Some Tory said the Young won't get out bed to vote

[Cherie]

Does he realise the polls are open until 10pm :laugh:

I think they will, they got their arses kicked over Brexit

[smudgie]

Does he realise the polls are open until 10pm :laugh:

I think they will, they got their arses kicked over Brexit

Silly beggar.:joker:

[Vicky.]

I hope they do. But yes what a stupid thing to say.

I really do hope the Brexit vote inspires more youngsters to actually vote, whoever they vote for. They clearly thought their vote didn't matter, and it has been proven that it really does. Its them who is going to have to live with the Brexit vote, long after most leave voters have shuffled off the mortal coil :(

(My parents voted leave, so no thats not an insult or me wishing death on people or anything before I am reported...simply the sad truth)

[Braden]

I'm getting one of my best friend's to vote for the first time tomorrow. I'm literally frantically texting people to make sure that they're voting :p

[Jack_]

Unfortunately, as twatty as he is, I think he's in part correct.

I don't know, I'm just not buying that the youth turnout is going to be significantly more than it has been before. Some of the closer polls like YouGov and Survation are utilising a weighting that implies a youth turnout of around 80%, that is absurd. I think it'll be higher than 2015 but lower than the EU referendum.

I hope I'm wrong of course, if there's anything that should inspire young people to come out and vote it's a) this manifesto, b) how battered we're going to be by the next Tory government and c) how we've all been shafted by Brexit. Anecdotally I've certainly noticed more political engagement on my social media from people I haven't seen talk politics before (as well as a couple of switches from UKIP to Labour), and indeed a huge pouring of outcry in wake of the result last year, but I just refuse to believe it's going to have any dramatic effect on turnout or the outcome. It's going to rain in many places tomorrow too, it's as if everything is against us :rolleyes:

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if the overall turnout is down a percentage point or two, the appetite for this election just isn't there. The infamous Brenda from Bristol's vox pop probably sums up a lot of people's thoughts to be honest.

[Withano]

Is it usually that late?

[reece(:]

I actually think the young are more active in politics than they ever have been through social media.

[Cherie]

Is it usually that late?

Always

[Toy Soldier]

I actually think the young are more active in politics than they ever have been through social media.
I agree, I do think 80% is a high estimate but from what I've seen, young people are more politically aware and active than ever. Out of my shop team of 8 people, age range 23 to 62, the only one other than me with any real interest at all in politics and who will engage in a political discussion, is the 23 year old. The rest, there's a mixture of simple disinterest, and long-earned apathy.

I think what he means is that he HOPES young voters won't get out of bed and vote, perhaps?

[T*]

i'm not voting tomorrow :amazed:

[Vicky.]

I actually think the young are more active in politics than they ever have been through social media.

If the vote could be done online, there would be a near 100% voting rate among youngsters my brother said (he is one of these youngsters, at 20)

And hes possibly right. BUT...its a sad state of affairs really when something as important as voting was not done simply because its a bit of a walk to tick a box on an actual piece of paper instead of merely clicking a button :/

[Toy Soldier]

If the vote could be done online, there would be a near 100% voting rate among youngsters my brother said (he is one of these youngsters, at 20)

And hes possibly right. BUT...its a sad state of affairs really when something as important as voting was not done simply because its a bit of a walk to tick a box on an actual piece of paper instead of merely clicking a button :/
I think there's a good point there though, the general location of voting centres has the potential to actually influence voting demographics? For example, the village I live in, the voting centre is right next to the primary school so pretty much every parent will vote because it's right there on the school run.

The town I work in, the voting centre is in the middle of town, which is somewhere most local young people frankly just don't go. The town centre is nothing but cafes, charity shops and (lolz) bookies. Older generations still float about the town but young people would be going more out if their way. Very few who live here actually work here either, so it's not like the centre is on the way to / from work or on lunch break.

[Brillopad]

If the vote could be done online, there would be a near 100% voting rate among youngsters my brother said (he is one of these youngsters, at 20)

And hes possibly right. BUT...its a sad state of affairs really when something as important as voting was not done simply because its a bit of a walk to tick a box on an actual piece of paper instead of merely clicking a button :/

Maybe the young should get walking on those healthy young legs of theirs. If the oldies can do it then shame on them.

[Cherie]

Maybe the young should get walking on those healthy young legs of theirs. If the oldies can do it then shame on them.

Oh Brillo you are awful :hehe:

[Cherie]

I think there's a good point there though, the general location of voting centres has the potential to actually influence voting demographics? For example, the village I live in, the voting centre is right next to the primary school so pretty much every parent will vote because it's right there on the school run.

The town I work in, the voting centre is in the middle of town, which is somewhere most local young people frankly just don't go. The town centre is nothing but cafes, charity shops and (lolz) bookies. Older generations still float about the town but young people would be going more out if their way. Very few who live here actually work here either, so it's not like the centre is on the way to / from work or on lunch break.

That's why the polls are open from 7am until 10, that is the weakest excuse ever sorry, it's once in 5 years generally that they have "to go out of their way" the poor things

[Brillopad]

Oh Brillo you are awful :hehe:

:laugh:

[Toy Soldier]

That's why the polls are open from 7am until 10, that is the weakest excuse ever sorry, it's once in 5 years generally that they have "to go out of their way" the poor things

You're saying "the poor things" as though it's only the young... there's voter apathy across the board :shrug:. Some people (of all ages) will be sure to vote, other people (of all ages) will only vote if they happen to be passing anyway. Not saying it's a good excuse, but it's the truth. And I was simply wondering if older people are more likely to be in the vicinity of their polling centre during their day-to-day business than younger people, as I have observed that young people are less likely to be in and around their local town centre.

[Vicky.]

I think there's a good point there though, the general location of voting centres has the potential to actually influence voting demographics? For example, the village I live in, the voting centre is right next to the primary school so pretty much every parent will vote because it's right there on the school run.

The town I work in, the voting centre is in the middle of town, which is somewhere most local young people frankly just don't go. The town centre is nothing but cafes, charity shops and (lolz) bookies. Older generations still float about the town but young people would be going more out if their way. Very few who live here actually work here either, so it's not like the centre is on the way to / from work or on lunch break.
Hmm I dunno. It might do. But voting is so important that really even if its in a area you don't frequent, you should make the effort to go there. But yeah I guess where the station is could influence it a bit.

I thought there were loads of centres everywhere? I live in the middle of nowhere and even my little village has 3 polling stations. Our local town has like 10

Gavins sons school is closed as it is a polling station too.

[Cherie]

You're saying "the poor things" as though it's only the young... there's voter apathy across the board :shrug:. Some people (of all ages) will be sure to vote, other people (of all ages) will only vote if they happen to be passing anyway. Not saying it's a good excuse, but it's the truth. And I was simply wondering if older people are more likely to be in the vicinity of their polling centre during their day-to-day business than younger people, as I have observed that young people are less likely to be in and around their local town centre.

You were musing about why the young mightn't vote, I was responding to your point, voter apathy is a different debate

[Toy Soldier]

Hmm I dunno. It might do. But voting is so important that really even if its in a area you don't frequent, you should make the effort to go there. But yeah I guess where the station is could influence it a bit.

I thought there were loads of centres everywhere? I live in the middle of nowhere and even my little village has 3 polling stations. Our local town has like 10

Gavins sons school is closed as it is a polling station too.

My village (pop. 2500) only has one and I'm pretty sure the town only has one large one too... I might be wrong there, though.

Like I said above though, I know that everyone *should* make the effort to go out of their way to vote but, unfortunately, not everyone does. That applies to all age groups, too.

[Toy Soldier]

You were musing about why the young mightn't vote, I was responding to your point, voter apathy is a different debate

I was saying that there are different types of voters; those who will make SURE to vote and those who will pop in to vote IF they happen to be near their polling station anyway.

Then mused that older generations MIGHT be "more likely to be near their polling station anyway".

It's not that complicated, is it? :umm2:...

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Im working 7 - 8 so will have to vote in the night time

[Cherie]

I was saying that there are different types of voters; those who will make SURE to vote and those who will pop in to vote IF they happen to be near their polling station anyway.

Then mused that older generations MIGHT be "more likely to be near their polling station anyway".

It's not that complicated, is it? :umm2:...

You are making it a lot more complicated than it needs to be, most people will have a polling station within walking distance of where they live, and we have cars and guess what young parents drop their kids off at school too, so all your scenarios really don't cut it, vote don't vote, but don't not vote and then moan endlessly about the result

[Toy Soldier]

You are making it a lot more complicated than it needs to be, most people will have a polling station within walking distance of where they live, and we have cars and guess what young parents drop their kids off at school too, so all your scenarios really don't cut it, vote don't vote, but don't not vote and then moan endlessly about the result

FFS Cherie I was just vaguely wondering about something not making excuses for people, stop being so combative :fist:. You never used to be like this, I reckon you've been hanging around some bad influences too much :nono:.

[bots]

polling stations always tend to be in local meeting centres, villages halls, schools or whatever. They are designed to be as accessible as possible. There really isn't any excuse not to vote if you are intent on doing so. If you can't be bothered, then don't moan after the event if it didn't go your way.

[Cherie]

FFS Cherie I was just vaguely wondering about something not making excuses for people, stop being so combative :fist:. You never used to be like this, I reckon you've been hanging around some bad influences too much :nono:.

:bawling: sorry I miss Kirk and LT they would normally save me from having to post anything :joker:

[Toy Soldier]

polling stations always tend to be in local meeting centres, villages halls, schools or whatever. They are designed to be as accessible as possible. There really isn't any excuse not to vote if you are intent on doing so. If you can't be bothered, then don't moan after the event if it didn't go your way.

FFS bitontheslide I was just vaguely wondering about something not making excuses for people, stop being so combative :fist:. I don't know if you used to be like this tbh, BUT if not then I reckon you've been hanging around some bad influences too much :nono:.

[Toy Soldier]

:bawling: sorry I miss Kirk and LT they would normally save me from having to post anything :joker:

Kirk has left a gaping hole in my ... heart. And Golden Era LT too, not so much New52 LT though.

[bots]

FFS bitontheslide I was just vaguely wondering about something not making excuses for people, stop being so combative :fist:. I don't know if you used to be like this tbh, BUT if not then I reckon you've been hanging around some bad influences too much :nono:.

i'm TM's bitch :smug:

[Brillopad]

FFS bitontheslide I was just vaguely wondering about something not making excuses for people, stop being so combative :fist:. I don't know if you used to be like this tbh, BUT if not then I reckon you've been hanging around some bad influences too much :nono:.

That combatant nature of yours has spread its wings. You can't complain.

[smudgie]

Hmm I dunno. It might do. But voting is so important that really even if its in a area you don't frequent, you should make the effort to go there. But yeah I guess where the station is could influence it a bit.

I thought there were loads of centres everywhere? I live in the middle of nowhere and even my little village has 3 polling stations. Our local town has like 10

Gavins sons school is closed as it is a polling station too.

Yeah, same here.
Loads of them, ours is 5 minutes up the road.
Mine goes in the postbox whitch is 3 minutes up the road.

[smudgie]

If you give them a ring/text or whatever, they will come and pick you up if you can't make it to the polling station.
Well they used to:shrug:

[Vicky.]

Can you usually only vote at one polling station? I was always under the impression you could do any :S But I have only ever used the one nearest to me so have never had reason to not know this :laugh:

[smudgie]

Can you usually only vote at one polling station? I was always under the impression you could do any :S But I have only ever used the one nearest to me so have never had reason to not know this :laugh:

As far as I am aware you go to the one nearest to you, they have a list with your details on it.
Hence you don't have to have a polling card as long as you are registered.

[Oliver_W]

Even with a high youth turnout, I can't see it making much difference. Isn't Corbyn still the most unpopular in all age groups?

[Oliver_W]

Can you usually only vote at one polling station? I was always under the impression you could do any :S But I have only ever used the one nearest to me so have never had reason to not know this :laugh:

As far as I am aware you go to the one nearest to you, they have a list with your details on it.
Hence you don't have to have a polling card as long as you are registered.

Yeah, you can only vote in your nearest polling station, they have a list of names of people who vote there, and cross it off when you go in.

[Greg!]

Even with a high youth turnout, I can't see it making much difference. Isn't Corbyn still the most unpopular in all age groups?

No labour has like 80% of support of 18-25 year olds.

[Brillopad]

No labour has like 80% of support of 18-25 year olds.

And most under 20's don't have a clue what their voting for other than perhaps to get free uni fees or to simply follow the crowd.

[Toy Soldier]

And most under 20's don't have a clue what their voting for other than perhaps to get free uni fees or to simply follow the crowd.
As many under 20s know what they're voting for as over 20's. Not that I'm saying they do know; most people don't know and just follow one crowd or other.

[jaxie]

As the parent of some young I would say them not getting out of bed until pushed is a fairly accurate description of my own young, specially after an all nighter on the games!

I'll probably chivvy them up later in the day like 3pm when they surface looking for bacon and eggs, to vote. Though my son might vote labour so maybe I'll encourage him back to bed! :laugh:

[bots]

As the parent of some young I would say them not getting out of bed until pushed is a fairly accurate description of my own young, specially after an all nighter on the games!

I'll probably chivvy them up later in the day like 3pm when they surface looking for bacon and eggs, to vote. Though my son might vote labour so maybe I'll encourage him back to bed! :laugh:

just hide their phones and they won't be able to use GPS to find the polling station :joker:

[Toy Soldier]

just hide their phones and they won't be able to use GPS to find the polling station :joker:

But then how will the oldies get there without strong young 'uns to help them with their zimmer frames and dementia :think:. They'll end up stumbling around B&Q trying to buy chicken.

[bots]

But then how will the oldies get there without strong young 'uns to help them with their zimmer frames and dementia :think:. They'll end up stumbling around B&Q trying to buy chicken.

ah ... but once you get them there, you have a 90% chance of them forgetting to bring their glasses and putting a cross in the wrong box :hee:

[Brillopad]

But then how will the oldies get there without strong young 'uns to help them with their zimmer frames and dementia :think:. They'll end up stumbling around B&Q trying to buy chicken.

Very optimistic of you if you think many youngsters today help the oldies with their zimmers. I think many youngsters think old age is contagious and it won't happen to them if they keep their distance.

[Toy Soldier]

Very optimistic of you if you think many youngsters today help the oldies with their zimmers. I think many youngsters think old age is contagious and it won't happen to them if they keep their distance.
I thought you only hated foreigners Brillo, it's somewhat comforting to know that you also have an unhealthy disdain for young people too :joker:. But where will we deport them to :worry:

[bots]

I thought you only hated foreigners Brillo, it's somewhat comforting to know that you also have an unhealthy disdain for young people too :joker:. But where will we deport them to :worry:

get them back in that womb where they belong :fist:

[Toy Soldier]

get them back in that womb where they belong :fist:
Cut them in down the middle, stuff half of them into their mother's ovaries and the other half into their dad's ballsack? :think: visceral...

[Brillopad]

I thought you only hated foreigners Brillo, it's somewhat comforting to know that you also have an unhealthy disdain for young people too :joker:. But where will we deport them to :worry:

I don't hate foreigners at all only terrorists that murder and maime. As a mother of three youngsters I have a healthy disdain for their laziness and lack on interest in politics. You do know not many voted in the most serious decision of our lives - the referendum - point proven I think. As for deportation - Easy the country they have dual citizenship of. :hee:

[Brillopad]

Cut them in down the middle, stuff half of them into their mother's ovaries and the other half into their dad's ballsack? :think: visceral...

Even I had to laugh at that one. :laugh:

[lime]

As the parent of some young I would say them not getting out of bed until pushed is a fairly accurate description of my own young, specially after an all nighter on the games!

I'll probably chivvy them up later in the day like 3pm when they surface looking for bacon and eggs, to vote. Though my son might vote labour so maybe I'll encourage him back to bed! :laugh:

Please tell me you are not making a bacon and egg breakfast for grown adults at 3pm:shocked:

[Tom4784]

Sadly though, there's not enough young people voting to really make a difference. Fear and prejudice will win out and the people that voted for Tories will cheer for their 'strong and stable' leadership as Human Rights are systematically changed and revoked and the NHS is destroyed...but hey! It's all worth it if it makes people feel validation for their hatred of muslims and immigrants, amirite?

[jaxie]

Please tell me you are not making a bacon and egg breakfast for grown adults at 3pm:shocked:

Oh yeah. :shrug: It's been a hard night on the games controller, what?

Either I do it, or I clean up after it. I'd rather do it.

(TBF to my male offspring though, he is home from a 9 month period of working away, 60+ hour weeks etc. When he gets home he's useless for a good month, the sleep patterns are all over the place etc etc).

[jaxie]

Sadly though, there's not enough young people voting to really make a difference. Fear and prejudice will win out and the people that voted for Tories will cheer for their 'strong and stable' leadership as Human Rights are systematically changed and revoked and the NHS is destroyed...but hey! It's all worth it if it makes people feel validation for their hatred of muslims and immigrants, amirite?

Charming.

[Tom4784]

Charming.

It's the truth.

I'm watching House of Cards atm and it's honestly horrific how close they've hit the nail on the head when it comes to politicians using the threat of terrorism as a tool to get people to vote against themselves. It happened in the US election and it's happening here too.

People are ultimately easily led as long as your court their prejudices, they'll ignore all rhyme and reason as proven by how many times May has been shown up as incompetent but people will ignore that because the Tabloids tell them to.

We are a country of gullible sheep and we are willingly walking into the slaughterhouse with smiles on our faces.

[Toy Soldier]

It's the truth.

I'm watching House of Cards atm and it's honestly horrific how close they've hit the nail on the head when it comes to politicians using the threat terrorism as a tool to get people to vote against themselves. It happened in the US election and it's happening here too.

People are ultimately easily led as long as your court their prejudices, they'll ignore all rhyme and reason as proven by how many times May has been shown up as incompetent but people will ignore that because the Tabloids tell them to.

We are a country of gullible sheep and we are willingly walking into the slaughterhouse with smiles on our faces.

I am too and the parallels are unbelievable... especially considering that the scripts were written / filming began before the US election, and writing before even Brexit. I guess a lot of people with their finger firmly on the pulse of politics have seen this mess coming for a while.

[Tom4784]

I am too and the parallels are unbelievable... especially considering that the scripts were written / filming began before the US election, and writing before even Brexit. I guess a lot of people with their finger firmly on the pulse of politics have seen this mess coming for a while.

This latest season feels autobiographical, it's honestly surreal how much they've nailed the political climate before it all came to pass.