Attenshun - Modern Educayshun

[Tozzie]

very deep but shows how the world of today is a culture of hypersensitivity because of so called political correctness, correctness? who said it's correct what they say. Do as political correctness says or else :fist:
The video is extreme but we are fast becoming a world like this. Just my opinion.
Discuss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM&t=22s

[Northern Monkey]

:laugh:I think some US uni's are already like that.They need to draught Milo in to sort em out

[ebandit]

...i'm not spfisticated a spades a spade..................'n i eat meat

...puzzled aboot the word educayshun............google next......................

Mark L

[Kizzy]

Ok... Why is this in serious debates too, are we meant to debate some drama students performance piece now?

It doesn't say anything about hypersensitivity, just whipping up more resentment against anyone who isn't led by the nose via media headlines.

Do what who says or else?

[Alf]

Ok... Why is this in serious debates too, are we meant to debate some drama students performance piece now?

It doesn't say anything about hypersensitivity, just whipping up more resentment against anyone who isn't led by the nose via media headlines.

Do what who says or else?Report it to the authorities Kizzy, quick sharp.

Tell them, your safe space has been violated.

[Tozzie]

Ok... Why is this in serious debates too, are we meant to debate some drama students performance piece now?

It doesn't say anything about hypersensitivity, just whipping up more resentment against anyone who isn't led by the nose via media headlines.

Do what who says or else?

It might not say anything about hypersensitivity but I am, can you not understand the message in this video? This is how it is like it or not

[jaxie]

Ok... Why is this in serious debates too, are we meant to debate some drama students performance piece now?

It doesn't say anything about hypersensitivity, just whipping up more resentment against anyone who isn't led by the nose via media headlines.

Do what who says or else?

Do we have to run subjects of discussion by you now? Come on! Let people talk about what they want to talk about.

[Kizzy]

It might not say anything about hypersensitivity but I am, can you not understand the message in this video? This is how it is like it or not

There is no message, you've latched onto it as it fits a media orchestrated narrative.

Nothing like that ever happens, it's simply a piece of performance art that you are attempting to fit into the current socio-political landscape.

This is not how it is.

[Alf]

This actually made me think of the Simpsons SJW scene.

People may have seen it, but if you haven't, then here it is.


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[Kizzy]

:facepalm:

[Beso]

very deep but shows how the world of today is a culture of hypersensitivity because of so called political correctness, correctness? who said it's correct what they say. Do as political correctness says or else :fist:
The video is extreme but we are fast becoming a world like this. Just my opinion.
Discuss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM&t=22s


All this pc bollox is just for facebook and other internet outlets.

It doesnt effect normal life cause any mishap can be easily laughed off.

[Tozzie]

All this pc bollox is just for facebook and other internet outlets.

It doesnt effect normal life cause any mishap can be easily laughed off.

One thing or another offends these days, I'm offended you can't see their is some truth in the video :laugh:

[Kizzy]

It always has, it's just that then if you were being offensive you acknowledged and accepted it. You didn't redirect your shame to someone else on the basis of some imaginary flaw.

[Beso]

One thing or another offends these days, I'm offended you can't see their is some truth in the video :laugh:

:shrug:
Its just another video.

I believe what i said to be teue due to life experience. Soz. But the internet has buggered everything up.

[Greg!]

:laugh:I think some US uni's are already like that.They need to draught Milo in to sort em out

Not the peroxide peado

[Tozzie]

It always has, it's just that then if you were being offensive you acknowledged and accepted it. You didn't redirect your shame to someone else on the basis of some imaginary flaw.

I've been offended many times during my lifetime, people have done and said things that hurt but I'm made of strong stuff and know that thats life, you just get over it, simples. I have flaws just like everyone else, unless of course one thinks they are perfect.

[Tozzie]

:shrug:
Its just another video.

I believe what i said to be teue due to life experience. Soz. But the internet has buggered everything up.

internet, media, yeah, they are buggers, bad buggers too!

Did I just see a ball bag fly by :laugh:

[Beso]

internet, media, yeah, they are buggers, bad buggers too!

Did I just see a ball bag fly by :laugh:

If i said sooty, you would say sweep.

[Tozzie]

If i said sooty, you would say sweep.

No I wouldn't I'd say SUE, or is it SOO? :hehe:

[Kizzy]

I've been offended many times during my lifetime, people have done and said things that hurt but I'm made of strong stuff and know that thats life, you just get over it, simples. I have flaws just like everyone else, unless of course one thinks they are perfect.

Have you ever accepted when you have offended others though? Is it always your fault if you are offended? Did you feel you couldn't voice you were offended for fear of being considered 'PC'?

[Beso]

No I wouldn't I'd say SUE, or is it SOO? :hehe:

You wont offend me so just say what you mean instead of wiping your tits over the keyboard:conf:

[Tozzie]

You wont offend me so just say what you mean instead of wiping your tits over the keyboard:conf:

I don't have man boobs thank you very much :fist:

[Beso]

I don't have man boobs thank you very much :fist:

Wow, you have talented titties.:douf:

[Kizzy]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/6a1d5d049d22955e34a475cd3103847a/tumblr_ni38r9DxJc1qgf1i8o1_400.gif

[Beso]

-5ish for me for what its worth.

Not sure why i get persecuted for my forefathers doings but hey ho, I still get paid on friday.:shrug:

[Brillopad]

Ok... Why is this in serious debates too, are we meant to debate some drama students performance piece now?

It doesn't say anything about hypersensitivity, just whipping up more resentment against anyone who isn't led by the nose via media headlines.

Do what who says or else?

Hypersensitivity is rampant in unis due to spoilt brats being pandered to? They all feel 'entitled'. Waste of valuable headspace even giving them the time of day.

[user104658]

Eeeeuuuurgh it's so passive-aggressive and whiney.

[Kizzy]

Hypersensitivity is rampant in unis due to spoilt brats being pandered to? They all feel 'entitled'. Waste of valuable headspace even giving them the time of day.

So now it's nothing to do with PC it's students? :/

[Withano]

I honestly can't tell if they're mocking PC brigade, or the people who get hysterically upset over the slightest ounce of PC

[Kizzy]

I honestly can't tell if they're mocking PC brigade, or the people who get hysterically upset over the slightest ounce of PC

For me it's the latter, how could anyone think this has any baring on reality?

There was a comedy programme called 'Jam' it had sketches like this that were dark distorted reflections along real life scenarios.

This one is very apt.. :)

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[Withano]

For me it's the latter, how could anyone think this has any baring on reality?

There was a comedy programme called 'Jam' it had sketches like this that were dark distorted reflections along real life scenarios.

This one is very apt.. :)

kGex0kLgNok

:joker:
That looks hilarious! Might see if I can watch the show online!

[Tozzie]

Have you ever accepted when you have offended others though? Is it always your fault if you are offended? Did you feel you couldn't voice you were offended for fear of being considered 'PC'?

If someone upsets me I will tell them so, sometimes people offend without thinking about what they are saying/doing. Unless you have a hide of an elephant most people get offended at some point but I would prefer not to go around crying about it and move on.

[Kizzy]

If someone upsets me I will tell them so, sometimes people offend without thinking about what they are saying/doing. Unless you have a hide of an elephant most people get offended at some point but I would prefer not to go around crying about it and move on.

So does that make you PC?...

[Brillopad]

So does that make you PC?...

No, it makes her real and honest. A breath of fresh air in this thread for sure.

[Kizzy]

No, it makes her real and honest. A breath of fresh air in this thread for sure.

Ah right when some voice their offence they are a breath of fresh air, and when others do it they are PC snowflakes?... I get it now.

[Withano]

Ah right when some voice their offence they are a breath of fresh air, and when others do it they are PC snowflakes?... I get it now.

:joker:

[Brillopad]

Ah right when some voice their offence they are a breath of fresh air, and when others do it they are PC snowflakes?... I get it now.

Nope - it's just one is more honest than the other. More honest and more valid.

[user104658]

Nope - it's just one is more honest than the other. More honest and more valid.

So right-leaning people who say "I'm offended by that" are honest and valid but left-leaning people who say "I'm offended by that" are dishonest, invalid snowflakes.

It's all starting to come together now. Makes perfect sense really.

[Withano]

So right-leaning people who say "I'm offended by that" are honest and valid but left-leaning people who say "I'm offended by that" are dishonest, invalid snowflakes.

It's all starting to come together now. Makes perfect sense really.

:joker: painful!

[Brillopad]

So right-leaning people who say "I'm offended by that" are honest and valid but left-leaning people who say "I'm offended by that" are dishonest, invalid snowflakes.

It's all starting to come together now. Makes perfect sense really.

I meant all those daft people who get all offended over nothing and needing safe spaces aren't honest in their offence - it's just entitled crap.

[Withano]

I meant all those daft people who get all offended over nothing and needing safe spaces aren't honest in their offence - it's just entitled crap.

All you've done is made it clear that you use PC as an insult to those you dislike

[Brillopad]

All you've done is made it clear that you use PC as an insult to those you dislike

You would say that wouldn't you. Think I'll take that with the pinch of salt it deserves. Very good case of pot and kettle.

[Withano]

You would say that wouldn't you. Think I'll take that with the pinch of salt it deserves. Very good case of pot and kettle.

I dont insult people I dislike, its against the rules :shrug:

[Brillopad]

I dont insult people I dislike, its against the rules :shrug:

Of course you don't - so I wonder why several posters have accused you of it previously. Stop playing the innocent and insulting the intelligence of many posters. People can read.

[Withano]

Of course you don't - so I wonder why several posters have accused you of it previously. Stop playing the innocent and insulting the intelligence of many posters. People can read.

I've had one infaction in 2017 and its because you found me calling you 'luv' insulting :shrug:

(Does that make you PC or a valid breath of fresh air btw?)

aside from this, I dont remember any other poster claiming I've been insulting... Unlike you, who just admitted you use PC as a way to insult, and therefore has insulted 10+ members throughout your time on tibb :hee:

[Kizzy]

I've said many times I find being referred to as PC insulting as it's used in an attempt to nullify anything I attempt to say on any topic, I'm sure it's agreed that it's a breath of fresh air that I can admit that.

[Withano]

I've said many times I find being referred to as PC insulting as it's used in an attempt to nullify anything I attempt to say on any topic, I'm sure it's agreed that it's a breath of fresh air that I can admit that.

Well, now that brillo has said that she is either pot or kettle in the 'using PC as a way to insult people she dislikes' scenario, she'll surely be infracted next time.

[Brillopad]

I've had one infaction in 2017 and its because you found me calling you 'luv' insulting :shrug:

(Does that make you PC or a valid breath of fresh air btw?)

aside from this, I dont remember any other poster claiming I've been insulting... Unlike you, who just admitted you use PC as a way to insult, and therefore has insulted 10+ members throughout your time on tibb :hee:

Yes they have - convienent memory block you have there. I admitted nothing as my comment on 'pot and kettle' was referring to your intent and hypocrisy, not agreeing I was actually doing what you accused me of. Don't try to put words in my mouth.

As for your infraction - I am not a mod and don't dish them out. If you are going to make sexist comments when you get so upset and offended at comments you perceive as racist, I guess you have no grounds for complaint.

[Brillopad]

I've said many times I find being referred to as PC insulting as it's used in an attempt to nullify anything I attempt to say on any topic, I'm sure it's agreed that it's a breath of fresh air that I can admit that.

Fair enough - but if you will use words such as 'bigot' to others again how can you complain? The use of one word is not likely to stop the use of the other -it stands to reason.

[Withano]

Yes they have - convienent memory block you have there. I admitted nothing as my comment on 'pot and kettle' was referring to your intent and hypocrisy, not agreeing I was actually doing what you accused me of. Don't try to put words in my mouth.

As for your infraction - I am not a mod and don't dish them out. If you are going to make sexist comments when you get so upset and offended at comments you perceive as racist, I guess you have no grounds for complaint.

I'd never make a sexist comment, luv isnt sexist. That tibb rule purely exists for your benefit because you're a valid breath of fresh air, I can call any other member 'luv' without being infracted if I wish to do so.

[Brillopad]

I'd never make a sexist comment, luv isnt sexist. That tibb rule purely exists for your benefit because you're a valid breath of fresh air, I can call any other member 'luv' without being infracted if I wish to do so.

It is as 'sexist' as the 'racist' allegations are 'racist'. They are either both valid, or not. Can't have it both ways. Dish it out don't complain if others give it back.

My comment on 'a breath of fresh air' seems to have ruffled a few feathers judging by the sarcastic comments. I found a poster's comments very open and honest - a breath of fresh air. I stand by that. No need to take it so personally.

[Kizzy]

Fair enough - but if you will use words such as 'bigot' to others again how can you complain? The use of one word is not likely to stop the use of the other -it stands to reason.

However as I have explained countless times bigot is an actual word, with a defined definition... PC is not, it's nothing more than an invented nonsense term for those who are too feeble minded to formulate a reasoned response to any given topic.

[Withano]

It is as 'sexist' as the 'racist' allegations are 'racist'. They are either both valid, or not. Can't have it both ways. Dish it out don't complain if others give it back.

My comment on 'a breath of fresh air' seems to have ruffled a few feathers judging by the sarcastic comments. I found a poster's comments very open and honest - a breath of fresh air. I stand by that. No need to take it so personally.

I am so certain that I've never said that a tibb member was a racist. Thats a very strong and very serious allegation. Your comparisons are odd. (Your breath of fresh air comment 'ruffled feathers' because it is hilariously hypocritical, I think you see that, right? I'll explain it just in case - lefties who get offended are PC, righties who get offended are breaths of fresh air - its honestly hilarious, albeit unintentionally)

[Brillopad]

However as I have explained countless times bigot is an actual word, with a defined definition... PC is not, it's nothing more than an invented nonsense term for those who are too feeble minded to formulate a logical response to any given topic.

Whether you perceive it as a 'real' word or not, the use such words/terminology is based on opinion rather than fact ie saying one has concerns about mass immigration does not make someone 'racist' - that is your interpretation based either on sensitivity or intent to shut down discussion - it is not based on fact.

Anyway we have been down this road a million times, nothing ever changes.

[Brillopad]

I am so certain that I've never said that a tibb member was a racist. Thats a very strong and very serious allegation. Your comparisons are odd. (Your breath of fresh air comment 'ruffled feathers' because it is hilariously hypocritical, I think you see that, right? I'll explain it just in case - lefties who get offended are PC, righties who get offended are breaths of fresh air - its honestly hilarious, albeit unintentionally)

That poster wasn't playing mind games she was giving an honest and open opinion. Why did that upset you so much I wonder. Either your comprehension skills were lacking at that time or mind games are still the name of the game.

[Kizzy]

It is as 'sexist' as the 'racist' allegations are 'racist'. They are either both valid, or not. Can't have it both ways. Dish it out don't complain if others give it back.

My comment on 'a breath of fresh air' seems to have ruffled a few feathers judging by the sarcastic comments. I found a poster's comments very open and honest - a breath of fresh air. I stand by that. No need to take it so personally.

Luv isn't sexist, it's a colloquialism .. Trust me I'm from Leeds, everyone and his dog is a luv.

[Brillopad]

Luv isn't sexist, it's a colloquialism .. Trust me I'm from Leeds, everyone and his dog is a luv.

A lot of women do find it offensive, just as some find any opposition to immigration offensive, just as some find any criticism of Islam offensive, just as some find certain discussions in lectures offensive. If you support one type of offense you can't ignore another.

As I said before all or nothing. Some will keep being selective on this subject according to their own personal opinions. It is hypocritical. Who are you, or anyone else, to pass judgement on who and who doesn't have the right to be offended.

[Kizzy]

Whether you perceive it as a 'real' word or not, the use such words/terminology is based on opinion rather than fact ie saying one has concerns about mass immigration does not make someone 'racist' - that is your interpretation based either on sensitivity or intent to shut down discussion - it is not based on fact.

Anyway we have been down this road a million times, nothing ever changes.

Oh no, no, no, you don't get to choose whether the dictionary definition applies to you or not... If you make a statement and it's textbook bigotry then be prepared to be called out on it.

There are a million and one ways you can express yourself on any topic, voicing concerns is not bigoted. However if bigoted/racist terms are used it's not my interpretation that the statement is bigoted/racist if it falls within the perimeters of the definition.

Yes we have been down this road often, it's time that it was accepted that it's important to take ownership of what you say.

If one is a bigot one must stand behind that and accept it like a true Brit mustn't one?

[user104658]

A lot of women do find it offensive, just as some find any opposition to immigration offensive, just as some find any criticism of Islam offensive, just as some find certain discussions in lectures offensive. If you support one type of offense you can't ignore another.

As I said before all or nothing. Some will keep being selective on this subject according to their own personal opinions. It is hypocritical. Who are you, or anyone else, to pass judgement on who and who doesn't have the right to be offended.

But you DO object to these terms :think:. I'm totally confused. If it's "all or nothing" - are you opposed to Political Correctness or not? Is it ok for the forum to call you "luv" or not? If it isn't, if you find it offensive, then by your OWN admission, you cannot tell people what the can or can't find offensive... and therefore, you are in support of "PC"... luv.

[Kizzy]

A lot of women do find it offensive, just as some find any opposition to immigration offensive, just as some find any criticism of Islam offensive, just as some find certain discussions in lectures offensive. If you support one type of offense you can't ignore another.

As I said before all or nothing. Some will keep being selective on this subject according to their own personal opinions. It is hypocritical. Who are you, or anyone else, to pass judgement on who and who doesn't have the right to be offended.

What... You mean like being accused of being PC for being offended?


You have backed yourself into a corner here.

[Brillopad]

What... You mean like being accused of being PC for being offended?


You have backed yourself into a corner here.

What you don't seem to get is that my comments are a reaction to posters who have on many occasions passed judgements on others but don't like it when others do the same to them. It is called making a point.

No corners here, as I could say exactly the same to you.

[Brillopad]

But you DO object to these terms :think:. I'm totally confused. If it's "all or nothing" - are you opposed to Political Correctness or not? Is it ok for the forum to call you "luv" or not? If it isn't, if you find it offensive, then by your OWN admission, you cannot tell people what the can or can't find offensive... and therefore, you are in support of "PC"... luv.

I object when it comes from those dishing out judgements in other threads. Give it take it. Speaks for itself.

[Kizzy]

What you don't seem to get is that my comments are a reaction to posters who have on many occasions passed judgements on others but don't like it when others do the same to them. It is called making a point.

No corners here, as I could say exactly the same to you.

Again... you can be judged racist if you say racist things, it's very simple.

It's not those who expose that who are at fault.

How then can anyone be judged 'PC' when it is such a broad sword and appears to mean anything to anyone?

It makes no point as it makes zero sense, it is simply an insult, a way to detract from the issue at hand.

[Brillopad]

Again... you can be judged racist if you say racist things, it's very simple.

It's not those who expose that who are at fault.

How then can anyone be judged 'PC' when it is such a broad sword and appears to mean anything to anyone?

It makes no point as it makes zero sense, it is simply an insult, a way to detract from the issue at hand.

Not everyone's interpretation of the meaning of 'racist' is correct. As already mentioned some are either over sensitive to criticism and see any criticism as 'racist' or some use such terminology to shut down discussion.

Your claim that anyone using that word is correct because it's definition is in the dictionary is ludicrous. Interpretation is key as is intent.

[Withano]

A lot of women do find it offensive, just as some find any opposition to immigration offensive, just as some find any criticism of Islam offensive, just as some find certain discussions in lectures offensive. If you support one type of offense you can't ignore another.

As I said before all or nothing. Some will keep being selective on this subject according to their own personal opinions. It is hypocritical. Who are you, or anyone else, to pass judgement on who and who doesn't have the right to be offended.

That time you fought for an 'all or nothing' approach whilst claiming luv is offensive and continuing to criticise islam and immigration. You really struggle with the concept of hypocrisy lol.

[Kizzy]

Not everyone's interpretation of the meaning of 'racist' is correct. As already mentioned some are either over sensitive to criticism and see any criticism as 'racist' or some use such terminology to shut down discussion.

Your claim that anyone using that word is correct because it's definition is in the dictionary is ludicrous. Interpretation is key as is intent.

It has a definition at least, there is a comparison, you can cite a source with which to hold the statement to account.

With PC this is not the case, all we have is someones interpretation with no point of reference, therefore how can ANY accusations be correct?

It seems to me that the sensitivity comes when a mirror is held to certain statements and it's not attractive what is seen.

[Brillopad]

That time you fought for an 'all or nothing' approach whilst claiming luv is offensive and continuing to criticise islam and immigration. You really struggle with the concept of hypocrisy lol.

No, I was 'fighting' for the fact that some do find it offensive, and therefore can be constrewed as offensive just as any critiscm of Islam is considered so by many on here. You defend one whilst dismissing the other which is hypocritical. It isn't me struggling.

I wouldn't pass comment on 'sexist' comments from you if you weren't defending Islamic over-sensitivities whilst at the same time using the term 'luv'.

[Withano]

No, I was 'fighting' for the fact that some do find it offensive, and therefore can be constrewed as offensive just as any critiscm of Islam is considered so by many on here. You defend one whilst dismissing the other which is hypocritical. It isn't me struggling.

I wouldn't pass comment on 'sexist' comments from you if you weren't defending Islamic over-sensitivities whilst at the same time using the term 'luv'.

so I can call you luv if it isnt in response to an anti-islam post? Do you have an official 'valid breath of fresh air' rulebook, this is impossible to keep up with.

[Kizzy]

No, I was 'fighting' for the fact that some do find it offensive, and therefore can be constrewed as offensive just as any critiscm of Islam is considered so by many on here. You defend one whilst dismissing the other which is hypocritical. It isn't me struggling.

I wouldn't pass comment on 'sexist' comments from you if you weren't defending Islamic over-sensitivities whilst at the same time using the term 'luv'.

So you chose to be offended as you disagree with Withano and his views personally?

[user104658]

I object when it comes from those dishing out judgements in other threads. Give it take it. Speaks for itself.
OK so, as I've never claimed to have been "offended" by you, or anyone else here, or in fact anyone at all... Do I have permission to call you whatever I want? :think:

[Brillopad]

OK so, as I've never claimed to have been "offended" by you, or anyone else here, or in fact anyone at all... Do I have permission to call you whatever I want? :think:

I guess you do - but that would of course work both ways. Might end up getting us both infracted the way things are going - so I'm sure we can both rise above it.

Whose first? :hee:

[user104658]

I guess you do - but that would of course work both ways. Might end up getting us both infracted the way things are going - so I'm sure we can both rise above it.

Whose first? :hee:
Nah I get special treatment remember coz I'm a lefty liberal. I can say whatever and I never get infractions. You'll get infracted to oblivion if you so much as sneeze.

[Brillopad]

Nah I get special treatment remember coz I'm a lefty liberal. I can say whatever and I never get infractions. You'll get infracted to oblivion if you so much as sneeze.

You said it.

[Kizzy]

But don't you dare attempt any informal terms of endearment TS :fist: