a bit emotionally shut off.

I dunno.

It sounds a lot like there's an unsaid part of that sentence; "Why can't men these days just man up and get on with it because that's what I had to do and look at me I'm OK now." It sounds like a comment made by someone who thinks they speak from experience / have been there. He's wrong, of course, because no two people's mental health struggle is the same (which is why it's always so complex to treat) and also, like I said, if I'm right then it strikes me that he's someone who IS emotionally affected / shut off... and that's not really a full recovery.

Putting up walls is a survival technique, but it's not a real or permanent solution. They end up coming down towards th end of life and that's why we have such a crisis with people aged 70+ suffering with extreme anxiety and depression. People who have been "manning up" their entire life end up crumbling at the end of it all.

Tom4784
08-05-2017, 11:19 AM
Piers Morgan in 'Piers Morgan being a ****' shocker.

Kazanne
08-05-2017, 11:46 AM
Don't be so ridiculous

How is that ridiculous ? he got his point across well,he didn't need to drop into a thuggish rant,imo.I didn't say his tweet was wrong.:shrug:

Denver
08-05-2017, 11:47 AM
Both ***** who need to disappear

Kazanne
08-05-2017, 12:00 PM
Both ***** who need to disappear

I cant even remember Che,but he was right about Piers except for the last bit.:fist:

Jordan.
08-05-2017, 12:28 PM
Wow who knew it was as easy as "manning up" to end all mental health issues.

smudgie
08-05-2017, 12:28 PM
Piers Morgan is a prize twunt, never to be taken seriously, hopefully the powers that be will realise his views on the world are unimportant and retire the twit.:fist:

the truth
08-05-2017, 02:19 PM
hes an idiot at times but a necessary idiot...in a sea of liberals its vital another voice is heard and awkward questions are asked. We do live in a victim culture now and whilst the majority of people are legitimate there are some jumping on the bandwagon. if the liberals had their way they would make it illegal to ask awkward questions and destroy freedom of speech

Niamh.
08-05-2017, 02:23 PM
hes an idiot at times but a necessary idiot...in a sea of liberals its vital another voice is heard and awkward questions are asked. We do live in a victim culture now and whilst the majority of people are legitimate there are some jumping on the bandwagon. if the liberals had their way they would make it illegal to ask awkward questions and destroy freedom of speech

With all due respect Truth, if it were someone like Germain greer who had said what he did, you would be livid and quoting the stats of male suicide etc. Infact if it had been anyone without a penis who said it you would be livid.

user104658
08-05-2017, 02:24 PM
hes an idiot at times but a necessary idiot...in a sea of liberals its vital another voice is heard and awkward questions are asked. We do live in a victim culture now and whilst the majority of people are legitimate there are some jumping on the bandwagon. if the liberals had their way they would make it illegal to ask awkward questions and destroy freedom of speech

Errrrrrr, Truth you are constantly talking about the high suicide rate in men. The fact that men are supposed to "man up" and not share their problems is the #1 contributing factor in male suicide... if a woman had said what Morgan said here, I am positive that you would have lost your ****ing head about it. At least try for a little consistency.

Denver
08-05-2017, 02:24 PM
Male mental illness is the biggest sigma about and because of this stigma male suicides are at a high

the truth
08-05-2017, 02:37 PM
With all due respect Truth, if it were someone like Germain greer who had said what he did, you would be livid and quoting the stats of male suicide etc. Infact if it had been anyone without a penis who said it you would be livid.

That is incorrect she accused all fathers of being perverted and sexually grooming their daughters, totally different subject and NO ONE dared even criticize her filth in the mainstream media...whereas morgan is fair game. He is really ruining his chances of offering legitimate lines of awkward questions that many spineless journalists wont ask. But hes going OTT deliberately. That way if the **** hits the fan he can just claim he was playing devils advocate. It is a legitimate line, though the phrase man up should be eradicated from human history its profoundly sexist

the truth
08-05-2017, 02:38 PM
Errrrrrr, Truth you are constantly talking about the high suicide rate in men. The fact that men are supposed to "man up" and not share their problems is the #1 contributing factor in male suicide... if a woman had said what Morgan said here, I am positive that you would have lost your ****ing head about it. At least try for a little consistency.

man up is a disgusting turn of phrase and he is 100% wrong to use it. I have given an explanation in my previous post

LukeB
08-05-2017, 02:40 PM
This man is vile, so ignorant.

Niamh.
08-05-2017, 02:41 PM
That is incorrect she accused all fathers of being perverted and sexually grooming their daughters, totally different subject and NO ONE dared even criticize her filth in the mainstream media...whereas morgan is fair game. He is really ruining his chances of offering legitimate lines of awkward questions that many spineless journalists wont ask. But hes going OTT deliberately. That way if the **** hits the fan he can just claim he was playing devils advocate. It is a legitimate line, though the phrase man up should be eradicated from human history its profoundly sexist

I'm not talking about what she has said before, I'm saying, I firmly believe if she had made the exact same comments as Piers did here, you would be livid, the only reason you're not livid now is because Piers is a man and she's a woman.

Regarding the phrase "Man up" almost everytime I've heard that phrase , it's come from a man

the truth
08-05-2017, 02:49 PM
I'm not talking about what she has said before, I'm saying, I firmly believe if she had made the exact same comments as Piers did here, you would be livid, the only reason you're not livid now is because Piers is a man and she's a woman.

Regarding the phrase "Man up" almost everytime I've heard that phrase , it's come from a man

nonsense. Ive always replied to this and Ive already stated man up is a disgusting phrase and to claim its only men using it is crazy. Though I agree its a problem that men need to give each other a break and stop using this obscene expression. I notice you continue to give germaine greers perverted comments a free pass

Niamh.
08-05-2017, 02:54 PM
nonsense. Ive always replied to this and Ive already stated man up is a disgusting phrase and to claim its only men using it is crazy. Though I agree its a problem that men need to give each other a break and stop using this obscene expression. I notice you continue to give germaine greers perverted comments a free pass

I don't give her comments from the other thread a free pass, if you read that thread you will see that I thought those comments were disgusting and said as much in that thread but we are not talking about those comments in this thread. My point was if she or any woman had made these comments you would be livid but you're not because Piers is a man.

Also, i didn't say only men use it, i said in my experience I've heard men use it more than women but you seem to blame feminazis for it instead of admitting men are big contributors to the problem

Marsh.
08-05-2017, 02:55 PM
back onto low viewership British council-telly.

:unsure:

LukeB
08-05-2017, 02:56 PM
Didn't he blast Emma Watson today because of gender awards?

Marsh.
08-05-2017, 03:05 PM
The truth in inconsistent hypocritical male biased stance.
I'm in shock.... not.

Withano
08-05-2017, 03:21 PM
Even on TiBB, I wasn't expecting anybody to defend Morgan here. Its this kind of attitude that is largely contributing to poor mental health in males.

user104658
08-05-2017, 03:35 PM
:unsure:

Ahh come on, Good Morning Britain is like The Sun in TV form. Yuck.

Northern Monkey
08-05-2017, 03:46 PM
He flopped in the US for being a twat.The yanks can't stand him.Now he's trying the same failed tactic over here.
He's a wanksplash.

Scarlett.
08-05-2017, 03:58 PM
He's a contrarian phone hacking piece of human trash. Oh, and he's a **** journalist and presenter too. Who the hell wants to wake up in the morning an see his smug face? Hell, I'd rather sit through two hours of an Adrian Chiles solo show than watch one minute of Piers.

Marsh.
08-05-2017, 03:59 PM
Ahh come on, Good Morning Britain is like The Sun in TV form. Yuck.
I was referring to the council comment. :nono:

JTM45
08-05-2017, 04:22 PM
Piers Morgan has no legitimate purpose for opening his mouth because every time he does he talks absolute ****e!!!
The guy's the worst of the worst. Him and Katie Hopkins should get on the next plane to the US and seek asylum in Trump Towers because they'd no doubt feel more at home in that kind of environment with the other repugnant poor excuses for human beings.

James
08-05-2017, 07:19 PM
Twitter is an awful medium for discussing serious issues, in my opinion. Nothing ever needs to be explained or reasoned. Partly because of the character limit, partly because of the 'echo-chamber' effect and partly because of the anonymity and trolling.

Jamie89
08-05-2017, 07:39 PM
Twitter is an awful medium for discussing serious issues, in my opinion. Nothing ever needs to be explained or reasoned. Partly because of the character limit, partly because of the 'echo-chamber' effect and partly because of the anonymity and trolling.

I agree, and I don't even think he will have tweeted what he did because he particularly wanted to have a serious discussion or offer an opinion on it, there's other mediums someone in his position has access to for that, it comes over purely as attention grabbing (a la Katie Hopkins), and that's the worst thing about this imo, not just that he has such a gross opinion on something, but that he's using something like mental illness as a way of attracting attention to himself. It's contrived, selfish, and potentially really damaging to other people, he should be ashamed, but I'm sure he's revelling in the retweets and replies :rolleyes: I'll never understand his appeal.

the truth
08-05-2017, 09:03 PM
funny how the liberals here only get angry when a man comes out with this trash, if loose women come out with this kind of trash we barely get a whisper on here...that idiot janet street porter said the other day she got engaged to a man she wasnt interested in once, to put him in a holding pattern until something better came along....oh how they all laughed and the audience cheered

absolutely disgusting

VanessaFeltz.
08-05-2017, 09:08 PM
funny how the liberals here only get angry when a man comes out with this trash, if loose women come out with this kind of trash we barely get a whisper on here...that idiot janet street porter said the other day she got engaged to a man she wasnt interested in once, to put him in a holding pattern until something better came along....oh how they all laughed and the audience cheered

absolutely disgusting
why are you bringing here something that is not related to this topic? Why you have to say "if a woman said this you wouldnt say something"

We are defending all men here so i dont understand you say stuff like that.

Jamie89
08-05-2017, 09:14 PM
funny how the liberals here only get angry when a man comes out with this trash, if loose women come out with this kind of trash we barely get a whisper on here...that idiot janet street porter said the other day she got engaged to a man she wasnt interested in once, to put him in a holding pattern until something better came along....oh how they all laughed and the audience cheered

absolutely disgusting

People who are angry at him have clearly taken issue with what he's said, rather than being angry at him just because he's a man, I'm not sure where you've got that from at all (or what any of this has to do with Loose Women :conf: )

Jamie89
08-05-2017, 09:14 PM
But yes I'm sure this is all Janet Street Porters fault somehow

JTM45
08-05-2017, 09:29 PM
But yes I'm sure this is all Janet Street Porters fault somehow

Of course.........well her and the 'liberals' anyway. :bored:

I'm pretty sure people here would have thought and said exactly the same thing about this 'opinion' regardless of the gender of the twat who said it.

Jake.
08-05-2017, 09:31 PM
Why would anyone want to pay attention to a human parsnip anyway

the truth
08-05-2017, 09:46 PM
Of course.........well her and the 'liberals' anyway. :bored:

I'm pretty sure people here would have thought and said exactly the same thing about this 'opinion' regardless of the gender of the twat who said it.

no they wouldnt

Marsh.
08-05-2017, 10:02 PM
Why would anyone want to pay attention to a human parsnip anyway

I'm not sure what Dezzy has to do with this?

Jack_
08-05-2017, 10:10 PM
hes an idiot at times but a necessary idiot...in a sea of liberals its vital another voice is heard and awkward questions are asked. We do live in a victim culture now and whilst the majority of people are legitimate there are some jumping on the bandwagon. if the liberals had their way they would make it illegal to ask awkward questions and destroy freedom of speech

If this doesn't prove that your issue is with women and not men, I don't know what will

the truth
08-05-2017, 10:54 PM
Morgan is right to a degree about our victim culture though many are genuine some people go for the victim option as a way to avoid life's responsibilities.

andybigbro
08-05-2017, 11:01 PM
He is such a douche bag.
He is clearly uneducated.

the truth
08-05-2017, 11:03 PM
Morgan is right on some things wrong on others to claim he's all bad and 3 very thing is black or white shows a deeper seated bias mainly from liberals

Beso
09-05-2017, 07:24 AM
Lol at people digging out the truth..yet use terms as "i hate that man":joker:

DemolitionRed
09-05-2017, 07:25 AM
Morgan is right to a degree about our victim culture though many are genuine some people go for the victim option as a way to avoid life's responsibilities.

But, but, but don't you regularly claim, as a man, to be the victim of women?

Alf
09-05-2017, 08:15 AM
If this doesn't prove that your issue is with women and not men, I don't know what willOh no! Jacks triggered again.

Alf
09-05-2017, 08:17 AM
He is such a douche bag.
He is clearly uneducated.You reckon?

thesheriff443
09-05-2017, 08:29 AM
Mental health is a illness and men suffering from it need help and support.

Men that go around drinking too much taking drugs playing video games and generally being a waster need smack in the mouth.

Alf
09-05-2017, 08:41 AM
Mental health is a illness and men suffering from it need help and support.

Men that go around drinking too much taking drugs playing video games and generally being a waster need smack in the mouthSo your answer is violence?

Kazanne
09-05-2017, 08:47 AM
Mental health is a illness and men suffering from it need help and support.

Men that go around drinking too much taking drugs playing video games and generally being a waster need smack in the mouth.

I don't know about smack in the mouth sheriff but yes you are right in the other sense.I agree with Morgan sometimes,other times I don't,but I don't think he can be called 'thick'

Withano
09-05-2017, 09:13 AM
Mental health is a illness and men suffering from it need help and support.

Men that go around drinking too much taking drugs playing video games and generally being a waster need smack in the mouth.

Is there a proven link between mental health and video game?

Jake.
09-05-2017, 09:22 AM
Mental health is a illness and men suffering from it need help and support.

Men that go around drinking too much taking drugs playing video games and generally being a waster need smack in the mouth.

:joker: @ men who play video games needing a "smack in the mouth"

user104658
09-05-2017, 09:22 AM
Is there a proven link between mental health and video game?

Well it's one of these newfangled whojumacallits and whatjamacallits don't you know and well young people something about lazy in my day we just had a tin can and a stick and we were happy with it too wouldn't know a hard day's work if it slapped them across the head.

So, obviously.

Niamh.
09-05-2017, 09:27 AM
Well it's one of these newfangled whojumacallits and whatjamacallits don't you know and well young people something about lazy in my day we just had a tin can and a stick and we were happy with it too wouldn't know a hard day's work if it slapped them across the head.

So, obviously.

People forget that when it was their generation it was horror movies responsible for all the bad in the world :laugh:

Withano
09-05-2017, 09:30 AM
Well it's one of these newfangled whojumacallits and whatjamacallits don't you know and well young people something about lazy in my day we just had a tin can and a stick and we were happy with it too wouldn't know a hard day's work if it slapped them across the head.

So, obviously.

:joker:

thesheriff443
09-05-2017, 10:29 AM
So your answer is violence?

Would not call it violence just a point in the right direction.

thesheriff443
09-05-2017, 10:31 AM
So your answer is violence?

Is there a proven link between mental health and video game?

There are two statements in my post!

Northern Monkey
09-05-2017, 11:09 AM
Mental health is a illness and men suffering from it need help and support.

Men that go around drinking too much taking drugs playing video games and generally being a waster need smack in the mouth.

Hey!That was me a few years back.....


I worked very hard to fund those times though

Northern Monkey
09-05-2017, 11:12 AM
People forget that when it was their generation it was horror movies responsible for all the bad in the world :laugh:And Judas Priest with their subliminal devil messages

Niamh.
09-05-2017, 11:14 AM
And Judas Priest with their subliminal devil messages

:laugh:

Remember not to play records backwards too :worry:

Northern Monkey
09-05-2017, 11:21 AM
:laugh:

Remember not to play records backwards too :worry:

Hey atleast they didn't bite the head off a live bat like Ozzy

Niamh.
09-05-2017, 11:24 AM
Hey atleast they didn't bite the head off a live bat like Ozzy

:laugh:

smudgie
09-05-2017, 11:35 AM
Oh and in our parents time it was the evil of rock and roll, dancing would send you to hell:laugh:

Kazanne
09-05-2017, 11:42 AM
Oh and in our parents time it was the evil of rock and roll, dancing would send you to hell:laugh:

I blame Elvis's hips:hehe:

the truth
09-05-2017, 12:35 PM
so weve actually moved the debate marginally beyond the populist over simplistic black and white, playing to the gallery position of saying, morgan is pure evil and 100% of everything he ever says is stupid ignorant evil etc
My work here is done

Niamh.
09-05-2017, 12:48 PM
so weve actually moved the debate marginally beyond the populist over simplistic black and white, playing to the gallery position of saying, morgan is pure evil and 100% of everything he ever says is stupid ignorant evil etc
My work here is done

95% :hee:

James
09-05-2017, 01:07 PM
so weve actually moved the debate marginally beyond the populist over simplistic black and white, playing to the gallery position of saying, morgan is pure evil and 100% of everything he ever says is stupid ignorant evil etc
My work here is done

I'd imagine his real position on the issue is more nuanced than what he puts on Twitter.

the truth
09-05-2017, 01:12 PM
I'd imagine his real position on the issue is more nuanced than what he puts on Twitter.

everyones is...twitter is moronic

the truth
09-05-2017, 01:13 PM
95% :hee:

its a start lol

Marsh.
09-05-2017, 02:08 PM
Lol at people digging out the truth..yet use terms as "i hate that man":joker:
Would you like to have a crack at that one again? You seem yo be trying to make a point but it's lost somewhere.

Kazanne
09-05-2017, 02:38 PM
Well like him or not he was spot on this morning about hospital car parking fees.

Marsh.
09-05-2017, 02:41 PM
Oh well, hospital car parking fees that's alright then. Here was me thinking that had nothing to do with male mental health and suicide rates. :hugesmile:

Kazanne
09-05-2017, 02:56 PM
Oh well, hospital car parking fees that's alright then. Here was me thinking that had nothing to do with male mental health and suicide rates. :hugesmile:

Don't you be starting:fist: I was just pointing out he is not always a plonka:hehe:

Marsh.
09-05-2017, 03:43 PM
:hehe: