View Full Version : Does this man actually think before making rash promises
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 07:53 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/23/jeremy-corbyns-plan-pay-16-year-olds-10-living-wage-could-price/
As if most of us weren't aware that the kind of rash promises reeled out at election time wouldn't be problematic. All that naive and premature jubilation. :shrug:
Smithy
24-06-2017, 08:23 AM
Do you not have anything better to do than google and post Jeremy Corbyn articles all day?
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 08:40 AM
Do you not have anything better to do than google and post Jeremy Corbyn articles all day?
It is current news and very relevant to all of us. Just because anti-Corbyn opinions don't suit your political views doesn't mean they can't be addressed.
There have been plenty of anti-May threads and posts so, in the interests of fairness, all viewpoints and related news sources should be aired. :hee:
It is current news and very relevant to all of us. Just because anti-Corbyn opinions don't suit your political views doesn't mean they can't be addressed.
There have been plenty of anti-May threads and posts so, in the interests of fairness, all viewpoints and related news sources should be aired. :hee:
Anti-May threads from the past week: 1
Anti-Corbyn threads from the past week: 7 (all of which were started by you)
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 09:30 AM
Anti-May threads from the past week: 1
Anti-Corbyn threads from the past week: 7 (all of which were started by you)
And?
One week is nothing! Maybe you should go back further if it bothers you so much.
Kazanne
24-06-2017, 09:32 AM
Anti-May threads from the past week: 1
Anti-Corbyn threads from the past week: 7 (all of which were started by you)
Does it matter :shrug: why does it bother you so much,you dont have to take part in them.
Kazanne
24-06-2017, 09:34 AM
Anti-May threads from the past week: 1
Anti-Corbyn threads from the past week: 7 (all of which were started by you)
maybe Corbyns been more of a twat :hehe:
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 09:36 AM
maybe Corbyns been more of a twat :hehe:
Exactly. I thought it was an interesting and fact-based article. Maybe that's why TS has such a problem with it! :hee:
Toy Soldier
24-06-2017, 09:39 AM
Does it matter :shrug: why does it bother you so much,you dont have to take part in them.
I'd say Brillo (and a couple of notable others) constantly spamming SD with what is essentially the same thread over, and over, and over again every single day probably bothers a lot of people who use this forum... but that's just a guess. Since the GE 16 days ago - Brillo has stared ELEVEN threads that are explicitly anti-corbyn / anti-labour in the title. Just Brillo. Several other threads that purport to be about other issues in the title... but reveal themselves to be anti-corbyn within a post or two. It's getting ridiculous.
Oh and that's not to mention other people's threads about completely unrelated things where Brillo enters within the first few posts to say "O yeh but WHAT ABOUT CORBYN".
Perhaps there should be an "anti-corbyn stuff" sticky and all of the threads can be merged into that?
And?
One week is nothing! Maybe you should go back further if it bothers you so much.
Does it matter :shrug: why does it bother you so much,you dont have to take part in them.
Because you claim it's in the name of "balance", yet making a new anti-Corbyn thread every day when there isn't anything near as frequent on the other side is anything but balanced
Considering they all seem to amount to the same thing (you're not a Corbyn fan, we get it), you might as well just have your own Corbyn megathread and have done with it - it'll save on all the times you have to click 'new thread' after all...
Toy Soldier
24-06-2017, 09:42 AM
Exactly. I thought it was an interesting and fact-based article. Maybe that's why TS has such a problem with it! :hee:
It's an agenda driven article full of supposition but, to be frank, at this point I just have very little interest in discussing these articles you keep spamming because - much like the papers - your own reasons for posting them are always the same and we've heard it all before, so, so many times.
Smithy
24-06-2017, 09:42 AM
Personally I just find it sad that someone is so obsessed with hating someone else, why not make pro may threads instead? :shrug:
Toy Soldier
24-06-2017, 09:44 AM
Why not make pro may threads instead? :shrug:
I'm not sure anyone has such a vivid imagination that they could make a new pro-May thread every day :joker:.
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 09:45 AM
It's an agenda driven article full of supposition but, to be frank, at this point I just have very little interest in discussing these articles you keep spamming because - much like the papers - your own reasons for posting them are always the same and we've heard it all before, so, so many times.
Is it such an effort not to click on the thread? If you don't like the title, then don't bother. We are all free to do either that or post a critique - you usually do the latter which is your choice.
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 09:48 AM
Personally I just find it sad that someone is so obsessed with hating someone else, why not make pro may threads instead? :shrug:
How one-sided is that. I don't see you saying that to all the May haters who are often a lot more personal and vitriolic about her even down to insulting her appearance. Talk about an unbalanced and unfair post.
joeysteele
24-06-2017, 10:01 AM
Anti-May threads from the past week: 1
Anti-Corbyn threads from the past week: 7 (all of which were started by you)
Even those who detest Corbyn cannot stop acting out their obsession to try,although not succeeding,in discrediting him.
While they will never admit the failings of the one they give adoring and undying support to,namely Mrs May.
Many Labour people on here,myself included,had and have reservations as to him but even to us,he has done admittedly far better than we believed possible.
I admit I detest Mrs May as a politician,I have never said anything different on here since joining,I didn't like her even before I joined here.
Because I can't stand the woman,I have not and would not make a,good or bad, single thread about her never mind endless multiple ones.
Corbyn now must really be admired or feared now as a political campaigner and leader,as to friend and foe alike.
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 10:12 AM
Even those who detest Corbyn cannot stop acting out their obsession to try,although not succeeding,in discrediting him.
While they will never admit the failings of the one they give adoring and undying support to,namely Mrs May.
Many Labour people on here,myself included,had and have reservations as to him but even to us,he has done admittedly far better than we believed possible.
I admit I detest Mrs May as a politician,I have never said anything different on here since joining,I didn't like her even before I joined here.
Because I can't stand the woman,I have not and would not make a,good or bad, single thread about her never mind endless multiple ones.
Corbyn now must really be admired or feared now as a political campaigner and leader,as to friend and foe alike.
I don't personally insult his appearance like many Corbyn supporters do to May. Now that is low.
I condem his impractical policies, his history and his unfetered grab on power due to mass hysteria from desperate people jumping on a band-wagon of seeing this man as the second-coming who will cure all their woes. It is sad.
If you know so much you explain why the article is wrong. I bet you can't.
Withano
24-06-2017, 10:19 AM
You're obsessed.
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 10:32 AM
You're obsessed.
Nope - but I don't respond to attempted intimidation such as name-calling. Sticks and stones.
One has to ask themselves why some have such a problem with me posting several threads on a politician currently trying to become PM. He is news and his policies and motives are open to scrutiny.
Kazanne
24-06-2017, 10:43 AM
Nope - but I don't respond to attempted intimidation such as name-calling. Sticks and stones.
One has to ask themselves why some have such a problem with me posting several threads on a politician currently trying to become PM. He is news and his policies and motives are open to scrutiny.
Yes it does seem some are trying to shut you down brillo,they have no problem when hating on TM,so i dont see their problem,afterall it is your opinion ,isn't that what we are all here for to vent our opinions, if they dont like the subject just pass it by,it's easy,I do it all the time,but you have a nice little band on your back there,I hope your shoulders are broard:wavey:
DemolitionRed
24-06-2017, 10:43 AM
This is one thing I'm going to side with Brillo about. I don't believe increasing the minimum wage is going to greatly benefit low paid earners because it will very likely create unemployment.
Most poor people are living on one to one and a half minimum wage salaries. When that minimum wage rises, so do the costs of products we buy... they have to. The people who will really benefit from this are the middle earners (a partner who is earning above the minimum wage and the second earner who works on a minimum wage but doesn't really have to work if they don't want to).
One thing Blair did was bring in tax credit for low earners and encourage 'in work benefits' and I believe this greatly helped bottom end earners without threatening jobs. Unfortunately the Tories have been cutting these benefits with zest and this is having a detrimental affect on the working poor. Corbyn should be re-instating these wage top-ups in my opinion, instead of increasing the minimum wage.
Edited to say: Rising the minimum wage could hurt the people we most want to help.
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 10:49 AM
Yes it does seem some are trying to shut you down brillo,they have no problem when hating on TM,so i dont see their problem,afterall it is your opinion ,isn't that what we are all here for to vent our opinions, if they dont like the subject just pass it by,it's easy,I do it all the time,but you have a nice little band on your back there,I hope your shoulders are broard:wavey:
Depends on my day. But generally. :hee:
DemolitionRed
24-06-2017, 11:05 AM
Like TS suggested, we really do need to have a sticky for all things May and all things Corbyn.
joeysteele
24-06-2017, 11:10 AM
Because you claim it's in the name of "balance", yet making a new anti-Corbyn thread every day when there isn't anything near as frequent on the other side is anything but balanced
Considering they all seem to amount to the same thing (you're not a Corbyn fan, we get it), you might as well just have your own Corbyn megathread and have done with it - it'll save on all the times you have to click 'new thread' after all...
Again,totally valid points.
However look,I think all publicity is good publicity, so if Corbyn haters want to talk about him that's fine by me.
It means they likely see he is heading for greater success.
What they don't do however is balance their seemingly endless energy against Corbyn on justified or unjustified reasoning,with any real criticism of Mrs May or whoever other leader they support.
It actually amuses me that the people raising threads and therefore talking about Corbyn are in the main his band of haters.
He certainly has many rattled it seems.
That's all good in my book.
Again,all publicity is good publicity,from wherever or whoever it comes from.
Withano
24-06-2017, 11:26 AM
Nope - but I don't respond to attempted intimidation such as name-calling. Sticks and stones.
One has to ask themselves why some have such a problem with me posting several threads on a politician currently trying to become PM. He is news and his policies and motives are open to scrutiny.
What do you mean nope lol? You read at least 1 article about him a day, instead of ignoring them. Considering being most people don't post every single thing they read, I'm guessing you read a hell of a lot more than one a day. That's bordering on obsession! It's not an insult. We all have topics of interests, Corbyn is clearly yours.
I agree though, you could make a single anti-Corbyn thread and make tibb and yourself less one dimensional looking. Something tells me you want the reaction, and not the debate though.
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 11:32 AM
Again,totally valid points.
However look,I think all publicity is good publicity, so if Corbyn haters want to talk about him that's fine by me.
It means they likely see he is heading for greater success.
What they don't do however is balance their seemingly endless energy against Corbyn on justified or unjustified reasoning,with any real criticism of Mrs May or whoever other leader they support.
It actually amuses me that the people raising threads and therefore talking about Corbyn are in the main his band of haters.
He certainly has many rattled it seems.
That's all good in my book.
Again,all publicity is good publicity,from wherever or whoever it comes from.
You wish. It's not about being rattled it's about drawing attention to matters such as how a minimum of £10/hr for 16 year olds will only serve to reduce jobs for young people - something not mentioned by Corbyn. Only two reasons for that I can think of, either a lack of 'thinking' on his part or dishonesty and intentionally withholding that information. Which do you believe it is I wonder. As a Corbyn supporter no wonder you don't want people like me posting it on here.
I like to point out and challenge things that I feel people need to be aware of, before and if, we get landed with him as PM. Please tell me exactly what is wrong with that. We are still a free country I believe. PC has not done it's worst - yet.
Kazanne
24-06-2017, 11:45 AM
What do you mean nope lol? You read at least 1 article about him a day, instead of ignoring them. Considering being most people don't post every single thing they read, I'm guessing you read a hell of a lot more than one a day. That's bordering on obsession! It's not an insult. We all have topics of interests, Corbyn is clearly yours.
I agree though, you could make a single anti-Corbyn thread and make tibb and yourself less one dimensional looking. Something tells me you want the reaction, and not the debate though.
Maybe brillo likes to read and educate herself and what its to do with you how many times she reads stuff ? If she doesn't like Corbyn she doesn't have to ,but she can certainly comment and give her opinions on the subject she is passionate about,although it's mostly wasted on here.This tit for tat thing is so childish,loads of people hate TM are we crying about it ? NO.
DemolitionRed
24-06-2017, 11:56 AM
I thought Corbyn was taking away wage restrictions in the 21-24 year old age bracket. I haven't read anything about 16-21 year olds?
We need to also keep in mind that Osborne pledged an increase to £9 by 2020.
Withano
24-06-2017, 11:57 AM
Maybe brillo likes to read and educate herself and what its to do with you how many times she reads stuff ? If she doesn't like Corbyn she doesn't have to ,but she can certainly comment and give her opinions on the subject she is passionate about,although it's mostly wasted on here.This tit for tat thing is so childish,loads of people hate TM are we crying about it ? NO.
Of course thats why - she likes to educate herself on it (albeit, through biased sources) - Corbyn is her topic of interest, clearly, and she reads because shes interested in it, thats absolutely fine, I applaud that actually. We all have topics of interest, its just nobody else feels the need to make 7 threads a week on it.
I personally wouldnt make 7 threads a week on my fave subject because it seems a bit spammy, and it would obviously irritate others on the forum... and I think the reactions are a reflection of that and not 'childish tit for tat' like youre (rudely) suggesting...
I'm not sure why other members don't make 7 threads a week on their favourite topic, its not a question ive ever asked myself.. its a pretty interesting qu though, why arent you doing that?
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 12:01 PM
Maybe brillo likes to read and educate herself and what its to do with you how many times she reads stuff ? If she doesn't like Corbyn she doesn't have to ,but she can certainly comment and give her opinions on the subject she is passionate about,although it's mostly wasted on here.This tit for tat thing is so childish,loads of people hate TM are we crying about it ? NO.
It makes me laugh how some Non-Corbyn supporters get accused by some Corbyn supporters of being 'obsessed' or of feeling 'threatened' by him for regularly drawing attention to any faults, weaknesses or innacuracies, by posting articles about these issues - when the very fact they are so bothered about it is the biggest tell-tale sign of all that they are the ones that feel threatened by it and want such articles 'hushed-up'.
Some of course may pose a bigger threat than others but I generally try to post from reasonable/good sources.
As you rightly say Kaz those behind the Conservatives and May are not getting all worked-up about anti-May threads, some of which have been quite nasty. It is ridiculous. :hehe:
Withano
24-06-2017, 12:01 PM
Everyone is obsessed by their favourite topic...
DemolitionRed
24-06-2017, 12:03 PM
Just looked at the Labour Manifesto and here is a direct copy...A new living wage for all
Labour says it will raise the minimum wage to the level of the “Living Wage (expected to be at least £10 per hour by 2020)”. This would apply to all workers aged 18 or over.
Kazanne
24-06-2017, 12:04 PM
It makes me laugh how some Non-Corbyn supporters get accused by some Corbyn supporters of being 'obsessed' or of feeling 'threatened' by him for regularly drawing attention to any faults, weaknesses or innacuracies, by posting articles about these issues - when the very fact they are so bothered about it is the biggest tell-tale sign of all that they are the ones that feel threatened by it and want such articles 'hushed-up'.
Some of course may pose a bigger threat than others but I generally try to post from reasonable/good sources.
As you rightly say Kaz those behind the Conservatives and May are not getting all worked-up about anti-May threads, some of which have been quite nasty. It is ridiculous. :hehe:
Keep posting them,I have learnt quite a lot from various links on this site,I find it all quite interesting:wavey:
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 12:06 PM
Of course thats why - she likes to educate herself on it (albeit, through biased sources) - Corbyn is her topic of interest, clearly, and she reads because shes interested in it, thats absolutely fine, I applaud that actually. We all have topics of interest, its just nobody else feels the need to make 7 threads a week on it.
I personally wouldnt make 7 threads a week on my fave subject because it seems a bit spammy, and it would obviously irritate others on the forum... and I think the reactions are a reflection of that and not 'childish tit for tat' like youre (rudely) suggesting...
I'm not sure why other members don't make 7 threads a week on their favourite topic, its not a question ive ever asked myself.. its a pretty interesting qu though, why arent you doing that?
Biased sources - many Articles have been from the Independent, Guardian and Telegraph - papers you don't have a problem with when quoted by Corbyn supporters.
In fact I go out of my way not to post from the DM to avoid giving the DM haters on here any excuse to throw that one out there. I believe I have provided articles from wider sources than many on here. More biased nonsence on your part.
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 12:09 PM
Just looked at the Labour Manifesto and here is a direct copy...A new living wage for all
Labour says it will raise the minimum wage to the level of the “Living Wage (expected to be at least £10 per hour by 2020)”. This would apply to all workers aged 18 or over.
I believe he has now said he wants to include 16 year-olds in that. Besides if if applied at 18 that is still pretty young from an employers' perspective with not many 18 year-olds having many skills or work experience and so the same issues such as preferring older more skilled workers is still likely to apply.
Toy Soldier
24-06-2017, 12:14 PM
I think the question of raising minimum wage and the question of wage discrepancy by age is totally different, though. Yes there is a huge economic question mark over minimum wage increases and I agree with DR that tax credits are actually a better solution than endless wage increases that only serve to drive up prices and reduce employment levels.
However in my opinion nothing - absolutely NOTHING - can justify paying 18-to-25 year olds less than over 25's doing the same job. Under 18's, for so long as full time education is mandatory until 18, is more open to debate but once someone legally reaches adulthood - 18 - they should be paid exactly the same as anyone else to do the job that they are hired to do. The minimum wage, whatever it is set at, should apply to everyone aged 18 or over equally.
The majority of large companies already do anyway to be honest. I know mine doesn't pay the under-25s less than over-25s in the cashier role (about 30p above minimum wage I believe).
Jack_
24-06-2017, 12:38 PM
I'm beginning to think you have a crush on Jeremy Corbyn
In all seriousness though, I agree with the idea of an anti-Corbyn thread for all these articles, a bit like that Katie Price one Omah had where it was just him posting to himself for like three years
Tom4784
24-06-2017, 12:41 PM
Can you just start a 'I hate Jeremy Corbyn thread' and keep all the articles to that? Most of these articles aren't really worthy of their own thread.
DemolitionRed
24-06-2017, 01:00 PM
If I was to meet any Labour economists, the first question I would be asking them is, how can you predict extra productivity by 2020 if you're not in government until then?
We know that when money gets spent in the real economy, it drives economic growth. If the demand is there, we maximize productivity and our economy expands. The situation we are presently in however, is, we are sitting on low productivity because the Tory government are ideologically opposed to human capital and technology.
Its going to take Labour fiscal policies a number of years to turn our stagnant economy around. If they don't get in until 2020 and commit to this promise, they will be lifting wages on low productivity and that can only mean one thing... inflation.
I understand enough about macroeconomics to get what Labour economists are trying to achieve (I'm not talking about the minimum wage) and the forecasts look positive and very possible, I wouldn't be voting for them otherwise, but I don't understand what's going on here with the minimum wage.
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 01:19 PM
Can you just start a 'I hate Jeremy Corbyn thread' and keep all the articles to that? Most of these articles aren't really worthy of their own thread.
You would say that wouldn't you. Hardly unbiased!
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 01:25 PM
I'm beginning to think you have a crush on Jeremy Corbyn
In all seriousness though, I agree with the idea of an anti-Corbyn thread for all these articles, a bit like that Katie Price one Omah had where it was just him posting to himself for like three years
There you go with the thinly veiled attempts to either shut me up or undermine my opinions. Pretty tacky really and hardly worthy of someone who sees himself as an intellect.
Am I supposed to be worried that people might think I fancy Corbyn. If I were into old men , Corbyn wouldn't be one of them. Who would even think that other than someone who finds him attractive themselves. :hee:
Jack_
24-06-2017, 01:31 PM
There you go with the thinly veiled attempts to either shut me up or undermine my opinions. Pretty tacky really and hardly worthy of someone who sees himself as an intellect.
Am I supposed to be worried that people might think I fancy Corbyn. If I were into old men , Corbyn wouldn't be one of them. Who would even think that other than someone who finds him attractive themselves. :hee:
It's called a joke, but Santa Corbyn is a bit of a DILF I'll give you that
Tom4784
24-06-2017, 01:34 PM
You would say that wouldn't you. Hardly unbiased!
I'd say the same to anyone that flooded SD with the same threads about May, thanks for the hypocritical personal attacks though, much appreciated.
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 01:38 PM
I'd say the same to anyone that flooded SD with the same threads about May, thanks for the hypocritical personal attacks though, much appreciated.
How was that a personal attack? It seems to me you are either being very over-sensitive about my posts or trying to get me to say something I can be banned for. :shrug:
My posts to you are no different than to anyone else. If you can prove they are - be my guest. Fed up with you now.
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 01:48 PM
https://www.rt.com/uk/393756-rupert-murdoch-hackney-abused/
What a grade A plonker.
Tom4784
24-06-2017, 01:55 PM
How was that a personal attack? It seems to me you are either being very over-sensitive about my posts or trying to get me to say something I can be banned for. :shrug:
My posts to you are no different than to anyone else. If you can prove they are - be my guest. Fed up with you now.
If someone said the things you say to other people then you'd freak out over it, you say other people are sensitive but you lose your **** over the tiniest thing, again this is an example of you projecting your flaws onto other people.
Greg!
24-06-2017, 01:58 PM
The exact same arguments were made against the introduction of the minimum wage which turned out to be untrue. Lots of businesses just want to pay their employees as little as possible.
Tom4784
24-06-2017, 02:03 PM
The exact same arguments were made against the introduction of the minimum wage which turned out to be untrue. Lots of businesses just want to pay their employees as little as possible.
True.
Brillopad
24-06-2017, 02:09 PM
It's called a joke, but Santa Corbyn is a bit of a DILF I'll give you that
Too old, too left and too half asleep for my tastes. I like someone with more oomph. :hee:
I don't personally insult his appearance like many Corbyn supporters do to May. Now that is low.
I condem his impractical policies, his history and his unfetered grab on power due to mass hysteria from desperate people jumping on a band-wagon of seeing this man as the second-coming who will cure all their woes. It is sad.
If you know so much you explain why the article is wrong. I bet you can't.
In a nutshell!
Keep up the good work Brillo - I read all your threads with interest. You have the measure of the man.
Marsh.
25-06-2017, 01:32 AM
I'd say Brillo (and a couple of notable others) constantly spamming SD with what is essentially the same thread over, and over, and over again every single day probably bothers a lot of people who use this forum... but that's just a guess. Since the GE 16 days ago - Brillo has stared ELEVEN threads that are explicitly anti-corbyn / anti-labour in the title. Just Brillo. Several other threads that purport to be about other issues in the title... but reveal themselves to be anti-corbyn within a post or two. It's getting ridiculous.
Oh and that's not to mention other people's threads about completely unrelated things where Brillo enters within the first few posts to say "O yeh but WHAT ABOUT CORBYN".
Perhaps there should be an "anti-corbyn stuff" sticky and all of the threads can be merged into that?
:clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Marsh.
25-06-2017, 01:34 AM
Too old, too left and too half asleep for my tastes. I like someone with more oomph. :hee:
Well May looks half dead so don't expect any oomph from that corpse.
I'd say Brillo (and a couple of notable others) constantly spamming SD with what is essentially the same thread over, and over, and over again every single day probably bothers a lot of people who use this forum... but that's just a guess. Since the GE 16 days ago - Brillo has stared ELEVEN threads that are explicitly anti-corbyn / anti-labour in the title. Just Brillo. Several other threads that purport to be about other issues in the title... but reveal themselves to be anti-corbyn within a post or two. It's getting ridiculous.
Oh and that's not to mention other people's threads about completely unrelated things where Brillo enters within the first few posts to say "O yeh but WHAT ABOUT CORBYN".
Perhaps there should be an "anti-corbyn stuff" sticky and all of the threads can be merged into that?
I'd read it - and you would too since you seem to post in them all...:laugh:
I like negative threads about supporters like Corbyn of mass murders of women and children and opportunistic posers again like Corbyn with unrealistic promises who see themselves as the second coming. What's your excuse?
Brillopad
25-06-2017, 07:44 AM
I'd read it - and you would too since you seem to post in them all...:laugh:
I like negative threads about supporters like Corbyn of mass murders of women and children and opportunistic posers again like Corbyn with unrealistic promises who see themselves as the second coming. What's your excuse?
Very good point.
Toy Soldier
25-06-2017, 09:23 AM
I'd read it - and you would too since you seem to post in them all...[emoji23]
I like negative threads about supporters like Corbyn of mass murders of women and children and opportunistic posers again like Corbyn with unrealistic promises who see themselves as the second coming. What's your excuse?
I probably would read it and post in it, yes. One thread is fine. We don't need 50.
As for. "what's my excuse"; I'm not really sure what exactly you're trying to ask me here? My excuse for what? Being totally honest I think you're so far off the handle at this point with the Corbyn stuff that's there's not a whole lot of point in trying to have a discussion with you about it. I'm not a Corbyn "stan", I do think all of the worship and one-sided lauding of him as "the answer" is way over the top... But your own posts are not any more balanced, they're just as over the top from the opposite perspective.
I actually wish there could be a level-headed discussion thread about Corbyn without someone jumping in within the first two minutes to either praise him as the second coming who will "fix britain" overnight, OR the ludicrous rants and demonisation.
I realised a long time ago that this is no longer the forum for that, though. Two years ago, maybe it was. Not today.
Kizzy
25-06-2017, 09:37 AM
Personally I just find it sad that someone is so obsessed with hating someone else, why not make pro may threads instead? :shrug:
Because there are no pro may articles to quote... it's all bad news, failings and U turns.
Like TS I'm sick of seeing SD gummed up with nonsense anti Corbyn threads and agree it's basically spamming.
Brillopad
25-06-2017, 09:50 AM
Because there are no pro may articles to quote... it's all bad news, failings and U turns.
Like TS I'm sick of seeing SD gummed up with nonsense anti Corbyn threads and agree it's basically spamming.
In politics both sides should be heard whether one side likes it or not. Objecting is tantamount to a tantrum.
Several threads on how a political candidate conducts himself is relevant at this time and hurts no-one - as no-one is forced to enter a thread and read the contents.
Kizzy
25-06-2017, 09:58 AM
In politics both sides should be heard whether one side likes it or not. Objecting is tantamount to a tantrum.
Several threads on how a political candidate conducts himself is relevant at this time and hurts no-one - as no-one is forced to enter a thread and read the contents.
That is true however the balance is tipping that is obvious.
Tom4784
25-06-2017, 01:41 PM
In politics both sides should be heard whether one side likes it or not. Objecting is tantamount to a tantrum.
Several threads on how a political candidate conducts himself is relevant at this time and hurts no-one - as no-one is forced to enter a thread and read the contents.
You literally painted the whole of Glastonbury as drunken stoners for supporting Corbyn, you've suggested people are terrorist sympathisers for not sharing your opinion, you regularly slate the younger generations for being young because they don't typically share your views.
The lack of self awareness is astounding.
Brillopad
25-06-2017, 02:08 PM
You literally painted the whole of Glastonbury as drunken stoners for supporting Corbyn, you've suggested people are terrorist sympathisers for not sharing your opinion, you regularly slate the younger generations for being young because they don't typically share your views.
The lack of self awareness is astounding.
Your interpretation my friend. I would say your lack of self- awareness is pretty astounding and I know I wouldn't be the only one.
Tom4784
25-06-2017, 05:25 PM
Your interpretation my friend. I would say your lack of self- awareness is pretty astounding and I know I wouldn't be the only one.
Can you actually respond to anything without essentially saying 'i know you are but what am I?'
Most people grew out of that in Nursery.
Brillopad
25-06-2017, 05:28 PM
Can you actually respond to anything without essentially saying 'i know you are but what am I?'
Most people grew out of that in Nursery.
Well you weren't one of them.
the truth
25-06-2017, 06:03 PM
he's a false prophet and by far the most dangerous man 8n Britain. ...he will bankrupt us destroy jobs and ambition.he wants us to be me cuba
Marsh.
25-06-2017, 06:12 PM
Well you weren't one of them.
:umm2:
DemolitionRed
25-06-2017, 06:53 PM
he's a false prophet and by far the most dangerous man 8n Britain. ...he will bankrupt us destroy jobs and ambition.he wants us to be me cuba
How can he bankrupt a country that has a central bank? Serious question btw.
Brillopad
25-06-2017, 06:55 PM
How can he bankrupt a country that has a central bank? Serious question btw.
He will be as successful as Gina Miller has been in her pathetic attempts to tharwt Brexit. She strengthened it.
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