one mod dedicated to appeals

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

does anyone else think this would be a good idea? whenever you ask about an infraction on the forum (i was actually banned for doing this last week) all you get is "pm a mod/admin" when like how tf am i supposed to know who to pm? i've been told before "oh i didn't give that infraction so idk" wELL EXCUSE ME?

[Marsh.]

"oh i didn't give that infraction so idk"

I always get this response from every last one of them. It's like a game of Cluedo working out which one stabbed me in the back. :think:

[T*]

Messy, the appeals section should just return

[Vicky.]

Not bothered if this happens but I am not going to be doing this. **** that. The abuse you get for something thats nothing to do with you and the sheer amounts of moaning self pitying PMs there would be. Victim complexes so many have. Think that we are all out to get them and that. BIASTY!!!!!

Honestly you should see the state of the old appeals forum and the PMs sent to tibb staffs inbox :umm2:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

well sis while you're here can you explain why i just got infracted for "spamming advertisements" :nono:

[Withano]

I got an infraction reversed for responding to the "tibb staff" inbox message the other day - I dont know who gave the infraction, who read my message, or who reversed the infraction

[Niamh.]

I dont volunteer

[Vicky.]

well sis while you're here can you explain why i just got infracted for "spamming advertisements" :nono:

I do know that one.

It was a mistake and reversed as it originally permabanned you (!) with 999 points

Then was given again...was the reason on that one 'spammed advertisements' too?

Your infraction was actually for posting porn which you know isn't allowed :laugh:

Hope that helps.

[Amy Jade]

This is a good question actually.

Surely if you pm the mod who gave you an infraction they won't reverse it or bother looking into it or do they have to open up a mod only discussion for other mods to chat about it?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

also like

it's quite ridiculous when you get infracted hours (sometimes even days) after the post was dealt with (the thread getting closed or w/e)

like it's literally though y'all sift through posts looking for someone to infract :x

[Niamh.]

This is a good question actually.

Surely if you pm the mod who gave you an infraction they won't reverse it or bother looking into it or do they have to open up a mod only discussion for other mods to chat about it?
I've reversed infractions I gave due to misunderstandings lots of times

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

idk i personally just feel very attacked

like i got infracted last week for saying "please get off the internet" when clearly that was just dry humour :conf2:

like if every single mod on there agrees that saying that to someone deserves punishment then jesus :eyes:

[Shaun]

Hire me and I'll gladly step in.

https://uploadir.com/u/xg9bd0dj

"Oh yes hello That Girl - what's that? - you've been warned for breaking the swear filter? Please hold whilst I transfer you to MTVN. Your call is very important to us."

https://media.giphy.com/media/25berOVyC7TsQ/giphy.gif

[out of earshot] "OI. WHY'S HE BEEN WARNED?"

[MTVN]

also like

it's quite ridiculous when you get infracted hours (sometimes even days) after the post was dealt with (the thread getting closed or w/e)

like it's literally though y'all sift through posts looking for someone to infract :x

I think that hardly ever happens :suspect: the only time I think that it might is if something needs to be discussed amongst all the Mods first so the one thats online might just close the thread for now and then discuss what course of action to take when other Mods come online

[Ross.]

Hire me and I'll gladly step in.

https://uploadir.com/u/xg9bd0dj

"Oh yes hello That Girl - what's that? - you've been warned for breaking the swear filter? Please hold whilst I transfer you to MTVN. Your call is very important to us."

https://media.giphy.com/media/25berOVyC7TsQ/giphy.gif

[out of earshot] "OI. WHY'S HE BEEN WARNED?"

:joker::joker::joker:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Hire me and I'll gladly step in.

https://uploadir.com/u/xg9bd0dj

"Oh yes hello That Girl - what's that? - you've been warned for breaking the swear filter? Please hold whilst I transfer you to MTVN. Your call is very important to us."

https://media.giphy.com/media/25berOVyC7TsQ/giphy.gif

[out of earshot] "OI. WHY'S HE BEEN WARNED?"

:lovedup:

[Vicky.]

This is a good question actually.

Surely if you pm the mod who gave you an infraction they won't reverse it or bother looking into it or do they have to open up a mod only discussion for other mods to chat about it?

This is what happens. Each infraction generates its own thread in the admin section. Even without someone PMing about them sometimes another mod will question it (or just say its too harsh/lenient) and a discussion occurs in the thread. When people PM me about infractions I usually tell them I will just post a comment in the infraction thread about it...

We don't tend to reverse each others infractions without a discussion. I don't remember a time that has ever happened actually.

[Jordan.]

We all nominate Josy for this

[Josy]

None of us will doing this, we get enough ****e from members when 9/10 they are the ones that broke the rule.

And if someone disputes an infraction we always check in the admin forum and have a discussion if we find the infraction to be unclear or unfair and then it generally gets reversed, unless of course the infraction reason is obvious and the member that got it is just chancing it.

[Josy]

And also, why do members talk complete crap on the forum about infraction reasons etc, Scott you clearly went into the chat thread and posted that the person responsible for your infraction 'needs to be kicked on the titty' so lets not talk ****e about it.

[Denver]

can someone explain why i was banned from an infraction but the infraction was reversed but the ban not?

[Smithy]

I miss the old way where you could see which mod gave you the infractions and how many points it was worth, would stop all the hiding behind "I didn't give it"

Y'all get **** anyway, at least then you'd only get **** for the infractions you gave out

[Josy]

I miss the old way where you could see which mod gave you the infractions and how many points it was worth, would stop all the hiding behind "I didn't give it"

Y'all get **** anyway, at least then you'd only get **** for the infractions you gave out
Well the point is we shouldn't be getting **** at all, most on here are adults and should act like it when they break a rule instead of trying to project the blame onto the mod that deals with the rule break :shrug:

[Smithy]

Should do, but don't, at the end of the day you're policing adults on the internet, if they break the rules they're obv gonna get ****ty about being punished, makes it easier on yourselves imo if you can see whose give the infractions, stops the whole "this mod hates me and always infarcts me mentality too"

[Amy Jade]

This is what happens. Each infraction generates its own thread in the admin section. Even without someone PMing about them sometimes another mod will question it (or just say its too harsh/lenient) and a discussion occurs in the thread. When people PM me about infractions I usually tell them I will just post a comment in the infraction thread about it...

We don't tend to reverse each others infractions without a discussion. I don't remember a time that has ever happened actually.

Ahhh i never really understood how it worked, that's interesting. Thank you

[Josy]

Should do, but don't, at the end of the day you're policing adults on the internet, if they break the rules they're obv gonna get ****ty about being punished, makes it easier on yourselves imo if you can see whose give the infractions, stops the whole "this mod hates me and always infarcts me mentality too"
The way it is now stops people from having vendettas against certain mods

[Denver]

Mods dont even get back to you when you send it on the TIBB pm thing

[T*]

Hire me and I'll gladly step in.

https://uploadir.com/u/xg9bd0dj

"Oh yes hello That Girl - what's that? - you've been warned for breaking the swear filter? Please hold whilst I transfer you to MTVN. Your call is very important to us."

https://media.giphy.com/media/25berOVyC7TsQ/giphy.gif

[out of earshot] "OI. WHY'S HE BEEN WARNED?"
:joker:

[Niamh.]

Mods dont even get back to you when you send it on the TIBB pm thing

I think only James, Josy and maybe Vicky get those Adam, you'd be better off messaging one of us directly

[Tom4784]

well sis while you're here can you explain why i just got infracted for "spamming advertisements" :nono:

That was me, I pushed the wrong button and accidentally permabanned you for a minute or two.

[Niamh.]

That was me, I pushed the wrong button and accidentally permabanned you for a minute or two.

:smug:

[Tom4784]

Appeals were a nightmare and they were rarely used for the right reasons. People would just kick up a stink about every infraction although it was obvious they deserved it.

The only way I'd ever think about supporting it's return is if it's against the rules to appeal obviously deserved infractions. It should be for correcting mistakes and errors in infractions not for trying your luck to get out of a deserved infraction.

[Josy]

Mods dont even get back to you when you send it on the TIBB pm thing
That's probably because it's only myself James and Vicky that receive those messages and we do reply to them so...

[Josy]

And stop using this thread as an excuse to post about your infractions

[Denver]

That's probably because it's only myself James and Vicky that receive those messages and we do reply to them so...

I have legit never had a reply

[Josy]

I have legit never had a reply
I can't ever recall seeing a message from you but I'll check later

[MTVN]

I don't think it's ever been the case that members knew which Mod gave them the infraction? Not while I've been a Mod anyway

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

And also, why do members talk complete crap on the forum about infraction reasons etc, Scott you clearly went into the chat thread and posted that the person responsible for your infraction 'needs to be kicked on the titty' so lets not talk ****e about it.

why was i infracted for that though :nono: it's y'alls personal problem that you don't get my snazzy humour, not mine :nono:

[Niamh.]

I don't think it's ever been the case that members knew which Mod gave them the infraction? Not while I've been a Mod anyway

yeah I dont think so either

[thesheriff443]

Clearly there is a good system in place, that cant be abused by any one mod and I don't believe it is being abused.

If you cant stay within the forum rules its not the mods fault.
This site is well policed.

[Niamh.]

Clearly there is a good system in place, that cant be abused by any one mod and I don't believe it is being abused.

If you cant stay within the forum rules its not the mods fault.
This site is well policed.

Thank you Sheriff, atleast someone appreciates us :laugh:

[Josy]

Clearly there is a good system in place, that cant be abused by any one mod and I don't believe it is being abused.

If you cant stay within the forum rules its not the mods fault.
This site is well policed.
Thanks

It's not often we get comments like this

[Crimson Dynamo]

What I do is just tiptoe through the forum posting my witty observations and keep well within the rule book. Honestly if forum members would just play by the rules then you would not need to appeal anything.

Poor mods and admin is what I say :)

[Niamh.]

What I do is just tiptoe through the forum posting my witty observations and keep well within the rule book. Honestly if forum members would just play by the rules then you would not need to appeal anything.

Poor mods and admin is what I say :)

Wonderful thanks for your support LT

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wonderful thanks for your support LT

I have nothing but respect for the hard job mods and admin do, I would hate to have to deal with people like me and say Marsh and Cherie on a regular basis

:umm2:

[Niamh.]

I have nothing but respect for the hard job mods and admin do, I would hate to have to deal with people like me and say Marsh and Cherie on a regular basis

:umm2:

:laugh:

[Vicky.]

Appeals were a nightmare and they were rarely used for the right reasons. People would just kick up a stink about every infraction although it was obvious they deserved it.

The only way I'd ever think about supporting it's return is if it's against the rules to appeal obviously deserved infractions. It should be for correcting mistakes and errors in infractions not for trying your luck to get out of a deserved infraction.Problem here is, some members seem to genuinely not be able to tell that their infraction was deserved. Even if its blatantly obvious, which 90% of the time it is.

That's probably because it's only myself James and Vicky that receive those messages and we do reply to them so...

I haven't logged into the email address that tibb staff messages get sent to for like a year. Just tried it there and I have 3000 unread messages D:

[Vicky.]

I don't think it's ever been the case that members knew which Mod gave them the infraction? Not while I've been a Mod anyway

yeah I dont think so either

It used to happen, going back maybe 5/6 years or something now though :laugh:

All that happened was that mods would be accused of targeting certain members as they were the only mods who were online at certain hours. I got so much **** as I tended to be on through the night when others weren't and it was nearly always the same few that kicked off on a night.

Also nearly every infraction given would result in an abusive PM sent in reply. Which tended to end in bans, which got peoples backs up even more :laugh:

[Niamh.]

It used to happen, going back maybe 5/6 years or something now though :laugh:

All that happened was that mods would be accused of targeting certain members as they were the only mods who were online at certain hours. I got so much **** as I tended to be on through the night when others weren't and it was nearly always the same few that kicked off on a night.

Also nearly every infraction given would result in an abusive PM sent in reply. Which tended to end in bans, which got peoples backs up even more :laugh:

More I'd say Vicky because me and Matt have been mods 7 years now :worry:

[Josy]

More I'd say Vicky because me and Matt have been mods 7 years now :worry:
Matt was later than the rest of us :think:

It was myself, you, dezzy nate and eoin then about a year later Matt and kerry iirc

[Niamh.]

Matt was later than the rest of us :think:

It was myself, you, dezzy nate and eoin then about a year later Matt and kerry iirc

Oh so he was, I still never remember the Infractions coming from us rather than TiBB Staff, do you?

[Josy]

Oh so he was, I still never remember the Infractions coming from us rather than TiBB Staff, do you?
No I don't remember that it mustve been before us [emoji23]

[Vicky.]

Was pretty much when the forum changed over software IIRC. Infractions came from the member of staff that sent them for maybe a year before it was changed

[Niamh.]

Was pretty much when the forum changed over software IIRC. Infractions came from the member of staff that sent them for maybe a year before it was changed

Well we all became mods in 2010 iirc so it must have been 2009 then or early 2010 before we became mods

[Tom4784]

It used to be horrific, I can remember receiving tons of hate (How times have changed....) from it because people don't understand that my personality quirks don't reflect how I mod. Posting and modding are two different things in my eyes and that's always been the case.

I'd be as against one mod handling appeals as much as I would a return for the appeals system. It's too much work for one person and there would inevitably be accusations of bias.

Simply PM'ing a mod if you TRULY think an infraction is wrong/unjustified will always get the infraction overturned if that's the case.

[Josy]

I agree with Dezzy

The appeals forum failed miserable, was constantly misused and then we had members like Scott posting in it for a chat whilst banned.

[Jason.]

I agree with Dezzy

The appeals forum failed miserable, was constantly misused and then we had members like Scott posting in it for a chat whilst banned.

:joker:

[Morgan.]

I think the mods do enough of a good job already, no need for these additions. Maybe it because I haven't been around as long to know why they're wanted, but ATM I don't this kind these are necessary.

[Black Dagger]

I think you all just need to do your jobs better :)

[Niamh.]

I think you all just need to do your jobs better :)

I think we all need to get a raise tbh

[Black Dagger]

Not until improvements are made :)

[Niamh.]

Not until improvements are made :)

a company car also

[Locke.]

Got to say the modding has been at an all time high this year the BB forum has been a nice and peaceful place to post in.

[Black Dagger]

For who.

[Locke.]

Everyone except for the over dramatic

[Niamh.]

Got to say the modding has been at an all time high this year the BB forum has been a nice and peaceful place to post in.

:hee:

[thesheriff443]

a company car also

It would probably be a van like the one in dumber and dumber shaped like a dog, or a giant hot dog for advertising.

[Niamh.]

It would probably be a van like the one in dumber and dumber shaped like a dog, or a giant hot dog for advertising.

:worry:

I was think an Aston Martin

[Black Dagger]

Everyone except for the over dramatic

Sorry we aren't all down for one note trolls getting away with murder :(

[Locke.]

Stop being over dramatic

[Black Dagger]

Gurl you have lived with me. You know I am dramatic.

[Marsh.]

and then we had members like Scott posting in it for a chat whilst banned.

CACKLING

[Marsh.]

Got to say the modding has been at an all time high this year the BB forum has been a nice and peaceful place to post in.

I wouldn't say pleasant at all.

But Niamh's radiant beauty lights up any thread she enters. :love:

Josy on the other hand is like a Dementor. :worry:

[LemonJam]

And also, why do members talk complete crap on the forum about infraction reasons etc, Scott you clearly went into the chat thread and posted that the person responsible for your infraction 'needs to be kicked on the titty' so lets not talk ****e about it.

ffs I just spat out my coffee on the bus @ this :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wouldn't say pleasant at all.

But Niamh's radiant beauty lights up any thread she enters. :love:

Josy on the other hand is like a Dementor. :worry:

Vicky is my fave. She is like a lighthouse in a force 12. Bright, erect, sopping wet and full of wind

:flutter:

[Vicky.]

Charming

[Marsh.]

I do know that one.

It was a mistake and reversed as it originally permabanned you (!) with 999 points

Then was given again...was the reason on that one 'spammed advertisements' too?

Your infraction was actually for posting porn which you know isn't allowed :laugh:

Hope that helps.

Not you posting about infractions in full view of the forum.





*bangs on Josy's office door*

[Marsh.]

Vicky is my fave. She is like a lighthouse in a force 12. Bright, erect, sopping wet and full of wind

:flutter:

Charming

What does that even mean? :omgno:

[Vicky.]

Meh. The threads basically a big whinge about how he was hard done by when he was almost permabanned minutes earlier so he deserved an explanation :hehe:

[Alf]

I'm a bleeding nightmare when I get banned, aren't I mods?

But I've promised Josy today, that I'm gonna change my ways.

And I'm a man of my word.

Josy did something good for me today, and I don't want to let her down

Today is the first day of a new Alf.

[caprimint]

Sounds like a nice job for Matthew

[Will.]

I don't mind volunteering.

Happy to help the community.

[Marsh.]

The way it is now stops people from having vendettas against certain mods

My vendetta against Dezzy is still in full force though.

Rob and I even have a dart board?

[Marsh.]

Problem here is, some members seem to genuinely not be able to tell that their infraction was deserved. Even if its blatantly obvious, which 90% of the time it is.



I haven't logged into the email address that tibb staff messages get sent to for like a year. Just tried it there and I have 3000 unread messages D:

Not the story of my 2014 meltdown being in your abandoned inbox?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

av never done owt wrong in me life

[Marsh.]

av never done owt wrong in me life

The local policeman right now...

https://media.tenor.com/images/65866ba370141523c412fb6c0dd2de6d/tenor.gif

[Rob!]

Two of the mods read my books so I would like to say what a stunning job they do in particular :hee:

[Marsh.]

Two of the mods read my books so I would like to say what a stunning job they do in particular :hee:
Rob getting away with murder by distracting Niamh with reading materials?

[Vicky.]

Two of the mods read my books so I would like to say what a stunning job they do in particular :hee:

What books? I know another member just got published and is selling on amazon but I didn't know you were a writer too

[Crimson Dynamo]

What books? I know another member just got published and is selling on amazon but I didn't know you were a writer too

You would be hard pushed to know, Rob keeps all that on the down-low...


:hehe:

[Kizzy]

If you're busy mods I'll do the appeals.... :)

[Vicky.]

If you're busy mods I'll do the appeals.... :)

Tbf you probably had more posts in the appeal section that any of us did :p

[Crimson Dynamo]

If you're busy mods I'll do the appeals.... :)

Dear Kizzy

Can you remove my big profile warning thing as i am a changed man and am nice and stuff. I will vote labour at the next election too.

Yours sincerely

LT

:fc:

[Marsh.]

What books? I know another member just got published and is selling on amazon but I didn't know you were a writer too
I think that's Rob you're thinking of?

[Vicky.]

I think that's Rob you're thinking of?

Nope. Stu

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

omg what does stu have on amazon? link a sis!

[Vicky.]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vegetable-Television-Stuart-James-Kent/dp/1545324573/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1498130227&sr=1-2&keywords=vegetable+tv

Its fairly recent I think

[Shaun]

Yeah I was gonna post about ha on here but didn't know if he wanted that kind of promo :laugh: / not my place, etc.

[Vicky.]

Hmm. That could be a good point. I would have thought all promo was good promo though :S

[T*]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vegetable-Television-Stuart-James-Kent/dp/1545324573/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1498130227&sr=1-2&keywords=vegetable+tv

Its fairly recent I think

Is it about Eurovision?

[Shaun]

Hmm. That could be a good point. I would have thought all promo was good promo though :S

Yeah I know :laugh: I'm sure he nipped back on here not too long ago as well.

[Vicky.]

Is it about Eurovision?

Meet Danny and his friends: Twentysomething lovers, psychedelic casualties and would be rock stars in present day Cork, whose often fraught but always colourful inner universes are about to collide with one another in a year that will change their lives forever. A year where they will be asked to participate in the construction of meaning in their own lives.

Doesnt sound like it

I haven't bought it yet as I am a bit skint but will do once money is sorted out properly. just because I am nosey :D

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

welp NOT £13

[caprimint]

Could buy 26 crunchies with that money