On Loose Women at 1pm!

[Firewire]

Miss Nicola is discussing her heartbreaking realisation that she is no longer able to have children :(

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

she already has 3, that's plenty

[Cal.]

Nic :(

[Denver]

she already has 3, that's plenty

Tbh and there is always adoption

[Glenn.]

Yeah she has like 3...

[LukeB]

she already has 3, that's plenty

She probably wants more which is fair enough, but it's never a nice feeling being told you can;t have anymore babies.

[Glenn.]

More kids to leave when a reality show wants to pay her? I think she's set with 3.

[Firewire]

She has two

And it's so ignorant to suggest she has enough

[Glenn.]

There are some women that can't have any.

[Firewire]

So?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i thought she had 2 boys and a girl

[Firewire]

She has two boys

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

well she can buy another from africa like madonna then

[Glenn.]

So?

I'd have more sympathy for her if she had zero children but she has two. If she wants/needs another one she can adopt.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

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[Denver]

So?

Screaming at you thinking she deserves more children then couples who have gone through years and years of pain not being able to fall pregnant

[Firewire]

I think she just needs to have a little perspective. Get off live tv bleating that you can't have anymore kids and cherish the fact she's been blessed with two when other women don't have that luxury.

Did you watch?

Screaming at you thinking she deserves more children then couples who have gone through years and years of pain not being able to fall pregnant

I don't think that at all, so I'd prefer it if you didn't try to portray me like that.

[Denver]

Well it is how your coming across

[Firewire]

Well it is how your coming across

I don't understand how but whatever

[Kazanne]

You're incredibly ignorant

So was she when she threw that nasty remark to Kim,maybe it's karma and as others have said she's got 2 so why bleat about it.

[Denver]

I don't understand how but whatever

Because when a comment about women not being able to have kids was made your reply was so?

[Firewire]

Because when a comment about women not being able to have kids was made your reply was so?

My reply was "So?" because the comment in question had no relevance to the discussion

[Babayaro.]

As much as I don't like her it's silly to suggest that it's ok because she already has two children, and then compare her situation to those who have none.

[Denver]

As much as I don't like her it's silly to suggest that it's ok because she already has two children, and then compare her situation to those who have none.

She should look on the brighter side though.

rather then moan she can't have more be grateful for what she already has

[Babayaro.]

It's not as easy as that though.

[Denver]

Yes it sucks but being a mother isnt just about popping a child out of your fanny.

its about loving a child no matter where or who it came from

[DouglasS]

Karma is a bitch

[LukeB]

As much as I don't like her it's silly to suggest that it's ok because she already has two children, and then compare her situation to those who have none.

:clap1:

[Babayaro.]

Yes it sucks but being a mother isnt just about popping a child out of your fanny.

its about loving a child no matter where or who it came from

Who's disputing this though?

[Marsh.]

she already has 3, that's plenty
This. Selfish tramp.

[Denver]

Who's disputing this though?

Well everyone its not as if she hasnt had kids i would have more sympathy if she was childless but she got lucky where other women are not so lucky

[Babayaro.]

Yeah

[Marsh.]

Given the vile comment thrown at Kim it is quite ironic now.

[Firewire]

*woman has miscarriage*

Adam: it's ok she has three already

[Denver]

Why you twisting my words?

[Firewire]

Am I?

[Denver]

Funny how most of the thread said worse then me yet you are coming for me to gain a reaction

[LukeB]

no one deserves to have a chance of making babies taken away from them, got kids or not i will sympathise with both because it's really not a nice thing to happen.

[Denver]

Also nobody made comments about Miscarriage in this thread till you so its obvious what your aim is

[LukeB]

*woman has miscarriage*

Adam: it's ok she has three already

that's the logic i'm getting from it all.

[Babayaro.]

Why you twisting my words?

Tbh and there is always adoption

Well everyone its not as if she hasnt had kids i would have more sympathy if she was childless but she got lucky where other women are not so lucky

:facepalm:

[Denver]

Tell me where i said women ****ing deserve miscarriages

[LukeB]

one of my friends has two kids but got told she can't have anymore.. it would have been heartless,rude and nasty if i said oh well you have two kids why should it matter? etc she was deeply upset about the news

[Denver]

She sexual assaulted her husband for the 1st child anyway

[Denver]

Also its disgusting that 3 people in this thread believe adopted kids are worthless

[Firewire]

Also its disgusting that 3 people in this thread believe adopted kids are worthless

Why are you twisting my words?

[Babayaro.]

:laugh2: what??

[Denver]

Well dont say women having their own baby is better then adopted

[Firewire]

Don't think I did

[Denver]

That is the vibe i get

[Denver]

Also it is funny how her fans think we should get behind her and support her but found it funny when she goaded another women who lost her child and didnt have anyothers

[LukeB]

no one found it funny.. are you making all these things up? maybe ask Rob for some fan fiction tips.

[Marsh.]

*woman has miscarriage*

Adam: it's ok she has three already
:omgno:

[Marsh.]

Why can't she have kids?

[Babayaro.]

Also it is funny how her fans think we should get behind her and support her but found it funny when she goaded another women who lost her child and didnt have anyothers

1) I'm not her fan. I thought she was awful in CBB

2) People should "get behind her" or sympathise with her because that's the decent thing to do??

3) I didn't find it funny. Not many people did.

[Marsh.]

I don't think anyone should get behind her. She should disappear and deal with this in private. Not really something that warrants television interviews.

Her fame is questionable as it is.

Everyone has tough sh*t to deal with. I'm pretty sure telling the Loose Women about it won't help matters.

[Firewire]

Why can't she have kids?

She had to have her ovaries removed due to risk of cancer

[Marsh.]

She had to have her ovaries removed due to risk of cancer
Has to? Or chose to?

If there's only a risk of cancer rather than actual cancer this decision wouldn't be forced. It would be her choice.

Also can't she freeze her eggs?

[LukeB]

She had to have her ovaries removed due to risk of cancer

</3 no one deserves this no matter what they have done

[Firewire]

Has to? Or chose to?

If there's only a risk of cancer rather than actual cancer this decision wouldn't be forced. It would be her choice.

Also can't she freeze her eggs?

Had to

She was having smear tests every three months and she was advised her cysts will turn to cancer if she doesn't get them removed

[Denver]

Has to? Or chose to?

If there's only a risk of cancer rather than actual cancer this decision wouldn't be forced. It would be her choice.

Also can't she freeze her eggs?

Yes she could freeze her eggs if she really wanted too

[DouglasS]

Why should I feel bad. It's not 'vile'. I don't feel bad for a disgusting horrid woman who already has two kids, who I question is a good mother considering she'd go away for her kids for a TV show for almost free and just for self-fame [If she'd got a decent wage, fair enough shes providing for her kids].

Instead I'm going to care more about genuine and caring women who can't have kids or desperately want a kid rather than a nasty person who makes remarks about women who have miscarried saying 'at least I'm a mother' - It's literally karma, and now shes not having any more kids. I don't feel sorry for her at all.

[Denver]

I believe women should freeze some eggs just in case anyway

[DouglasS]

Karma works in weird ways, and it's hit her hard. Now she might learn and be able to empathise that kids can be precious to people next time she taunts a woman who has had a miscarriage.

[Marsh.]

I believe women should freeze some eggs just in case anyway
Why?

Some women have no desire to have kids anyway?

[Denver]

Why?

Some women have no desire to have kids anyway?

Well if they want kids that is.

Because many things can happen at a drop of a hat that can stop someone conceiving so a back up could be useful

[Firewire]

Well if they want kids that is.

Because many things can happen at a drop of a hat that can stop someone conceiving so a back up could be useful

But if they already have two already it doesn't matter, right?

[Denver]

Saying someone in this thread said people deserve miscarriages when that comment wasnt made is not an opinion its a vicious lie

[Marsh.]

I'd have preferred her to have just hit early menopause and dry up like a prune.

[Jake.]

So was she when she threw that nasty remark to Kim,maybe it's karma and as others have said she's got 2 so why bleat about it.

Karma is a bitch

It isn't karma, it's removing her ovaries to reduce her risk of cancer

[Kazanne]

Oh the drams , she has two healthy children,she has been told she cant have anymore,so she should be rejoicing in the two she has,it would be different had she not got any at all,as some women haven't who desperately want them,we cant always have what we want.if she keeps her ovaries she might have one,what decision would you make ? to remove the ovaries of course,she cant have it both ways and I certainly am not going to cry over it, she was vile to Kim,maybe she will understand how Kim felt now.

[Jake.]

Cool

[Glenn.]

Wow this still going strong

[Jake.]

carry on with your insults ,I can see why you liked her so much,she cant have any more kids due to having her ovaries removed,so whats it to be more kids or dying from cancer.

I didn't like her.

And can you not see what I'm talking about when you say stuff like this? Can you not fathom that it'd still be a horrid decision to make?

[Kazanne]

I didn't like her.

And can you not see what I'm talking about when you say stuff like this? Can you not fathom that it'd still be a horrid decision to make?

Of course it is,but all I said was she was lucky to have two,some women cannot have any. I have also had womens problems like that,it happens to a lot of us, we have to deal with it,i am just glad I have the ones I have.

[Jake.]

Of course it is,but all I said was she was lucky to have two,some women cannot have any. I have also had womens problems like that,it happens to a lot of us, we have to deal with it,i am just glad I have the ones I have.

You didn't "just" say that at all, you pinned it down as "karma". As someone who has a parent who has been through it (albeit my mother has had it worse), I can tell you it isn't an easy decision and is heartbreaking watching the mother you love feel like less of a woman

[Jake.]

And as for her speaking about it publicly, I can't see the negative in raising awareness.

[Jake.]

And how do you know that?as I explained in the above post.

If that's the case then I apologise

[Kazanne]

You didn't "just" say that at all, you pinned it down as "karma". As someone who has a parent who has been through it (albeit my mother has had it worse), I can tell you it isn't an easy decision and is heartbreaking watching the mother you love feel like less of a woman

I said maybe it was karma in response to what she said to kim,I dont like the woman never have,why are you ignoring the fact I said I felt sorry for women who cannot have kids?:shrug: I am not spending time arguing over Nicola McClean,so lets leave it there.and for you to say I have never been through anything like that you really know nothing,so leave it eh?

[Jake.]

I said maybe it was karma in response to what she said to kim,I dont like the woman never have,why are you ignoring the fact I said I felt sorry for women who cannot have kids?:shrug: I am not spending time arguing over Nicola McClean,so lets leave it there.and for you to say I have never been through anything like that you really know nothing,so leave it eh?

I actually said "thankfully you haven't" and when I saw otherwise I apologised.

[Kazanne]

If that's the case then I apologise

You dont need to apologise Jake I see where you are coming from,but I know what it's like to lose one and to have problems,that is why I didn't like what she said to Kim but that is past now,but I still dont like her.:hehe:

[Jake.]

"I don't like her and I never have" really isn't relevant either though, take away the fact that it's Nicola McLean and see if your opinion changes.

[Jake.]

You dont need to apologise Jake I see where you are coming from,but I know what it's like to lose one and to have problems,that is why I didn't like what she said to Kim but that is past now,but I still dont like her.:hehe:

Nah because if you've gone through something like that then an apology is due

[Cal.]

Mess when the forum thought Nicola would use the death of Kim's child against her in a petty argument on Big Brother

[Denver]

She did though

[LukeB]

"I don't like her and I never have" really isn't relevant either though, take away the fact that it's Nicola McLean and see if your opinion changes.


This is true. No one would say the same thing if its someone they have in their life was going through it I guess hating overshadows judgement.

[Marsh.]

And as for her speaking about it publicly, I can't see the negative in raising awareness.

Raising awareness is great.

Someone like Nicola McLean appearing on a programme like Loose Women isn't raising awareness. It's like doing an interview for the Sun, it's for her own personal exposure.

[Cal.]

If she wants to go on and talk about it then she's more than entitled to.

[Jake.]

Raising awareness is great.

Someone like Nicola McLean appearing on a programme like Loose Women isn't raising awareness. It's like doing an interview for the Sun, it's for her own personal exposure.

I can see what you mean but at the same time I can't see the harm

[Marsh.]

Sad news. Very tragic to see a lack of empathy because of how she came across on a reality show. It's not like she killed anyone, not sure how people can comment on her parenting

Although reading who it is in this thread I don't think anyone should be coming for other people's parenting

Well, it's not really about how she came across on a reality show.

It's about something specific she said to a woman who had lost the only child she ever had. There's a direct correlation between her making that comment to a woman and the comments she's now receiving given this predicament she's now been put in.

I'm not saying people are justified in being glad this has happened to her or anything, just pointing out there is an obvious similarity in the circumstances to warrant it arriving in the discussion.

[reece(:]

This **** is so lame, just offer some sympathy and move on instead of dragging up Kim stuff which is not relevant.

[Denver]

She doesnt deserve sympathy

[Marsh.]

If she wants to go on and talk about it then she's more than entitled to.

Yeah, and I'm more than entitled to comment about how self serving and narcissistic she is.

Not that she's the only one, I hate the celebrity culture where the FIRST port of call for a celeb who has received bad news or gone through a traumatic time is to capitalise on the attention and get fame and money from it. Or beg for sympathy like those who tweet a picture of them next to a bloody IV drip.

I find it all very crass.

[LukeB]

Loose woman do get guests on for self awareness same as this morning. Nothing wrong with that.

[Amy Jade]

Some of the posts in here are truely repulsive and those who posted them should be ashamed.

She has been ill for a while and had to have a hysterectomy to lower the risk of cancer and the prospect of possibly passing away before her children grew up, she wanted to have more children and decided to talk about her experiences. How is any of that karma?

Have some bloody empathy.

[Marsh.]

Loose woman do get guests on for self awareness same as this morning. Nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, and they also get women famous for getting free boobs on the NHS and for Katie Price to talk about her recent husband cheating on her and Nicola McLean to get another five minutes. Poor me, look at how I can emote through 20 inches of make up.

[Marsh.]

I can see what you mean but at the same time I can't see the harm

Oh no, for the cause I don't suppose there is a harm in the end. And I truly hope it does make a positive impact, no matter how small.

Still makes me squirm when the Z list glossy rag people use it to capitalise on their profile.

[LukeB]

Yeah, and they also get women famous for getting free boobs on the NHS and for Katie Price to talk about her recent husband cheating on her and Nicola McLean to get another five minutes. Poor me, look at how I can emote through 20 inches of make up.

But nicola's story is actually serious though so all that is not the same.

[Marsh.]

But nicola's story is actually serious though so all that is not the same.

Yes, and that Jody woman needing new boobs to deal with her mental issues was serious too? Nobody's questioning the seriousness of the topic of discussion.

[Denver]

Some of the posts in here are truely repulsive and those who posted them should be ashamed.

She has been ill for a while and had to have a hysterectomy to lower the risk of cancer and the prospect of possibly passing away before her children grew up, she wanted to have more children and decided to talk about her experiences. How is any of that karma?

Have some bloody empathy.

My mum was forced to abort a baby and have an hysterectomy but she was getting money from her story or making a big deal about it she valued her life and the kids she already had over having more kids

[LukeB]

Yes, and that Jody woman needing new boobs to deal with her mental issues was serious too? Nobody's questioning the seriousness of the topic of discussion.

Idk who this jody woman so i cant comment.

But they whole katie price thing is different to nicola's heartbreaking story that is self awareness. Just because its nicola mclean or other z list glamour girls dont mean its different to anyone else going on a tv show for the same reason even non celebs.

[Marsh.]

Idk who this jody woman so i cant comment.

But they whole katie price thing is different to nicola's heartbreaking story that is self awareness. Just because its nicola mclean or other z list glamour girls dont mean its different to anyone else going on a tv show for the same reason even non celebs.

Freudian slip?

[Cal.]

My mum was forced to abort a baby and have an hysterectomy but she was getting money from her story or making a big deal about it she valued her life and the kids she already had over having more kids

And your mum dealt with her own way. Jake's mum dealt with it her own way. Nicola is dealing with it her own way. They're all different women and will have their own way of coping with bad cards that life has dealt them.

[Denver]

And your mum dealt with her own way. Jake's mum dealt with it her own way. Nicola is dealing with it her own way. They're all different women and will have their own way of coping with bad cards that life has dealt them.

But the best way is to do it behind close doors with family because you are gonna open yourself up to criticism on telling story on national tv

[Jake.]

And your mum dealt with her own way. Jake's mum dealt with it her own way. Nicola is dealing with it her own way. They're all different women and will have their own way of coping with bad cards that life has dealt them.

:love: nail on head

[Marsh.]

But the best way is to do it behind close doors with family because you are gonna open yourself up to criticism on telling story on national tv

But Nicola needs to earn money and this is how she usually does it.... talking about herself on TV.

[LukeB]

There really isn't a better way of dealing with tragic events. Everyone does what they think is best, talking about it openly helps too.

[LukeB]

But Nicola needs to earn money and this is how she usually does it.... talking about herself on TV.

God forbid she goes on tv to talk about something serious.:fist: Nicola doing it is the same as others. Are people meant to shut up about it? It shouldn't matter who they are. Dont let your hate for them overshadow everything:nono:

[Marsh.]

God forbid she goes on tv to talk about something serious.:fist: Nicola doing it is the same as others. Are people meant to shut up about it? It shouldn't matter who they are. Dont let your hate for them overshadow everything:nono:

I don't feel strongly enough about her to hate her.

"People" aren't meant to shut up about anything. But I got bored of Nicola's narcissistic "pity me, I have a hard life. Look at me pout" act and self promotion long ago.

If you think she made this appearance for anything other than for her to be on TV and maybe the fee then good for you.

[LukeB]

I don't feel strongly enough about her to hate her.

"People" aren't meant to shut up about anything. But I got bored of Nicola's narcissistic "pity me, I have a hard life. Look at me pout" act and self promotion long ago.

If you think she made this appearance for anything other than for her to be on TV and maybe the fee then good for you.

I highly doubt the fee would be a lot. Its probably **** money but no one knows if the guest get paid, some come on to promote their products, self awareness and stuff.

[Marsh.]

I highly doubt the fee would be a lot.

Probably not but that's what the majority of her "career" has been. Lol.

no one knows if the guest get paid.

They do get paid, hence they always make a fuss when they have a guest who "is not getting paid for this appearance".

[Amy Jade]

My mum was forced to abort a baby and have an hysterectomy but she was getting money from her story or making a big deal about it she valued her life and the kids she already had over having more kids

There isn't one correct way to react to illness. Just different ways.

Nicola has decided to publicly speak about her experiences.

[Amy Jade]

But the best way is to do it behind close doors with family because you are gonna open yourself up to criticism on telling story on national tv

I disagree the best way to deal with things is 'behind closed doors'.

Jade Goody is a great example to a woman choosing to highlight her diagnosis of terminal cancer in the hope of educating others and encouraging women to go and get tested. Her doing that actually saved lives.

[Denver]

Jade admitted she milk her illness as much as possible for money for her kids that why she let the camera's see her final days

[AnnieK]

I didn't see the interview today. Was Nicola promoting getting regular smears and checks or just telling her story? If she was promotion women's health matters then its an important issue....Otherwise it is just getting her face on TV. As Amy said, jade goody's story prompted a lot if young women to start having smears et and early detection is essential in getting quick and effective treatment so any "celeb" highlighting those issues is a benefit.

[Marsh.]

Nicola has decided to publicly speak about her experiences.

How uncharacteristic of her.

[Marsh.]

I disagree the best way to deal with things is 'behind closed doors'.

Jade Goody is a great example to a woman choosing to highlight her diagnosis of terminal cancer in the hope of educating others and encouraging women to go and get tested. Her doing that actually saved lives.

Actually, IIRC, Jade Goody made her illness so public with documentaries, newspaper coverage and interviews/videos etc etc to raise money to leave for her sons so they could have a good education/life. She was very open about that.

It having the effect it did on so many women getting themselves checked was probably a very positive side effect.

[Amy Jade]

I didn't see the interview today. Was Nicola promoting getting regular smears and checks or just telling her story? If she was promotion women's health matters then its an important issue....Otherwise it is just getting her face on TV. As Amy said, jade goody's story prompted a lot if young women to start having smears et and early detection is essential in getting quick and effective treatment so any "celeb" highlighting those issues is a benefit.

I personally believe they go hand in hand. Hearing somebody talk about their experiences is always helpful even if it's only reaches one person, the other day when Michelle Heaton showed her scarring from a double mastectomy my mum and I had a chat about it, the very same night I checked myself in the shower, something I never usually do tbh.

I'm not saying Nicola isn't occasionally an attention seeker but personally I appreciate her being so open, on twitter people were telling her it made them think or they learned something.

[Kazanne]

I didn't see the interview today. Was Nicola promoting getting regular smears and checks or just telling her story? If she was promotion women's health matters then its an important issue....Otherwise it is just getting her face on TV. As Amy said, jade goody's story prompted a lot if young women to start having smears et and early detection is essential in getting quick and effective treatment so any "celeb" highlighting those issues is a benefit.

I saw the interview she was just saying that she had a lot of troubles in her life and telling how she was told she might have to have her ovaries removed as she had cysts on them and they kept coming back and she was devastated as she coudn't have any more kids,that was about it Oh and that she had been on BB TWICE,but would't do another one and she was grateful to Coleen being in there as she was so anxious,there was no urging women to get anything checked,she was just talking about her own issues. I have had a cyst on the ovary and had to have the ovary removed,I have to say when the cyst was there it was extremely painful, so better to get ovary removed.

[rusticgal]

And as for her speaking about it publicly, I can't see the negative in raising awareness.

Raising awareness in what though...?
Once again it's all about her. Unfortunate...yes. It's hard to be told you can't have anymore children if that's what you want BUT she has been blessed with two healthy children..many have no children and given that devastating news. That's tragic...be grateful for what you have and have empathy for those that don't have what she desires 'more of'....she should empathise with women like Kim who she outrageously and thoughtlessly lambasted with her cruel words.
Selfish..greedy and tactless sums her up.

[Glenn.]

Raising awareness in what though...?
Once again it's all about her. Unfortunate...yes. It's hard to be told you can't have anymore children if that's what you want BUT she has been blessed with two healthy children..many have no children and given that devastating news. That's tragic...be grateful for what you have and have empathy for those that don't have what she desires 'more of'....she should empathise with women like Kim who she outrageously and thoughtlessly lambasted with her cruel words.
Selfish..greedy and tactless sums her up.

This tbh except the Kim bit. I'm sure it was stated Nicola didn't know about Kim's past when she made that comment in the house. The rest though? Bang on.

[Marsh.]

This tbh except the Kim bit. I'm sure it was stated Nicola didn't know about Kim's past when she made that comment in the house.

Yeah, it was stated. Personally, I think she's a bitch who denies being so when caught out.

[LukeB]

Raising awareness in what though...?
Once again it's all about her. Unfortunate...yes. It's hard to be told you can't have anymore children if that's what you want BUT she has been blessed with two healthy children..many have no children and given that devastating news. That's tragic...be grateful for what you have and have empathy for those that don't have what she desires 'more of'....she should empathise with women like Kim who she outrageously and thoughtlessly lambasted with her cruel words.
Selfish..greedy and tactless sums her up.

It's tragic both ways tbh. just because she already has kids doesn't mean she should be ok with knowing she isn't allowed more kids. My friend with two kids went through the same thing, I wouldn't dare to say or think "you already have two kids, be grateful because there others who can't have kids" because it seems quite rude and heartless. A woman deserves to be able to have how many kids they want and it's tragic how there's a chance it could be taken away from them but that's how life works i guess. I wouldn't wish that on anyone

[Glenn.]

Her life hasn't ended because she can't have more children though.

[Marsh.]

Let's face it there's not much this woman doesn't make dramatic. We saw in BB how she would have a breakdown over a chipped nail.

[rusticgal]

It's tragic both ways tbh. just because she already has kids doesn't mean she should be ok with knowing she isn't allowed more kids. My friend with two kids went through the same thing, I wouldn't dare to say or think "you already have two kids, be grateful because there others who can't have kids" because it seems quite rude and heartless. A woman deserves to be able to have how many kids they want and it's tragic how there's a chance it could be taken away from them but that's how life works i guess. I wouldn't wish that on anyone

Trying for a second child I miscarried. I remember coming home from that devastating news but comforted myself in the fact that I had one healthy boy at home. In my mind I accepted that if that's what I am blessed with...then so be it...in the knowledge that I was lucky to be a mother to the child I had.
Sometimes we need to accept that there are many people out there so far worse off and I was grateful that I was lucky to be a mother...something so many other women desired but we're not as lucky as me. Fortunately I went on to have the 2nd child we desired.
The moral being...be grateful for what you have in life and think of those less fortunate than yourself. Something Nicola is ungrateful for...and she also has financial wealth many would give their right arm for. She is a shallow, selfish individual who fails to be gracious in what she has and doesn't give a thought to her self pity and its all me me me...