It was AFD yesterday - should JC have attended an AF event

[Brillopad]

https://www.armedforcesday.org.uk/

After seeing a comment from another poster it made me think how the labour leader, who believes he will PM in a few short months, would have better spent his time showing support and respect for our armed forces and all they do for this country by attending one of their events on armed Forces Day. Instead he chose to attend Glastonberry where he was made to feel like a God.

Or should we have expected no more than we got from a man who defended the non-deportation of British home-grown ISIS terrorists on return to Britain after their killing spree.

[Kizzy]

He was at Glastonbury inspiring people, here is May in Liverpool... The town the tories are most known for being loved in.

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[Kazanne]

He was at Glastonbury inspiring people, here is May in Liverpool... The town the tories are most known for being loved in.

rrvCalAVNYE

People are just ignorant who boo and jostle anyone at that sort of ceremony,just morons wanting their 5 mins,they cant even show respect there, so sorry ,TM imo was doing what a good leader should be doing supporting our troops,If people want to shout and heckle like fishwives there is a time and a place.

[Brillopad]

He was at Glastonbury inspiring people, here is May in Liverpool... The town the tories are most known for being loved in.

rrvCalAVNYE

Inspiring all these youngsters having fun in a skunk filled haze. Nevermind our brave soldiers. The political priorities of JC.

[Firewire]

It stinks of desperation in here

[Brillopad]

It stinks of desperation in here

Can't take the heat .....

[Brillopad]

It stinks of desperation in here

It's called fighting fire with fire.

[Kizzy]

Inspiring all these youngsters having fun in a skunk filled haze. Nevermind our brave soldiers. The political priorities of JC.

How has May inspired anyone? her being there is not a guarantee that armed forces are her priority. Unless you consider ensuring a steady stream of cannon fodder a priority? That's one priority I'm glad Corbyn does not have.

Have you even heard his speech from yesterday?

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[Brillopad]

How has May inspired anyone? her being there is not a guarantee that armed forces are her priority. Unless you consider ensuring a steady stream of cannon fodder a priority? That's one priority I'm glad Corbyn does not have.

Have you even heard his speech from yesterday?

YuGlHx6s14c

A politician aspiring to being PM not being there is a guarantee that the armed forces are not his. He couldn't make it any clearer.

[MB.]

Shame he was booked at Glastonbury for months in advance and was only invited to the Armed Forces event yesterday morning then, isn't it

But this is the same press who tried to criticise him by calling him disrespectful for "doing a jig" at a memorial event when he was literally just walking in a straight line, so I'm not exactly surprised

[Kizzy]

Shame he was booked at Glastonbury for months in advance and was only invited to the Armed Forces event yesterday morning then, isn't it

But this is the same press who tried to criticise him by calling him disrespectful for "doing a jig" at a memorial event when he was literally just walking in a straight line, so I'm not exactly surprised

Thank you for pointing out the truth behind the spin.

[Kazanne]

It stinks of desperation in here

Why ?

[smudgie]

Disgraceful disrespect really.
But then when it comes to our armed forces I expect no different from Corbyn.

[Brillopad]

Shame he was booked at Glastonbury for months in advance and was only invited to the Armed Forces event yesterday morning then, isn't it

But this is the same press who tried to criticise him by calling him disrespectful for "doing a jig" at a memorial event when he was literally just walking in a straight line, so I'm not exactly surprised

He surely would have been aware of when the AFD would be and should have kept his diary free. It is expected of people at his level in politics and as a future PM he should want to show his support.

God help us if his does become PM and his has no respect for his own country's armed forces.

[Kizzy]

Are you presuming there are no future, serving or ex servicemen/women at Glastonbury?

Here is a good article I agree with these sentiments,

' "When people think of the great Labour government of 1945, they rightly remember its many achievements like creating the NHS. But what is often forgotten is that it was a government forged by war. Clem Atlee and other senior figures had served with Winston Churchill in the national government and were veterans of the First World War. Younger MPs were returning from action on the frontline in the war against fascism.

"Labour was a party that stood for our armed forces partly because it was a party made of people who had served their country in war. That generation of soldier MPs worked in parliament until the 1980s and their spirit is one that the modern-day Labour Party must try to recapture. Because the sad truth is that there is a creeping sense in the country that Labour is losing the trust of our armed forces."




The conservatives for decades have not only failed but shown contempt for ex service personnel with cuts in disability welfare and mental health services, do you really think that standing in Liverpool or wherever for half an hour once a year is honouring serving or ex personnel?

It's a sham, an empty gesture ... An insult.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/774293/Jeremy-Corbyn-Labour-Party-John-Woodcock-military-veterans-armed-forces-Trident

[Brillopad]

Are you presuming there are no future, serving or ex servicemen/women at Glastonbury?

Here is a good article I agree with these sentiments,

' "When people think of the great Labour government of 1945, they rightly remember its many achievements like creating the NHS. But what is often forgotten is that it was a government forged by war. Clem Atlee and other senior figures had served with Winston Churchill in the national government and were veterans of the First World War. Younger MPs were returning from action on the frontline in the war against fascism.

"Labour was a party that stood for our armed forces partly because it was a party made of people who had served their country in war. That generation of soldier MPs worked in parliament until the 1980s and their spirit is one that the modern-day Labour Party must try to recapture. Because the sad truth is that there is a creeping sense in the country that Labour is losing the trust of our armed forces."




The conservatives for decades have not only failed but shown contempt for ex service personnel with cuts in disability welfare and mental health services, do you really think that standing in Liverpool or wherever for half an hour once a year is honouring serving or ex personnel?

It's a sham, an empty gesture ... An insult.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/774293/Jeremy-Corbyn-Labour-Party-John-Woodcock-military-veterans-armed-forces-Trident

Not as big an insult as preferring to have fun at Glastonbury, being hero worshipped by the er, dare I say it , inebreated and the stoned.

[Kizzy]

So everyone at Glastonbury is drunk and high?

[joeysteele]

No, another pointless exercise.

It's all very well attending Forces events,action is far better and after the way this govt has cut the armed forces rather hypocritical too.

Just sadly another unnecessary very cheap jibe in my opinion.
Reaching out on social injustices,of which many past Soldiers are having done to them now and reaching multi thousands of people, a far better way forward.

[Northern Monkey]

People are just ignorant who boo and jostle anyone at that sort of ceremony,just morons wanting their 5 mins,they cant even show respect there, so sorry ,TM imo was doing what a good leader should be doing supporting our troops,If people want to shout and heckle like fishwives there is a time and a place.

I think they invited the BB crowd there :laugh:

[Withano]

I think its completely disrespectful her going considering the cuts theyve made. I'd imagine she'd get a similar reaction at a police/teachers/nhs event. This event was overshadowed by her negative presence and thats such a shame.

[joeysteele]

People are just ignorant who boo and jostle anyone at that sort of ceremony,just morons wanting their 5 mins,they cant even show respect there, so sorry ,TM imo was doing what a good leader should be doing supporting our troops,If people want to shout and heckle like fishwives there is a time and a place.

Mrs May, was doing what a good leader would are you for real.

What cuts to the bone has this govt made to the armed forces again, what is she really doing about ex Soldiers now unemployed and even homeless.
Many suffering mental stress and illness.

Great leader indeed,hypocrite far more appropriate for her.

[Kizzy]

At least he doesn't have to rent his crowds by the hour :hehe:

[Kizzy]

Mrs May, was doing what a good leader would are you for real.

What cuts to the bone has this govt made to the armed forces again, what is she really doing about ex Soldiers now unemployed and even homeless.
Many suffering mental stress and illness.

Great leader indeed,hypocrite far more appropriate for her.

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[Kazanne]

I think they invited the BB crowd there :laugh:

You could be onto something there NM :wavey:

[DemolitionRed]

Not as big an insult as preferring to have fun at Glastonbury, being hero worshipped by the er, dare I say it , inebreated and the stoned.

WRONG!

The masses gave him a platform and he accepted.

[DemolitionRed]

If Corbyn had gone to Liverpool, he would of totally stolen May's show and everyone would be moaning about that. He can't do right for doing wrong.

[Alf]

It stinks of desperation in hereThat might be your Gemma Collins Avatar.

[Alf]

So everyone at Glastonbury is drunk and high?And White.

[DemolitionRed]

And White.

Not because they're not wanted. Afro-Carabean cultures often don't like the idea of roughing it in muddy fields. That said, I went to Glastonbury two years ago and there were a good number of skin tones including black people.

[Withano]

And White.

What an odd thing to say

[Alf]

What an odd thing to sayAre you calling me odd?

[Kizzy]

Are you calling me odd?

Are you saying my mums fat?

[Withano]

Are you calling me odd?

Was that one post reflective of everything you are as a person?

[Withano]

Are you saying my mums fat?

:joker:

[Alf]

:joker:I told loads of jokes on this forum yesterday, and you didn't laugh at any of them. I think you're choosing your comedy by the person and not the humour.

[Withano]

I told loads of jokes on this forum yesterday, and you didn't laugh at any of them. I think you're choosing your comedy by the person and not the humour.

I mean, I find this pretty funny...

I wasnt online much yesterday, sorry I didnt laugh at your jokes. You're very funny, Alf.

[Alf]

Just remember, the Glastonbury crowd have been wrong before about bearded old men!


http://images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/232000/21232.jpg

[Brillopad]

Just remember, the Glastonbury crowd have been wrong before about bearded old men!


http://images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/232000/21232.jpg

Brilliant! :joker:

[Brillopad]

WRONG!

The masses gave him a platform and he accepted.

Of course he did. All that adoration - who wouldn't want to stand there and feel like God. He is lapping it all up while he can.

[Kizzy]

Just remember, the Glastonbury crowd have been wrong before about bearded old men!


http://images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/232000/21232.jpg

Is this you being funny again?.... :/

[Alf]

Is this you being funny again?.... :/That's not for me to say. Did you think it was funny?

[Kizzy]

That's not for me to say. Did you think it was funny?

Do you the PC answer or the non PC answer?...

[Tom4784]

So everyone at Glastonbury is drunk and high?

Obviously, they're probably young and could barely drag themselves out of bed either! Too busy being foolish and hooking up on Tinder and being traitors for not voting Tory and having an opinion that differs from that of the blame game generation because the world is in a state because of millennials and certainly not because of the poor decisions of the generations that came before!

[Alf]

Do you the PC answer or the non PC answer?...Your honest answer. You'd only be lying to yourself otherwise.

[Northern Monkey]

Just remember, the Glastonbury crowd have been wrong before about bearded old men!


http://images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/232000/21232.jpg

:joker:

[DemolitionRed]

Of course he did. All that adoration - who wouldn't want to stand there and feel like God. He is lapping it all up while he can.

If you do a little research, you will find out that he wants to run this country.

You need to stop spitting sour grapes Brillo. If this had been someone you support you wouldn't be saying any of this. Please stop sounding so bitter.

[Brillopad]

If you do a little research, you will find out that he wants to run this country.

You need to stop spitting sour grapes Brillo. If this had been someone you support you wouldn't be saying any of this. Please stop sounding so bitter.

Of course he does - and he will ruin this country with all his false promises and far left views. He is an anarchist - not PM material.

[DemolitionRed]

Of course he does - and he will ruin this country with all his false promises and far left views. He is an anarchist - not PM material.

Yawns... bored now :sleep:

[jet]

Of course he does - and he will ruin this country with all his false promises and far left views. He is an anarchist - not PM material.

That just about says it all really. :clap2:

[Tom4784]

I'd rather he do something useful then waste time doing a Theresa May and using the day to try to salvage her own public image.

Most people who aren't personally involved or related to the Armed Forces only pretend to care about AFD in order to use it as a stick to beat other people with. Most people that are slating JC probably wouldn't have known it was AFD otherwise. It's all just lip service and hypocrisy.

[the truth]

the left ate just a spoilt angry lawless mob of bullies looking for handouts and free drugs

[Crimson Dynamo]

No he was not invited and was already at Glasto as a guest of the farmer man

[Brother Leon]

They invited him to the event on the same day when he had a long term commitment to Glastonbury already. Bet the media and detractors were steaming they couldn't analyse his body language and tell us that he hates Britain had he gone though.

[smudgie]

They invited him to the event on the same day when he had a long term commitment to Glastonbury already. Bet the media and detractors were steaming they couldn't analyse his body language and tell us that he hates Britain had he gone though.

The event is held on the last Sunday of June.
He really should have had it pencilled into his diary.
Instead he chose to go to Galstonbury and promise to Michael Eavis that he will get rid of trident.:fist:

[Brillopad]

https://www.joe.co.uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-glastonbury-armed-forces-131138

His mask is slipping and his true values emerging.

[Tom4784]

The disgraceful thing is that these 'journalists' that couldn't give a **** about the armed forces any other day (where are all the stories about the troubles facing veterans?) and only bring them up to use them as a weapon to attack Corbyn with.

It's ****ing disgusting.

[Northern Monkey]

I keep thinking this thread is about the 1987 Guns n Roses album

[Alf]

I keep thinking this thread is about the 1987 Guns n Roses albumWelcome to the Jungle, we got fun and games.

[Northern Monkey]

Welcome to the Jungle, we got fun and games.

We got everything you want,Honey we know the names

[Brillopad]

The disgraceful thing is that these 'journalists' that couldn't give a **** about the armed forces any other day (where are all the stories about the troubles facing veterans?) and only bring them up to use them as a weapon to attack Corbyn with.

It's ****ing disgusting.

More should be done to help veterans - they have earned the right to special consideration. But some are a lot more concerned about the rights of migrants and religious zealots than our soldiers and only refer to the plight of our brave veterans when it suits.

[Kizzy]

More should be done to help veterans - they have earned the right to special consideration. But some are a lot more concerned about the rights of migrants and religious zealots than our soldiers and only refer to the plight of our brave veterans when it suits.

Well that's what AFD is, like valentines day it's a made up nonsense. As said why not show respect in deeds rather than some pointless appearance at an annual parade?

[Beso]

Cannon fodder when the tories are on power..neceassary defenders of the uk when labours in.

[Beso]

The disgraceful thing is that these 'journalists' that couldn't give a **** about the armed forces any other day (where are all the stories about the troubles facing veterans?) and only bring them up to use them as a weapon to attack Corbyn with.

It's ****ing disgusting.

Whats disgusting is you and lanour defending this heartless self indulgent wanker of a man.

[Tom4784]

Well that's what AFD is, like valentines day it's a made up nonsense. As said why not show respect in deeds rather than some pointless appearance at an annual parade?

I agree with this, I think someone accused JC of electioneering at Glastonbury yet AFD to politicians is nothing but an opportunity to gain points.

[Tom4784]

More should be done to help veterans - they have earned the right to special consideration. But some are a lot more concerned about the rights of migrants and religious zealots than our soldiers and only refer to the plight of our brave veterans when it suits.

Quite, I hope Theresa May and her supporters will eventually understand that.

[Tom4784]

Whats disgusting is you and lanour defending this heartless self indulgent wanker of a man.

Weak bait tbh.

[Brillopad]

Quite, I hope Theresa May and her supporters will eventually understand that.

But do you.

[Tom4784]

But do you.

'I know you are but what am I?' Change the record, graduate from the playground.

Theresa May's supporters and the media only care about the Armed Forces when they can use them to slate JC. It's nothing but godamn lip service so they can fool themselves into thinking they have the moral highground.

[Brillopad]

'I know you are but what am I?' Change the record, graduate from the playground.

Theresa May's supporters and the media only care about the Armed Forces when they can use them to slate JC. It's nothing but godamn lip service so they can fool themselves into thinking they have the moral highground.

It's not me in the playground. Corbyn doesn't even pay lip service. He has no regard for our forces whatsoever. His loyalties are not with this country they lie with anarchy and challenging the system at every turn - for is own political career, not the have-nots.

[user104658]

But do you.

'I know you are but what am I?' Change the record, graduate from the playground.

It's not me in the playground.

:joker:

[Tom4784]

It's not me in the playground. Corbyn doesn't even pay lip service. He has no regard for our forces whatsoever. His loyalties are not with this country they lie with anarchy and challenging the system at every turn - for is own political career, not the have-nots.

You're doing it again.

Paying lip service to the Armed Forces on one pointless day of the year does nothing but give people an opportunity to say 'look at me! I don't give a **** about the armed forces any other day of the year but today I do, aren't I WONDERFUL?!'

**** that, I won't make a show of my respect for the sake of others and I wouldn't expect anyone else to either. I'd rather do something useful.

[Kizzy]

Wonder if all those showing their faux compassion on AFD will throw their support behind our public services when it comes to the vote... or will the DUP earn their billion by blocking this?...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/queens-speech-labour-emergency-services-cuts-austerity-public-sector-pay-cap-a7811136.html

[Brillopad]

They invited him to the event on the same day when he had a long term commitment to Glastonbury already. Bet the media and detractors were steaming they couldn't analyse his body language and tell us that he hates Britain had he gone though.

Are you really trying to suggest he wouldn't have been aware of AFD - he should have put the date in his diary. He didn't because he has no respect for our soldiers - he knew exactly what he was doing.

If he ever becomes PM he will pose a serious threat to our security. I can't believe how naive people can be.

[Brillopad]

Wonder if all those showing their faux compassion on AFD will throw their support behind our public services when it comes to the vote... or will the DUP earn their billion by blocking this?...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/queens-speech-labour-emergency-services-cuts-austerity-public-sector-pay-cap-a7811136.html

Don't you approve of the poorer parts of Ireland getting a financial boost then.

[DemolitionRed]

If the British government really had compassion for our forces, we wouldn't have charities like these https://www.soldiersoffthestreet.org
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Corbyn does support "Veterans for Peace" and "Breaking the Silence" and he has, many times, stood in honor of the dead but the Armed Forces Day is a very new American style import that most people don't even know about.

Its all very well being celebrated as heroes or warriors but former military also need some acknowledgment from their government for doing a very difficult job.

[Kizzy]

Don't you approve of the poorer parts of Ireland getting a financial boost then.

Where in my post did I suggest that?

[Tom4784]

Don't you approve of the poorer parts of Ireland getting a financial boost then.

The money isn't for NI, it's for the DUP.

[Brillopad]

Where in my post did I suggest that?

The DUP want the money to spend on improving run down infrastructures etc in Ireland don't they - are you suggesting the money will be spent on things other than the things they say they want it for. And if so a evidence!

[Tom4784]

Are you really trying to suggest he wouldn't have been aware of AFD - he should have put the date in his diary. He didn't because he has no respect for our soldiers - he knew exactly what he was doing.

If he ever becomes PM he will pose a serious threat to our security. I can't believe how naive people can be.

Perhaps he is more concerned with helping the veterans of the armed forces on the other 364 days of the year rather than taking part in the self promoting parade that AFD has become for politicians?

AFD isn't for the veterans, it's for people to show off how 'kind and compassionate' they are by pretending to give a **** about the armed forces for the sake of social media and others. It's fake, it's lip service and it's shameful. If people honestly cared about the Armed Forces then they wouldn't have to make a show of it to impress others, they'd do something useful instead but where's the benefit in doing something charitable if they can't use it to show others how amazing they are?

Ugh.

[Brillopad]

Perhaps he is more concerned with helping the veterans of the armed forces on the other 364 days of the year rather than taking part in the self promoting parade that AFD has become for politicians?

AFD isn't for the veterans, it's for people to show off how 'kind and compassionate' they are by pretending to give a **** about the armed forces for the sake of social media and others. It's fake, it's lip service and it's shameful. If people honestly cared about the Armed Forces then they wouldn't have to make a show of it to impress others, they'd do something useful instead but where's the benefit in doing something charitable if they can't use it to show others how amazing they are?

Ugh.

What does he do on the other 364 days then! If you can't up with something one day will do.

[Kizzy]

The DUP want the money to spend on improving run down infrastructures etc in Ireland don't they - are you suggesting the money will be spent on things other than the things they say they want it for. And if so a evidence!

Stop reading what you like into my posts please....

What they intend to use the money for is not the issue, all areas of every country in the UK are crying out for improvements due to austerity imposed cuts.

The fact is the govt only agreed to the funding to secure DUP votes, had there been no agreement on that there would be no funding. That is the issue here, the DUP were bribed to ensure the govt retained office.

[Brillopad]

Stop reading what you like into my posts please....

What they intend to use the money for is not the issue, all areas of every country in the UK are crying out for improvements due to austerity imposed cuts.

The fact is the govt only agreed to the funding to secure DUP votes, had there been no agreement on that there would be no funding. That is the issue here, the DUP were bribed to ensure the govt retained office.

If Sinn Fein were needed to support a Labour government would you have had a problem with that? Corbyn has supported them in the past - it could have, could still be a possibility at some point in the future.

[Kizzy]

If Sinn Fein were needed to support a Labour government would you have had a problem with that? Corbyn has supported them in the past - it could have, could still be a possibility at some point in the future.

What has that to do with the issue of the bribe? It's yet another hypothetical.
There is no deal, Sinn Fein don't even take their seats in the commons and Labour don't have almost 2 billion of public money to give them :/

[Tom4784]

What does he do on the other 364 days then! If you can't up with something one day will do.

What's the point? If he goes people like you will find a reason to slate him for it. Better to do his own thing and do something useful then to try to appeal to the peacocks of society that only care about AFD because they think it makes them look good.

Lip service on one pointless day is easy, actually caring about the Armed Forces and doing something to help requires more effort that people who pretend to care about the Armed Forces simply aren't interested in doing.

[Tom4784]

If Sinn Fein were needed to support a Labour government would you have had a problem with that? Corbyn has supported them in the past - it could have, could still be a possibility at some point in the future.

Someone brought this hypothetical up before and it doesn't work simply because Labour would never need a coalition with Sinn Fein while their goals align with that of the SNP and the Lib Dems.

Tories have gone for the DUP deal because no other party is willing to join up with them. The DUP were their last and only resort.

The idea of a Sinn Fein/Labour coalition just isn't likely at any point but if the damn near impossible were to happen then, yes, I'd oppose them just like I would the Tory/DUP deal because I'm not a hypocrite.

[Brillopad]

Someone brought this hypothetical up before and it doesn't work simply because Labour would never need a coalition with Sinn Fein while their goals align with that of the SNP and the Lib Dems.

Tories have gone for the DUP deal because no other party is willing to join up with them. The DUP were their last and only resort.

The idea of a Sinn Fein/Labour coalition just isn't likely at any point but if the damn near impossible were to happen then, yes, I'd oppose them just like I would the Tory/DUP deal because I'm not a hypocrite.

I appreciate an honest answer.

I think many feel that from a tory, politician and voter, point of view this country would be better off with a Tory/DUP alliance than a Labour government under Corbyn - that is not about being a terrorist sympathiser but about thinking about the lesser of two 'evils'.

The DUP support the tories they don't make all the decisions. I for one feel safer with them than I do with Corbyn in charge. It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that I could have been a Labour voter this time around with a different leader and depending on their manifesto promises on several issues - but definitely not under Corbyn. I simply don't trust him on several issues - but mainly on security and immigration, which in my view are related.

[Tom4784]

I appreciate an honest answer.

I think many feel that from a tory, politician and voter, point of view this country would be better off with a Tory/DUP alliance than a Labour government under Corbyn - that is not about being a terrorist sympathiser but about thinking about the lesser of two 'evils'.

The DUP support the tories they don't make all the decisions. I for one feel safer with them than I do with Corbyn in charge. It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that I could have been a Labour voter this time around with a different leader and depending on their manifesto promises on several issues - but definitely not under Corbyn. I simply don't trust him on several issues - but mainly on security and immigration, which in my view are related.

I think a large number of voters went for Tories as a protest vote against JC, I know first hand that a lot of people i know personally that voted Tory did so, not because they believe the Tories to be the best option but because they dislike Coybyn and that's a dangerous thing to do. It's an attitude I saw a lot online too.

Labour has made gains in the polls since the election and I'd guess that's because a fair few people regret voting Tory probably because they voted, not because they believed (or knew anythng about) Tory policy, but as a protest against Corbyn.

The £1bn bribe is a digusting power grab by the Tories and it's a sign of things to come, Tories preach austerity but will waste ridiculous amounts of public money to hold on to power.

TBH though, I'm living for the Coalition of Chaos as there's a delicious irony in all the things that JC's detractors said about him being made a reality by Theresa May. The voters that voted Tory because they hate JC are getting exactly what they deserve.

Anti and protest votes are never a good idea and hopefully the people who voted Tory for those reasons might learn from the mistakes over the next few years.

[DemolitionRed]

England, Scotland and Wales will no doubt feel relieved that they are going to continue to live under austerity and a bit more austerity in order to ensure Northern Ireland doesn't have to. I'm sure we will see it as completely reasonable that our public health sector workers continue to take pay cuts, that our NHS continues to be under funded, especially to ensure that this doesn't happen in Northern Ireland so they can vote with the tories to keep them in power. Nobody in England, Scotland or Wales is going to feel bitter about that at all.