View Full Version : Diane Abbott maybe would'nt get home secretary job if Labour won?
Northern Monkey
06-06-2017, 09:20 AM
She recently had another embarrassing interview on Sky News and now is backing out of events saying she's ill.
Sky were speculating that Labour have been trying to keep her off the airwaves before the election.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/3731086/shadow-home-secretary-diane-abbott-car-crash-interview-sky-police-security-london-bridge-attacks-terror/amp/
Honestly if she was'nt going to get the position i would be much more confident about my Labour vote.
Could it be a possibility?
Northern Monkey
06-06-2017, 09:23 AM
'VERBAL DIARRHOEA Diane Abbott pulls out of BBC election debate at the last minute after being ‘taken ill’ following disastrous interview on terror after London Bridge attack
Radio 4 confirm Shadow Home Secretary will not appear on Women’s Hour this morning with Labour replacing her with Emily Thornberry
But Ms Abbott’s no-show comes off the back of her toe-curling experience opposite presenter Dermot Murnaghan last night.'
'She was left red-faced when she failed to answer a single question on a series of recommendations to keep the capital safer from terrorists 48 hours on from the London bridge attack.'
joeysteele
06-06-2017, 09:41 AM
There's never assured positions, it may be a reshuffle would be done by Corbyn.
There is speculation Mrs May will be doing one,possibly even moving the Chancellor too who has been markedly absent near all through this campaign.
I doubt Abbott would be Home Secretary actually,I'm not that sure she even would mind not being so.
In light of the terrorist attacks,Corbyn and other Parties are re assessing plans.
It's like all Parties saying no deals if there's a hung parliament.
There'd have to be to govern.
However elections throw up odd situations, I think it more likely than not that Abbott would not be Home Secretary.
Kizzy
06-06-2017, 10:52 AM
'VERBAL DIARRHOEA Diane Abbott pulls out of BBC election debate at the last minute after being ‘taken ill’ following disastrous interview on terror after London Bridge attack
Radio 4 confirm Shadow Home Secretary will not appear on Women’s Hour this morning with Labour replacing her with Emily Thornberry
But Ms Abbott’s no-show comes off the back of her toe-curling experience opposite presenter Dermot Murnaghan last night.'
'She was left red-faced when she failed to answer a single question on a series of recommendations to keep the capital safer from terrorists 48 hours on from the London bridge attack.'
What a disgusting descriptor, is this a news item?
She never seems that prepared for interview and when it's with the more hostile to Labour stations really she does need to be particularly on the ball.
Leave it to Thornberry, Gardener and Sarah Champion, she was amazing here..
http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2017/05/10/watch-this-interview-with-sarah-champion-that-shows-labour-is-a-government-in-waiting/
Northern Monkey
06-06-2017, 11:06 AM
What a disgusting descriptor, is this a news item?
She never seems that prepared for interview and when it's with the more hostile to Labour stations really she does need to be particularly on the ball.
Leave it to Thornberry, Gardener and Sarah Champion, she was amazing here..
http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2017/05/10/watch-this-interview-with-sarah-champion-that-shows-labour-is-a-government-in-waiting/
Yes,From one of the more highbrow media publications
:laugh:
Oh and Sky News were discussing it.
Kizzy
06-06-2017, 11:27 AM
Would she do better than the home secretary we have now?... Who could do worse might be a better question :laugh:
Better to trip up than outright lie.
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Jeremy cant get enough of diane and her positions.
Kizzy
06-06-2017, 12:18 PM
Jeremy cant get enough of diane and her positions.
Who doesn't love the missionary position?
smudgie
06-06-2017, 12:28 PM
Oh dear.:joker:
The woman is a ruddy joke.
The more interviews she does the better.
Thought they had grounded her since her dropping Corbyn in it on his IRA dealings.:laugh:
Kizzy
06-06-2017, 12:31 PM
Have we to focus on may and her Saudi dealings as a counter?..
Kazanne
06-06-2017, 12:33 PM
Oh dear.:joker:
The woman is a ruddy joke.
The more interviews she does the better.
Thought they had grounded her since her dropping Corbyn in it on his IRA dealings.:laugh:
Watch this bounce back to May,lol
Tom4784
06-06-2017, 12:47 PM
Watch this bounce back to May,lol
Well if you're going to criticise Labour for something then you have to expect that the Tories will also be criticised if they are also guilty of the same things. That's generally how discussions work, Kazanne.
Kizzy
06-06-2017, 12:51 PM
Yes let's get some perspective, corbyn attended a march in 1984 where some IRA members might have been present .... and may directly funding terrorism now (allegedly)?
:/
smudgie
06-06-2017, 12:53 PM
Theresa May, as the Prime Minister, has dealings with the Saudis, they are our allies, helping us to reduce the amount of terrorist attacks in this country with their intelligence.
On the other hand, Jeremy Corbyn fraternised with and supported the enemy, the same enemy that was blowing up innocent men, women and children not only in Northern Ireland but in the cities of England.
We are not at war with Saudi, the IRA were at war with us.
Quite a difference in circumstances.
Brillopad
06-06-2017, 01:02 PM
Corbyn and Abbott - talk about a disaster waiting to happen. Man the blockades.
Kizzy
06-06-2017, 01:03 PM
Theresa May, as the Prime Minister, has dealings with the Saudis, they are our allies, helping us to reduce the amount of terrorist attacks in this country with their intelligence.
On the other hand, Jeremy Corbyn fraternised with and supported the enemy, the same enemy that was blowing up innocent men, women and children not only in Northern Ireland but in the cities of England.
We are not at war with Saudi, the IRA were at war with us.
Quite a difference in circumstances.
They are not our friends.
'Saudi Arabia is also the regime that threatened the UK with “another 7/7” and the loss of “British lives on British streets” in 2006, according to court documents. Prince Bandar, the head of the Saudi national security council at the time, allegedly threatened to withhold intelligence if UK investigators didn’t drop a corruption investigation into the regime’s arms deals.'
Meanwhile, the Tories are delaying the release of the findings of an inquiry into the foreign funding of extremists. The government said it would release the findings in 2016. But now, Theresa May’s government says it won’t make it public until after the election. And a Home Office spokesperson admitted that officials may never publish it due to its “very sensitive” contents.'
'People suspect that the report focuses on Saudi Arabia. Mainly because the state ideology of the kingdom – Wahhabism – is the same one that inspires groups like Daesh (Isis/Isil). And the country has spent approximately $100bn spreading this ideology around the world. At the same time, members of the country’s elite have long supported extremist groups.'
https://www.thecanary.co/2017/06/05/tories-caught-taking-cash-regime-threatened-uk-another-77/
Northern Monkey
06-06-2017, 01:20 PM
That's weird.The Sun has now taken that article down that linked and copy pasted.Wonder if they got in trouble for it or something?
Kizzy
06-06-2017, 01:33 PM
That's weird.The Sun has now taken that article down that linked and copy pasted.Wonder if they got in trouble for it or something?
I reported it... :hehe: Joking :hee:
Vicky.
06-06-2017, 02:39 PM
I hope to ****ing god she wouldn't she should be sacked fullstop. She is an embarrassment and always has been.
Northern Monkey
06-06-2017, 03:05 PM
I reported it... :hehe: Joking :hee:
It wouldn't surprise me....
Who doesn't love the missionary position?
Probably jeremy as he bared down on her.
Northern Monkey
06-06-2017, 05:38 PM
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It would be a wise move if they got rid of her.
If Hillary Benn was leader, I'd maybe vote labour. I just don't trust the people they have in the shadow cabinet. I don't trust May and her cabinet either, but she's more middle ground, than partisan on one side.
joeysteele
06-06-2017, 05:50 PM
Theresa May, as the Prime Minister, has dealings with the Saudis, they are our allies, helping us to reduce the amount of terrorist attacks in this country with their intelligence.
On the other hand, Jeremy Corbyn fraternised with and supported the enemy, the same enemy that was blowing up innocent men, women and children not only in Northern Ireland but in the cities of England.
We are not at war with Saudi, the IRA were at war with us.
Quite a difference in circumstances.
You see the Saudi's as allies. I wouldn't trust Saudi one inch.
smudgie
06-06-2017, 06:17 PM
You see the Saudi's as allies. I wouldn't trust Saudi one inch.
It has nothing to do with what I see.
It is the standing we are in at this present time.:shrug:
They are classed as allies.
smudgie
06-06-2017, 06:18 PM
It would be a wise move if they got rid of her.
If Hillary Benn was leader, I'd maybe vote labour. I just don't trust the people they have in the shadow cabinet. I don't trust May and her cabinet either, but she's more middle ground, than partisan on one side.
Indeed.
Nothing more I could add to that really.
Theresa May, as the Prime Minister, has dealings with the Saudis, they are our allies, helping us to reduce the amount of terrorist attacks in this country with their intelligence.
On the other hand, Jeremy Corbyn fraternised with and supported the enemy, the same enemy that was blowing up innocent men, women and children not only in Northern Ireland but in the cities of England.
We are not at war with Saudi, the IRA were at war with us.
Quite a difference in circumstances.
Well said
Let's not forget that Corbyn's past dealings are not isolated incidents but very frequent ones throughout his career. Here's the latest that Guido Fawkes have exposed today: https://order-order.com/2017/06/06/corbyn-addressed-hundreds-of-al-muhajiroun-members-at-rally/
Jeremy Corbyn addressed a rally including hundreds of members of the banned extremist group Al-Muhajiroun, Guido can reveal. In May 2002 Corbyn gave a speech at a highly controversial anti-Israel demo at Trafalgar Square, attended by former terrorists and supporters of Hezbollah. A contemporaneous report by the communist Weekly Worker newspaper says up to 300 members of Al-Muhajiroun were present. The newspaper reported that some were dressed as mock suicide bombers and others chanted “gas, gas Tel Aviv”. This is from the extraordinary Weekly Worker* report:
“Al Muhajiroun held placards reading ‘Palestine is Muslim’. They chanted, “Skud, Skud Israel” and “Gas, gas Tel Aviv”, along with their support for bin Laden. Two would-be suicide posers were dressed in combat fatigues with a ‘bomb’ strapped to their waists. This section accounted for no more than 200-300, but they made a noise far out of proportion to their numbers… The rally was also addressed by Labour MPs Jeremy Corbyn and George Galloway.”
Al-Muhajiroun is a proscribed terrorist organisation which was led by the infamous radical Islamists Omar Bakri Muhammad and the jailed Anjem Choudary. Several of its members have committed terrorist attacks and the group has been linked to the 7/7 bombings, the murder of Lee Rigby as well as dozens of other attacks and plots. London Bridge attacker Khuram Butt was a supporter of Al-Muhajiroun. What was Corbyn doing anywhere near them, let alone addressing an audience which included 300 of their members?
*The Weekly Worker is pro-Corbyn so this cannot be a “smear from the Tory press”.
This is the sort of company he has kept over the last 30 years
DemolitionRed
06-06-2017, 07:10 PM
Well said
Let's not forget that Corbyn's past dealings are not isolated incidents but very frequent ones throughout his career. Here's the latest that Guido Fawkes have exposed today: https://order-order.com/2017/06/06/corbyn-addressed-hundreds-of-al-muhajiroun-members-at-rally/
This is the sort of company he has kept over the last 30 years
And yet so many British Jews are fully supporting Corbyn. Strange that eh!
And yet so many British Jews are fully supporting Corbyn. Strange that eh!
Not that many. The Conservatives have a huge lead amongst Jews. This was the front page of the biggest UK Jewish newspaper a few days ago
https://i0.wp.com/order-order.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/jewish.jpg?w=514&ssl=1
Kizzy
06-06-2017, 08:22 PM
Not that many. The Conservatives have a huge lead amongst Jews. This was the front page of the biggest UK Jewish newspaper a few days ago
https://i0.wp.com/order-order.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/jewish.jpg?w=514&ssl=1
Could this have anything to do with Palestine?
Yes I'm sure it has much to do with Palestine and the Islamists that many on the far left side with in that conflict
Shaun
06-06-2017, 08:31 PM
She needs replacing, to be honest.
Kizzy
06-06-2017, 08:32 PM
Yes I'm sure it has much to do with Palestine and the Islamists that many on the far left side with in that conflict
Receipts?
Receipts?
Reference: the political career of Jeremy Corbyn
Kizzy
06-06-2017, 08:39 PM
Reference: the political career of Jeremy Corbyn
Dear me :laugh:
jaxie
06-06-2017, 11:16 PM
Diane Abbot was dreadful on sky news she clearly had no idea what she was talking about while claiming to have read the report. The thought of her as home secretary or any other prominent role is really worrying. Why do they keep sending her to do interviews? It's embarrassing.
jaxie
06-06-2017, 11:23 PM
It would be a wise move if they got rid of her.
If Hillary Benn was leader, I'd maybe vote labour. I just don't trust the people they have in the shadow cabinet. I don't trust May and her cabinet either, but she's more middle ground, than partisan on one side.
I'd be very tempted by Labour if Hilary Benn were leader.
Vicky.
07-06-2017, 10:13 AM
Looks like no, she wouldn't :laugh: From the news today
Withano
07-06-2017, 10:17 AM
She does come across daft tbf. (Get her on cbb?)
Northern Monkey
07-06-2017, 10:26 AM
Looks like no, she wouldn't :laugh: From the news today
Thank feck.It will only do Labour goood
Thank feck.It will only do Labour goood
Well, she has not stood down permanently, she could recover from her illness on Friday and take up her position. Who is her replacement, what are her views, so many questions. Its a very strange set of circumstances to occur on the final day of polling.
Of course, i do wish Dianne a speedy recovery, I don't think she is the right person for the job, but I wouldn't wish any illness on her either.
Vicky.
07-06-2017, 10:46 AM
Well, she has not stood down permanently, she could recover from her illness on Friday and take up her position. Who is her replacement, what are her views, so many questions. Its a very strange set of circumstances to occur on the final day of polling.
Of course, i do wish Dianne a speedy recovery, I don't think she is the right person for the job, but I wouldn't wish any illness on her either.
I honestly think this 'replaced due to ill health' thing is absolute bollocks. Its a nice way of saying she has been sacked from that position.
DemolitionRed
07-06-2017, 12:49 PM
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/814057/Lyn-Brown-who-is-MP-replace-Diane-Abbott-shadow-home-secretary-quit-Jeremy-Corbyn-cabinet#ampshare=http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/814057/Lyn-Brown-who-is-MP-replace-Diane-Abbott-shadow-home-secretary-quit-Jeremy-Corbyn-cabinet
Here is an article about Lyn Brown - the politician who is taking over the role. She has an impressive CV having held several top jobs during the past 10 years.
Northern Monkey
07-06-2017, 12:49 PM
Well, she has not stood down permanently, she could recover from her illness on Friday and take up her position. Who is her replacement, what are her views, so many questions. Its a very strange set of circumstances to occur on the final day of polling.
Of course, i do wish Dianne a speedy recovery, I don't think she is the right person for the job, but I wouldn't wish any illness on her either.
Yeah true,Lets just hope he has more sense than to put her in any position of responsibility.Although they've been good pals for years apparently.
And obvs I wouldn't wish abbott any ill health just don't want her in government.
Welcome back btw.You've been missed around these parts
Northern Monkey
07-06-2017, 12:51 PM
I honestly think this 'replaced due to ill health' thing is absolute bollocks. Its a nice way of saying she has been sacked from that position.
I think it's either stress or damage limitation from Jezzas advisors
DemolitionRed
07-06-2017, 12:53 PM
Yes I'm sure it has much to do with Palestine and the Islamists that many on the far left side with in that conflict
That's a bit unfair. Anti-Zionist Jews and and anti-Zionist people just don't side with the Zionists (Jewish or not). You don't have to be far left to disagree with what Israel is doing to Palestine.
Vicky.
07-06-2017, 01:54 PM
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/814057/Lyn-Brown-who-is-MP-replace-Diane-Abbott-shadow-home-secretary-quit-Jeremy-Corbyn-cabinet#ampshare=http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/814057/Lyn-Brown-who-is-MP-replace-Diane-Abbott-shadow-home-secretary-quit-Jeremy-Corbyn-cabinet
Here is an article about Lyn Brown - the politician who is taking over the role. She has an impressive CV having held several top jobs during the past 10 years.
Much like labours Brexit secretary Sir Keir Starmer then? The guy everyone forgets about when May starts bleating on about how its her or Corbyn to be doing the negotiations. Its Keirs job, not Corbyns.
hijaxers
07-06-2017, 02:02 PM
She recently had another embarrassing interview on Sky News and now is backing out of events saying she's ill.
Sky were speculating that Labour have been trying to keep her off the airwaves before the election.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/3731086/shadow-home-secretary-diane-abbott-car-crash-interview-sky-police-security-london-bridge-attacks-terror/amp/
Honestly if she was'nt going to get the position i would be much more confident about my Labour vote.
Could it be a possibility?
Well i really think she is unwell , never liked her as i can never understand a word she says but she been very peculiar lately.
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