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arista
31-05-2017, 11:15 AM
No PM
its Amber Rudd
in her place.


Other leaders expected.


SkyNewsHD, at a Corbyn Rally
in Reading,
just reported
Jeremy Corbyn
is on this this debate
7:30PM - 9PM BBC1 HD
today

Withano
31-05-2017, 11:26 AM
Is it an actual debate. Like answering the same questions at the same time, and then explaining why their opponents answer is ****e.

Or a debate like having a one-way chat with Paxman?

Cos I'm only interested if its more like the former?

King Gizzard
31-05-2017, 11:27 AM
Coward Theresa in being a coward shocker.


Big Jez never backs out of a fight

Beso
31-05-2017, 11:39 AM
So jeremy, if the rich vote tory and poor vote labour....how can people say the countries in a mess when the tories have such a massive leed..surely that proves there are more rich than poor showing that actually the country and its citizens are doing very well!

Samm
31-05-2017, 11:40 AM
poor theresa

http://i.imgur.com/fo83ZLY.gif

King Gizzard
31-05-2017, 11:42 AM
So jeremy, if the rich vote tory and poor vote labour....how can people say the countries in a mess when the tories have such a massive leed..surely that proves there are more rich than poor showing that actually the country and its citizens are doing very well!


Latest YouGov poll has Labour down to 4% behind the Tories. You sure about that m8?

and as for that last sentence...well..no words :joker:

Cherie
31-05-2017, 11:48 AM
I don't believe the Polls they have been wrong too many times, its still a Tory win, but maybe not a landslide :fc:

King Gizzard
31-05-2017, 11:49 AM
It will end up being that way yeah, but not as big a margin as Tories seem to think

If there was another couple of weeks I think the swing would have gone the way of Labour. Voting system doesn't favour labour though

Cherie
31-05-2017, 11:51 AM
It will end up being that way yeah, but not as big a margin as Tories seem to think

If there was another couple of weeks I think the swing would have gone the way of Labour. Voting system doesn't favour labour though

Yeah its good to see the arrogance fading, will be funny if she ends up with less seats though, when she could have sat tight. :laugh:

MTVN
31-05-2017, 12:06 PM
Good news, means he has had to cancel his trip to Forest Green today :hee:

Beso
31-05-2017, 12:07 PM
Latest YouGov poll has Labour down to 4% behind the Tories. You sure about that m8?

and as for that last sentence...well..no words :joker:

We all know that the polls mean very little.

They predicted a hung parliament last time yet we all know how that went.

joeysteele
31-05-2017, 12:07 PM
Yeah its good to see the arrogance fading, will be funny if she ends up with less seats though, when she could have sat tight. :laugh:

That would be really great to see,absolutely for me.

Jack_
31-05-2017, 12:16 PM
It's great politics but a huge gamble. I thought the other leaders criticised him more than they did the PM in the last debate (annoying, given almost all of them would prefer a Labour coalition) so I fear he may become the prime target.

It also plays into their pathetic 'coalition of chaos' nonsense too. I can see the tweets being prepped now :rolleyes:

Denver
31-05-2017, 12:18 PM
Mutha T has better tings to be doing

Jack_
31-05-2017, 12:20 PM
Mutha T has better tings to be doing

Killing foxes?

Denver
31-05-2017, 12:21 PM
Running the country

LukeB
31-05-2017, 12:21 PM
Killing foxes?

And taking food from children

Denver
31-05-2017, 12:22 PM
She doesnt take food from children

Jack_
31-05-2017, 12:24 PM
Running away from the country

I see

Denver
31-05-2017, 12:24 PM
Real childish i see

joeysteele
31-05-2017, 12:27 PM
Well done and good luck to him.
Utterly pathetic of Mrs May to remain cowardly and keep away.

She'll be admired for it though unbelievably.

Loukas
31-05-2017, 12:31 PM
Has she stated why she's sending Amber Rudd to debate for her?

The prime minister is SENDING SOMEONE to DEBATE FOR HER :facepalm:

LukeB
31-05-2017, 12:32 PM
Has she stated why she's sending Amber Rudd to debate for her?

The prime minister is SENDING SOMEONE to DEBATE FOR HER :facepalm:

embarrassing :joker:

Greg!
31-05-2017, 12:36 PM
A bit of a mess that Nicky isn't going either tbh. But at least the SNP representative is technically a party leader.

Denver
31-05-2017, 12:38 PM
During the interview, a “Jeremy Corbyn from Islington” asked if Theresa May would appear in a live debate with him. She responded saying, “I don’t think people get much out of seeing politicians having a go at each other; I think people want to hear directly.”

She is right though

Brother Leon
31-05-2017, 01:14 PM
Must be a mistake. I'm sure our Strong and Stable leader is on too..

Jack_
31-05-2017, 01:15 PM
Real childish i see

Mutha T has better tings to be doing

Mutha T

tings

Stones in glass houses my friend

Beso
31-05-2017, 01:34 PM
Another labour u turn.....

Sure both parties agreed to no live debates.

Oh well.

arista
31-05-2017, 01:39 PM
Has she stated why she's sending Amber Rudd to debate for her?

The prime minister is SENDING SOMEONE to DEBATE FOR HER :facepalm:


Amber Rudd was booked last week
debated on BBC2HD D.P.

arista
31-05-2017, 01:40 PM
It would be good if the PM Turned up
I am sure Amber Rudd what sit back stage.

arista
31-05-2017, 01:42 PM
Must be a mistake. I'm sure our Strong and Stable leader is on too..


If she does not turn UP
she is WEAK and Unstable

arista
31-05-2017, 01:48 PM
poor theresa

http://i.imgur.com/fo83ZLY.gif


funny

Loukas
31-05-2017, 01:54 PM
Another labour u turn.....

Sure both parties agreed to no live debates.

Oh well.

both parties are still debating.. just our current 'strong and stable' leader is sending our Home Secretary instead.. The weak and wobbly witch!

joeysteele
31-05-2017, 02:04 PM
If she does not turn UP
she is WEAK and Unstable

She is for sure,you are right.

AnnieK
31-05-2017, 02:07 PM
It does seems ridiculous for TM to not be there. Not sure what kind of a message she thinks it will send but I suppose she said from the off she wouldn't do the live debates.

smudgie
31-05-2017, 02:09 PM
Has Corbyn just changed his mind, he wasn't originally doing the debate.:shrug:

DemolitionRed
31-05-2017, 02:27 PM
poor theresa

http://i.imgur.com/fo83ZLY.gif

I nearly spat my coffee :hehe:

DemolitionRed
31-05-2017, 02:33 PM
If she can't choose the questions and have her answers in readiness, she won't do it. Like I've said before, she can't give answers off the hoof but then neither can Corbyn, though he is getting better at it.

arista
31-05-2017, 02:39 PM
Has Corbyn just changed his mind, he wasn't originally doing the debate.:shrug:


Yes today at a Live rally
in Reading.

He said after that he is off to Cambridge to get ready
for this Live debate,

Beso
31-05-2017, 02:58 PM
Has Corbyn just changed his mind, he wasn't originally doing the debate.:shrug:


Strong and stable.

Alf
31-05-2017, 03:01 PM
She's busy running the Country. She's no time for a chat Mr Corbyn.

Brillopad
31-05-2017, 03:07 PM
If she can't choose the questions and have her answers in readiness, she won't do it. Like I've said before, she can't give answers off the hoof but then neither can Corbyn, though he is getting better at it.

From my experience those with the gift of the gab, the over-confident, are often less trustworthy - do we want bl**dy salesmen as PM now. Since when have gobby PM's such as Blair ever been 'quality' PMs and since when has the gift of the gab ruled over knowledge and intellect.

reece(:
31-05-2017, 03:18 PM
More cowardice from Tula.

Withano
31-05-2017, 04:02 PM
poor theresa

http://i.imgur.com/fo83ZLY.gif

:joker:

Brother Leon
31-05-2017, 04:28 PM
869906950443675649

"You need to focus on Brexit like I am. Forget the fact that I called a snap election in the middle of it"

Greg!
31-05-2017, 04:47 PM
She's busy running the Country. She's no time for a chat Mr Corbyn.

If she was that busy then why did she call an election.

Ross.
31-05-2017, 04:49 PM
poor theresa

http://i.imgur.com/fo83ZLY.gif

:joker:

Alf
31-05-2017, 04:54 PM
If she was that busy then why did she call an election.To give the country a chance to vote for who they want to negotiate us out of the EU.

She did explain why, during the Paxman interview.

Withano
31-05-2017, 04:56 PM
Its because she wanted a 2:1 majority in parliament, to go through with a hard brexit, no? Remember when that was feasible but then she ****ed it by making terrible policies at the same time as Labour making great ones :flutter:

Greg!
31-05-2017, 04:59 PM
To give the country a chance to vote for who they want to negotiate us out of the EU.

She did explain why, during the Paxman interview.

Wow you really believe that? It's because the tories were way ahead in the polls, she knew that Brexit will be a disaster and she wants to hold onto power for a few more years.

Brillopad
31-05-2017, 05:01 PM
Its because she wanted a 2:1 majority in parliament, to go through with a hard brexit, no? Remember when that was feasible but then she ****ed it by making terrible policies at the same time as Labour making great ones :flutter:

Corbyn and his Jackanory stories. :joker:

arista
31-05-2017, 05:32 PM
869906950443675649

"You need to focus on Brexit like I am. Forget the fact that I called a snap election in the middle of it"


feck Brexit
This more about the UK home matters

arista
31-05-2017, 05:34 PM
its also live on LBC Radio

Northern Monkey
31-05-2017, 05:48 PM
I don't believe the Polls they have been wrong too many times, its still a Tory win, but maybe not a landslide :fc:

This

Northern Monkey
31-05-2017, 05:49 PM
Stones in glass houses my friend

:joker:

Northern Monkey
31-05-2017, 05:54 PM
I said before that May was probably wise not to do live TV debates.It's not in her interest.
Now Corbyn i thought foolish for saying he wouldn't.He has everything to prove.
I think that now he sees that Labour actually have a small chance in this election he's going in for the kill.Although i'm not sure how he'd fare against Rudd.She's a steely faced lion.

Withano
31-05-2017, 05:55 PM
Corbyn and his Jackanory stories. :joker:

:clap1: whatever stops May's dark dystopian future

Withano
31-05-2017, 05:59 PM
I don't believe the Polls they have been wrong too many times, its still a Tory win, but maybe not a landslide :fc:

I think if it was held today, it would have been a Tory win, but judging by the rate that people are jumping ship, I think it might be a tory led hung parliament.

Saying that, I don't know who would agree to a coalition with them? so a labour led hung parliament isn't too far out of reality for me at the moment

Will have to see nearer the time

Kazanne
31-05-2017, 06:07 PM
I dont know why its so hard to grasp TM has said there is no point in polititions just squabbling amongst themselves,she is out meeting voters as it should be,she doesn't need to be scoring points,afterall had Corbyn been the one out canvassing I am sure people would be applauding him.

arista
31-05-2017, 06:30 PM
Live now
on BBC1HD ,
BBCnewsHD and LBC radio

reece(:
31-05-2017, 06:33 PM
I dont know why its so hard to grasp TM has said there is no point in polititions just squabbling amongst themselves,she is out meeting voters as it should be,she doesn't need to be scoring points,afterall had Corbyn been the one out canvassing I am sure people would be applauding him.

She can't formulate answers like a human and repeats cliched robotic phrases, that's the fact. Everytime she's done these programmes she's been buried. No wonder she doesn't show up :joker:

King Gizzard
31-05-2017, 06:35 PM
Lmao at Theresa's reasons for not doing the debate, focusing on the Brexit negotiations and suggesting Jeremy should do too. Why call for a general election in that case you massive spanner? And quelle surprise..no one in the media challenged her on it

King Gizzard
31-05-2017, 06:35 PM
The fact is she isn't doing it because she's a coward and knows Jeremy has her number/he has answers and she doesnt

smudgie
31-05-2017, 06:37 PM
The fact is she isn't doing it because she's a coward and knows Jeremy has her number/he has answers and she doesnt

Ok, so could you tell me the reason Corbyn wasn't going to bother either.
Changed his mind at the last minute.....maybe trying to make up for his bumbling yesterday:shrug:

King Gizzard
31-05-2017, 06:38 PM
Ok, so could you tell me the reason Corbyn wasn't going to bother either.
Changed his mind at the last minute.....maybe trying to make up for his bumbling yesterday:shrug:

Because he didn't want to do it if she wasn't there because it would just be all the leaders ganging up on him. He's always been up for the debate

Probably wanting to capitalise on all the momentum labour have been gaining in the last month

Withano
31-05-2017, 06:38 PM
Lmao at Theresa's reasons for not doing the debate, focusing on the Brexit negotiations and suggesting Jeremy should do too. Why call for a general election in that case you massive spanner? And quells surprise..no one in the media challenged her on it

Funniest thing is, I'm 100% sure that she is watching the debate live right now. Probably with staff behind her working on her tweets.

smudgie
31-05-2017, 06:40 PM
Are they all reading from an auto-cue.
Angus and Nuttall certainly looked as if they were.

joeysteele
31-05-2017, 06:42 PM
The fact is she isn't doing it because she's a coward and knows Jeremy has her number/he has answers and she doesnt

Spot on, I cannot believe the rubbish about her meeting voters.
She's talking to invited audiences,she has hardly talked to ordinary voters at all.

Also all the other leaders are doing the debates and canvassing real voters too.
If May was doing this debate and any of the other leaders or deputy leaders weren't.
That missing person would be being derided mercilessly by Con MPs and Con supporters.

Brillopad
31-05-2017, 06:42 PM
Can't stand listening to the Welsh woman or the Green woman. The way they talk grates.

reece(:
31-05-2017, 06:43 PM
Spot on, I cannot believe the rubbish about her meeting voters.
She's talking to invited audiences,she has hardly talked to ordinary voters at all.

Also all the other leaders are doing the debates and canvassing real voters too.
If May was doing this debate and any of the other leaders or deputy leaders weren't.
That missing person would be being derided mercilessly by Con MPs and Con supporters.
it's all staged :clap1:

smudgie
31-05-2017, 06:46 PM
Strewth, Amber takes no prisoners.

Can't stand listening to Farron:fist:

Brillopad
31-05-2017, 06:47 PM
The fact is she isn't doing it because she's a coward and knows Jeremy has her number/he has answers and she doesnt

Gift of the gab is not what makes a good PM. Any old salesman can do that.

Delegation To Ms Rudd who is more confident speaker is a perfectly reasonable choice.

Brother Leon
31-05-2017, 06:48 PM
The organised tweets from Torries coming out right now...but I thought these debates are silly and don't matter? "Coalition of Chaos" is the buzzword tonight. Looks like Strong and Stable has died.

smudgie
31-05-2017, 06:52 PM
Ah, wondered when Mr.Shouty man would come out:laugh::laugh:

Withano
31-05-2017, 06:54 PM
Credit where its due, that tory woman is a great speaker

Brillopad
31-05-2017, 06:55 PM
Ah, wondered when Mr.Shouty man would come out:laugh::laugh:

It gets him the claps and shouts from the loud crowd. He is playing to it.

Brillopad
31-05-2017, 06:59 PM
He is always uncomfortable when asked this because he is dancing around the subject. He will have open borders and let anyone in. He can't be trusted on this.

smudgie
31-05-2017, 07:01 PM
He is always uncomfortable when asked this because he is dancing around the subject. He will have open borders and let anyone in. He can't be trusted on this.

For sure.

smudgie
31-05-2017, 07:02 PM
Oh here we go, Farron and the bungling deal we have made.....did this deal happen whist I was sleeping?
Mind you, he has gone a full half hour and hasn't mentioned " the stitch up" yet.

smudgie
31-05-2017, 07:06 PM
Oh dear, Mr.Corbyn getting it from Angus and Farron now.

RichardG
31-05-2017, 07:09 PM
this feels like a lively episode of bbuk

i'd be very entertained if this wasn't so important :worry:

smudgie
31-05-2017, 07:10 PM
this feels like a lively episode of bbuk

i'd be very entertained if this wasn't so important :worry:

Yes, they shouldn't be allowed to talk over each other, they all get time to answer each question.

Brillopad
31-05-2017, 07:14 PM
I might not like her voice but the Welsh woman just exposed Corbyn for the hypocrite he is.

smudgie
31-05-2017, 07:15 PM
I might not like her voice but the Welsh woman just exposed Corbyn for the hypocrite he is.

Indeed.

Brillopad
31-05-2017, 07:18 PM
Decided - can't stand Farron. Annoying little man.

smudgie
31-05-2017, 07:18 PM
Don't...leave...the....European...market....blah blah blah Farron.

smudgie
31-05-2017, 07:19 PM
Drag. Him off.:laugh:

Brother Leon
31-05-2017, 07:19 PM
Full props to Rudd. She's been thrown to the Wolves by her weak and soft leader. Done about as well as she could. Still been made to look poor through.

smudgie
31-05-2017, 07:20 PM
Strewth, Theresa May was right in not attending this free for all squabble fest.:hehe:

Kazanne
31-05-2017, 07:21 PM
Strewth, Theresa May was right in not attending this free for all squabble fest.:hehe:

watching BGT,how we doing smudgie?

smudgie
31-05-2017, 07:22 PM
watching BGT,how we doing smudgie?

Yadda yadda yadda, shout shout shout, me me me , like kids in a playground basically.
And to think I missed location location location for this Bollox.:laugh::laugh:

Kazanne
31-05-2017, 07:23 PM
Yadda yadda yadda, shout shout shout, me me me , like kids in a playground basically.
And to think I missed location location location for this Bollox.:laugh::laugh:

:joker: Teresa did the right thing then.

Brillopad
31-05-2017, 07:23 PM
Yadda yadda yadda, shout shout shout, me me me , like kids in a playground basically.
And to think I missed location location location for this Bollox.:laugh::laugh:

:joker:

Kizzy
31-05-2017, 07:27 PM
Yes the best thing to do when the going gets tough ...send someone else who is a better orator. May is a farce as a leader she is weak and ineffective, as this proves, no point crowing from the sidelines during an election :/

Brillopad
31-05-2017, 07:28 PM
I find it hard to stomach someone like Corbyn condemn terrorist attacks when his open door policies will let in a lot more terrorists. If that happens his policies will be directly responsible for future attacks and deAths. The two are directly related.

smudgie
31-05-2017, 07:29 PM
I find it hard to stomach someone like Corbyn condemn terrorist attacks when his open door policies will let in a lot more terrorists. If that happens his policies will be directly responsible for future attacks and deAths. The two are directly related.

Ah, old hat to Jeremy, he likes to rub shoulders with terrorists anyhow.
He will be inviting the scum to afternoon tea given the chance.

Brother Leon
31-05-2017, 07:31 PM
I find it hard to stomach someone like Corbyn condemn terrorist attacks when his open door policies will let in a lot more terrorists. If that happens his policies will be directly responsible for future attacks and deAths. The two are directly related.

It's hard to stomach any condemnation from our country considering the training and funds we provided those very same terrorists...

Brillopad
31-05-2017, 07:33 PM
Yes the best thing to do when the going gets tough ...send someone else who is a better orator. May is a farce as a leader she is weak and ineffective, as this proves, no point crowing from the sidelines during an election :/

Not having the gift of the gab does not make her weak. Her strengths lie elsewhere. Corbyn has always been a weak orator which is why he lost the last election. He has improved this time round because he has more to prove.

King Gizzard
31-05-2017, 07:35 PM
She's the prime minister, it's literally in the mandate to be a good speaker/debater

*facepalm*

Kazanne
31-05-2017, 07:37 PM
Not having the gift of the gab does not make her weak. Her strengths lie elsewhere. Corbyn has always been a weak orator which is why he lost the last election. He has improved this time round because he has more to prove.

Cameron would have whipped Corbyns tongue out and shoved it up his ass.:hee:

Kizzy
31-05-2017, 07:39 PM
Not having the gift of the gab does not make her weak. Her strengths lie elsewhere. Corbyn has always been a weak orator which is why he lost the last election. He has improved this time round because he has more to prove.

What?... He was't leader then :laugh:

Brillopad
31-05-2017, 07:39 PM
She's the prime minister, it's literally in the mandate to be a good speaker/debater

*facepalm*

Neither is Corbyn. Blair was a good orator, look how that worked out. There are many skills that are required - speaking is only one of them.

Kizzy
31-05-2017, 07:41 PM
It's her face it does weird things when she's trying to appear genuine... it's really rather disturbing.
You can also tell she's lying from her tone for a tory politician she's a **** liar... :idc:

Brillopad
31-05-2017, 07:49 PM
Never trust a man who keeps blinking when he speaks. Interesting to know what a behaviourist makes of that. I think it would suggest a lack of openness and honesty.

MB.
31-05-2017, 07:50 PM
I too would rather a leader who never blinks

smudgie
31-05-2017, 07:52 PM
Ok, how many of the audience told porkies and said they were voting Tory or undecided.
Like Tories would cheer Corbyn saying how many supporters his party have, same as why would the undecided.
Mockery:fist:

Kazanne
31-05-2017, 07:53 PM
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Kizzy
31-05-2017, 07:54 PM
Never trust a man who keeps blinking when he speaks. Interesting to know what a behaviourist makes of that. I think it would suggest a lack of openness and honesty.

Like this does?...
https://media.giphy.com/media/FY351vYfCwzio/giphy.gif

smudgie
31-05-2017, 07:56 PM
Like this does?...
https://media.giphy.com/media/FY351vYfCwzio/giphy.gif

Hmmmm, but I must say, he has a sexy look about him.:blush:

Brillopad
31-05-2017, 07:57 PM
Like this does?...
https://media.giphy.com/media/FY351vYfCwzio/giphy.gif

I prefer the middle ground than either extreme.

Brother Leon
31-05-2017, 08:04 PM
Proud to be a believer in Corbyn and the leadership he has shown this Campaign.

DemolitionRed
31-05-2017, 08:08 PM
Well that went well. For everyone except the Rudd that is!

Withano
31-05-2017, 08:08 PM
Tbf, excessive blinking is one of the best anti-labour arguments I've seen on here

DemolitionRed
31-05-2017, 08:08 PM
Proud to be a believer in Corbyn and the leadership he has shown this Campaign.

Me too. He makes me proud to be British.

hijaxers
31-05-2017, 08:20 PM
She's busy running the Country. She's no time for a chat Mr Corbyn.

Surely you mean ruining the country

Northern Monkey
31-05-2017, 08:24 PM
Idk i'd say the Green lady was a stand out for me.She did well.Farron also spoke well imo.
Corbyn did just ok imo.Did'nt quite take his chance to show himself maybe.
Rudd for me was far more impressive on Marr the other day.She held her own but was lacklustre from previous performances.She was better than May would've been.

Withano
31-05-2017, 08:38 PM
Surely you mean ruining the country

:joker:

Brillopad
31-05-2017, 08:48 PM
Well that went well. For everyone except the Rudd that is!

Who are you trying to kid - she was the best speaker there.

Denver
31-05-2017, 08:50 PM
Surely you mean ruining the country

Or still fixing it after Labour destroyed it

Alf
31-05-2017, 08:52 PM
Surely you mean ruining the countryYou could be right, and that would be my second typo of the day.

joeysteele
31-05-2017, 09:01 PM
Caroline Lucas always performs well in debates.
Nuttall was awful, Robertson was okay,Farron closing line was his best,' Theresa May wouldn't give that audience her time so they shouldn't give her theirs '.
I really like Leanne Wood,could listen to her voice for hours.
Amber Rudd was up against it and deservedly so,she's awful.
Jeremy Corbyn handled things competently and was a bit more combative which was good to see.

DemolitionRed
01-06-2017, 09:56 AM
Idk i'd say the Green lady was a stand out for me.She did well.Farron also spoke well imo.
Corbyn did just ok imo.Did'nt quite take his chance to show himself maybe.
Rudd for me was far more impressive on Marr the other day.She held her own but was lacklustre from previous performances.She was better than May would've been.

In fairness to Rudd, her farther died less than 48 hours before she was on air. She should never of stood in as the sacrificial lamb.

Kazanne
01-06-2017, 09:58 AM
In fairness to Rudd, her farther died less than 48 hours before she was on air. She should never of stood in as the sacrificial lamb.

She wanted to do it as she said her father would have wanted her to,but kudos to her for holding it together.

DemolitionRed
01-06-2017, 10:04 AM
Caroline Lucas always performs well in debates.
Nuttall was awful, Robertson was okay,Farron closing line was his best,' Theresa May wouldn't give that audience her time so they shouldn't give her theirs '.
I really like Leanne Wood,could listen to her voice for hours.
Amber Rudd was up against it and deservedly so,she's awful.
Jeremy Corbyn handled things competently and was a bit more combative which was good to see.

I agree with most of what you've said but I didn't think Corbyn was at his best last night. He looked tense and tired. Farron is a very fluent talker and he really did give the Tories a bashing.

'The magic money tree' and that comment about Labour being profligate was a kick under the belt though. If we want to talk about magic money trees, perhaps we should start in the Bahamas. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/sep/22/amber-rudd-facing-calls-to-clarify-involvement-in-tax-havens

Northern Monkey
01-06-2017, 10:09 AM
In fairness to Rudd, her farther died less than 48 hours before she was on air. She should never of stood in as the sacrificial lamb.

I didn't know that.
Fair play to her.Although you'd think May might've gone in and done it considering the circumstances

Northern Monkey
01-06-2017, 10:13 AM
You can see why Bennett stood down as Green leader.Lucas is a very good speaker.
The Lib Dems tend to have good speakers too.Clegg always impressed me in debates and interviews.I think they're wasted in that party.

DemolitionRed
01-06-2017, 10:15 AM
I didn't know that.
Fair play to her.Although you'd think May might've gone in and done it considering the circumstances

Yes, it shouldn't of been her. There were a few times last night when I thought she was going to cry and there was one camera close up where she looked to be in another world. To people who didn't know, that looked like Tory weakness.

As much as I don't like the Tory party, I think it was very unfair to put her on such a tough platform so soon after losing her dad.

DemolitionRed
01-06-2017, 10:21 AM
You can see why Bennett stood down as Green leader.Lucas is a very good speaker.
The Lib Dems tend to have good speakers too.Clegg always impressed me in debates and interviews.I think they're wasted in that party.

The Greens have been tremendous in thrashing out some fantastic economic policies with Labour. If this is a hung parliament, I would love the Greens to come in with Labour.

Green and Labour economics are pretty outstanding. Unfortunately they've had no end of trouble getting that message across the snake pit.

Northern Monkey
01-06-2017, 10:25 AM
The Greens have been tremendous in thrashing out some fantastic economic policies with Labour. If this is a hung parliament, I would love the Greens to come in with Labour.

Green and Labour economics are pretty outstanding. Unfortunately they've had no end of trouble getting that message across the snake pit.

I don't know much about economics but i just can't with the Greens.Far too 'progressive' for me.I'm struggling enough on voting Labour or just not voting at all.

Wizard.
01-06-2017, 10:28 AM
Why do Corbyn fanatics have to hijack everything they're worse than Trump supporters cheering Jeremy and booing Amber Rudd

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Withano
01-06-2017, 10:38 AM
Tbf, I think she got booed for not being May. I'd imagine the Tories booed too. A lot were disappointed.

Ronald.
01-06-2017, 10:41 AM
I enjoyed this but I don't like when they all talk over each other. R.

DemolitionRed
01-06-2017, 10:46 AM
I don't know much about economics but i just can't with the Greens.Far too 'progressive' for me.I'm struggling enough on voting Labour or just not voting at all.

Economics are the very core of politics. If we don't understand how political arithmetic works, how can we work out the implications of government spending?

DemolitionRed
01-06-2017, 10:48 AM
Why do Corbyn fanatics have to hijack everything they're worse than Trump supporters cheering Jeremy and booing Amber Rudd

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Thanks for the links. That gave me a warm fuzzy feeling!

smudgie
01-06-2017, 10:54 AM
Caroline Lucas wants to give EVERY adult £80 a week, working or not, that would include millionaires.:crazy:

Brother Leon
01-06-2017, 11:50 AM
Why do Corbyn fanatics have to hijack everything they're worse than Trump supporters cheering Jeremy and booing Amber Rudd

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How dare people actually be passionate about a political figure for once...

Denver
01-06-2017, 11:56 AM
How dare people actually be passionate about a political figure for once...

Passionate people do not boo like children

Cherie
01-06-2017, 12:05 PM
Caroline Lucas wants to give EVERY adult £80 a week, working or not, that would include millionaires.:crazy:

I'd like that :laugh:

smudgie
01-06-2017, 12:20 PM
I'd like that :laugh:

Can't see anybody saying no to it....but can't see it helping those that really need it much when it would leave so much less in the over all budget.:joker:

Kazanne
01-06-2017, 12:26 PM
Passionate people do not boo like children

:clap1::clap1:

Niamh.
01-06-2017, 12:46 PM
Passionate people do not boo like children

Why not? :laugh:

Denver
01-06-2017, 12:57 PM
Why not? :laugh:

Because Politics are a serious matter not an episode of Big Brother

Niamh.
01-06-2017, 12:59 PM
Because Politics are a serious matter not an episode of Big Brother

That doesn't explain why someone isn't passionate if they boo though

Denver
01-06-2017, 01:00 PM
That doesn't explain why someone isn't passionate if they boo though

If you are passionate you debate not boo

Tom4784
01-06-2017, 01:00 PM
I didn't know that.
Fair play to her.Although you'd think May might've gone in and done it considering the circumstances

May will never do a debate. it would be too easy to blow her up since she comes undone if anyone pushes her to talk about specifics. Catchphrases won't work in a debate scenario.

Niamh.
01-06-2017, 01:01 PM
If you are passionate you debate not boo

Passion can be expressed in lots of different ways though

Niamh.
01-06-2017, 01:02 PM
If you are passionate you debate not boo

May will never do a debate. it would be too easy to blow her up since she comes undone if anyone pushes her to talk about specifics. Catchphrases won't work in a debate scenario.

:hehe:

Denver
01-06-2017, 01:05 PM
May will never do a debate. it would be too easy to blow her up since she comes undone if anyone pushes her to talk about specifics. Catchphrases won't work in a debate scenario.

Or she will just let the other leaders show themselves up again like last night

Denver
01-06-2017, 01:05 PM
It is hilarious Corbyn is still refusing to clarify his links to terrorism

DemolitionRed
01-06-2017, 01:13 PM
Passionate people do not boo like children

Try telling that to the House of Commons!

Brother Leon
01-06-2017, 01:18 PM
It is hilarious Corbyn is still refusing to clarify his links to terrorism

It is hilarious May is still refusing to clarify anything.

DemolitionRed
01-06-2017, 01:23 PM
It is hilarious May is still refusing to clarify anything.

She can't because she knows how unpopular she'd be. How anyone can trust her perhaps and MAYbe's is beyond me.

Denver
01-06-2017, 01:23 PM
It is hilarious May is still refusing to clarify anything.

At least she doesn't invite terrorists to Westminster

lewis111
01-06-2017, 01:26 PM
At least she doesn't invite terrorists to Westminster

This is all you ever say/bring up when ever proven wrong or have no proper response

DemolitionRed
01-06-2017, 01:29 PM
This is all you ever say/bring up when ever proven wrong or have no proper response

Typical Daily Mail response...sickening isn't it.

Denver
01-06-2017, 01:31 PM
This is all you ever say/bring up when ever proven wrong or have no proper response

He has proven links to Hamas

Denver
01-06-2017, 01:31 PM
Corbyn wants terrorists in the UK and he doesn't want the UK to be able to defend themselves

Niamh.
01-06-2017, 01:35 PM
Corbyn wants terrorists in the UK and he doesn't want the UK to be able to defend themselves

:conf2:

Ronald.
01-06-2017, 01:36 PM
Corbyn wants terrorists in the UK and he doesn't want the UK to be able to defend themselves

Deary me. R.

lewis111
01-06-2017, 01:38 PM
Corbyn wants terrorists in the UK and he doesn't want the UK to be able to defend themselves

I'm unable to tell if you are serious or just trying to provoke a reaction out of people

Denver
01-06-2017, 01:41 PM
He has invited a terrorist organisation over to the UK so of course he wants terrorists in the UK

Greg!
01-06-2017, 01:42 PM
Corbyn wants terrorists in the UK and he doesn't want the UK to be able to defend themselves

Sure Jan!

Denver
01-06-2017, 01:42 PM
Also he thinks the police are better at dealing with suspected terrorists then secret intelligence

Brother Leon
01-06-2017, 02:06 PM
At least she doesn't invite terrorists to Westminster

No. She just flies out on a private jet to them instead. :hee:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/04/04/K-Prime-Minister-Theresa-May-Visits-Jordan-And-Saudi-Arabia-To-Promote-Trade-An-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqhIfhfFvTGmzkdBIix06fW41PDL zJVEssQ7pRbAifo3I.jpg

Jack_
01-06-2017, 02:12 PM
I'm unable to tell if you are serious or just trying to provoke a reaction out of people

The latter

Ronald.
01-06-2017, 02:12 PM
The latter

How sad if true. R.

LukeB
01-06-2017, 02:13 PM
I'm unable to tell if you are serious or just trying to provoke a reaction out of people

the right answer to your question

Withano
01-06-2017, 02:14 PM
Corbyn wants terrorists in the UK and he doesn't want the UK to be able to defend themselves

You literally do right wing people / tory supporters a dishonour

Denver
01-06-2017, 02:25 PM
The latter

Pot Kettle

Denver
01-06-2017, 02:26 PM
No. She just flies out on a private jet to them instead. :hee:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/04/04/K-Prime-Minister-Theresa-May-Visits-Jordan-And-Saudi-Arabia-To-Promote-Trade-An-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqhIfhfFvTGmzkdBIix06fW41PDL zJVEssQ7pRbAifo3I.jpg

Did you not cry about people tarnishing all muslims terrorists the other day?

Northern Monkey
01-06-2017, 02:28 PM
Corbyn wants terrorists in the UK and he doesn't want the UK to be able to defend themselves

Now i'm no Corbyn fan at all and i know about the IRA and Hamas stuff and his links with the anti-Western Stop The War Coalition
However this is too far.

If what you say were the case nobody would vote for him and he wouldn't be Labour leader.

King Gizzard
01-06-2017, 02:28 PM
...we're supposed to be taking anything that Adam says seriously?

Denver
01-06-2017, 02:31 PM
Now i'm no Corbyn fan at all and i know about the IRA and Hamas stuff and his links with the anti-Western Stop The War Coalition
However this is too far.

If what you say were the case nobody would vote for him and he wouldn't be Labour leader.

He wants to get rid of tridents and take money away from Secret Intelligence now tell me how is that helping the fight against terrorism?

There is nothing normal police officer can do about terrorism which he clearly thinks they can

Denver
01-06-2017, 02:34 PM
That lib dem idiot was a bit of a clown.

He was asked to campaign why people should vote him but all he said is why they should not vote tory.

The lib dems will always be in the tory pockets

Denver
01-06-2017, 02:35 PM
It is also true what all the other leaders said that how can Corbyn run a country when he doesnt have the support from his own party

Brother Leon
01-06-2017, 03:12 PM
Did you not cry about people tarnishing all muslims terrorists the other day?

Research the Saudi government and what they are doing in Yemen. Once you are done, give yourself a little slap for being cheeky and failing :hee:

Denver
01-06-2017, 03:14 PM
Research the Saudi government and what they are doing in Yemen. Once you are done, give yourself a nice slap :hee:

She went to a country which she has to go to Corybn went to the terrorist organisation to have private talks and refuses to deny involvement

Brother Leon
01-06-2017, 03:16 PM
She went to a country which she has to go to Corybn went to the terrorist organisation to have private talks and refuses to deny involvement

She doesn't have to. It's a Choice. Terrorists sympathiser Corbyn won't be getting involved with them for starters..

Denver
01-06-2017, 03:19 PM
She doesn't have to. It's a Choice. Terrorists sympathiser Corbyn won't be getting involved with them for starters..

No he would rather get involved with groups actively killing innocent people

Brother Leon
01-06-2017, 03:30 PM
No he would rather get involved with groups actively killing innocent people

http://lhvnews.com/files/en/news/2015/4/11/24105_522.jpg

http://media.salon.com/2016/01/yemeni-girl-crying.jpg

These are not Innocent enough for you?

Denver
01-06-2017, 03:32 PM
http://lhvnews.com/files/en/news/2015/4/11/24105_522.jpg

http://media.salon.com/2016/01/yemeni-girl-crying.jpg

These are not Innocent enough for you?

It is no worse to what labour did in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria or are you going to forget those countries ever existed?

DemolitionRed
01-06-2017, 05:00 PM
It is no worse to what labour did in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria or are you going to forget those countries ever existed?

But we aren't talking about Iraq, Afghanistan or Syria. We are talking about Palestine. So do these Palestinian children deserve our sympathy? Who is bombing them? who is driving them out?

Beso
01-06-2017, 05:06 PM
But we aren't talking about Iraq, Afghanistan or Syria. We are talking about Palestine. So do these Palestinian children deserve our sympathy? Who is bombing them? who is driving them out?

People could also say we aint talking about all muslims, just the extremist ones and those who protect and conceal them.:shrug:

Brother Leon
01-06-2017, 06:55 PM
It is no worse to what labour did in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria or are you going to forget those countries ever existed?

This is the first year I'm voting Labour for a reason, their foreign policy has been far from perfect, but in Corbyn I have full faith as he called all of this way back before Iraq.

I'm just highlighting your hypocrisy towards him. Ties and responsibility for terrlrosm can be linked to almost every Politician in this country. Simple facts. So, unless you want to acknowledge that with Theresa May and throw it back at her, then the Corbyn point is mute.

Kizzy
01-06-2017, 06:58 PM
They can't be linked to him though he advocated diplomacy, what is wrong with that?... I don't get it :/

Wizard.
01-06-2017, 11:06 PM
3.5M viewers and anti-Tories are going on like Theresa is out of the running for not showing up :joker:

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DemolitionRed
01-06-2017, 11:23 PM
People could also say we aint talking about all muslims, just the extremist ones and those who protect and conceal them.:shrug:

So the Hamas government in Gaza are Muslim extremists ?

What does that make the Israeli government ?

Corbyn is a traitor because he had past talks with Hamas but Cameron isn't a traitor for being best buddies with al-Ḥukūma?

Denver
01-06-2017, 11:26 PM
Everyone hated Cameron soo

DemolitionRed
02-06-2017, 08:40 AM
Not knowing the truth doesn't make you ignorant,
not wanting to know the truth makes you ignorant.

Kizzy
02-06-2017, 08:50 AM
Very profound, and apt :)

Ronald.
02-06-2017, 08:55 AM
3.5M viewers and anti-Tories are going on like Theresa is out of the running for not showing up :joker:

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Which is exactly why it's important there's a few of those debates on at different times so as many people as possible can get to watch these leaders speaking. R.

Kizzy
02-06-2017, 09:03 AM
Did they put them on at the same time to distract the plebs?.....