View Full Version : Diana Abbott back as shadow home secretary
Brillopad
18-06-2017, 01:46 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/18/jeremy-corbyn-reveals-diane-abbott-has-returned-shadow-home/
Well didn't we just know that would happen.
Kizzy
18-06-2017, 01:48 PM
Brilliant news, a good sign her diabetes is now controlled.
Withano
18-06-2017, 01:49 PM
You cant ignore her landslide constituency vote. Was that the biggest margin in the country out of interest? Does anyone know?
Crimson Dynamo
18-06-2017, 01:50 PM
Brilliant news, a good sign her diabetes is now controlled.
yes because long term diabetics have no idea how to control their diabetes
You cant ignore her landslide vote. Was that the biggest margin in the country out of interest? Does anyone know?
it doesn't make her a capable cabinet minister
Crimson Dynamo
18-06-2017, 01:52 PM
You cant ignore her landslide constituency vote. Was that the biggest margin in the country out of interest? Does anyone know?
does anyone care?
Withano
18-06-2017, 01:52 PM
it doesn't make her a capable cabinet minister
Giving the people what they want it looks like though. Also there was a thread on here a while back that listed her accomplishments and it was mind blowing.
the truth
18-06-2017, 01:52 PM
She has long term stupidity and dishonesty and a life long allergy to answering any questions properly...Proving once again what great taste and judgement jeremy santa corbyn, hasnt got
Withano
18-06-2017, 01:56 PM
You cant ignore her landslide constituency vote. Was that the biggest margin in the country out of interest? Does anyone know?
It was 18th if anybody else was interested lol
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/orderedseats.html
Crimson Dynamo
18-06-2017, 02:08 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/18/jeremy-corbyn-reveals-diane-abbott-has-returned-shadow-home/
Well didn't we just know that would happen.
a shot in the arm for the Conservatives after a bad week
:clap1:
the truth
18-06-2017, 02:10 PM
a shot in the arm for the Conservatives after a bad week
:clap1:
exactly, this alone could put teresa back on top
Kizzy
18-06-2017, 02:23 PM
yes because long term diabetics have no idea how to control their diabetes
Maybe she had been campaigning too hard and not been looking after herself properly to serve her constituents, is mocking her due to her condition necessary?
Kazanne
18-06-2017, 02:25 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/18/jeremy-corbyn-reveals-diane-abbott-has-returned-shadow-home/
Well didn't we just know that would happen.
Yes,I called it here,I dont even believe she was poorly,just a liability:wavey:
Jack_
18-06-2017, 02:25 PM
This is a mistake
Crimson Dynamo
18-06-2017, 02:27 PM
Yes,I called it here,I dont even believe she was poorly,just a liability:wavey:
it was a disgusting lie and an insult to every person who has diabetes
Crimson Dynamo
18-06-2017, 02:27 PM
Maybe she had been campaigning too hard and not been looking after herself properly to serve her constituents, is mocking her due to her condition necessary?
give me a break
:joker:
smudgie
18-06-2017, 02:28 PM
yes because long term diabetics have no idea how to control their diabetes
She is a ruddy insult to diabetics to be honest.
We all know the signs, and the recovery time from a hypo.
Bloody idiot.
the truth
18-06-2017, 02:30 PM
Maybe she had been campaigning too hard and not been looking after herself properly to serve her constituents, is mocking her due to her condition necessary?
were mocking her dishonesty and general idiocy, typical of the left to twist the truth and accuse everyone of mocking diabetes
Crimson Dynamo
18-06-2017, 02:34 PM
She is a ruddy insult to diabetics to be honest.
We all know the signs, and the recovery time from a hypo.
Bloody idiot.
Yes my father was a diabetic for all of his adult life nearly and pulling this excuse out days later was a low blow even for this dreadful woman
smudgie
18-06-2017, 02:37 PM
Yes my father was a diabetic for all of his adult life nearly and pulling this excuse out days later was a low blow even for this dreadful woman
Indeed.
She really should learn how it actually works before making such ludicrous statements.:fist:
Kazanne
18-06-2017, 02:38 PM
Maybe she had been campaigning too hard and not been looking after herself properly to serve her constituents, is mocking her due to her condition necessary?
I am not knocking the condition Kizzy,I just dont believe she has it,besides people are not averse to mocking TM for just about everything from her looks to her actions ,I'de say Abbot has got off lightly.
Withano
18-06-2017, 02:43 PM
I am not knocking the condition Kizzy,I just dont believe she has it,besides people are not averse to mocking TM for just about everything from her looks to her actions ,I'de say Abbot has got off lightly.
Why lol?
the truth
18-06-2017, 04:20 PM
maybe donald trump will one day use this excuse for bringing about world war 4....sorry my sugar levels were high
Brillopad
18-06-2017, 06:25 PM
Why lol?
If she does, she should be able to control it as it is a condition based on lifestyle. If she can't manage her own disbetes how can she manage such an important role affecting the lives of others. She is totally unsuitable for the role.
Tom4784
18-06-2017, 06:41 PM
If she does, she should be able to control it as it is a condition based on lifestyle. If she can't manage her own disbetes how can she manage such an important role affecting the lives of others. She is totally unsuitable for the role.
She was on the campaign trail, everybody's diets and sleep habits goes to pot on those things. She had a bad campaign due to her illness, I don't think that impacts her ability to do her job on a day to day basis especially considering her history of accomplishments.
I'm not a fan of her by any means but I don't think you can really subjectively knock her re-appointment, especially if it's just based on a campaign.
Crimson Dynamo
18-06-2017, 06:44 PM
"She had a bad campaign due to her illness"
:laugh2:
Brilliant news, a good sign her diabetes is now controlled.
Omg......hope she never comes health secratary...
Livia
19-06-2017, 08:43 AM
I am not knocking the condition Kizzy,I just dont believe she has it,besides people are not averse to mocking TM for just about everything from her looks to her actions ,I'de say Abbot has got off lightly.
Theresa May has type 1 diabetes controlled with insulin injections. Can you imagine the reaction from the Left if she used it as an excuse for mistakes? If Diane Abbott has diabetes - luckily for her she had an "episode" that tied in with her massive ineptitude - she'd get more sympathy from me if she did something to control it, like lose weight.
Northern Monkey
19-06-2017, 09:05 AM
This is a bad move.Labour are currently on a bit of a high.Why ruin it.
Kazanne
19-06-2017, 10:08 AM
Theresa May has type 1 diabetes controlled with insulin injections. Can you imagine the reaction from the Left if she used it as an excuse for mistakes? If Diane Abbott has diabetes - luckily for her she had an "episode" that tied in with her massive ineptitude - she'd get more sympathy from me if she did something to control it, like lose weight.
Too true Livia,missed you ,where you been? :wavey:
Kizzy
19-06-2017, 10:53 AM
Theresa May has type 1 diabetes controlled with insulin injections. Can you imagine the reaction from the Left if she used it as an excuse for mistakes? If Diane Abbott has diabetes - luckily for her she had an "episode" that tied in with her massive ineptitude - she'd get more sympathy from me if she did something to control it, like lose weight.
Supposition.
If only May could control the social situations she flounders at as well as her diabetes eh?
joeysteele
19-06-2017, 11:10 AM
I wouldn't wish diabetes,type 1 or type 2 on anyone and on that well done to Theresa May if she is able to control it,especially in any stressful position.
That is where my praise ends as to Mrs May.
As I said no way will I make light of diabetes as to anyone who has it,it isn't sometimes referred to as the silent killer for nothing.
If not properly controlled it can cause problems all through ones body and organs.
Not a condition to be ridiculed at all.
Crimson Dynamo
19-06-2017, 11:14 AM
I wouldn't wish diabetes,type 1 or type 2 on anyone and on that well done to Theresa May if she is able to control it,especially in any stressful position.
That is where my praise ends as to Mrs May.
As I said no way will I make light of diabetes as to anyone who has it,it isn't sometimes referred to as the silent killer for nothing.
If not properly controlled it can cause problems all through ones body and organs.
Not a condition to be ridiculed at all.
no and quite disgusting to be used to blame ineptitude
it beggars belief she thinks she can lie like that
what else is she prepared to lie about?
joeysteele
19-06-2017, 11:25 AM
no and quite disgusting to be used to blame ineptitude
it beggars belief she thinks she can lie like that
what else is she prepared to lie about?
Where's the proof she was lying?
Can you show undeniable proof for instance.It would be good to see if you have real credible proof that is.
Her medical records I am sure would be able to show she was diagnosed with it.
Or do you know for sure different.
Crimson Dynamo
19-06-2017, 11:39 AM
Where's the proof she was lying?
Can you show undeniable proof for instance.It would be good to see if you have real credible proof that is.
Her medical records I am sure would be able to show she was diagnosed with it.
Or do you know for sure different.
no one is denying she is diabetic but if she is claiming that her diabetes made her fck up a succession of interviews then lets see the proof?
smudgie
19-06-2017, 11:44 AM
no one is denying she is diabetic but if she is claiming that her diabetes made her fck up a succession of interviews then lets see the proof?
Yeah, as someone that was having serious hypo issues earlier in the year I can honestly say she showed no signs of it to me.
She has the same problem as Corbyn, coughing and stumbling and simply inept when they are caught off guard.
joeysteele
19-06-2017, 11:47 AM
no one is denying she is diabetic but if she is claiming that her diabetes made her fck up a succession of interviews then lets see the proof?
If her diabetes is not well controlled then it can affect generally,people with diabetes not well controlled can even be thought of as being drunk,when confused etc.
She stated she was affected by it, you and those who hate her,call her a liar, so you prove she was lying, if you can solidly state she was.
Has any medic come out and said it wasn't her diabetes since you are 100% it was not.
Diabetes causes all sorts of problems.
Unless I see clear substantiated proof she lied about it,then I will be prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt,as I would anyone with diabetes or in fact any other serious condition.
If her diabetes is not well controlled then it can affect generally,people with diabetes not well controlled can even be thought of as being drunk,when confused etc.
She stated she was affected by it, you and those who hate her,call her a liar, so you prove she was lying, if you can solidly state she was.
Has any medic come out and said it wasn't her diabetes since you are 100% it was not.
Diabetes causes all sorts of problems.
Unless I see clear substantiated proof she lied about it,then I will be prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt,as I would anyone with diabetes or in fact any other serious condition.
Joey, i don't wish Dianne ill health or misfortune, but i've never thought she was competent to be a home secretary. It's not even about getting figures wrong, its just general competence going back many years.
We can all argue the toss about if it affected her judgement etc, but the point is, in a position of responsibility, if she is prone to it affecting her under stress, she shouldn't be considered for the position, because actually being a home secretary is a lot more stressful than answering a couple of questions on Womens Hour.
joeysteele
19-06-2017, 12:28 PM
Yeah, as someone that was having serious hypo issues earlier in the year I can honestly say she showed no signs of it to me.
She has the same problem as Corbyn, coughing and stumbling and simply inept when they are caught off guard.
It doesn't always have to be a serious hypo to cause problems.
A serious hypo would likely render you unconscious.
Just heading into one would be less likely to.
However high blood sugar as well as low causes problems too for diabetics.
You can say clearly that her diabetes played no part at all.
I'm not saying it did or didn't, I don't have substantiated proof like you maybe have somehow, so unless clearly proven,I afford her the benefit of the doubt.
Oh and I likely dislike Abbott as much as I do Mrs May.
I'd leave diagnosis to her Doctor myself though and not state as fact something I don't really know is fact at all.
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