Is the phrase "pale, male, stale" acceptable?

[the truth]

Load of people seem to be using this term to generalize and demonize an entire group of people to totally discredit all that they stand for... in mainstream society and not getting pulled up on it?

Technically speaking playing by the politically correct rules set out in society for the past few decades... its pale bordering racist, male sexist and stale ageist? Or being a pale stale male person myself should I just laugh it all off...Im sure if this was said about any group of people they would laugh it off too and no one would ever get offended or sacked for ????

[Vicky.]

I have never ever heard that term in my life :S

This is used regularly?!

[AnnieK]

I've never heard it either.

[the truth]

its used everywhere, mainly by smug hypocritical liberals try it on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHES2QZaYk0

[Marsh.]

I've never heard it either.

[the truth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlbZShC7ojM

[Vicky.]

Oh youtube wankers are just youtube wankers. I wouldn't worry about it tbh.

[the truth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DaxPeNZU2w

[Brillopad]

Load of people seem to be using this term to generalize and demonize an entire group of people to totally discredit all that they stand for... in mainstream society and not getting pulled up on it?

Technically speaking playing by the politically correct rules set out in society for the past few decades... its pale bordering racist, male sexist and stale ageist? Or being a pale stale male person myself should I just laugh it all off...Im sure if this was said about any group of people they would laugh it off too and no one would ever get offended or sacked for ????

Can't see that male is. But to call a white person pale reminds me of 'paleface' used in the old westerns and I would say is racist. To describe an older person as stale is ageist in my opinion.

[Cherie]

I've never heard it either.

That surprises me :hehe:


It just childish name calling, they must be getting frustrated if they have to resort to it

[the truth]

Oh youtube wankers are just youtube wankers. I wouldn't worry about it tbh.

no its everywhere not just you tube I am flabbergasted youve not heard the term , its used everywhere, uni lecturers use it all the time as do many many students...theyre taught to hate stale male pale men...theyve never even heard of lloyd george the pale male stale man who gave them the right to vote their national insurance system the tax system, the foundations for the nhs ...nor neu bevan the stale pale male who founded the nhs and built over a million social houses ...feminist brainwash wash sexist male ageist hate passed off as harmless

[Marsh.]

I've heard it now. Cherie just used it to me on the phone. :oh:

[Vicky.]

no its everywhere not just you tube I am flabbergasted youve not heard the term , its used everywhere, uni lecturers use it all the time as do many many students...theyre taught to hate stale male pale men...theyve never even heard of lloyd george the pale male stale man who gave them the right to vote their national insurance system the tax system, the foundations for the nhs ...nor neu bevan the stale pale male who founded the nhs and built over a million social houses ...feminist brainwash wash sexist male ageist hate passed off as harmless

I genuinely have not until this thread :S

Maybe its a regional thing or something

[Cherie]

I've heard it now. Cherie just used it to me on the phone. :oh:

:smug:

[the truth]

some cracking articles on this reverse bigotry against middle aged white men https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/15/pale-stale-males-blamed-brexit-trump

[the truth]

I genuinely have not until this thread :S

Maybe its a regional thing or something

no its rife across the nation and others too, even some women writers think it is prejudicial and plain wrong https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/16/last-acceptable-prejudice-pale-stale-males

[Marsh.]

no its everywhere not just you tube I am flabbergasted youve not heard the term , its used everywhere, uni lecturers use it all the time as do many many students...theyre taught to hate stale male pale men...theyve never even heard of lloyd george the pale male stale man who gave them the right to vote their national insurance system the tax system, the foundations for the nhs ...nor neu bevan the stale pale male who founded the nhs and built over a million social houses ...feminist brainwash wash sexist male ageist hate passed off as harmless

Except those people obviously weren't stale as they contributed hugely. Maybe you're missing the target of the phrase?

Also unis teach to "Hate the Pale, Male, Stale"? What rubbish. :laugh2:

[Glenn.]

I'm pale right now

[Marsh.]

But then I suppose it's like you referring to everything that so much as concerns women as "feminist" so you do tend to jump at generalisations.

[Marsh.]

I'm pale right now
And most definitely stale.

[the truth]

Except those people obviously weren't stale as they contributed hugely. Maybe you're missing the target of the phrase?

Also unis teach to "Hate the Pale, Male, Stale"? What rubbish. :laugh2:

Nope it is 100% true, alas you havent studied it and you will really only understand the bias, the historical revisionism, the male hate and bigotry that is being taught to our students that will poison our society in the years ahead...I know of history students who have never been taught about david lloyd george?

[Withano]

Ive never heard that phrase in my life. But I feel like youre encouraging it when you say stuff like "to discredit all that they stand for".

If this is a problem, then its because people like the op are lumping people together. But considering nobody so far has heard this phrase, I dont think its actually much of a problem

[the truth]

Ive never heard that phrase in my life. But I feel like youre encouraging it when you say stuff like "to discredit all that they stand for".

If this is a problem, then its because people like the op are lumping people together. But considering nobody so far has heard this phrase, I dont think its actually much of a problem

sorry im ignoring as youre probably just pale male and stale:hehe:

[Vicky.]

no its rife across the nation and others too, even some women writers think it is prejudicial and plain wrong https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/16/last-acceptable-prejudice-pale-stale-males

I don't think it can be that rife if so many have never heard it until now?

Anyway, I guess in answer to the OP...no its not acceptable. Sounds a bit..writing a whole group of people off for nothing except being white, male and older (stale?)

[Glenn.]

And most definitely stale.

No lies spotted

[Marsh.]

Nope it is 100% true, alas you havent studied it and you will really only understand the bias, the historical revisionism, the male hate and bigotry that is being taught to our students that will poison our society in the years ahead...I know of history students who have never been taught about david lloyd george?
Haven't studied what? Pale, male, stale studies?

[the truth]

I don't think it can be that rife if so many have never heard it until now?

Anyway, I guess in answer to the OP...no its not acceptable. Sounds a bit..writing a whole group of people off for nothing except being white, male and older (stale?)

believe me it is rife and has been for years and its getting worse..you will hear it as regularly used parlance all over the media and everyday life as this bigotry is taught across all the schools and uni's

[T*]

Never heard of it
It must be stale

[Cherie]

I don't think it can be that rife if so many have never heard it until now?

Anyway, I guess in answer to the OP...no its not acceptable. Sounds a bit..writing a whole group of people off for nothing except being white, male and older (stale?)

Is it any different to blonde bimbos or white van man or the many other generalisations made every day of the week, I know it's annoying because you wouldn't get away with saying that about males from other groups but at the moment being white is seen as a bit of a crime :joker:

[Marsh.]

Taught across all schools and unis.

:laugh2:

[T*]

why do people insist on fighting an imaginary fight

[Smithy]

But to call a white person pale reminds me of 'paleface' used in the old westerns and I would say is racist.

i..

what

:joker::joker::joker:

[Marsh.]

Is it any different to blonde bimbos or white van man or the many other generalisations made every day of the week, I know it's annoying because you wouldn't get away with saying that about males from other groups but at the moment being white is seen as a bit of a crime :joker:
Only to the delicate little snowflakes ( which are also pale white oop).

[Alf]

Can you imagine being a pale male stale, who lived in sale, drank a lot of ale and name was Dale?

[user104658]

Is it any different to blonde bimbos or white van man or the many other generalisations made every day of the week

:joker: :joker: :joker: Cherie! White van men are called "white van men" because they traditionally drive white transit vans... not because the men themselves are caucasian.

This has really made my day http://www.pic4ever.com/images/Laie_7.gif

[Vicky.]

Is it any different to blonde bimbos or white van man or the many other generalisations made every day of the week, I know it's annoying because you wouldn't get away with saying that about males from other groups but at the moment being white is seen as a bit of a crime :joker:

Obviously heard both of these :D

Nah I don't really think its any different to those terms tbh.

[Vicky.]

:joker: :joker: :joker: Cherie! White van men are called "white van men" because they traditionally drive white transit vans... not because the men themselves are caucasian.

This has really made my day http://www.pic4ever.com/images/Laie_7.gif

White van man round here tends to mean, angry bad driver and likely a pervert.

I thought that was the meaning everywhere, and that that was what cherie was talking about D:

[Cherie]

:joker: :joker: :joker: Cherie! White van men are called "white van men" because they traditionally drive white transit vans... not because the men themselves are caucasian.

This has really made my day http://www.pic4ever.com/images/Laie_7.gif

You absolute fool of course white refers to the colour of the van, I was talking about the male that drives them and the generalisation that they drive around shouting at women :joker:

[user104658]

White van man round here tends to mean, angry bad driver and likely a pervert.

I thought that was the meaning everywhere, and that that was what cherie was talking about D:

I'm choosing to believe that it's because they're white stop trying to ruin my day.

(They are AWFUL drivers, though)

[Cherie]

White van man round here tends to mean, angry bad driver and likely a pervert.

I thought that was the meaning everywhere, and that that was what cherie was talking about D:

Yes it was poor TS and his comprehension :pat:

[user104658]

You absolute fool of course white refers to the colour of the van, I was talking about the male that drives them and the generalisation that they drive around shouting at women :joker:

Yes it was poor TS and his comprehension :pat:

I'll believe it when I see it, you meant white men in vans you racialist.

[user104658]

Also, Caucasian van men aside, I also have never heard this phrase that Thruth claims is rife. :umm2:.

[Cherie]

I'll believe it when I see it, you meant white men in vans you racialist.

Pale stale males in white vans

[the truth]

the typical response expected...mockery and ignorance...Ive provided several links to articles videos, interviews galore and no one has even bothered looking at them
typical complacency that leads to reverse bigotry and ultimately its this lack of understanding empathy or help for the stale male pale that has seen male suicide leap to all time record levels across western society,,,meanwhile if the term pale stale female was used in the media the man using would be sacked. total liberal ignorance, bigotry and hypocrisy

[the truth]

Also, Caucasian van men aside, I also have never heard this phrase that Thruth claims is rife. :umm2:.

yes you have Ive just provided you with a load of links, open your eyes and your mind and stop lying about the truth

[Vicky.]

Truth, you provided a few youtube wanker videos and a couple of news links. Whilst claiming that use of this phrase is widespread and very common everywhere,.

A few articles and some videos of people loving themselves is hardly proof that its a widespread problem is it...and not one other person besides you has ever heard this term. Which kind of makes me believe its a chance to be the sort of thing you look up to read/watch? Maybe thats why you see it a lot.

[Withano]

the typical response expected...mockery and ignorance...Ive provided several links to articles videos, interviews galore and no one has even bothered looking at them
typical complacency that leads to reverse bigotry and ultimately its this lack of understanding empathy or help for the stale male pale that has seen male suicide leap to all time record levels across western society,,,meanwhile if the term pale stale female was used in the media the man using would be sacked. total liberal ignorance, bigotry and hypocrisy

Your three YouTube videos had 3100 views between them lol. the summary of the thread was made on post 2.

[user104658]

yes you have Ive just provided you with a load of links, open your eyes and your mind and stop lying about the truth

I obviously meant before this thread... of course I've heard it now, it's in the thread title :joker:.

[the truth]

man hater jess phillips uses it a gretat deal too ...this is the woman who laughed at mens issues recently when they discussed male suicde record cancer rates 80% lose custody and divorce settlemens are 80%+ are estranged from their kids their homes yet have to
pay half the bills , jess also mocked the idea of a mens day despite 95% being in favor in the polls http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11962537/Whats-so-funny-about-a-mens-rights-debate.html etc massively ignored topics which everyone on this thread has also disgracefully ignored

[the truth]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/dec/16/privilege-check-on-the-pale-stale-male

[the truth]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/male-pale-stale-could-more-women-on-the-board-help-mothercare-and-other-ailing-firms-6792202.html

[Ashley.]

But then I suppose it's like you referring to everything that so much as concerns women as "feminist" so you do tend to jump at generalisations.

:love:

[the truth]

http://green-park.co.uk/2017/01/13/pale-male-stale/

[the truth]

bbc use it all the time too http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-31148300

[the truth]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/744624/Pale-male-stale-blame-Greg-Dyke-Pat-Glass-Simon-Jenkins

[user104658]

man hater jess phillips uses it a gretat deal too ...this is the woman who laughed at mens issues recently when they discussed male suicde record cancer rates 80% lose custody and divorce settlemens are 80%+ are estranged from their kids their homes yet have to
pay half the bills , jess also mocked the idea of a mens day despite 95% being in favor in the polls http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11962537/Whats-so-funny-about-a-mens-rights-debate.html etc massively ignored topics which everyone on this thread has also disgracefully ignored

We already have Mens Day though

http://www.steakandbj.org/

Is FemmeTruth holding out on you?

[the truth]

financial times uses it https://www.ft.com/content/0ed53506-50b8-11e5-8642-453585f2cfcd?mhq5j=e3

[the truth]

the law society uses it https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/analysis/the-judiciary--still-too-pale-male-and-stale/61400.article

[the truth]

city am uses it http://www.cityam.com/225287/what-average-uk-boss

[the truth]

morning star uses it https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-a665-The-male,-pale-and-stale-stereotype-damages-the-movement#.WT2lOWjyvIU

[the truth]

forbes uses it https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikemyatt/2013/09/19/boards-remain-pale-male-and-stale-old-boys-club-alive-and-well/&refURL=https://www.google.co.uk/&referrer=https://www.google.co.uk/

[the truth]

financial post uses it http://business.financialpost.com/executive/tired-of-male-pale-and-stale-on-corporate-boards-investors-are-pushing-for-diversity

[the truth]

windsor uni uses it http://www.uwindsor.ca/law/1019/male-pale-and-stale-diversity-lawyers%E2%80%99-leadership

[the truth]

scottish herald yses it http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13055003.Male__pale_and_stale/

[the truth]

the times uses it https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pale-stale-and-male-the-heights-of-the-legal-world-are-still-not-diverse-enough-mppnmh5z6

[the truth]

everyone uses it, it would have taken you lot 5 minutes to search for this reverse bigotry but you choose to ignore it and to mock instead how predictably cowardly of you all

[Ashley.]

Another well thought out argument from you, The Truth. A couple sentences to put your point across, then repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat...

I have actually taken a little bit of time out of my life to take a look at some of these sites you're suggesting we read; half of them are actually criticizing the term, not reinforcing it.

So whilst you're trying to back yourself up with sites you haven't even bothered to read yourself, you're sort of making yourself look a little silly.

[Vicky.]

everyone uses it, it would have taken you lot 5 minutes to search for this reverse bigotry but you choose to ignore it and to mock instead how predictably cowardly of you all

But you claimed it was used all the time. Outside of self indulgent articles/videos, it seems not :shrug:

[user104658]

everyone uses it, it would have taken you lot 5 minutes to search for this reverse bigotry but you choose to ignore it and to mock instead how predictably cowardly of you all

The point is though... if everyone uses it, why would we have to search for it to know that it exists? Is there not rather a lot of irony in the fact that this whole forum did NOT know this term, but now does... because of you spreading it? :think:

[Kizzy]

I can understand the term to a certain extent, the days where the only opinion that is considered credible an valid is the 21-49 white male is hopefully ending.

http://www.cpt.org/files/US%20-%20Male%20Privilege%20Checklist.pdf

[the truth]

I can understand the term to a certain extent, the days where the only opinion that is considered credible an valid is the 21-49 white male is hopefully ending.

http://www.cpt.org/files/US%20-%20Male%20Privilege%20Checklist.pdf

Such a time never even existed thats another piece of revisionist history from male hating feminists. I think youll find in reality 80 million working class men died in 2 world wars after being conscripted to fight and die for rich powerful people

There was and never has been a war of the genders in the western world the ONLY war is between the elite 1% and the rest

[Tom4784]

If you have to go actively go look for examples of it then it's not used frequently or even rarely.

Just because you want to be a victim doesn't mean you are.

[Niamh.]

Never heard that before

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sounds a bit like my online dating profile thing

[bots]

can't say i've heard it. Can't see it catching on either, its too many words ... old **** slips far easier of the tongue

[Marsh.]

There was and never has been a war of the genders in the western world the ONLY war is between the elite 1% and the rest

And yet you're so eager to create one and make males somehow a victim in every aspect. It's actually quite pathetic.

[Niamh.]

Sounds a bit like my online dating profile thing
:laugh2:

[Withano]

A person who has a martyr complex, sometimes associated with the term victim complex, desires the feeling of being a martyr for his/her own sake, seeking out suffering or persecution because it either feeds a psychological need, or a desire to avoid responsibility.

In response to the OP, I think those offended by such an uncommon and silly phrase may want to look inward for a while.

[Kizzy]

Such a time never even existed thats another piece of revisionist history from male hating feminists. I think youll find in reality 80 million working class men died in 2 world wars after being conscripted to fight and die for rich powerful people

There was and never has been a war of the genders in the western world the ONLY war is between the elite 1% and the rest

So women have always had the same rights as men?..ok

[Ashley.]

Such a time never even existed thats another piece of revisionist history from male hating feminists. I think youll find in reality 80 million working class men died in 2 world wars after being conscripted to fight and die for rich powerful people

There was and never has been a war of the genders in the western world the ONLY war is between the elite 1% and the rest

Fighting for your country is hardly an inconvenience.

[Shaun]

Fighting for your country is hardly an inconvenience.

I wouldn't say it was a dream either.

[Greg!]

Never heard of this before but I'll use it all the time now. Thanks!

[Greg!]

Tom on big brother is a pale, stale male.

[AnnieK]

As we're a pretty diverse cross section of ages and locations and no one has heard of this phrase I don't think it's that well used

[Crimson Dynamo]

I feel Tibb would be happier with "young, hung and full of cum"

:think:

[Marsh.]

I feel Tibb would be happier with "young, hung and full of cum"

:think:
Don't be silly LT not everyone can be like us. :smug:

[Beso]

Will this be the opposite to young dumb and full of cum?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Will this be the opposite to young dumb and full of cum?

or meaty, beefy, big and bouncy?

[the truth]

Never heard of this before but I'll use it all the time now. Thanks!

that would be sexist racist and ageist, well done

[Smithy]

Don't be silly LT not everyone can be like us. :smug:

You're more: young, dumb and full of cum, sweetie

[Smithy]

not entirely sure either why you're constantly wanting to be a victim truth, you always seem to want to show how hard done by you are, but, how are you personally so hard done by?

[Marsh.]

not entirely sure either why you're constantly wanting to be a victim truth, you always seem to want to show how hard done by you are, but, how are you personally so hard done by?
He's sick of all the victims getting the limelight in their own slots on Lorraine.

He wants a breakfast TV interview too goddamnit.

[JTM45]

So you have a problem with this term yet you're acting like you're its personal marketing agent, making people aware of it who had not and probably would not have ever heard it and definitely weren't using it. I had never even heard this term before and you're still the only person who seems to be using it.

Rise above petty and trivial things and spend your time on things that really matter and can make a difference to people instead of adding fuel to the fire. This wasn't even a fire on this site until you lit it.

[smudgie]

Tall, dark and handsome is my preference ....:hee:

[Marsh.]

Tall, dark and handsome is my preference ....:hee:
Hello there:smug:

[the truth]

not entirely sure either why you're constantly wanting to be a victim truth, you always seem to want to show how hard done by you are, but, how are you personally so hard done by?

Yeah thats right you go along with the liberla TIBB crowd and ignore all of the issues I have brought up how incredibly brave of you. This is NOTHING to do with me. This is to do with discrimination against men, that would simply never be tolerated against any other group.

[Greg!]

Yeah thats right you go along with the liberla TIBB crowd and ignore all of the issues I have brought up how incredibly brave of you. This is NOTHING to do with me. This is to do with discrimination against men, that would simply never be tolerated against any other group.

The word unhinged springs to mind. Stop trying to look for hardship that doesn't exist and take that chip off your shoulder hon, you'll feel better for it.

[Withano]

This is NOTHING to do with me.

? Or being a pale stale male person myself should I just laugh it all off...

:think:

[Stu]

Almost broke down buying a box of Ritz in Tesco this morning because of a Tumblr page I didn't have to read.

Being a man has never been harder.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tall, dark and handsome is my preference ....:hee:

:nono:

shocking racism

[smudgie]

Hello there:smug:

:flutter: :flowers:

[Marsh.]

Almost broke down buying a box of Ritz in Tesco this morning because of a Tumblr page I didn't have to read.

Being a man has never been harder.
:laugh2:

[smudgie]

:nono:

shocking racism

Hmmmmmmmm, personal taste, then again I quite like bald men as well, with muscles.:laugh:

[Marsh.]

Not smudgie going for the white van man and the builders bum.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hmmmmmmmm, personal taste, then again I quite like bald men as well, with muscles.:laugh:

i will pm marsh

(is muscles negotiable?)

[smudgie]

Not smudgie going for the white van man and the builders bum.

i will pm marsh

(is muscles negotiable?)

Ok. All men are wonderful, as long as they have a good nature and a big heart:hee:

[Smithy]

Oh well that's both LT and marsh out the window then

[smudgie]

Oh well that's both LT and marsh out the window then

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Both lovely fellas.

[Marsh.]

I have a big heart a big

[Marsh.]

My internet cut off then :hehe:

[smudgie]

My internet cut off then :hehe:

:fist: at Internet.
I know you meant personality Marsh...big personality.:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I have a big heart a big

it may be dark, it may be handsome, but it aint big

:hehe:

[Marsh.]

it may be dark, it may be handsome, but it aint big

:hehe:
Not you racially stereotyping my appendage.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not you racially stereotyping my appendage.

i knew the day would come when i was called a racist the in the same post as your fetid button mushroom was outed

kismet

:fist:

[Marsh.]

:joker:

[AnnieK]

Lol...don't think this is the way The Truth wanted this thread to go.....but it's much more interesting than debating non existent first world problems

[Niamh.]

Lol...don't think this is the way The Truth wanted this thread to go.....but it's much more interesting than debating non existent first world problems
:clap2:

[the truth]

Lol...don't think this is the way The Truth wanted this thread to go.....but it's much more interesting than debating non existent first world problems

yes some people, cowards mainly love a bit of group bullying

[Northern Monkey]

I just heard the words "male,pale and stale" on Question Time Extra Time on Radio Five Live.It's real!

[the truth]

Yeah I know it is, and youll hear a heck of a lot more of it as the white old man is the most discriminated against in this country

Incidentally did you know in parts of america all new mothers get a year to decide whetehr or not to take legal ownership of the baby they have just given birth to
Its called the safe haven law

NO man in western society has this legal choice at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKLFIsv7ATE

[Northern Monkey]

You are ahead of your time Truth.They said it 3 times now and a caller said it.

[the truth]

You are ahead of your time Truth.They said it 3 times now and a caller said it.

yep way ahead of most of the liberal feminist posters on here