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arista
02-06-2017, 10:03 AM
On one at a time, of course
BBC1HD & SkyNewsHD 8:30PM


from York
Live

arista
02-06-2017, 05:30 PM
Amazing
BBC allows SkyNewsHD to show it as well.

arista
02-06-2017, 07:31 PM
Live now `q

arista
02-06-2017, 07:31 PM
PM first

smudgie
02-06-2017, 07:32 PM
Yeah, watched the build up on the BBC New channel.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 07:32 PM
Theresa looks a state!

reece(:
02-06-2017, 07:39 PM
That man dragging her :joker:

arista
02-06-2017, 07:39 PM
Theresa looks a state!

i agree

reece(:
02-06-2017, 07:40 PM
Her going on about getting "out and about" again.

What to the staged setups?

Alf
02-06-2017, 07:41 PM
Theresa looks a state!She'll be running one in less than a week.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 07:41 PM
"No deal better than a bad deal"

Here we go again, the cliches are running in endlessly.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 07:43 PM
Theresa cornered for not thinking about the 48%

reece(:
02-06-2017, 07:44 PM
Dimbleby fishing out receipts :joker:

Brother Leon
02-06-2017, 07:44 PM
"No deal better than a bad deal"

Here we go again, the cliches are running in endlessly.

This is why she tries to avoid debates as much as possible. Her sound bytes can only go so far..

reece(:
02-06-2017, 07:46 PM
She's stuttering already

reece(:
02-06-2017, 07:47 PM
Hope her whole slot isn't about brexit

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 07:49 PM
Wish she'd keep her head more still and stop the contortions of her face.
However, these are really so far pathetic questions.

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 07:50 PM
Theresa looks a state!

If we are going to get silly childish comments,I'll add one,she'll look good next to Steptoe

reece(:
02-06-2017, 07:50 PM
She's utterly deluded.

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 07:53 PM
It would be nice if Dimbleby let her answer the questions.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 07:53 PM
Dimbleby clocked her changing her mind for the millionth time

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 07:55 PM
It would be nice if Dimbleby let her answer the questions.

There I agree,he is presenting so should only keep it going.
As ever he'll end up asking more questions likely than the audience.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 07:58 PM
She always says "we recognise" but never acts upon it

Brother Leon
02-06-2017, 07:59 PM
Liar Liar.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 07:59 PM
Labour's magic money tree is her new catchphrase.....

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:00 PM
How is it record levels of funding if NHS is in crisis and the worst state it's ever been in?

Scarlett.
02-06-2017, 08:00 PM
May is getting demolished.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:01 PM
"Do you sleep happy at that"

:joker::joker::joker:

Greg!
02-06-2017, 08:03 PM
Omg poor gal waiting 2 years for a mental health appointment

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:03 PM
Welp the mistreated girl :(

RichardG
02-06-2017, 08:04 PM
and unfortunately for this woman, the counselling that she's waited two years for will most likely be utterly useless

speaking from experience

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 08:04 PM
It's her work capability assessments causing massive unfair stress.
Just scrap those humiliating assessments but she never will.

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:05 PM
If you go for an assessment for mental health issues I hardly think being asked about suicide is out of order.
Even the ruddy doctor will ask you similar.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:05 PM
No wonder Theresa doesn't do TV often

Greg!
02-06-2017, 08:06 PM
Any civilised government would have scrapped the work capability assessments years ago because they've caused suicides

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 08:06 PM
No wonder Theresa doesn't do TV often

I was just going to say that.:joker:

Scarlett.
02-06-2017, 08:06 PM
If you go for an assessment for mental health issues I hardly think being asked about suicide is out of order.
Even the ruddy doctor will ask you similar.

Assessors are not doctors, they don't really have the right to be asking this sort of thing

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:07 PM
These oldie tories don't have a clue

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 08:07 PM
Was that girl blaming the PM for how that nurse treated her? surely that would be the nurses fault.

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:07 PM
Any civilised government would have scrapped the work capability assessments years ago because they've caused suicides

Ah yes, let's just let anybody apply knowing they will automatically get it.

Brillopad
02-06-2017, 08:07 PM
At least a more civilised audience tonight.

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 08:08 PM
These oldie tories don't have a clue

Oh ,and of course you know better :laugh:

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:08 PM
Was that girl blaming the PM for how that nurse treated her? surely that would be the nurses fault.

It's not a fault though Kaz, these same questions were asked over 30 years ago, if you go for an assessment they need to know the facts.

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 08:08 PM
... and he's still voting Conservative.
And what,she doesn't know of n Korea gets money.
Unbelievable.

Greg!
02-06-2017, 08:09 PM
Ah yes, let's just let anybody apply knowing they will automatically get it.

Or improve the assessments by, for example, having actual medical professionals do the assessments so that they don't cause suicides and force disabled people to work? :think:

Brillopad
02-06-2017, 08:09 PM
May is getting demolished.

She is not - I don't know what you're watching.

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:09 PM
Assessors are not doctors, they don't really have the right to be asking this sort of thing

The nurse has every right.
She has a form that you have actually filled out, then asks questions re your answers.
I do not agree with anybody outside of the medical profession doing these assessments to start with.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:10 PM
... and he's still voting Conservative.
And what,she doesn't know of n Korea gets money.
Unbelievable.

Theresa could give a bunch of answers against his belief and pull faces for the slot and still would get his vote :joker:

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 08:10 PM
She is not - I don't know what you're watching.

:laugh: I wondered that too,I thought she was explaining things pretty well,that's if people actually listen and get past the way she is dressed !!!!

arista
02-06-2017, 08:10 PM
she has 5mins left

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:10 PM
She is not - I don't know what you're watching.

Ummm .... I um think sssshhhhe is!

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:11 PM
Or improve the assessments by, for example, having actual medical professionals do the assessments so that they don't cause suicides and force disabled people to work? :think:

Yes, I totally agree that theses assessments should be carried out by the medical profession, just posted about it actually.

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 08:11 PM
Theresa could give a bunch of answers against his belief and pull faces for the slot and still would get his vote :joker:

She's pulling plenty of faces anyway :joker:

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:11 PM
Can she get dragged for the fox hunting before her slot ends?

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 08:12 PM
Ummm .... I um think sssshhhhe is!

Of course you do :hehe:

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:12 PM
Or will she get dragged for robbing kids of their dinner and breakfast?

Scarlett.
02-06-2017, 08:12 PM
The nurse has every right.
She has a form that you have actually filled out, then asks questions re your answers.
I do not agree with anybody outside of the medical profession doing these assessments to start with.

Fair enough, I'm not too informed about how these assessments are done, but surely, they dont have to be pushed to reveal very personal details, just to receive help.

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 08:12 PM
Can she get dragged for the fox hunting before her slot ends?

Doubt it.

Brother Leon
02-06-2017, 08:12 PM
She's fell apart from the NHS question onwards. I mean, she was just sidestepping every question before that, but from there she was generally looking clueless.

Black Dagger
02-06-2017, 08:12 PM
She is hopeless. Imagine thinking this performance has been good.

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 08:13 PM
She is hopeless. Imagine thinking this performance has been good.

I didn't think it was bad Lucas :hee:

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:14 PM
She is definitely holding her own. Plenty of applause coming her way.

Brother Leon
02-06-2017, 08:14 PM
As if she she had a word with Trump. She will continue to suck him off as she needs him Post Brexit.

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 08:15 PM
I didn't think it was bad Lucas :hee:

Well I bet you'll think this next bit is bad no.msttervwhat he says.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:15 PM
Piss poor performance, dodging questions, BSing and offering her rehearsed catchphrases - as expected.

Brillopad
02-06-2017, 08:15 PM
:laugh: I wondered that too,I thought she was explaining things pretty well,that's if people actually listen and get past the way she is dressed !!!!

What's all this playground nonsence about how her face allegedly moves - is that really how the left want to play politics.

She is quite strong tonight which can't be easy after all the nasty c**p she has had put up with recently.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:16 PM
Legend Jezza getting the cheers :clap1:

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:17 PM
Good point.
No good going and rolling over for them now is it?:joker:

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 08:19 PM
Well I bet you'll think this next bit is bad no.msttervwhat he says.

Well I wont be going on about the state he dresses or faces he pulls Joey,I will listen to him as THAT is what is important don't you think?

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:20 PM
Well I wont be going on about the state he dresses or faces he pulls Joey,I will listen to him as THAT is what is important don't you think?

Indeed.
We need to concentrate to wade through the bull****.:joker:

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 08:21 PM
As if she she had a word with Trump. She will continue to suck him off as she needs him Post Brexit.

So you know better than Sky News ? yes ,it was reported very early this morning that she had rebuffed him,but if you are determined to believe lies,be my guest.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:23 PM
Jez won't be arselicking Trump like Mrs May has been :clap1:

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:24 PM
Jez won't be arselicking Trump like Mrs May has been :clap1:

True...hopefully he won't get the chance to get anywhere near him :laugh:

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 08:25 PM
Jez won't be arselicking Trump like Mrs May has been :clap1:

So glad I am on the opposite side to this kind of mindset,you even call him 'Jez' like he's your mate :joker:

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:25 PM
Poverty, the word used for low income.
No absolute poverty nowadays.

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 08:26 PM
True...hopefully he won't get the chance to get anywhere near him :laugh:

Boom !!:joker:

Brillopad
02-06-2017, 08:27 PM
Well I wont be going on about the state he dresses or faces he pulls Joey,I will listen to him as THAT is what is important don't you think?

Here, here.

Politics is supposedly for adults, if people can't raise about that type of behaviour they have no right being there.

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:27 PM
Even John McDonnell said it was gifts on the tree for everyone.

arista
02-06-2017, 08:31 PM
JC got more cheers, that the PM
at the starts

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 08:33 PM
Poverty, the word used for low income.
No absolute poverty nowadays.

He and no one else has said there is absolute poverty.
However there is poverty, are you saying the 5th richest Nation should consider it acceptable to have any kind of poverty.
I certainly don't think that acceptable.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:33 PM
JC got more cheers, that the PM
at the starts

For the many not the few!

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:35 PM
He and no one else has said there is absolute poverty.
However there is poverty, are you saying the 5th richest Nation should consider it acceptable to have any kind of poverty.
I certainly don't think that acceptable.

People assume that poverty means poverty.
It is based on different standards to real poverty.
Why don't they just call it what it is, say more people are on low incomes rather than in poverty.

Brillopad
02-06-2017, 08:37 PM
JC got more cheers, that the PM
at the starts

Do you know how many didn't cheer? It may well be the majority didn't - loud does not represent truth - just an illusion of it.

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:39 PM
Do you know how many didn't cheer? It may well be the majority didn't - loud does not represent truth - just an illusion of it.

True, the same as the aggressive way some questions are asked.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:39 PM
King of peace

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 08:40 PM
look at him stumbling now,sorry he comes over as dodgy to me very insincere as fake as Katie prices tits

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 08:40 PM
People assume that poverty means poverty.
It is based on different standards to real poverty.
Why don't they just call it what it is, say more people are on low incomes rather than in poverty.

That doesn't make sense.
You listed absolute poverty in your post,I stated poverty.

For instance this govt considers people in energy poverty if a certain percentage of their disposable income goes on it.

Low incomes help create poverty actually.

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:40 PM
Oh dear.
Not going down too well.

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 08:41 PM
Can you imagine if TM had refused to answer that question,LOL she'de have been crucified,he just wouldn't answer,why not?

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:41 PM
Tory grandpa needs to calm down

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 08:42 PM
What a Nation of warmongers the UK is being taken on the road to being.
Nuclear weapons used will wipe all out.
As a song says,there'll be no one to save with the World in a grave.

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 08:43 PM
Tory grandpa needs to calm down

Why ? did he ask a question that had Corbyn on the ropes?

Brillopad
02-06-2017, 08:43 PM
Can you imagine if TM had refused to answer that question,LOL she'de have been crucified,he just wouldn't answer,why not?

This lot would be tearing her to shreds. But if it's Corbyn out come the defensive excuses.

This country will not be safe in his hands.

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:43 PM
That doesn't make sense.
You listed absolute poverty in your post,I stated poverty.

For instance this govt considers people in energy poverty if a certain percentage of their disposable income goes on it.

Low incomes help create poverty actually.

Well it makes sense to me.
I stated both absolute poverty and poverty.
One doesn't exist and the other is now a word that covers ' low income'.
The more wages go up, the more people will go into 'poverty'.
Not because they are any worse off, but because some people will be better off.
All to do with percentages and median wage.

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 08:45 PM
Can you imagine if TM had refused to answer that question,LOL she'de have been crucified,he just wouldn't answer,why not?

He answered it before.
I think his hate for and position as to nuclear weapons has been known for decades.
He hasn't changed his position ever.

Scarlett.
02-06-2017, 08:45 PM
This lot would be tearing her to shreds. But if it's Corbyn out come the defensive excuses.

This country will not be safe in his hands.

As a Corbyn supporter, I acknowledge that he handled that question terribly, however we're not electing him as a leader in a nuclear war, so it's not really an issue at the forefront.

Brillopad
02-06-2017, 08:45 PM
What a Nation of warmongers the UK is being taken on the road to being.
Nuclear weapons used will wipe all out.
As a song says,there'll be no one to save with the World in a grave.

DETERENT - do people Not understand what that means. Without it we are screwed.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:46 PM
He answered it before.
I think his hate for and position as to nuclear weapons has been known for decades.
He hasn't changed his position ever.

He doesn't backtrack and change his mind every few months

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:46 PM
DETERENT - do people Not understand what that means. Without it we are screwed.

It's staying :conf::conf::conf:

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 08:47 PM
Well it makes sense to me.
I stated both absolute poverty and poverty.
One doesn't exist and the other is now a word that covers ' low income'.
The more wages go up, the more people will go into 'poverty'.
Not because they are any worse off, but because some people will be better off.
All to do with percentages and median wage.

No.
I say again,low incomes can lead to poverty.
Address low incomes then poverty will decrease.
Two different things.

Brillopad
02-06-2017, 08:47 PM
He answered it before.
I think his hate for and position as to nuclear weapons has been known for decades.
He hasn't changed his position ever.

Hence he is dangerous to our country.

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:47 PM
He answered it before.
I think his hate for and position as to nuclear weapons has been known for decades.
He hasn't changed his position ever.

I will give him that.
His ideology hasn't changed, but it just doesn't make sense, we need it as much if not more now than ever.
As a deterrent, and that won't work if you publicly say you won't arm them or press the button.

Scarlett.
02-06-2017, 08:49 PM
that won't work if you publicly say you won't arm them or press the button.

He didn't say he wouldn't press it. He said he'd work to prevent a scenario where he wouldn't be in that situation.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:49 PM
Jez would rather be a diplomat then go about blowing up millions of people :clap1:
although he DIDN'T totally rule it out either.

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:49 PM
I agree about getting rid of zero hours contracts, just call it casual labour like they did years ago.
If you want a bar job so many hours a week and maybe the chance of overtime, but the likes of Tesco etc having zero hours contracts is disgusting.

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 08:51 PM
I will give him that.
His ideology hasn't changed, but it just doesn't make sense, we need it as much if not more now than ever.
As a deterrent, and that won't work if you publicly say you won't arm them or press the button.

He has said he'd sign all the necessary letters related to it.
I'd rather hope no one would ever have to enact same for the sake of the planet,not just for the UK alone.

Brillopad
02-06-2017, 08:51 PM
He didn't say he wouldn't press it. He said he'd work to prevent a scenario where he wouldn't be in that situation.

He stuttered and stammered his way around that question which provided absolutely zero faith in his honesty for me.

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:51 PM
He didn't say he wouldn't press it. He said he'd work to prevent a scenario where he wouldn't be in that situation.

He has in the past, and saying not at first resort is exactly the same as not bothering.
No good once you have been blown to smithereens.

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:52 PM
Ah still pedalling the lies about being part of the peace process.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:52 PM
I'd rather not be here in a nuclear/global war anyway, no thanks

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 08:53 PM
Those IRA questions clearly get him rattled,

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 08:53 PM
I agree about getting rid of zero hours contracts, just call it casual labour like they did years ago.
If you want a bar job so many hours a week and maybe the chance of overtime, but the likes of Tesco etc having zero hours contracts is disgusting.

ASDA too Smudgie,the ASDA near me has put all staff on 16 hour contracts and also uses zero hours ones too.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:53 PM
Predictable boring IRA questions

He's stated constantly over the past few weeks how much he deplores them.

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 08:54 PM
Predictable boring IRA questions

He's stated constantly over the past few weeks how much he deplores them.

He's a liar they ALL are aren't they?

smudgie
02-06-2017, 08:54 PM
ASDA too Smudgie,the ASDA near me has put all staff on 16 hour contracts and also uses zero hours ones too.

It's bloody diabolical Joey.
Total disgrace, I think whoever gets in next, we need to campaign against this.

Brillopad
02-06-2017, 08:54 PM
Predictable boring IRA questions

He's stated constantly over the past few weeks how much he deplores them.

Scary ones for Corbyn and his supporters. I wonder why!

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:54 PM
"High taxes" :joker: they will be lower than 2012 lmao.

arista
02-06-2017, 08:55 PM
5mins to go

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 08:55 PM
Predictable boring IRA questions

He's stated constantly over the past few weeks how much he deplores them.

The standards of questioning for both has been really poor.
Dimbleby poking in all the time prolonging points is very distracting too.

Brillopad
02-06-2017, 08:56 PM
The standards of questioning for both has been really poor.
Dimbleby poking in all the time prolonging points is very distracting too.

Oh dear, not such a leftie audience this time.

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 08:56 PM
It's bloody diabolical Joey.
Total disgrace, I think whoever gets in next, we need to campaign against this.

Absolutely right.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 08:57 PM
The standards of questioning for both has been really poor.
Dimbleby poking in all the time prolonging points is very distracting too.

Too much time spent on brexit, then daft terrorism questions to Corbyn which we all know the answers to.

Brillopad
02-06-2017, 08:57 PM
Rubbish he is buying young votes.

Brillopad
02-06-2017, 08:59 PM
Anyone up for Farron and Sturgeon - think I'll give that one a miss!

reece(:
02-06-2017, 09:00 PM
Farron should be a laugh on Sunday

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 09:01 PM
Really,Dimbleby needs to step down on these programmes.
He said at the start the questions weren't known beforehand but for me were easy to predict what they would be,most of them anyway.

Scarlett.
02-06-2017, 09:03 PM
Too much of Corbyn's time was taken up by the silly nuclear weapons stuff, which is the least likely thing to happen during a PM's term.

smudgie
02-06-2017, 09:03 PM
Best debate so far.
Both managed to get their answers out without heckling. So we heard more from them both.
Dimbleby is far superior to Paxman.

Scarlett.
02-06-2017, 09:04 PM
Best debate so far.
Both managed to get their answers out without heckling. So we heard more from them both.
Dimbleby is far superior to Paxman.

Paxman was once good til he started believing his own hype.

Brillopad
02-06-2017, 09:04 PM
Best debate so far.
Both managed to get their answers out without heckling. So we heard more from them both.
Dimbleby is far superior to Paxman.

Agreed smudgie.

smudgie
02-06-2017, 09:06 PM
Paxman was once good til he started believing his own hype.

True. I used to like his no nonsense approach, shame he has lost it now.

Brother Leon
02-06-2017, 09:07 PM
870746562238058497

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 09:19 PM
I do wish someone would have raised the fox hunting issue though,it looks like no one cares about it and they do.

DemolitionRed
02-06-2017, 09:20 PM
ASDA too Smudgie,the ASDA near me has put all staff on 16 hour contracts and also uses zero hours ones too.

This is why employment levels have dropped. If you include night workers, Asda needs four times as many staff as they did before. Less employment but more people working less hours on zero hour contracts.

Scarlett.
02-06-2017, 09:21 PM
I don't think people realise after the first nuke goes off, we're already ****ed, by that point it doesn't really matter what happens next, there's a reason the doomsday clock is so close to midnight.

DemolitionRed
02-06-2017, 09:25 PM
I don't think people realise after the first nuke goes off, we're already ****ed, by that point it doesn't really matter what happens next, there's a reason the doomsday clock is so close to midnight.

I agree but then I'm totally for dismantling Trident. If NK sends a nuke our way and in return we send a nuke their way. None of us will be here to know if our nuke got to its destination.

The more of the world that doesn't get nuked, the more likely our world will survive and our animals won't become extinct. If humans want to play war games at the expense of our wildlife, I want no part of it.

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 09:28 PM
I do wish someone would have raised the fox hunting issue though,it looks like no one cares about it and they do.

Probably the freevote element Kazanne.
I don't recall although I was only 9 at the time, Tony Blair and Labour being pressed on it in 2001 as to their freevote to banning it.

Of course had Dimbleby shut up more, more questions maybe could have been got asked.

joeysteele
02-06-2017, 09:30 PM
Best debate so far.
Both managed to get their answers out without heckling. So we heard more from them both.
Dimbleby is far superior to Paxman.

Oh gosh,I can't stand Paxman either.
His questioning of both was really pathetic.

reece(:
02-06-2017, 09:40 PM
870746562238058497

:joker::joker::joker:

Kazanne
02-06-2017, 10:30 PM
Probably the freevote element Kazanne.
I don't recall although I was only 9 at the time, Tony Blair and Labour being pressed on it in 2001 as to their freevote to banning it.

Of course had Dimbleby shut up more, more questions maybe could have been got asked.

It was a shame,I was looking forward to some explanantion,

Northern Monkey
02-06-2017, 11:03 PM
Best debate so far.
Both managed to get their answers out without heckling. So we heard more from them both.
Dimbleby is far superior to Paxman.

Yeah pretty much

Greg!
02-06-2017, 11:07 PM
Jez won despite the moronic questions about trident x

Kizzy
02-06-2017, 11:19 PM
Isn't it pathetic how they use his dislike of nukes as a stick to beat him with?

James
02-06-2017, 11:27 PM
I didn't watch it, but did they bring up Corbyn's dislike of NATO too?

Wizard.
02-06-2017, 11:49 PM
I didn't watch it, but did they bring up Corbyn's dislike of NATO too?

No they didn't.

If we're going to revert to insults then "Jezza" needed a kitchen role to wipe off the sweat from his brow after the nuclear weapons and IRA questions which his supporters seem to ignore and stick up for him for - refusing to answer a question is pathetic and now I don't want his 73 year old crusty ass running this country by the time the next parliament ends - clearly showed he is not fit to be Prime Minister and thank God we can get rid of him next week! Go back to your allotment and stick to growing veg and leave the big decisions to the capable and not the socialists.

Jack_
03-06-2017, 12:14 AM
Unfortunately the PM came across well despite as usual skirting around questions with Crosby's soundbites.

I wish Jeremy would just say he'd press the button in retaliation, I admire his lifelong belief but we have so many bloodthirsty ****ing dolts in this country who are oblivious to the fact that if anyone uses a nuclear weapon, that is it for humanity, and tit-for-tat retaliation is futile.

Where's the accusations of right wing bias in this audience I wonder? :rolleyes:

lostalex
03-06-2017, 12:21 AM
Corbyn has some good ideals (ideals, not ideas), but he is not qualified to lead.

Jack_
03-06-2017, 12:25 AM
And neither is Mrs Weak and Wobbly.

I may have deplored the pig ****er's policies (though certainly not as much as hers), but at least he was statesmanlike.

Jack_
03-06-2017, 12:27 AM
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Northern Monkey
03-06-2017, 03:40 AM
Nobody wants a nuclear war.They just want to know that the deterrent is actually working as a deterrent.Having a PM who says he wouldn't use it is not a deterrent.

Jack_
03-06-2017, 04:08 AM
For the avoidance of doubt, Janey Godley is joking

MTVN
03-06-2017, 05:52 AM
That was the most rattled Corbyn has been in his televised appearances this campaign, you could tell he was actually struggling to keep his cool there when he refused to respond to one of the audience members entirely

Brillopad
03-06-2017, 07:53 AM
That was the most rattled Corbyn has been in his televised appearances this campaign, you could tell he was actually struggling to keep his cool there when he refused to respond to one of the audience members entirely

Very true.

Brillopad
03-06-2017, 07:56 AM
Nobody wants a nuclear war.They just want to know that the deterrent is actually working as a deterrent.Having a PM who says he wouldn't use it is not a deterrent.

That is what is scary. The fact he seems to lack understanding of how dangerous saying or implying that is. He might as well stick a bl**dy great bullseye on Britain. I really do wonder at his motives - is he really that stupid!

DemolitionRed
03-06-2017, 08:18 AM
That was the most rattled Corbyn has been in his televised appearances this campaign, you could tell he was actually struggling to keep his cool there when he refused to respond to one of the audience members entirely

I didn't hear that audience member actually ask him a question.

joeysteele
03-06-2017, 08:35 AM
Corbyn did respond, he answered of course not but that wasn't enough for the likely Con warmonger in the audience.
Where in earth is the logic of demanding someone to push a button to wipe out millions of people and even Nations.
What a crazy obsession that is to me.
Nuclear weapons we get told,if countries have them,help ensure they won't be used.
That's fine and that's Labour policy to have them.

For me the cost is obscene to have them but there it is.
Corbyn however, who has been against them all his political life simply stood true to that stance.

He could have blatantly lied and made life far easier for himself,by simply saying yes he would use them as a first strike.
He didn't and stayed true to his by conviction as to the nuclear issue.
Sorry but I admire that, I don't want trigger happy warmongers with their finger on such a button either.
The question was a waste of time as we have had this for years since Corbyn was elected leader anyway.

Both got poor questions but again, to that Nurse being paid the same now as she was in 2009, the lack of empathy from Mrs May on that and patronising stating they had to make hard decisions was really awful.

How can reducing taxes for the well off already be justified if hard decisions did need to be made.

I think this Q&A session,not a debate, revealed nothing we didn't already know.
Really though,the nuclear issue I knew would be raised and for me it is time to start thinking seriously about these earth destroying weapons.

Someone somewhere has to start doing something else as to trying to decrease the quantity of them in the World, talking very important and the Iran decision is at least a promising possible start.

Now it may not be that Corbyn is the one to get anything going as to reducing nuclear weapons,however for sure a trigger happy warmongering,interfering govt like this present govt. is certainly not the best likely choice either.

Tony Blair sadly went down the international domination and interfering Road,making things worse.
This govt. as to Libya and now Syria again making near similar big errors of interference and involvement.

Perhaps a govt.more concerned at dealing with UK home issues rather than playing too big in conflicts in other areas of the World, may be a better way to gain more respect by earning it,rather than trying to demand it by force.

joeysteele
03-06-2017, 08:39 AM
I didn't hear that audience member actually ask him a question.

The question had been asked as to N Korea,the same questioner wasn't bothered we gave funds to N Korea though which Mrs May was pulled up on.
Corbyn answered, ''of course not''.

There was a further comment,not a question, which Corbyn let pass.
Nothing Corbyn was going to say would have satisfied that fool in the audience and his obsession with using nuclear weapons first.

Kizzy
03-06-2017, 09:22 AM
I'm inclined to believe those audience questions were not genuine, my reasoning behind this is that on every chat show, interview and debate that has occurred since the election was announced Corbyn has been asked the same questions...If these people are so interested in politics surely they have heard his reply and his reasonings by now?

Why too are the general public less interested in domestic policies hand how good the candidates are at aiding the electorate, supporting the elderly, children, workers and the environment and more interested in how he intends to annihilate people?.... :/

Ask yourself logically, how plausible is this continued rhetoric, I'm not surprised he looked strained he knew these were dupes.

Brillopad
03-06-2017, 09:38 AM
I'm inclined to believe those audience questions were not genuine, my reasoning behind this is that on every chat show, interview and debate that has occurred since the election was announced Corbyn has been asked the same questions...If these people are so interested in politics surely they have heard his reply and his reasonings by now?

Why too are the general public less interested in domestic policies hand how good the candidates are at aiding the electorate, supporting the elderly, children, workers and the environment and more interested in how he intends to annihilate people?.... :/

Ask yourself logically, how plausible is this continued rhetoric, I'm not surprised he looked strained he knew these were dupes.

Because it's not much good having good domestic policies if it could all be gone in a cloud of dust is it.

Security should be at the top of the priority list in these dangerous times. What does it take for people to realise what a dangerous world we live in, how under threat we are - how big a target the UK would be. :shrug:

DemolitionRed
03-06-2017, 09:41 AM
I'm inclined to believe those audience questions were not genuine, my reasoning behind this is that on every chat show, interview and debate that has occurred since the election was announced Corbyn has been asked the same questions...If these people are so interested in politics surely they have heard his reply and his reasonings by now?

Why too are the general public less interested in domestic policies hand how good the candidates are at aiding the electorate, supporting the elderly, children, workers and the environment and more interested in how he intends to annihilate people?.... :/

Ask yourself logically, how plausible is this continued rhetoric, I'm not surprised he looked strained he knew these were dupes.

That same thought crossed my mind last night.

Why did nobody in the audience ask May about the Naylor report which firmly points out that the £billions promised for the NHS is going towards the sell off and not towards re-stabilization of our medical system ?

Ok, I excuse people for not knowing about the Naylor report but many of us know about the privatization of the NHS and so far, throughout all of these questions and debates, I haven't seen anyone ask questions about it.

Kizzy
03-06-2017, 10:40 AM
Because it's not much good having good domestic policies if it could all be gone in a cloud of dust is it.

Security should be at the top of the priority list in these dangerous times. What does it take for people to realise what a dangerous world we live in, how under threat we are - how big a target the UK would be. :shrug:

Why... Why us, why would the other nuclear countries target us?

What are you so scared of ...who are you so scared of?

joeysteele
03-06-2017, 11:02 AM
Unfortunately the PM came across well despite as usual skirting around questions with Crosby's soundbites.

I wish Jeremy would just say he'd press the button in retaliation, I admire his lifelong belief but we have so many bloodthirsty ****ing dolts in this country who are oblivious to the fact that if anyone uses a nuclear weapon, that is it for humanity, and tit-for-tat retaliation is futile.

Where's the accusations of right wing bias in this audience I wonder? :rolleyes:


I agree with all that again.

There is an intolerance to.the word peace being more used as to real security
With a bloodthirsty element among voters of would you use nuclear against this one,that one or anyone.
That likely war obsessed to the extreme notwithstanding in the audience pressing Corbyn to say why he would not press a first strike nuclear assault,spoke volumes.

Within my own family,we were pro nuclear but slowly the feeling has cemented,as you clearly point out Jack_,once anyone starts to use them,that is it.
If there as a deterrent but not to be used means they are not well and good.

Honestly though seriously,surely trying to dismantle the evil weapons is far more credible and someone somewhere leading a Nation needs to try at least to begin that process.

I think Corbyn could get heard,he may not achieve total dismantling but this obsession with a leader should or be made to press the button is sheer madness.
Once it happens it will become a free for all with full fatal devastation for the whole human race.

No rhyme or reason to it whatsoever.

Kizzy
03-06-2017, 11:05 AM
Why not make friends with France again? They're 25 miles away.... they have one, we could borrow theirs :)

Brillopad
03-06-2017, 02:33 PM
Why... Why us, why would the other nuclear countries target us?

What are you so scared of ...who are you so scared of?

Those who don't understand the power of the deterrent factor or the likely effect of telling the world you would never press that button.

The not knowing is what helps keep us safe.

Northern Monkey
03-06-2017, 03:45 PM
I would love for a multilateral disarmament of nuclear weapons worldwide.I think everyone would.
However unilateral disarmament is not an option.
There is a power balance accross the world now.
There are two sides and both sides have to maintain that balance to keep the peace.
That's why Russia are so against missile defence systems in Eastern Europe.
It imbalances global stability if one side is more powerful than the other.
If for instance the UK,France and Israel disarmed then it would leave Russia,China and North Korea in a slightly strategically advantageous position.
If America disarmed then Russia would be in the position to invade the baltic states and take them back under Russian influence.
Countries can't just start taking it up on themselves to unilaterally disarm.
It has to be done globally.