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Cherie
14-05-2017, 11:11 AM
And before any bright spark says we are still paying in, in less than 2 years time we won't be, have any of the parties mentioned what will happen to it and where it will be directed once we are out, given their manifestos are 5 year plans? Seems to have been forgotten about :shrug: or swept under the carpet ...or are we going out at all....

Brillopad
14-05-2017, 11:55 AM
And before any bright spark says we are still paying in, in less than 2 years time we won't be, have any of the parties mentioned what will happen to it and where it will be directed once we are out, given their manifestos are 5 year plans? Seems to have been forgotten about :shrug: or swept under the carpet ...or are we going out at all....

We are going out - can you imagine the uproar if we didn't! Talk about election suicide - they would never be trusted again.

It needs to be something that they get challenged on - maybe not all 350, but a sizeable chunk of it.

Withano
14-05-2017, 11:56 AM
I'd imagine that we're just in debt in so many other places because of Brexit that we'll just throw it to wherever needs the money the most? Good question, I don't know the answer, I don't think anybody does?!

Cherie
14-05-2017, 12:03 PM
We are going out - can you imagine the uproar if we didn't! Talk about election suicide - they would never be trusted again.

It needs to be something that they get challenged on - maybe not all 350, but a sizeable chunk of it.

I probably didn't explain myself very well, but I think if we stay in the single market we would still have to pay in? that's what I mean about not going out, I know May has made noises about leaving it but I wonder if it will actually happen!

Cherie
14-05-2017, 12:13 PM
I'd imagine that we're just in debt in so many other places because of Brexit that we'll just throw it to wherever needs the money the most? Good question, I don't know the answer, I don't think anybody does?!

It should be in every party manifesto, if they don't know we are all doomed!

Kizzy
14-05-2017, 12:13 PM
Nukes, if the tories stay in it will be nukes.

Jack_
14-05-2017, 12:41 PM
The NHS to the tune of £350 million, duh. It woz on a big red bus fam.

user104658
14-05-2017, 01:09 PM
I thought it was pretty much general knowledge at this point? There won't be any extra money. Even the majority of Brexiteers have moved on to talking about other benefits of being out of Europe.

Any money that is "saved" by not being paid into the EU will be wiped out (and more) by losses in other areas. Even economic optimists know that. They would argue that it's short term and that increased autonomy will allow us to EVENTUALLY have more... But we're talking decades of reduced funds before that.

smudgie
14-05-2017, 01:20 PM
Hopefully to the farmers and others who depend on support from the EU at the moment.
I should think we will need a good few years of transition before we see much of anything changing.

the truth
14-05-2017, 01:56 PM
Hopefully to the farmers and others who depend on support from the EU at the moment.
I should think we will need a good few years of transition before we see much of anything changing.

lol they're all loaded

Kizzy
14-05-2017, 02:04 PM
Deffo not Wales...

Cherie
14-05-2017, 02:05 PM
The NHS to the tune of £350 million, duh. It woz on a big red bus fam.

I think we put that one to bed months ago

I thought it was pretty much general knowledge at this point? There won't be any extra money. Even the majority of Brexiteers have moved on to talking about other benefits of being out of Europe.

Any money that is "saved" by not being paid into the EU will be wiped out (and more) by losses in other areas. Even economic optimists know that. They would argue that it's short term and that increased autonomy will allow us to EVENTUALLY have more... But we're talking decades of reduced funds before that.


If this is the case why are more people making this point? its just seems to be something that is no longer mentioned..

Cherie
14-05-2017, 02:07 PM
lol they're all loaded

are dairy farmers loaded when supermarkets can sell 4 pints for a 1.00? how much do you think the farmer actually gets, the subsidies are what made the difference between making a living and not

Greg!
14-05-2017, 02:14 PM
There won't be any money saved, we're going to lose money

Withano
14-05-2017, 02:24 PM
are dairy farmers loaded when supermarkets can sell 4 pints for a 1.00? how much do you think the farmer actually gets, the subsidies are what made the difference between making a living and not

Apparently cows can produce 25 pints a day. Earning even 20p per pint should be an alright wage for a farmer with 10 cows - a lot would have more than 10 cows, and be earning money in other ways too, on top of that, they could sell their land tomorrow and sit on a small fortune.

I've always assumed they were doing alright, I've not researched any of this lol

joeysteele
14-05-2017, 02:39 PM
There won't be any money saved, we're going to lose money

That's what I conclude too.

UserSince2005
14-05-2017, 02:40 PM
Apparently cows can produce 25 pints a day. Earning even 20p per pint should be an alright wage for a farmer with 10 cows - a lot would have more than 10 cows, and be earning money in other ways too, on top of that, they could sell their land tomorrow and sit on a small fortune.

I've always assumed they were doing alright, I've not researched any of this lol

20p x 25 pints x 10 cows = £50 a day

lol

rolling it in.

Withano
14-05-2017, 02:43 PM
20p x 25 pints x 10 cows = £50 a day

lol

rolling it in.

Thats just for milk. Like one of many aspects of the job.

smudgie
14-05-2017, 02:45 PM
Thats just for milk. Like one of many aspects of the job.

Aye, and once you take the cost of feed and maintenance the poor farmers are struggling to make any kind of living.
Of course there will be some very well off farmers, but I hate to think how many are struggling.

Marsh.
14-05-2017, 02:55 PM
Into one of the other many blackholes of debt I would imagine.

Brillopad
14-05-2017, 03:00 PM
Into one of the other many blackholes of debt I would imagine.

Like Corbyn's manifesto pledges on all that borrowing.

Marsh.
14-05-2017, 03:03 PM
Like Corbyn's manifesto pledges on all that borrowing.

Yawn.

Brillopad
14-05-2017, 03:05 PM
Into one of the other many blackholes of debt I would imagine.

Yawn.

Marsh.
14-05-2017, 03:05 PM
Like Corbyn's manifesto pledges on all that borrowing.

Yawn.

Bless.

Beso
14-05-2017, 03:09 PM
A vast majority will be paid to silence tony blair

Brillopad
14-05-2017, 03:14 PM
A vast majority will be paid to silence tony blair

No one cares what he thinks any more. He's a pariah.

Withano
14-05-2017, 03:16 PM
Aye, and once you take the cost of feed and maintenance the poor farmers are struggling to make any kind of living.
Of course there will be some very well off farmers, but I hate to think how many are struggling.

Yeh, I was thinking about it after I left the thread.. I've only met two farming families, and they were both well off, but I think I just filled the gaps in and applied it to everybody. Probably a mixture of both and a lot inbetween yeah.

Beso
14-05-2017, 03:20 PM
No one cares what he thinks any more. He's a pariah.

Its not what he thinks, its what he knows.:nono:

Brillopad
14-05-2017, 03:24 PM
Its not what he thinks, its what he knows.:nono:

Such as.

waterhog
14-05-2017, 03:29 PM
And before any bright spark says we are still paying in, in less than 2 years time we won't be, have any of the parties mentioned what will happen to it and where it will be directed once we are out, given their manifestos are 5 year plans? Seems to have been forgotten about :shrug: or swept under the carpet ...or are we going out at all....

they are setting up a poetry program to go in every village in the country - I can not wait :shrug:

Denver
14-05-2017, 04:09 PM
If they have any sense they will plow it into Eurovision :idc: