SkyNewsHD/Ch4HD 29th May 8:30PM PM/Corbyn (not together)

[arista]

J. Paxman is back.

No Kay Burley this time, at last.I hope...
Its Political Editor Faisal Islam
with the Live audience.


http://news.sky.com/story/sky-news-to-host-theresa-may-and-jeremy-corbyn-in-live-tv-special-10879096

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[Kizzy]

What a load of shiz... same old same old, last time he was fawning all over Cameron like he'd just popped round for tea and sneering at milliband.

[arista]

On tonight Live
Ch4HD
SkynewsHD


8:30PM - 10PM

[arista]

Its also Live on LBC radio
http://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/elections/general-election-2017/

Jeremy Corbyn is going first

[Kizzy]

Oh dammit was going to have an early night too :/

[Jack_]

ffs was hoping she'd go first, she gets to respond to what he's said now and not vice versa

[Cherie]

Theresa May for Britain, will she be taking all seats in the cabinet :joker:

[arista]

ffs was hoping she'd go first, she gets to respond to what he's said now and not vice versa

I just want Paxman
to stop her repeating fecking slogans
at time she is a robot like
at least its live
she can not escape this

[Kizzy]

I'm praying she falls on her arse!!! Literally praying... He better not go soft on her that effing shill!

[arista]

I'm praying she falls on her arse!!! Literally praying... He better not go soft on her that effing shill!

No Paxman (working for Ch4News)
will go HARD on her
(thats why this is the best one of the lot)
she will get all tense , again.


On Friday same type of set up
PM and Corbyn, one at a time.
a Leaders Special of Question time BBC1 8:30PM - 10PM

[Kizzy]

I hope it's not full of tory activists like the Q&A in Leeds in 2015 was for Milliband .

[arista]

I hope it's not full of tory activists like the Q&A in Leeds in 2015 was for Milliband .


The Studio makes sure its a mixture
Labour voters
Conservative voters
And the very important Undecided

[arista]

The PM has now arrived
at the Studio greeted by the Head of skynews and Ch4

[waterhog]

just set tape for it now - going to scrutinise it tonight but I am sure it will be waffle after waffle :fist:

[Jack_]

I just want Paxman
to stop her repeating fecking slogans
at time she is a robot like
at least its live
she can not escape this

Any chance you'll be voting for Jezza arista? ;) you did support his leadership bid after all

[Greg!]

PRAYING Theresa has a complete and utter disaster :fc:

[waterhog]

PRAYING Theresa has a complete and utter disaster :fc:

just biggining - jezza has a new suit ? :shrug:

[arista]

Live Now

[Kizzy]

Omg jez is on FIRE!! :D

[Withano]

Takes the piss that theyre not together though haha.

[RichardG]

i've never been the biggest corbyn fan but he's really embarrassing paxman here, what a terrible interviewer

[RichardG]

these are completely ridiculous questions

[Wizard.]

Corbyn the flop flops again

[MB.]

Corbyn the flop flops again

Not sure how you can measure him 'flopping' when he's been allowed by Paxman to answer a grand total of half a question

[Brother Leon]

Paxman trying his hardest to fish for something and failing :laugh:


Show would have been great if he shut up more and let the audience ask more questions.

[Withano]

I've always hated Paxman. Mostly because of how condescending he is on University Challenge... its great to see him be put firmly back on the ground again

[Shaun]

There was some question-dodging but some pretty dumb questions too. Even Mr. UKIP Tory Tory? UKIP thinks so.

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A fairly successful broadcast for Corbyn.

[joeysteele]

Actually after one of Paxman's worst series of questions ever I think,Corbyn has come across rather well.
If I wasn't already a Labour supporter,he would have gone some way to winning me over.

[Wizard.]

Not sure how you can measure him 'flopping' when he's been allowed by Paxman to answer a grand total of half a question

It's funny how when it comes to Corbyn it's always the interviewer or the medias fault "Oh Andrew Neil is being so harsh" "Paxman won't let him finish a question" he even twists it's into his answers with "well you decided to bring up the question" to show his fans this narrative of everyone against him but at least now he can't blame the audience members for asking questions because it doesn't fit into his story of the evil BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Sky News and anyone who tries to hold the leader of the opposition and potential Prime Minister to account.

[Kizzy]

Knew paxman would be a total **** ... let's see how he is with may.

If there's no questions on schools meals the dementia tax and the police it's a fix

[Wizard.]

Knew paxman would be a total **** ... let's see how he is with may.

If there's no questions on schools meals the dementia tax and the police it's a fix

Wait so if Paxman is just as bad on Theresa you're actually going to say he's not being nice or is that acceptable?

[Kizzy]

Wait so if Paxman is just as bad on Theresa you're actually going to say he's not being nice or is that acceptable?

If he's the same then he's at least being fair

[Shaun]

I always thought England did get a winter fuel allowance. Or is it based on income in England but universal in Scotland?

[Greg!]

Corbyn did quite well but he should have answered a lot of the questions better, especially one about the falklands and the one about drone strikes.

[Kizzy]

We are GOING to this and that.... WHAT?!!

The election is in just over a week! why haven't these consultations and meeting with people and charities been done and put into the manifesto?

SHE IS LYING

[reece(:]

Jezza CLOCKED Paxman!

[reece(:]

Tula always stumbling with her words :joker:

[Greg!]

Tez is having a nightmare

[Kizzy]

Waffle... nonsensical waffle.

[reece(:]

Paxman will crumble Tula's dusty wig

[Greg!]

Paxman is a massive Tory so I doubt it

[MTVN]

She's not very good at this really but at least she's a credible politician so the questions were all about current policy, she doesn't have 30 years of association with terrorists hanging around her neck like Corbyn does

[smudgie]

She's not very good at this really but at least she's a credible politician so the questions were all about current policy, she doesn't have 30 years of association with terrorists hanging around her neck like Corbyn does

Yes, I thought Corbyn came across speaking well and determined, just couldn't believe most of what he said.
Theresa May is not the best at speaking in public, but she tells it as she thinks it, even if she knows we won't like the answers.

[Greg!]

This is a crap line of questioning

[reece(:]

Theresa changing her mind more than Jessie J does with ha sexuality?

[Kazanne]

Yes, I thought Corbyn came across speaking well and determined, just couldn't believe most of what he said.
Theresa May is not the best at speaking in public, but she tells it as she thinks it, even if she knows we won't like the answers.

Yes,that is why I lean towards her,she doesn't curry favour for votes.

[smudgie]

Theresa changing her mind more than Jessie J does with ha sexuality?

Please don't mention Theresa May and sex in the same sentence Reece, I will have nightmares now:joker:

[joeysteele]

We are GOING to this and that.... WHAT?!!

The election is in just over a week! why haven't these consultations and meeting with people and charities been done and put into the manifesto?

SHE IS LYING


Lying is the one thing she does to perfection.
How anyone believes a word she says is beyond all my understanding.

[smudgie]

I think if they make cap the same as the benefit cap it should make things easy enough.:shrug:

[Greg!]

Oop she's getting dragged

[Brillopad]

Yes,that is why I lean towards her,she doesn't curry favour for votes.

I agree - I appreciate some honesty even if I don't like what I hear.

I do think Corbyn is saying what he knows many want to hear.

Words come cheap. Actions don't.

[Kizzy]

Hang on shes parroting corbyn now haha!

[Kazanne]

I agree - I appreciate some honesty even if I don't like what I hear.

I do think Corbyn is saying what he knows many want to hear.

Words come cheap. Actions don't.

:dance:

[smudgie]

You tell him Theresa, he obviously doesn't understand the answer.:joker:

[reece(:]

She's like a robot, with these vague catchphrases like "No deal is better than a bad deal"
:sleep:

[Brother Leon]

She's like a robot, with these vague catchphrases like "No deal is better than a bad deal"
:sleep:

Absolutely no substance to what she says.

[Kizzy]

Is he stalling for her?... He's asked the same effing question 4 times. He had her on the ropes he could have finished her off with the right question :/

[Greg!]

Cringe at that one man giving her a standing ovation

[reece(:]

Cringe at that one man giving her a standing ovation

Tragiqué

[MTVN]

Funny that Paxman grilled May about changing her mind on Brexit but didn't query why Corbyn opposed the EU and then supported Remain and now supports Leave :think:

[Brillopad]

Cringe at that one man giving her a standing ovation

They are not auditioning for the x-factor. Different type of audience. Standing ovations not required.

[joeysteele]

Absolutely no substance to what she says.

Nothing at all.

She called this election,she has a manifesto extremely short on details.
She cannot give the level of cap for her policies, voters just have to give her a book of blank cheques.

She gave no real detail at all.
...and people admire that deceit and taking voters for fools.
Absolutely unbelievable.
She is the worst candidate ever for PM ever in my view from any Party,even Lib Dem.

Her word means nothing at all, all she stands for and supports are totally abhorrent in my view.

[arista]

She's like a robot, with these vague catchphrases like "No deal is better than a bad deal"
:sleep:

yes

[Tom4784]

Yes, I thought Corbyn came across speaking well and determined, just couldn't believe most of what he said.
Theresa May is not the best at speaking in public, but she tells it as she thinks it, even if she knows we won't like the answers.

She didn't say anything though. It was literally all catchphrases platitudes and desperate attempts to avoid questions.

Corbyn pretty much crushed it, he gave detailed responses, he backed up what he was saying. Look at the question about the EU deal, Corbyn could tell us exactly what he wanted from a deal and he committed to getting that deal but May refused to be anything other than vague and non-committal.

She said nothing of substance.

[Greg!]

They are not auditioning for the x-factor. Different type of audience. Standing ovations not required.

I know

[smudgie]

They are not auditioning for the x-factor. Different type of audience. Standing ovations not required.

She was applauded well at the end of her interview with Paxman, she done well.
I am pleased she got the same grilling as Corbyn, no room for talk of favouritism.

[Brillopad]

Funny that Paxman grilled May about changing her mind on Brexit but didn't query why Corbyn opposed the EU and then supported Remain and now supports Leave :think:

Interesting point.

[Brother Leon]

You know Corbyn slayed it when even the twat admits it.

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[Tom4784]

I agree - I appreciate some honesty even if I don't like what I hear.

I do think Corbyn is saying what he knows many want to hear.

Words come cheap. Actions don't.

The only actions you get from May are u-turns.

[Kizzy]

I agree - I appreciate some honesty even if I don't like what I hear.

I do think Corbyn is saying what he knows many want to hear.

Words come cheap. Actions don't.

And all we have from may is 'gonna' we;re gonna write a green paper, talk to peopl and charities.... Why has she not done it so it can go in the manifesto?

Nothing about foodbanks, nothing about NHS waiting times nothing about housing. She was given a VERY easy ride.

[smudgie]

She didn't say anything though. It was literally all catchphrases platitudes and desperate attempts to avoid questions.

Corbyn pretty much crushed it, he gave detailed responses, he backed up what he was saying. Look at the question about the EU deal, Corbyn could tell us exactly what he wanted from a deal and he committed to getting that deal but May refused to be anything other than vague and non-committal.

She said nothing of substance.

She can hardly stand up and give details of what she would accept in a deal with the EU.
She has to leave room for negotiation, Corbyn doesn't have to worry about that....unless he wins on June 8th, then he better get his skates on with only 11 days before the negotiations start.

[Tom4784]

I do think it's time for Paxman to step aside though, in both sessions he came across as self serving to the image of him being a hard interviewer rather than trying to get good answers out of either of them.

He was justfied in some of his questioning to both parties but I also think he was quite unfair with both of them. Sometimes he just needs to let them talk and then issue the follow up question when they've said what they want to say.

[Brother Leon]

Not sure how anyone can see what May has done this whole campaign and think "Yep, she's strong and stable. We need her for those Brexit negotiations indeed".

[smudgie]

I do think it's time for Paxman to step aside though, in both sessions he came across as self serving to the image of him being a hard interviewer rather than trying to get good answers out of either of them.

He was justfied in some of his questioning to both parties but I also think he was quite unfair with both of them. Sometimes he just needs to let them talk and then issue the follow up question when they've said what they want to say.

Hubby has just more or less said the same thing.
He was pretty useless in his questioning and the way he went about it.

[Tom4784]

She can hardly stand up and give details of what she would accept in a deal with the EU.
She has to leave room for negotiation, Corbyn doesn't have to worry about that....unless he wins on June 8th, then he better get his skates on with only 11 days before the negotiations start.

Corbyn did exactly that, Theresa didn't do so because she knows she's gonna fold to the EU and she doesn't want to commit to saying that she wouldn't accept a deal because she knows she will no matter what. 'No deal is better than a bad deal' is just a catchphrase and a non-committal one at that.

[Tom4784]

Not sure how anyone can see what May has done his whole campaign and think "Yep, she's strong and stable. We need her for those Brexit negotiations indeed".

It just goes to show that biased headlines and meaningless catchphrases go a long way with the public.

[Brillopad]

She was applauded well at the end of her interview with Paxman, she done well.
I am pleased she got the same grilling as Corbyn, no room for talk of favouritism.

Agreed, a bit uncomfortable at times as she isn't the best natural on-the spot orator, but she held her ground and gave some decent explanations as to why she couldn't give definitive figures in certain areas i.e. the £350bn for the NHS - which made sense.

[rusticgal]

Corbyn has had a personality transplant over the last few weeks...he plays footie with children (although failed miserably)...he cuddles babies (albeit looking hugely out of his comfort zone)...he has had a good wash and scrubbed up well...and he has even succumbed to answering people he really doesn't want to talk to (Jeremy Paxman)...and even tried hard at being nice and likeable..all with a gritted smile on his face.
....believable??? NOT!!!

[Brillopad]

Corbyn has had a personality transplant over the last few weeks...he plays footie with children (although failed miserably)...he cuddles babies (albeit looking hugely out of his comfort zone)...he has had a good wash and scrubbed up well...and he has even succumbed to answering people he really doesn't want to talk to (Jeremy Paxman)...and even tried hard at being nice and likeable..all with a gritted smile on his face.
....believable??? NOT!!!

He is trying too hard to be tough and it is unconvincing - only those desperate to believe actually believe I think.

[Wizard.]

David Cameron wasn't the best at these things either, went red in the face and couldn't answer questions directly but when placed next to Ed Miliband he won every time.

Is Jeremy tuss enuff? Of course he's not tuss enuff

[DemolitionRed]

Cringe at that one man giving her a standing ovation

Yes, but he sat down quickly when he noticed he was the only one.

[DemolitionRed]

The best part for me was when May tried telling us that Labours sums don't add up and the audience started heckling her.

All in all it was a good QT though. Both of them had an equal battle to answer questions for Paxman. What an egotistical git that man is.

[joeysteele]

Yes, but he sat down quickly when he noticed he was the only one.

:::joker:Didn't he just,he looked ridiculous.

[Alf]

What are Labour doing with this fruitcake as their leader?

May is awful, and she's gonna win by landslide.

I think someone like Hilary Benn, needs to take over, when Corbyn gets trounced.

[Northern Monkey]

Dam i missed this.Been out on the lash all day.Have to catch up tonight.

[Ronald.]

Really enjoyed this last night. Thought both leaders put up a good fight against the awful pax man. Honestly he is very bad and I have never liked him. Corbyn edged it I think, on the basis that 'less was expected from him'. I don't think those interviews will have had much effect though. R.

[the truth]

Corbyn was up and down, I like his idea to renationalise the utilities and the trains...though that was barely touched on, paxman was all over the map, babbling on about monarchy ? get a grip and even trident has been done to death...apart from the korean man child no one wants to fire a nuke, move on... paxman was crap on those issues, though he was good to go after mcdonnell wanting to dismantle mI5 ...corbyn was strangely ruffled and evasive on that....

His stance on europe will of course be his downfall, but he made a valid point about uk becoming a tax haven...sadly he ducked the question on how much we should pay the EU for leaving their basket case coporate club...shame corbyn bottled even guessing a migration target and bottled answering whether there is a benefit freeze... and the other ...his endless demands to raise the living wage for unskilled workers is a bit mental tbh it will lose 100s of thousands of jobs. ..he was weak on the falklands questions imo...thatcher did make a meal out of it to win votes but the united nations negotiated solution was mealy mouthed nonsense, the argies invaded british territory, thats war...he sounded flakey on hamas too and the ira....though the fact a peace was found in ireland does show the end goal was at least achieved. I also found the way he mentioned the manchester horrors by saying how evil it was to kill women and girls....why seperate the female victims from the male ones? sounded a really crass reach out to female votes

May wasnt too impresive either . yea shes smart and experienced...she claims to be strong and stable, but her many flip flops have eroded confidence...she basically didnt answer how and why shes changed her opinion on brexit...in fact I cant remember any specific answers from her.....The fact as home sec, immigration was 100s of thousands over her predictions looked absurd, though at least the rise is falling if you get what I mean...Shes been allowed to coast and lets face it barely answer specific questions throughout....Endless repeated cliches. really pathetic tactic. be open and honest woman and tell us what the heck youve got planned

aA piss poor election campaign will see a low turnout at the polls. at the end of it all, everyone gets what they want, may gets a rich mans paradise, the economy will continue as it is, zillions of part time jobs, mediocre wages and massive profits at the top. Houses will remain unaffordable. Housing benefits will continue to be paid to tenants who steal it to spend on booze, fags and drugs. But panto villain paxman doesnt ask those specifics he asked about abolishing monarchy ffs...Theres more chance of corbyn flying to mars in a dustbin

Corbyn will be loved by young female students who will cry because santa corbyn hasnt been given the keys to the treasury and allow labour to bankrupt us all again.

[Brillopad]

The best part for me was when May tried telling us that Labours sums don't add up and the audience started heckling her.

All in all it was a good QT though. Both of them had an equal battle to answer questions for Paxman. What an egotistical git that man is.

Not untypical labour voter behaviour. :nono:

[Brillopad]

Really enjoyed this last night. Thought both leaders put up a good fight against the awful pax man. Honestly he is very bad and I have never liked him. Corbyn edged it I think, on the basis that 'less was expected from him'. I don't think those interviews will have had much effect though. R.

I agree with this. :hee:

[Withano]

Really enjoyed this last night. Thought both leaders put up a good fight against the awful pax man. Honestly he is very bad and I have never liked him. Corbyn edged it I think, on the basis that 'less was expected from him'. I don't think those interviews will have had much effect though. R.

Agree actually. They both exceeded expectations, and Paxman was such a dick

[Withano]

Not untypical labour voter behaviour. :nono:

Tories and undecideds were heckling too. It was a very silly thing for her to say, and loyaly to tories shouldnt make a person think otherwise

[joeysteele]

I agree with Owen Jones,then I always do anyway really.
When he said the audience was more laughing 'with' Corbyn while laughing 'at' Mrs May.

Really poor interviewing from Paxman though, to really compare you need mostly the same questions asked.

That only happened as to the Brexit issue,Corbyn gave far more insight to what are his aims as to that.
Again,deceitful,sidestepping May revealed really nothing at all as to hers.
It's doubtful to me that she has anything planned yet anyway in the first place, probably again,her word meaningless and just making things up as she goes along.

[Alf]

May said everything she needed to say. "No deal, is better than a bad deal" and she said it about six times, because Paxman didn't seem to get it.

Where as Corbyn said "I'm gonna be Merkels bitch".

[Northern Monkey]

Watched it and learned absolutely nothing.Seemed abit like a broken pencil........




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