'Wonder Woman' women-only screenings cause fragile men to fume

[Tom4784]

"Wonder Woman" may be a feminist icon, but some male moviegoers aren't happy about some scheduled women-only screenings of the film.

The controversy began when the famous Alamo Drafthouse cinema in Austin, Texas, announced it would be hosting a screening of the new movie, which stars Gal Gadot as the superhero.
"Apologies, gentlemen, but we're embracing our girl power and saying 'No Guys Allowed' for one special night at the Alamo Ritz," the announcement read. "And when we say 'People Who Identify As Women Only,' we mean it. Everyone working at this screening -- venue staff, projectionist, and culinary team -- will be female."

That didn't go over well with some men, judging by the comments on the theater's Facebook page.
"Apparently 'equality' is only selective nowadays," one person wrote. "How about a 'men's only' showing of a movie or is that not how equality works?"
The Alamo responded to many of the negative comments, pointing out that they have hosted screenings for select groups before, including veterans for military films, and that it's about a celebration of the Wonder Woman character.

Gadot stars as Diana Prince/Wonder Woman, a DC comics character that first came on the scene in the 1940s. Since then, the character has been a superhero mainstay in comic books and had a small screen run in a 1970s series starring Lynda Carter.

The Alamo insists it is simply looking to celebrate the spirit of Wonder Woman and even doubled down by adding a screening to its New York location.
In a nod to another female empowerment pop culture moment, the Alamo advised the women of New York City to "get in formation" (à la Beyonce's famous song) if they wanted to snag tickets to that screening.
"Wonder Woman" hits theaters June 2.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/26/entertainment/wonder-woman-women-only/

Proceeds are apparently going to go to Planned Parenthood :clap1: Also they've responded to the criticism by adding more female only showings.

I think it's a fine idea, especially if it's for a charitable cause.

[Brother Leon]

Silly idea. Imagine if they made the Batman Trilogy a Men Only screening and donated it to Men's Mental Health charities or something like that. It would be stupid and beyond Sexist.

[Headie]

Legends :clap1:

[Niamh.]

Silly idea. Imagine if they made the Batman Trilogy a Men Only screening and donated it to Men's Mental Health charities or something like that. It would be stupid and beyond Sexist.

I agree.

[UserSince2005]

mess, since when was this acceptable.

Anyway if a tree falls in the woods, and there's no man around to see it, did it really happen?

[Shaun]

Really struggle to see the problem if there's other screenings of the film available.

Obviously just a "girl power" fad thing but if it's for charity then good on them.

[Ninastar]

Silly idea. Imagine if they made the Batman Trilogy a Men Only screening and donated it to Men's Mental Health charities or something like that. It would be stupid and beyond Sexist.

Agreed

[Tom4784]

Silly idea. Imagine if they made the Batman Trilogy a Men Only screening and donated it to Men's Mental Health charities or something like that. It would be stupid and beyond Sexist.

I don't think that's a good comparison though, Wonder Woman is a feminist icon and the film itself is female focused both in front and behind the camera, it makes sense to have a female only charity screening for it but a male screening wouldn't make much sense for Batman since he's a universal character in terms of appeal.

I wouldn't be against a male viewing if it was for charity like the WW screenings are though but I don't think Batman as an example is a very good one.

[Tom4784]

Really struggle to see the problem if there's other screenings of the film available.

Obviously just a "girl power" fad thing but if it's for charity then good on them.

You know when a kid has a top of the range toy but he cries because another kid has a poundland toy and they want it simply because the other kid has it? Yeah.

Meninist logic in a nutshell.

[Withano]

an -insert group- only activity seems tacky, but they won me over with 'charitable cause'

[Cherie]

Pointless and ridiculous, they could collect for charity at a mixed showing just as easily

[Shaun]

Pointless and ridiculous, they could collect for charity at a mixed showing just as easily

Where would the "event" part of that draw in donors, though? It's obviously just a one-off gimmick.

[Scarlett.]

Sounds a cool thing to do, it's not like they're restricting who sees the movie, complaining about this is like complaining that you weren't at the premiere screening of it.

[Cherie]

Where would the "event" part of that draw in donors, though? It's obviously just a one-off gimmick.

Opening night? If it were for a woman's refuge or sonething I could understand the all female audience, but Planned Parenthood... irony :laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Silly idea. Imagine if they made the Batman Trilogy a Men Only screening and donated it to Men's Mental Health charities or something like that. It would be stupid and beyond Sexist.

This.

[armand.kay]

Stupid idea but I dont actually care like if they want a tacky "girl power" screening let them :shrug:

[thesheriff443]

What will they come up with next!, all girl schools.

[Ronald.]

Where would the "event" part of that draw in donors, though? It's obviously just a one-off gimmick.

Our local pub has a ladies night where they collect money for breast cancer. Margaret goes along and says it always has a good turn out and its a great opportunity for the wives to get away from their husbands! I don't see anyone shouting at that being sexist. I think the trick is often how these kind of events are executed. I think we're in an age now where everyone wants to find something offensive about everything possible. It's raising money and the "women only screening" is as some members have stated 'a gimmic' and one which will work very well! R.

[user104658]

But half of the seats will be empty because there are hardly any women who actually like Superhero movies :think:.

[Ronald.]

Though I think the phrase 'cause fragile men to fume' is particularly provocative. Phrases like that aren't particularly useful or clever. R.

[Niamh.]

But half of the seats will be empty because there are hardly any women who actually like Superhero movies :think:.

Sexism! i'm glad you're banned from the movie now :hee:

[user104658]

Sexism! i'm glad you're banned from the movie now :hee:

Are you trying to tell me that you would have started watching DC / Marvel stuff if the male members of your family weren't into it? :suspect: I'm skeptical...

That said, my 7 year old daughter is adamant that she wants to see Wonder Woman :umm2:. I'm hesitant though because I would love it if she got into DC and Marvel -- BUT -- I'm not convinced that a World War One setting is the best starting point. It'll bore her and put her off forever :worry:.

[Niamh.]

Are you trying to tell me that you would have started watching DC / Marvel stuff if the male members of your family weren't into it? :suspect: I'm skeptical...

That said, my 7 year old daughter is adamant that she wants to see Wonder Woman :umm2:. I'm hesitant though because I would love it if she got into DC and Marvel -- BUT -- I'm not convinced that a World War One setting is the best starting point. It'll bore her and put her off forever :worry:.

I definitely would once Thor came out :smug:

But seriously I would have watched alot of them, not all of them but probably most of them they're some of the biggest movies every year and I watch a hell of a lot of movies, of all genres :shrug: have a look in the last film you watched thread and see who is the top poster in there :hee:

[user104658]

I would have watched alot of them, not all of them


#lightweight #notarealfan :hmph:

[Niamh.]

#lightweight #notarealfan :hmph:

Don't be jealous that I like movies more than you :hee:

[Tom4784]

Though I think the phrase 'cause fragile men to fume' is particularly provocative. Phrases like that aren't particularly useful or clever. R.

As a man, I'm allowed to point out how fragile men that get upset over charity showings are.

[Mystic Mock]

As a man, I'm allowed to point out how fragile men that get upset over charity showings are.

If it was the other way around we'd be hearing about this for a couple of weeks, and Newstations would be running with it like crazy, I think we all know that would be the case and I think that we all agree that would be wrong for any event to bar women from a universal event, so why is it okay to do it to men?

[Brother Leon]

I don't think that's a good comparison though, Wonder Woman is a feminist icon and the film itself is female focused both in front and behind the camera, it makes sense to have a female only charity screening for it but a male screening wouldn't make much sense for Batman since he's a universal character in terms of appeal.

I wouldn't be against a male viewing if it was for charity like the WW screenings are though but I don't think Batman as an example is a very good one.

Batman was the first example I thought of, but my point still stands tbh. Surely the rebirth of Wonderwoman is to make her a Mainstream superhero as a Female for everyone? Doing screenings like this just tells men and boys "Hey, this ain't for you and neither is Wonderwoman. Try Spider-Man in a couple weeks.". The girl power is cool and all, but it's silly and counterproductive as the film I'm sure will cover that enough as is.

[Scarlett.]

Are you trying to tell me that you would have started watching DC / Marvel stuff if the male members of your family weren't into it? :suspect: I'm skeptical...

That said, my 7 year old daughter is adamant that she wants to see Wonder Woman :umm2:. I'm hesitant though because I would love it if she got into DC and Marvel -- BUT -- I'm not convinced that a World War One setting is the best starting point. It'll bore her and put her off forever :worry:.

The DC movies havent had a track record of being amazing either

[Niamh.]

Batman was the first example I thought of, but my point still stands tbh. Surely the rebirth of Wonderwoman is to make her a Mainstream superhero as a Female for everyone? Doing screenings like this just tells men and boys "Hey, this ain't for you and neither is Wonderwoman. Try Spider-Man in a couple weeks.". The girl power is cool and all, but it's silly and counterproductive as the film I'm sure will cover that enough as is.

exactly, it's counter productive in a way to women superheros being seen as good as male ones imo My own son loves all these movies and he never sees it as oh she's a woman she's not as good which is great, i would hate for that to change

[user104658]

The DC movies havent had a track record of being amazing either

:hmph: I love BvS extended cut. I just... try really hard to ignore Jesse Eisenberg.

Though to be fair I don't even think he's a bad character - just a horrendous Lex Luthor :think:

[Alf]

"Fragile men":joker:

Wonder Woman needs to get back in the kitchen, where she belongs.:laugh:

[T*]

idk about this
I know it's for a good cause and everything but we need less segregation not more
like if it was for say batman or something and the showing was just for guys and for a male charity idk if it'd be as well received


it don't feel comfy

[T*]

oh someone already said what I said

[Niamh.]

idk about this
I know it's for a good cause and everything but we need less segregation not more
like if it was for say batman or something and the showing was just for guys and for a male charity idk if it'd be as well received


it don't feel comfy

Exactly, it encourages men to continue on with the casual sexism like Alfs post above yours and that's not really helpful in moving forward imo

[Alf]

Exactly, it encourages men to continue on with the casual sexism like Alfs post above yours and that's not really helpful in moving forward imoSorry, I thought it was a competition for who could be the most sexist, and I really like winning.

[Niamh.]

Sorry, I thought it was a competition for who could be the most sexist, and I really like winning.

I'm sure you do

[Tom4784]

The DC movies havent had a track record of being amazing either

BvS was a bit of a mess but I genuinely believe that if Suicide Squad was a Marvel film, it would have automatically been better received. It's flaws were pretty much the same as any Marvel film going but Marvel films get repeated free passes on their flaws.

[Tom4784]

Batman was the first example I thought of, but my point still stands tbh. Surely the rebirth of Wonderwoman is to make her a Mainstream superhero as a Female for everyone? Doing screenings like this just tells men and boys "Hey, this ain't for you and neither is Wonderwoman. Try Spider-Man in a couple weeks.". The girl power is cool and all, but it's silly and counterproductive as the film I'm sure will cover that enough as is.

I think you're looking into it too deeply. It's a charity women's only screening of a superhero film featuring a hero that's seen as a feminist icon. If any man looked at this story and thought that they were being excluded just because there was one female only showing at one branch of one cinema chain then I'd tell them to be less self entitled.

The world would not blink if they did the same thing for the latest Fast and the Furious for men because this story only got attention because the idea of feminism riles fragile people up.

[Tom4784]

If it was the other way around we'd be hearing about this for a couple of weeks, and Newstations would be running with it like crazy, I think we all know that would be the case and I think that we all agree that would be wrong for any event to bar women from a universal event, so why is it okay to do it to men?

If this was the other way around it wouldn't have been a news story.

[Niamh.]

If this was the other way around it wouldn't have been a news story.

I strongly disagree with that, it would have been much more of a story imo

[Tom4784]

I strongly disagree with that, it would have been much more of a story imo

Nah, there'd be no traction in the media for it. Had it been an actual case of discrimination then yes it would be but any attempts at making it an actual story would be shot down because it would ultimately be a charity event.

Stories about feminism will always get a lot of clicks and that's why the same wouldn't happen in reverse.

[Jamie89]

It reminds me a bit of when loads of people complained about the Yorkie 'it's not for girls' advert for being sexist :laugh: so yeah there'd probably be complaints as well if it was the other way around, but regardless I don't see the problem with this type of thing at all. Even if it is technically sexist, perspective is needed in that noone is actually disadvantaged or harmed by this in any way. The disadvantage is that men won't be able to watch a Wonder Woman movie at a specific time at a specific screening, so it's very weak to compare it to to issues relating to equal rights (like some of the facebook comments are). And actually, I think the reason they're doing it in the first place is as a marketing ploy because the majority of superhero/action movie audiences are male and the inherent sexism that still exists in Hollywood - so the sexism argument could go much deeper than this screening (this stunt only needing to exist because of the already prevalent sexism against women in the medium), and so it's a hard sell to have a movie in this genre with a female lead, so this is probably their way of trying to attract the attention of women in order to get more of them to see it, so if it works in that respect it's probably quite a clever move (and could also lead to more female orientated action movies and therefore less need for stunts like this in the first place).

[Tom4784]

It reminds me a bit of when loads of people complained about the Yorkie 'it's not for girls' advert for being sexist :laugh: so yeah there'd probably be complaints as well if it was the other way around, but regardless I don't see the problem with this type of thing at all. Even if it is technically sexist, perspective is needed in that noone is actually disadvantaged or harmed by this in any way. The disadvantage is that men won't be able to watch a Wonder Woman movie at a specific time at a specific screening, so it's very weak to compare it to to issues relating to equal rights (like some of the facebook comments are). And actually, I think the reason they're doing it in the first place is as a marketing ploy because the majority of superhero/action movie audiences are male and the inherent sexism that still exists in Hollywood - so the sexism argument could go much deeper than this screening (this stunt only needing to exist because of the already prevalent sexism against women in the medium), and so it's a hard sell to have a movie in this genre with a female lead, so this is probably their way of trying to attract the attention of women in order to get more of them to see it, so if it works in that respect it's probably quite a clever move (and could also lead to more female orientated action movies and therefore less need for stunts like this in the first place).

The Yorkie thing was a major ad campaign. Nobody would have known about this cinema doing a men's only viewing for charity because the only reason why this story got traction is because it's an opportunity for fragile people to rage over feminism.

[Shaun]

If this was the other way around it wouldn't have been a news story.

The idea of only men going to see a comic book movie? Surely not :shocked: