Jeremy Corbyn uses Manchester for his own agenda

[Wizard.]

When national campaigning resumes tomorrow Jeremy Corbyn is set to make a speech about the attack and how Labour will not let things like that happen.

Disgusting vile trash.

[the truth]

hes gonna blame labours wars abroad

[Scarlett.]

So like this forum has been doing for the past few days then.

[Northern Monkey]

I think the voters need to know what Labour will do about this.
I can't see anything wrong with that.We need to know before we vote.

[Wizard.]

I think the voters need to know what Labour will do about this.
I can't see anything wrong with that.We need to know before we vote.

Yet Jeremy Corbyn ass lickers are sure Theresa May would be the one to exploit the attack but the pies on your face now

[the truth]

I think the voters need to know what Labour will do about this.
I can't see anything wrong with that.We need to know before we vote.

He will blame our foreign policy but he will not blame uncontrolled immigration, or open borders allowing terrorists to move back and forth

some will agree, some will disagree, some a bit of both
But that means he will lose

[Withano]

Should probably listen to it before drawing conclusions

Could be more of a tribute - type speech

Could be more of a 'think like me or else more terrorism' - type speech

One of these is okay

Edit: although the debate on whether its too soon is still open

[Kazanne]

No one can STOP them,if a terrorist wants to kill he will,nothing to do with politics, The UK does pretty well in stopping most of them,but some will always get through, Corbyn is talking through his arse as is anyone trying to blame other party leaders.

[Wizard.]

No one can STOP them,if a terrorist wants to kill he will,nothing to do with politics, The UK does pretty well in stopping most of them,but some will always get through, Corbyn is talking through his arse as is anyone trying to blame other party leaders.

Yes he's blaming austerity
An insult to the police force who couldn't have done a better job
No wonder Diane Abbott got booed by the Police Federation

[lewis111]

This is obviously the issue that is going to take over the election
We've seen how May has dealt with it and people need to know how Corbyn would deal with a situation like this

And as Withano said, we can't judge it until we've heard the speech

[lewis111]

Yes he's blaming austerity
An insult to the police force who couldn't have done a better job
No wonder Diane Abbott got booed by the Police Federation

Can you show me where Corbyn has blamed the police or even the Tories for this attack
Not coming for you just curious to see if he has

[Wizard.]

This is obviously the issue that is going to take over the election
We've seen how May has dealt with it and people need to know how Corbyn would deal with a situation like this

And as Withano said, we can't judge it until we've heard the speech

Okay let's wait to see if he does say what's been leaked so far, but if he does exploit his desperate attempt to get votes should backfire on the sad old man

[armand.kay]

I would like to hear how all the parties plan on dealing with this. Little girls were blown up at a pop concert and Labor are being vilified for putting forward a way of stopping it?

[Brother Leon]

Looks like it's someone else with the Agenda here..

[lewis111]

Okay let's wait to see if he does say what's been leaked so far, but if he does exploit his desperate attempt to get votes should backfire on the sad old man

If he critizes the emergency services or the Tories for things that they had no choice but to do then yes I'd agree it would be wrong
But if he just states what he would do in this situation without attacking what the conservatives have done I don't see an issue, as long as it's done in a respectful manner

[Wizard.]

Can you show me where Corbyn has blamed the police or even the Tories for this attack
Not coming for you just curious to see if he has

He will tomorrow apparently on the news

[Cherie]

Yet Jeremy Corbyn ass lickers are sure Theresa May would be the one to exploit the attack but the pies on your face now

It's not exploiting it to say how you plan to tackle it :shrug:

[Greg!]

Whoever wins the election will be in charge of security and the police so he's got a right to make a speech about it and criticise the the current government.
The hard facts are Theresa May cut 20,000 police officers and was warned that she'd have to put troops on the streets to protect the country. She ignored those warnings and now it's happened.

[armand.kay]

Imagine if when the campaign resumes they all just go back to discussing school dinners like nothing happened.

[Denver]

Labour is the reason why we have the terrorists in this country

[joeysteele]

I would like to hear how all the parties plan on dealing with this. Little girls were blown up at a pop concert and Labor are being vilified for putting forward a way of stopping it?

Exactly, we need to hear all their thinking now,we heard UKIPs today.
There has to be an issue of 20,000 less police officers and absolutely, the foreign policy as to the middle east,re Iraq,Libya and Syria too,also in my view does need taking into consideration as to longer term,reducing the fury felt against the UK.
Which in part will have contributed to these vile attacks.

Corbyn needs to spell out his thinking and highlight anything to help find any possible way to start to eradicate these attacks,if at all possible.

[Scarlett.]

hes gonna blame labours wars abroad

and so he should, they were illegal wars and they did cause a backlash against the west.

[the truth]

Labour is the reason why we have the terrorists in this country

true

[Marsh.]

Terrorist attacks happen

Politicians vying for control of the country comment on preventing attacks like these.


I am shocked. I didn't expect this.

[Brother Leon]

Labour is the reason why we have the terrorists in this country

Yeah. Nothing to do with Torrie and Obama governments funding and supporting ISIS and other "moderate rebels" initially. Both parties are to blame.

[Denver]

Yeah. Nothing to do with Torrie and Obama governments funding and supporting ISIS and other "moderate rebels" initially. Both parties are to blame.

Tony Blair was the first to invade Iraq when he had no business doing so

[Jarrod]

Terrorist attacks happen

Politicians vying for control of the country comment on preventing attacks like these.


I am shocked. I didn't expect this.

This.

[the truth]

Tony Blair was the first to invade Iraq when he had no business doing so

true

[Tregard]

Corbyn will say ‘Many experts, including professionals in our intelligence and security services, have pointed to the connections between wars our government has supported or fought in other countries and terrorism here at home.’ Suggesting that UK foreign policy bears responsibility for terrorist attacks here just days after a terrorist atrocity has killed so many children is, to put it mildly, controversial.

Now, Corbyn will add that ‘That assessment in no way reduces the guilt of those who attack our children. Those terrorists will forever be reviled and held to account for their actions.’

Not exactly "a speech about the attack and how Labour will not let things like that happen". It could go either way, depending on the surrounding context.

[rusticgal]

It's a cheap shot...Corbyn and his government won't make any difference. I think our intelligence services have prevented many planned attacks...but unfortunately these things will continue to happen despite our best efforts and no other party will be able to stop it...like I say it's a cheap shot.

[Mystic Mock]

It will be interesting to hear what he says as I'm not convinced that he'd do much better tbh.

[Jack_]

If you think Crosby hasn't been drafting up a plan to use this to the Conservative's advantage, you're completely naive. Things are about to get vary nasty, very quickly.

We'd all prefer this incident to not be politicised so soon, but it's going to be. And quite frankly Corbyn needs to define himself on this issue before his opposition define him, which is what happened to Miliband. I am absolutely terrified at what lies ahead if that disgusting woman is gifted a landslide majority, there is far too much to lose to just allow them to get away with setting the agenda here.

He's treading a fine line citing UK foreign policy, even if he is right. Should be focusing more on the cuts to policing under May's watch as home secretary, which, as we can see here, she was warned about:

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34875077

He needs to ask serious questions about why two people could report Abedi's penchant for extremism and nothing be done.

And, of course, point out that he was right all along:

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These clips need playing ad nauseam for the next two weeks. The tabloid press are about to unleash an all-out assault and it's imperative Labour are prepared for it.

[Kizzy]

Excellent post jack, thank you.
I just hope those sentiments are remembered on June 8th

[Beso]

I wont be surprised if hee appears in a buhrka.

[thesheriff443]

Both parties will use the terror attack as a platform as to why they should be in power.

Death from terrorist attacks in this country are few and far between but deaths due to underfunding in the nhs is happening ever single day.

[DemolitionRed]

Both parties will use the terror attack as a platform as to why they should be in power.

Death from terrorist attacks in this country are few and far between but deaths due to underfunding in the nhs is happening ever single day.

Its two weeks until the elections and we all want to know who's going to do what about the ongoing terrorism on our shores. Personally I think its crucial that the table is laid bare. What's going to be done, who's going to do it?

The right wing tabloid backers made it their mission to use this incident for Tory gain. UKIP made it clear very quickly about how they would handle things. Labours ideas were leaked but not yet officially out and yet its the Labour party who are getting hammered by people who's thinking skills don't go beyond 'us against them'. :shrug:

[Kazanne]

I would like to hear how all the parties plan on dealing with this. Little girls were blown up at a pop concert and Labor are being vilified for putting forward a way of stopping it?

No they are not,they are being vilified for trying to be the good guys and hinting Teresa May was the cause.

[DemolitionRed]

No they are not,they are being vilified for trying to be the good guys and hinting Teresa May was the cause.

He wants to put forward some pivotal political points; those points being, why, since the Tories took over have 19,000 police officers gone and the number of armed police halved? Nobody is saying Blair's NL didn't do the same thing. He's guilty of following Bush into Iraq whilst making police cuts here but the Tories jumped on NL policy and continued those cuts to the point of crippling our British police force.

He wants to point out, and so he should, that austerity was not about us all being in this together because when you have to cut a police force and emergency services down the middle, it doesn't work for the common good.

He's not justifying terrorism but he's linking terrorist acts with government policy and he's absolutey right to do that. The Green party, the Lib Dems and UKIP will do the same.

[DemolitionRed]

We shouldn't have troops on our streets. We should have more trained professionals working J's and trying to find terrorists. What's a soldier capable of? putting his life between me and a terrorist? I suggest that's too much to ask of him.

[Withano]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/25/jeremy-corbyn-links-foreign-policy-to-growing-terror-threat?CMP=fb_gu

“our foreign policy reduces rather than increases the threat to this country”.

“Many experts, including professionals in our intelligence and security services, have pointed to the connections between wars our government has supported or fought in other countries and terrorism here at home.

That assessment in no way reduces the guilt of those who attack our children. Those terrorists will forever be reviled and held to account for their actions. But an informed understanding of the causes of terrorism is an essential part of an effective response that will protect the security of our people that fights rather than fuels terrorism.”

[DemolitionRed]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/25/jeremy-corbyn-links-foreign-policy-to-growing-terror-threat?CMP=fb_gu

I like Tim Farron but that comment was stupid. We have two weeks until an election that could change our country for the better and in those two weeks, the right wing press are using this atrocity for their own political gain but Corbyn's not allowed to speak? Tim Farron can go take a running jump.

[thesheriff443]

Nothing is really going to change regardless of who is elected.
Terrorist are not going to stop trying to kill people for what they believe in.
What will happen is if idiots keep up the anti muslim crap it will push normal Muslims towards extremists.

[Withano]

I like Tim Farron but that comment was stupid. We have two weeks until an election that could change our country for the better and in those two weeks, the right wing press are using this atrocity for their own political gain but Corbyn's not allowed to speak? Tim Farron can go take a running jump.

I've gotta admit, I was concerned it was too soon... but I think it was Jack that said he needs to define his stance before other parties defines it for him, which is a good point... you can't ignore it forever, every leader needs to make a formal statement eventually... but the debate on whether today is too soon is open imo.

[Withano]

Nothing is really going to change regardless of who is elected.
Terrorist are not going to stop trying to kill people for what they believe in.
What will happen is if idiots keep up the anti muslim crap it will push normal Muslims towards extremists.

In the short term no, but perhaps if we stay out of wars for a generation? Very possibly.

[joeysteele]

If you think Crosby hasn't been drafting up a plan to use this to the Conservative's advantage, you're completely naive. Things are about to get vary nasty, very quickly.

We'd all prefer this incident to not be politicised so soon, but it's going to be. And quite frankly Corbyn needs to define himself on this issue before his opposition define him, which is what happened to Miliband. I am absolutely terrified at what lies ahead if that disgusting woman is gifted a landslide majority, there is far too much to lose to just allow them to get away with setting the agenda here.

He's treading a fine line citing UK foreign policy, even if he is right. Should be focusing more on the cuts to policing under May's watch as home secretary, which, as we can see here, she was warned about:

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34875077

He needs to ask serious questions about why two people could report Abedi's penchant for extremism and nothing be done.

And, of course, point out that he was right all along:

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These clips need playing ad nauseam for the next two weeks. The tabloid press are about to unleash an all-out assault and it's imperative Labour are prepared for it.


Brilliant post again.

This woman has made catastrophic decisions all through her over 6 years as home Secretary.
Which you highlighted in your post.

I agree with Corbyn and timing is always hard to get right by anyone,the timing however of actually calling a general election after the Westminster attack,should set off alarm bells as to this extreme woman's obsession with her own authority.

What happens during said election periods that affect lives and bring about loss of lives,is vital for to then hear Parties hopes to begin to deal with same.
Also what they see as a cause to them.
How they too would look to not ignite and fuel further more vile attacks.

[Denver]

In the short term no, but perhaps if we stay out of wars for a generation? Very possibly.

The damage has been done by labour they created this message and it is here to stay

[King Gizzard]

If you think Crosby hasn't been drafting up a plan to use this to the Conservative's advantage, you're completely naive. Things are about to get vary nasty, very quickly.

We'd all prefer this incident to not be politicised so soon, but it's going to be. And quite frankly Corbyn needs to define himself on this issue before his opposition define him, which is what happened to Miliband. I am absolutely terrified at what lies ahead if that disgusting woman is gifted a landslide majority, there is far too much to lose to just allow them to get away with setting the agenda here.

He's treading a fine line citing UK foreign policy, even if he is right. Should be focusing more on the cuts to policing under May's watch as home secretary, which, as we can see here, she was warned about:

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34875077

He needs to ask serious questions about why two people could report Abedi's penchant for extremism and nothing be done.

And, of course, point out that he was right all along:

867359245393592320

These clips need playing ad nauseam for the next two weeks. The tabloid press are about to unleash an all-out assault and it's imperative Labour are prepared for it.

:clap1::clap1:

Although on your last point the S*n and that other rag the Mail have tried their best with the smear campaign and Jeremy's just brushed it off and they're still making gains so I honestly don't think it has an effect anymore

[Withano]

The damage has been done by labour they created this message and it is here to stay

Nobody can possibly know that. All parties have to put forward ideas that can contibute towards minimising and reversing the damage that Blair done. To me; Corbyns idea seems feasible, whilst May's idea seems more in line with Blairs.

You can carry on linking parties if you honestly think that's wise, I'll link policies.

[DemolitionRed]

Nobody can possibly know that. All parties have to put forward ideas that can contibute towards minimising and reversing the damage that Blair done. To me; Corbyns idea seems feasible, whilst May's idea seems more in line with Blairs.

You can carry on linking parties if you honestly think that's wise, I'll link policies.

Very true. How can people vote for May when they despise Blair. Two eggs out of the same basket.

[thesheriff443]

In the short term no, but perhaps if we stay out of wars for a generation? Very possibly.

These wars have been going on since the crusades when the Christians tryed to take back Jerusalem.

[Northern Monkey]

There were things in this speech that i agree with however they were things that everyone will agree with.

Now what i disagree with about his speech are firstly -
"The war on terror is'nt working"
well it is working.ISIS are being diminished in Iraq and if we weren't there they'd be much bigger and in control of much more territory.
We can't just let them get on with it.
Yes our interventions in Iraq and Lybia are fueling the narrative however that narrative would still be there had we not gone in.Just possibly under another banner.It is ingrained in deep rooted religious and cultural ideas.These are tribal ideological anti western value religious maniacs.They would still be doing this stuff!
He'd pull our airforce out leaving the Iraqi army screwed and we'd still be getting attacked!

What i also disagree with is that there was absolutely no mention of Islamism.He mentioned that our past interventions are fuelling this fair enough but no specific mention of the ideology behind the whole thing.This is an Islamic problem but he won't say it.He needs to admit this or it looks as though he's just blaming the west.
Islamism IS the root cause.

[Gusto Brunt]

When national campaigning resumes tomorrow Jeremy Corbyn is set to make a speech about the attack and how Labour will not let things like that happen.

Disgusting vile trash.

Vile trash to speak the truth.:shrug:

[LukeB]

If you think Crosby hasn't been drafting up a plan to use this to the Conservative's advantage, you're completely naive. Things are about to get vary nasty, very quickly.

We'd all prefer this incident to not be politicised so soon, but it's going to be. And quite frankly Corbyn needs to define himself on this issue before his opposition define him, which is what happened to Miliband. I am absolutely terrified at what lies ahead if that disgusting woman is gifted a landslide majority, there is far too much to lose to just allow them to get away with setting the agenda here.

He's treading a fine line citing UK foreign policy, even if he is right. Should be focusing more on the cuts to policing under May's watch as home secretary, which, as we can see here, she was warned about:

867497144420380673

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34875077

He needs to ask serious questions about why two people could report Abedi's penchant for extremism and nothing be done.

And, of course, point out that he was right all along:

867359245393592320

These clips need playing ad nauseam for the next two weeks. The tabloid press are about to unleash an all-out assault and it's imperative Labour are prepared for it.

A great post :clap1:

[Mystic Mock]

Vile trash to speak the truth.:shrug:

Exactly, people are getting way too precious about this Manchester thing that it's just getting silly now.

Some people would just have it that May's a saint and that no other party is allowed to challenge her over her handling of the situation, it's really stupid, it really is.

[AnnieK]

Exactly, people are getting way too precious about this Manchester thing that it's just getting silly now.

Some people would just have it that May's a saint and that no other party is allowed to challenge her over her handling of the situation, it's really stupid, it really is.

"This Manchester thing" only happened 4 days ago, it is still raw for many people, me included that these young children perished at the hands of a terrorist. It is going to be raw for a LONG time....if people are precious they have every right to be.

I agree that these issues need to be spoken about, there will always be people who disagree with things that are said but to say people are being "precious" is pretty rough Mock.

[Mystic Mock]

"This Manchester thing" only happened 4 days ago, it is still raw for many people, me included that these young children perished at the hands of a terrorist. It is going to be raw for a LONG time....if people are precious they have every right to be.

I agree that these issues need to be spoken about, there will always be people who disagree with things that are said but to say people are being "precious" is pretty rough Mock.

I honestly don't care if it sounds rough, it's been incredibly annoying that you dare to say anything about how the situation could've been handled better and you get emotional responses like "it's too soon to talk about this" or "it's an agenda which is completely disrespectful to the victims" so what are people suppose to do? Just go around praising Theresa May for her people to actually know that this guy was in the country but just let him walk freely in the country? I like some other people want a solution as soon as possible, I don't know if May or Corbyn have the solution, or somebody else from another party for that matter, but I am sick and tired of people just wanting to think about the victims and not the solution.

Yes that may sound rough, and of course it's sad that a girl around my Niece's age fgs got killed in the attack, but we can't just harp on and on about the evil Jihadists if nobody wants a possible solution from if we have to an alternative source to Theresa May.

[AnnieK]

I honestly don't care if it sounds rough, it's been incredibly annoying that you dare to say anything about how the situation could've been handled better and you get emotional responses like "it's too soon to talk about this" or "it's an agenda which is completely disrespectful to the victims" so what are people suppose to do? Just go around praising Theresa May for her people to actually know that this guy was in the country but just let him walk freely in the country? I like some other people want a solution as soon as possible, I don't know if May or Corbyn have the solution, or somebody else from another party for that matter, but I am sick and tired of people just wanting to think about the victims and not the solution.

Yes that may sound rough, and of course it's sad that a girl around my Niece's age fgs got killed in the attack, but we can't just harp on and on about the evil Jihadists if nobody wants a possible solution from if we have to an alternative source to Theresa May.

I actually agree with what you are saying Mock but your choice of phrase is what riled me....maybe its because its Manchester and so too close to home for me to be rational and impartial but of course its too soon for some people to talk about it - the city is still in shock so god knows what people more closely affected are feeling.

[Rob!]

It's hardly unreasonable. It is forefront of everyone's minds - what is the next government going to do about terror? UKIP have done it too.

[Brother Leon]

He's unfortunately scared some voters away for sure, but he's not wrong. Our foreign policy has been a disaster for well over a decade now.

[James]

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This century's spiral of conflict was set off on September 11th 2001 when 3000 civilians were killed in America. Someone needs to remind him off that. Some people voting in this election won't even remember 9/11. What would his reason for the 9/11 attacks be? I suppose he'd say Vietnam or something like that.

After 9/11 America was never not going to go into Afghanistan. It would have happened even if Al Gore had won in the close 2000 election.

France opposed and took no part in the Iraq war in 2003, and yet still has been on the end of some of the worst terrorist attacks. The narrative the terrorists use in those cases is that France has been fighting IS. Does that mean to prevent further attacks countries have to leave IS alone to commit more genocide in Iraq?

In Libya there was already a civil war before Britain and France got involved, and in Syria we have specifically not gotten involved militarily - remember the vote in the Commons after the chemical weapons attack? and Syria is an on-going catastrophe.

[Kizzy]

This century's spiral of conflict was set off on September 11th 2001 when 3000 civilians were killed in America. Someone needs to remind him off that. Some people voting in this election won't even remember 9/11. What would his reason for the 9/11 attacks be? I suppose he'd say Vietnam or something like that.

After 9/11 America was never not going to go into Afghanistan. It would have happened even if Al Gore had won in the close 2000 election.

France opposed and took no part in the Iraq war in 2003, and yet still has been on the end of some of the worst terrorist attacks. The narrative the terrorists use in those cases is that France has been fighting IS. Does that mean to prevent further attacks countries have to leave IS alone to commit more genocide in Iraq?

In Libya there was already a civil war before Britain and France got involved, and in Syria we have specifically not gotten involved militarily - remember the vote in the Commons after the chemical weapons attack? and Syria is an on-going catastrophe.

Have you forgotten there was a war in the gulf in the 90s then?... :/

[joeysteele]

Corbyn stated truths,unwelcome ones to some possibly but nevertheless truths.
Ones that needed saying too if any UK govt. is ever going to seriously look at addressing long term this hatred and determination to attack the UK with terrorism.

It is way overdue that the UK should have been looking at resisting getting involved,left,right and centre as to Middle East Nations.
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I really doubt that realisation will ever come from Mrs May and her bunch.
The sad thing,attacks like this should bring the best ideas from those in all Parties as to ways forward.

May's dismissal the UKs intervention in Libya has any connection was ridiculous denial of the worst kind.
We should never have got involved in Libya at all.
All we did was build up the fires of hate.

Manchester is a shocking tragedy,it is devastating it happened.
Preparing only for more such attacks and not analysing all as to how to start looking for eradicating them altogether is at best short sighted and at worst gross incompetence.

[James]

Have you forgotten there was a war in the gulf in the 90s then?... :/

No, I haven't. It was caused because Saddam Hussein invaded Iraq.

I read that Bin Laden became motivated to attack Americans because Saudi Arabia allowed America to place military bases in the Kingdom, where the holiest sites of Islam are located.

But is it legitimate to point to all that, as reason that America should somehow have expected terrorism in the 90s, and also 9/11.

[Kizzy]

No, I haven't. It was caused because Saddam Hussein invaded Iraq.

I read that Bin Laden became motivated to attack Americans because Saudi Arabia allowed America to place military bases in the Kingdom, where the holiest sites of Islam are located.

But is it legitimate to point to all that, as reason that America should somehow have expected terrorism in the 90s, and also 9/11.

Following the destabilisation do you feel that they should have just forgotten about it all by 2001?.. No that was just the beginning.

[Mystic Mock]

I actually agree with what you are saying Mock but your choice of phrase is what riled me....maybe its because its Manchester and so too close to home for me to be rational and impartial but of course its too soon for some people to talk about it - the city is still in shock so god knows what people more closely affected are feeling.

Yeah maybe I was blunt saying precious, but I'm glad that you can see my point as that rant really is unlike me on a sensitive subject like this so I was feeling bad for the outburst.

[jaxie]

This century's spiral of conflict was set off on September 11th 2001 when 3000 civilians were killed in America. Someone needs to remind him off that. Some people voting in this election won't even remember 9/11. What would his reason for the 9/11 attacks be? I suppose he'd say Vietnam or something like that.

After 9/11 America was never not going to go into Afghanistan. It would have happened even if Al Gore had won in the close 2000 election.

France opposed and took no part in the Iraq war in 2003, and yet still has been on the end of some of the worst terrorist attacks. The narrative the terrorists use in those cases is that France has been fighting IS. Does that mean to prevent further attacks countries have to leave IS alone to commit more genocide in Iraq?

In Libya there was already a civil war before Britain and France got involved, and in Syria we have specifically not gotten involved militarily - remember the vote in the Commons after the chemical weapons attack? and Syria is an on-going catastrophe.

:clap1:

[Brother Leon]

66% on a YouGov poll agree on his view on foreign policy and terrorism. As is the case with most of his policies, the British Public agree on it. Unfortunately too many people can't get over he fact they've been told he's unelectable and want someone "strong and stable" that doesn't even know what she wants for Lunch.

[Brillopad]

66% on a YouGov poll agree on his view on foreign policy and terrorism. As is the case with most of his policies, the British Public agree on it. Unfortunately too many people can't get over he fact they've been told he's unelectable and want someone "strong and stable" that doesn't even know what she wants for Lunch.

His policies and figures remain unproven. So vote away on blind faith. Risky business. A lot of youngsters just think that will have more money and get free university tuition, but will they I wonder!

[Kizzy]

His policies and figures remain unproven. So vote away on blind faith. Risky business. A lot of youngsters just think that will have more money and get free university tuition, but will they I wonder!

We have no reason to suspect he won't go ahead he has throughout his career been a man of his word, may on the other hand... :/

[Brother Leon]

His policies and figures remain unproven. So vote away on blind faith. Risky business. A lot of youngsters just think that will have more money and get free university tuition, but will they I wonder!

I think based on his history and everything he has fought for his whole political career, youngsters can believe and trust in him way more than any other alternatives this country has.

[Withano]

Tory arguments are getting weaker by the day, I think even they understand theyre running out of ways to sabotage Labour / promote conservatives

[Tom4784]

66% on a YouGov poll agree on his view on foreign policy and terrorism. As is the case with most of his policies, the British Public agree on it. Unfortunately too many people can't get over he fact they've been told he's unelectable and want someone "strong and stable" that doesn't even know what she wants for Lunch.

Pretty much, headlines and catchphrases hold more sway with the voting public than any policy can ever hope to do so. It's why May will win despite the fact that this election has shown her up as dangerously incompetent time and time again but who cares about that? She's promising bloody vengeance against terrorism and she says Strong and Stable a lot!

[Brillopad]

Pretty much, headlines and catchphrases hold more sway with the voting public than any policy can ever hope to do so. It's why May will win despite the fact that this election has shown her up as dangerously incompetent time and time again but who cares about that? She's promising bloody vengeance against terrorism and she says Strong and Stable a lot!

I don't know, what may turn out to be false promises seem to be carrying a lot of weight for some.

Had to laugh though about her saying strong and stable a lot - that is true and I agree it's frustrating.

[JTM45]

No, I haven't. It was caused because Saddam Hussein invaded Iraq.


That's some Trump style facts there! :laugh:

Saddam Hussein was President of Iraq from 1979 to 2003.

Maybe you were thinking of Kuwait.

[James]

That's some Trump style facts there! :laugh:

Saddam Hussein was President of Iraq from 1979 to 2003.

Maybe you were thinking of Kuwait.

Oh right, I didn't even realise I typed Iraq instead of Kuwait until now, hah.