Brillos brexit thread

[Brillopad]

Nnnnn

[user104658]

This specific decision was made after (and probably in light of) the Brexit vote, and only "refuels speculation" that they were planning to try to get more cash out of the UK if it had been remain. We will never actually know the truth there. It will always be speculation.

I do feel that the EU will be in trouble with one of its cornerstones removed and it may well not last in its current form; Brexit voters will always assume that this was us "getting out just in time", rather than considering the possibility that "getting out" was the catalyst for the whole thing ceasing to work.

We could muse over these things until the cows come home though; we can't try both paths and see both outcomes, we can only continue on the path we're on, and the rest is nothing more than "what ifs" and guesswork.

[jaxie]

I'm sure that's going to prove delightfully popular with all the other states who will lose rebates.

[Brillopad]

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/why-hasnt-the-remain-dog-barked-in-this-election/

Britain is behind Brexit - it!s official.

[Scarlett.]

Yes, yes, yes, we're leaving the EU, I believe this has been debated to death and there is no point crying over milk that has been spilt so long that it has begun to grow fungus.

[Shaun]

I think it's more that everyone knows they can't so much as breathe the words "I voted remain" without being screamed at for being unpatriotic.

[Alf]

Mmmm fungus

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/09/drool.gif

[Scarlett.]

I think it's more that everyone knows they can't so much as breathe the words "I voted remain" without being screamed at for being unpatriotic.

Yep, especially since a lot of remainers, like me, voted as much for patriotic reasons as many leavers did. I believed, and still believe this country is stronger in Europe.

[Kizzy]

I'm happy with brexit... I would not be happy with a tory brexit.

Saw a guy say h wouldn't trust may with a two piece jigsaw....couldn't have put it better myself!

The maternity unit at the main hospital used by Theresa May’s local constituents is so severely understaffed that wards are running with only a quarter of the nurses they need, potentially putting mothers’ and babies’ lives at risk.

The Royal Berkshire hospital’s staffing data shows that on some days in March its delivery suite lacked two-thirds of the nurses it needed to provide safe care, while the midwife-led unit had as few as a third of the preferred number nurses on duty, despite evidence that staff shortages increase the risks of childbirth.

Even the high-risk antenatal ward, where the most vulnerable unborn children receive intensive monitoring, was 50% to 75% short of nurses during some shifts.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jun/07/revealed-scale-of-hospital-staff-shortages-in-top-tory-areas-may-hunt

[user104658]

Kizzy why are you worrying about babies when there are terrorists out there running loose? It won't matter if there are enough nurses to safely care for the newborns IF THE HOSPITAL GETS BLOWN TO PIECES IN HOLY FIRE!!

[Kizzy]

I literally feel sick with worry :/

[user104658]

I literally feel sick with worry :/
It's going to be a Tory majority Kizzy... It's honestly not worth getting your hopes up.

[Kizzy]

It's going to be a Tory majority Kizzy... It's honestly not worth getting your hopes up.

orly?.... :smug:

[user104658]

orly?.... :smug:

As I said on another thread just now; my gut feeling is still with a Tory majority of roughly the same size as the current one. Though to be fair, that would still be an OK-ish result.

(I should clarify; OK-ish compared to a Tory landslide. :umm2: )

[Tom4784]

Britain supports Brexit....by voting in a Tory government that will u-turn on their hard stance and give in to the EU and take any deal that's offered?

[JTM45]

This very silly thread looks even sillier this morning - it's official.:laugh:

[Scarlett.]

Soft Brexit pls.

[Cherie]

I reckon we will get a second referendum

[Kizzy]

I'd rather a second election than referendum :idc:

[Northern Monkey]

Well in the cold light of day i'd have to disagree with the article.I'd say the remain dog has barked just not in the Lib Dems camp.

[Kizzy]

The idea of a Labour brexit appealed to me, I'm a supporter of nationalisation.

[Tom4784]

I think it's more that everyone knows they can't so much as breathe the words "I voted remain" without being screamed at for being unpatriotic.

Preach, most Leavers will argue that we should respect democracy but strangely enough it's only when the vote goes their way.

I reckon we will get a second referendum

I hope we don't. I'm beyond hoping that people will learn from their mistakes but they do need to pay the price for voting in ignorance.

[Brillopad]

I reckon we will get a second referendum

Sorry Cherie, that won't happen.

[Brillopad]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/818236/Brexit-latest-EU-divorce-bill-punish-Peter-Lundgren

There is a lot of support out there from Europe for the U.K. despite the EUs attempt to persuade us otherwise.

[Jack_]

Yes because a Swedish MEP speaks for 27 member states

Laughable 'journalism'

[Northern Monkey]

I don't think there's going to be any punishing going on.Everyone wants the best for there own interests.Trying to punish the UK might get brownie points the hardline Europhiles but it would only hurt everyone economically.

[Brillopad]

Yes because a Swedish MEP speaks for 27 member states

Laughable 'journalism'

He isn't the first European MP to defend Britain against the EU. Europe is boiling over with discontent and we will soon see the results of that.

It must be so hard for you coming on here - you know with your oh so superior knowledge of all things politics. I'll try and remember that the next time you cite the Indepentent or the Canary - the standard fodder of those on the left.

[Jack_]

He isn't the first European MP to defend Britain against the EU. Europe is boiling over with discontent and we will soon see the results of that.

It must be so hard for you coming on here - you know with your oh so superior knowledge of all things politics. I'll try and remember that the next time you cite the Indepentent or the Canary - the standard fodder of those on the left.

Can we see some other examples then please? There are 750 members of the European Parliament, so how many shall we say constitutes 'a lot' of support? A simple majority - 375? A third - 250? Or do we have to go a bit lower?

I don't think I've ever cited The Canary so I'm not sure what that's about. As for The Independent, I read its articles in full knowledge of their political slant and often read other sources to cross-reference its content, as I do with most papers. Again, tabloids are vapid crap and should largely be avoided. Has nothing to do with their political agenda.

[Tom4784]

It's a very British thing to overestimate our own importance in the world.

We will play ball with what the EU demands of us, this election has guaranteed that by allowing the u-turning Tories retain the most seats. Anybody that voted Tory will inevitably have voted for the poor soft brexit deal we're gonna get with this government.

[Mystic Mock]

27 countries are more likely to recover than 1, or if you count the UK countries individually 4.

[the truth]

27 countries are more likely to recover than 1, or if you count the UK countries individually 4.

no theyre not as 25 of them are negative contributors to the eu
i.e. they take out more than they put in
and the burden all falls on the germans and french

[bots]

There is a reason that up until now we are one of only 3 net contributors to the EU, so while all the 27 members states may have their say it means squat really. The deal will be done with the other 2 net contributors, Germany and France, because at the end of the day, monitory power will determine the outcome. Everything else is noise.

Germany and France cannot afford for the brexit deal to be anything but good for the 3 contributors. So lots of huffing and puffing, but a pretty much guaranteed outcome that will be satisfactory to the UK. How that outcome is then interpreted will be dependent on political stance as it always is. So someone will always find fault.

[joeysteele]

27 countries are more likely to recover than 1, or if you count the UK countries individually 4.

Indeed,that is a strong point.

Also they remaining as members will assist each other to do so.

The UK will just be another outside trading Nation with the EU, whatever happens in the UK,will neither really benefit that much or hurt in any big way the EU.

The EU negotiators in this have one main focus and duty,which is to ensure the stability of the EU around the remaining EU members and for the attraction of those Countries wanting to join the EU.

It has no real duty to a Nation voluntarily walking away from all its current status with the EU,even after being a Nation that helped form the EU as it is and signed up to all treaties.

Whatever deal the UK now gets is going to be nothing like what it has now,it cannot be,or other EU Nations will see little point in being in the EU at all.

The UK will have to pay some major price and end up the lesser Nation for it.
The UK is not a World leader as to much really,sadly so but it's too late now to be that big Empire it once was seen as.

Anyone who thinks any EU Nation member or the EU negotiators are going to ensure a really good deal for the UK,which would be to the detriment of some or all other EU member Nations, frankly are living in cloud cuckoo land.

Also remember whatever deal finally set out,has to be ratified by every other EU member Nation to be able to be implemented.
Chaos looms and this is why all UK Parties with elected MPs,should all be part of the planning of negotiations too.
We had a National referendum,we should then have a National agreed negotiated deal,not just one done by the Govt.and even less so just possibly the DUP.

[the truth]

Indeed,that is a strong point.

Also they remaining as members will assist each other to do so.

The UK will just be another outside trading Nation with the EU, whatever happens in the UK,will neither really benefit that much or hurt in any big way the EU.

The EU negotiators in this have one main focus and duty,which is to ensure the stability of the EU around the remaining EU members and for the attraction of those Countries wanting to join the EU.

It has no real duty to a Nation voluntarily walking away from all its current status with the EU,even after being a Nation that helped form the EU as it is and signed up to all treaties.

Whatever deal the UK now gets is going to be nothing like what it has now,it cannot be,or other EU Nations will see little point in being in the EU at all.

The UK will have to pay some major price and end up the lesser Nation for it.
The UK is not a World leader as to much really,sadly so but it's too late now to be that big Empire it once was seen as.

Anyone who thinks any EU Nation member or the EU negotiators are going to ensure a really good deal for the UK,which would be to the detriment of some or all other EU member Nations, frankly are living in cloud cuckoo land.

Also remember whatever deal finally set out,has to be ratified by every other EU member Nation to be able to be implemented.
Chaos looms and this is why all UK Parties with elected MPs,should all be part of the planning of negotiations too.
We had a National referendum,we should then have a National agreed negotiated deal,not just one done by the Govt.and even less so just possibly the DUP.
You're in cloud cuckoo. ..the eu is bust they're losing one of only 3 net contributors ...we pay in over 8 billion net per annum....25 countries take out only 3 pay in. record unemployment, record debts , record unemployment and we but 4 times more than we supply them ..were theyre biggest market place. if they overcharge us with tariffs we do it back and we buy elsewhere theyd loose 100s of billions ....why don't the left ever do basic arithmetic?

[Kizzy]

Nope, not crumbling ...we're crumbling

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-talks-negotiations-latest-uk-eu-divorce-deal-government-agrees-caves-in-before-trade-deal-a7798076.html

[letmein]

Britain dug its own grave.

[joeysteele]

You're in cloud cuckoo. ..the eu is bust they're losing one of only 3 net contributors ...we pay in over 8 billion net per annum....25 countries take out only 3 pay in. record unemployment, record debts , record unemployment and we but 4 times more than we supply them ..were theyre biggest market place. if they overcharge us with tariffs we do it back and we buy elsewhere theyd loose 100s of billions ....why don't the left ever do basic arithmetic?


I know for sure I'd rather be in my cloud cuckoo land than yours.
All Nations have problems,working through them together is the more secure way of longer term success,than trying alone.

I think your arithmetic needs looking at,it seems at odds with official statements overall.

Anyone who believes we have highest employment too is also in loud cuckoo land.
If our unemployment figures still contained all the people not in full employment it would be much greater.
All the part time workers,zero hour contract workers and now as with many supermarkets, those taken off 30 hours guaranteed a week workers now placed on only 16 hour a week contracts,more part time again.
As my local ASDA has done to all staff except for supervisors and management.

[Liberty4eva]

Reminds me of this scene from the Simpsons.

hCRRzoRfUXk

[the truth]

I know for sure I'd rather be in my cloud cuckoo land than yours.
All Nations have problems,working through them together is the more secure way of longer term success,than trying alone.

I think your arithmetic needs looking at,it seems at odds with official statements overall.

Anyone who believes we have highest employment too is also in loud cuckoo land.
If our unemployment figures still contained all the people not in full employment it would be much greater.
All the part time workers,zero hour contract workers and now as with many supermarkets, those taken off 30 hours guaranteed a week workers now placed on only 16 hour a week contracts,more part time again.
As my local ASDA has done to all staff except for supervisors and management.

weve created more new jobs than the rest of europe put together in the past 7 years

Yes there are zero hours but only 900,000+ out of 30 odd million thats a mere 3%.....We have one of the lowest unemployment rates in europe and we wont be saddled with the £8 billion plus EU bill nor their infinite petty rules and regulations such as VAT rises, the sheer expense that makes it impossible to dig our own coal , the failure to agree to put bigger tariffs on cheap illegal chinese steel. I notice too they havent shown their accounts for 20 years? That doesnt bother you either?

Try and do some basic maths

[the truth]

Nope, not crumbling ...we're crumbling

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-talks-negotiations-latest-uk-eu-divorce-deal-government-agrees-caves-in-before-trade-deal-a7798076.html

spoken like a true patriot lol

[Tom4784]

Patriotism is for fools that want to silence people that don't think the same way they do.

[joeysteele]

weve created more new jobs than the rest of europe put together in the past 7 years

Yes there are zero hours but only 900,000+ out of 30 odd million thats a mere 3%.....We have one of the lowest unemployment rates in europe and we wont be saddled with the £8 billion plus EU bill nor their infinite petty rules and regulations such as VAT rises, the sheer expense that makes it impossible to dig our own coal , the failure to agree to put bigger tariffs on cheap illegal chinese steel. I notice too they havent shown their accounts for 20 years? That doesnt bother you either?

Try and do some basic maths



How many are in part time work.
You do the maths,.

The problem is you nor I can as real figures are not made known.

However in just one store and clearly likely across most Asdas, people have had 14 hours removed from their guaranteed working week.

Is 16 hours and less in a full time job to you.
It isn't to me.
The number of those kind if hours jobs being created are the rising number.

That's not real full emplyment creation of jobs at all.
People in part time work used to be still considered as looking for full time work, not fully employed at all.

You may be happy with that but don't claim good creation of jobs which a great rising number of are part time and zero hours ones.

[the truth]

Patriotism is for fools that want to silence people that don't think the same way they do.

yes thats the trouble with socialists

[bots]

People are being very naive if they think the EU can punish the UK. Its a 2 way relationship and if they were to punish us, it would mean punishing themselves too.

We have traded amongst europe for a long long time, that isn't going to stop. We did it before we joined the common market and we will do it again on leaving.


Trade deals and conditions are always subject to change, and they will change and evolve through the years. All that is agreed for 2 years time is a starting position. No need for panic from any side.

[the truth]

People are being very naive if they think the EU can punish the UK. Its a 2 way relationship and if they were to punish us, it would mean punishing themselves too.

We have traded amongst europe for a long long time, that isn't going to stop. We did it before we joined the common market and we will do it again on leaving.


Trade deals and conditions are always subject to change, and they will change and evolve through the years. All that is agreed for 2 years time is a starting position. No need for panic from any side.

exactly its just a business deal...it probably wont even take as long as some expect

[Brillopad]

Britain dug its own grave.

When it opened its borders to all and sundry.

[Brillopad]

Nope, not crumbling ...we're crumbling

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-talks-negotiations-latest-uk-eu-divorce-deal-government-agrees-caves-in-before-trade-deal-a7798076.html

There's room for a lot more crumbling with a hard-line left wing activist at no 10.

[Brillopad]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/20/not-just-uk-benefit-brexit-eu

Some more positivity instead of all the ridiculous scaremongering. We make our own success - all this whining like babies will achieve nothing.

[Withano]

all this whining like babies will achieve nothing.

Then stop doing that :shrug:

[Kizzy]

The EU was crumbling earlier... realised now they effectively have us by the short and curlies eh?

[Brillopad]

The EU was crumbling earlier... realised now they effectively have us by the short and curlies eh?

If it tries to bully the UK.

Not read it then. They have us by nothing - it's all bravado.

[the truth]

The EU was crumbling earlier... realised now they effectively have us by the short and curlies eh?

they really dont, it just appears that way

[Kizzy]

If it tries to bully the UK.

Not read it then. They have us by nothing - it's all bravado.

Well it'll be a change from being bullied by the DUP... give in to our demands or you're on your own.

[Tom4784]

We'll be getting a soft brexit and people who wanted otherwise will only have themselves to blame for voting for the Tories.

[Northern Monkey]

I think the UK and EU will have an awful lot we/they agree on.I don't think there will be too many issues of contention and i think it will go smoother than alot of the media scaremongering would have us believe.We all benefit from a smooth transition.Imo

[Withano]

I think the UK and EU will have an awful lot we/they agree on.I don't think there will be too many issues of contention and i think it will go smoother than alot of the media scaremongering would have us believe.We all benefit from a smooth transition.Imo

I would have agreed with this a month ago, but like, May is the laughing stock of ther world right now.
I've been saying for about 11 months now that it wont be half as bad as the hard-remainers are dreading, or half as good as the hard-leavers are expecting.

[bots]

We will be getting an exit from europe that is mutually beneficial to all sides, that was never in doubt because that's how trade deals have worked since the beginning of time.

Political acceptance of the deal is a completely different thing, and there will never be agreement on that, even if they spent the next 20 years debating it in parliament

The only sensible way to progress is to get something in place and then adjust that to taste as time goes by.

If i were to predict the shape of the initial deal now, I would say that it will be something that retains the status quo for a period of time, probably 5-10 years, during which time things will be adjusted as required, slowly. This would also negate the much talked about divorce bill as it would allow us to see out our current legal obligations

[the truth]

We'll be getting a soft brexit and people who wanted otherwise will only have themselves to blame for voting for the Tories.

lol better than labour coming in, no one knew where the hell they were on europe, nor corbyn himself he was anti eu for 39 years then becomes elader and 12 months leader hes pro eu...oh what a man of principle?

[Jack_]

lol better than labour coming in, no one knew where the hell they were on europe

http://www.labour.org.uk/page/-/Images/manifesto-2017/labour-manifesto-2017.pdf

'Negotiating Brexit' (pp. 23-32):

We will scrap the Conservatives’ Brexit White Paper and replace it with fresh negotiating priorities that have a strong emphasis on retaining the bene ts of the Single arket and the Customs Union – which are essential for maintaining industries, jobs and businesses in Britain. Labour will always put jobs and the economy first.

A Labour government will immediately guarantee existing rights for all EU nationals living in Britain and secure reciprocal rights for UK citizens who have chosen to make their lives in EU countries.

A Labour government will ensure that the UK maintains our leading research role by seeking to stay part of Horizon 2020 and its successor programmes and by welcoming research staff to the UK.

Labour will also protect our farmers and rural economy by ensuring Britain continues to set the highest standards in food quality and welfare. We will not allow Brexit to be used as an excuse to undercut our farmers and ood Britain’s food chain with cheap and inferior produce.

We will drop the Conservatives’ Great Repeal Bill, replacing it with an EU Rights and Protections Bill that will ensure there is no detrimental change to workers’ rights, equality law, consumer rights or environmental protections as a result of Brexit.

Throughout the Brexit process, we will make sure that all EU-derived laws that are of benefit - including workplace laws, consumer rights and environmental protections – are fully protected without qualifications, limitations or sunset clauses.

Labour recognises the vital role that cross-border agencies such as Eurojust and Europol have played in making Britain safer and that European Arrest Warrants have been invaluable. A Labour government will seek to retain membership of these agencies and continue European Arrest Warrant arrangements.

Labour will seek a Brexit deal that delivers for all regions and nations of the UK. We will introduce a ‘presumption of devolution’ where devolved powers transferred from the EU will go straight to the relevant region or nation.

We will ensure there is no drop in EU Structural Funding as a result of Brexit until the end of the current EU funding round in 2019/20.

Where Theresa May wants to shut down scrutiny and challenge, Labour will welcome it. We will work with Parliament, not against it. On an issue of this importance the Government can’t hide from the public or Parliament.

A Labour approach to Brexit also means legislating to guarantee that Parliament has a truly meaningful vote on the final Brexit deal.

Freedom of movement will end when we leave the European Union.

We will end indefnite detentions and distinguish between migrant labour and family attachment and will continue to support the work of the Forced Marriage Unit. We will replace income thresholds with a prohibition on recourse to public funds.

Labour will crack down on unscrupulous employers. We will stop overseas-only recruitment practices, strengthen safety-at-work inspections and increase prosecutions of employers evading the minimum wage.

For areas where immigration has placed a strain on public services we will reinstate the Migrant Impact Fund and boost it with a contributory element from the investments required for High Net Worth Individual Visas.

Labour will set out our priorities in an International Trade White Paper to lead a national debate on the future of Britain’s trade policy. We will ensure proper transparency and parliamentary scrutiny of all future trade and investment deals.

Labour will champion the export interests of SMEs, ensuring all new trade agreements include a commitment to support their market access needs. We will develop an export incentive scheme for SMEs based on international best practice, and we will ring-fence Tradeshow Access Programme grants to help SMEs reach new customers around the world.

And that isn't even all of it. I wish people on this forum would stop saying things that aren't actually true, and do their research first.

[the truth]

Pathetic.No facts no figures, mostly platitudes and false promises. A totally ambivalent spineless referendum campaign, labour voters were asked and even they didnt know where corbyn stood for. They spend the last 20 years calling anyone who wanted out of the eu racist. remember gordon sucking up to that labour woman they behind her back he calls her a bigot gets caught on camera and spends he rest fo the day at her house apologising...blair gifted the eu our rebate and brown signed the unreadable 500+ page constitution behind everyones backs. what a joke.

[Kizzy]

Not my words... :idc:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-racism-immigrant-prejudice-major-factor-leave-vote-win-study-a7801676.html

[Vicky.]

And that isn't even all of it. I wish people on this forum would stop saying things that aren't actually true, and do their research first.

Tbf its much easier to just read tabloid stories than it is to actually research things :laugh:

I am sick of hearing the word Brexit now tbh. Can't believe its only been a year since the vote, seems like this crap has gone on for my whole life D:

[Brillopad]

http://www.westmonster.com/55-of-europeans-believe-another-country-will-leave-eu-within-10-years/

Inevitable. The bloc is finished. The control freaks have pushed too far.

[the truth]

http://www.westmonster.com/55-of-europeans-believe-another-country-will-leave-eu-within-10-years/

Inevitable. The bloc is finished. The control freaks have pushed too far.

lets defeat the germans again

[Brillopad]

http://brexitcentral.com/house-lords-not-dare-block-legislation-giving-effect-decision-made-brexit-referendum/

I agree with this. It would open too big a can of worms.

[Tom4784]

I imagine anyone that was going to oppose Brexit are happy enough now that we have a weak and malleable minority government in charge. We aren't going to get a hard brexit with this government and anyone who did want a hard brexit and voted Tory only have themselves to blame.

[Brillopad]

I imagine anyone that was going to oppose Brexit are happy enough now that we have a weak and malleable minority government in charge. We aren't going to get a hard brexit with this government and anyone who did want a hard brexit and voted Tory only have themselves to blame.

You and this 'blame' thing you have going on. People can just as easily throw those types of silly comments at you if Corbyn ever gets in and cocks up as he will inevitably do.

People still don't seem to understand how left wing he is. Things under him will collapse, he will either renege on his promises or run the country into the ground and those that voted for him out of desperation and out of fear of more austetity may well find they have jumped out of three frying pan and straight into the fire.

[Tom4784]

You and this 'blame' thing you have going on. People can just as easily throw those types of silly comments at you if Corbyn ever gets in and cocks up as he will inevitably do.

People still don't seem to understand how left wing he is. Things under him will collapse, he will either renege on his promises or run the country into the ground and those that voted for him out of desperation and out of fear of more austetity may well find they have jumped out of three frying pan and straight into the fire.

This obsession with Corbyn....

[Brillopad]

This obsession with Corbyn....

I might also point out your apparent obsession with me and my posts. l'm too old for you. :nono:

[Tom4784]

I might also point out your apparent obsession with me and my posts. l'm too old for you. :nono:

I responded to a thread with my own opinion, none of which was related to you to which you responded with a personal jibe and a rant about Corbyn that didn't relate to the thread but was meant as an attack on my political beliefs.

I think you are projecting your issues onto me tbh.

[Brillopad]

I responded to a thread with my own opinion, none of which was related to you to which you responded with a personal jibe and a rant about Corbyn that didn't relate to the thread but was meant as an attack on my political beliefs.

I think you are projecting your issues onto me tbh.

That's you, not me. Actually you were jumping on a band wagon of a couple of others trying to undermine my opinions by calling me obsessed. What part of him being a very public figure with a dodgy history trying to be PM and therefore being newsworthy and up for public scrutiny do some posters not understand. I won't be 'scared off' with such nonsence.

[Tom4784]

That's you, not me.

Case in point.

[Brillopad]

Case in point.

In whose book your's not mine. Anyway I am not going to play your games any more as I as a non-mod will be the obvious loser. I will not respond to any more of your posts so you can respond with your drama all you like in the clear knowledge you will not be challenged. What strength - enjoy!

[Tom4784]

I will continue to use my right an opinion to comment on any thread I like, thank you!

[jaxie]

I might also point out your apparent obsession with me and my posts. l'm too old for you. :nono:

Is there love in the air? :eek:

[Brillopad]

Is there love in the air? :eek:

Think I'd prefer Corbyn and he's way too old for me. :nono:

[Brillopad]

https://www.rt.com/news/393885-eu-refugees-visa-restrictions/

A step in the right direction. Most of these people are not refugees, especially all the lone males coming in en masse from Africa. We are a small island who cannot provide haven for the world's economic migrants.

[Brillopad]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/821124/Brexiteer-MP-Remainer-Gina-Miller-Brexit-Rees-Mogg

Thanks Ms Miller the last laugh is on the Leaves. What a stupid woman.

It's just hillarious how this pompous woman thought she was going to stop Brexit when her actions actually ensured it became law and there was no going back.

[Brillopad]

nnnnn.

[Brillopad]

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