British ISIS recruiter Sally Jones cries that she wants to return home to the UK

[Wizard.]

Sally Jones from Kent joined ISIS and now lives in Syria. She had a son with a terrorist and her husband was killed by drone strikes in 2015. Her son is an ISIS executioner at the age of 12 and she is a major ISIS recruiter who is on the US drone kill list.

Now she claims she wants to return back to life in the UK, they could make a documentary about her called "US Drone Kill List to UK Council House List"

But seriously let her back and just interrogate ha then throw ha in prison.

[smudgie]

Three words.
Keep her out.:fist:

[Denver]

let her back the shoot her in the head

[storybrooke]

I find her son being an executioner at 12 years old so horrible

[Brother Leon]

Leave her to eventually be killed and spat on by the Syrian Army.

[Greg!]

Lmao no bitch!

[TaylorCallum]

Leave her there.

[Brillopad]

Sally Jones from Kent joined ISIS and now lives in Syria. She had a son with a terrorist and her husband was killed by drone strikes in 2015. Her son is an ISIS executioner at the age of 12 and she is a major ISIS recruiter who is on the US drone kill list.

Now she claims she wants to return back to life in the UK, they could make a documentary about her called "US Drone Kill List to UK Council House List"

But seriously let her back and just interrogate ha then throw ha in prison.

She can rot. We don't want her back here.

[Shaun]

I think this is one thing we can all agree on. You get what you give, Sally x

[armand.kay]

Let her back, get what we can out of her then lock her up.

[Firewire]

CBB producers shook

[Cal.]

Aw POOR THAT!

[DemolitionRed]

I'd say get her back so we can get her child off her and put him through the therapy he needs. Then we should lock her up for life.

[andybigbro]

She can **** off

[Kazanne]

Don't need the scum here,let her rot over there

[Brillopad]

I'd say get her back so we can get her child off her and put him through the therapy he needs. Then we should lock her up for life.

And how much would locking her up for life cost the tax-payer. If she ever gets back she should be forcibly deported back to Syria.

[DemolitionRed]

And how much would locking her up for life cost the tax-payer. If she ever gets back she should be forcibly deported back to Syria.

And what of the child?

[Tom4784]

I've got zero sympathy for her but I do have a lot for her son, he has been ruined and radicalised from birth and now he'll likely end up in an early grave after being made to kill god knows how many people when he would have likely lived a normal life if the circumstances of his birth were different.

And how much would locking her up for life cost the tax-payer. If she ever gets back she should be forcibly deported back to Syria.

Not that much, actually. It doesn't cost much to keep someone alive in prison.

[Toy Soldier]

If she ever gets back she should be forcibly deported back to Syria.

Yes we could do it every time she tries to come back! It's a flawless plan.

A visual representation of this theory in practice;

https://68.media.tumblr.com/26a960808b3605f7eabca7ec60f03e7c/tumblr_nubbhqC9yT1rpco88o2_r1_500.gif

[Tom4784]

Yes we could do it every time she tries to come back! It's a flawless plan.

A visual representation of this theory in practice;

https://68.media.tumblr.com/26a960808b3605f7eabca7ec60f03e7c/tumblr_nubbhqC9yT1rpco88o2_r1_500.gif

Maybe they'd settle the dispute by giving her a rubber dinghy and forcing her to live in neutral waters?

[Brillopad]

And what of the child?

He should of course be taken away from her. Then she should be stripped of her passport and sent back to Syria.

[Beso]

And what of the child?

He is 12
.he can be tried as an adult..get that murdering little bastard back and lock him up as well.

[DemolitionRed]

He is 12
.he can be tried as an adult..get that murdering little bastard back and lock him up as well.

No he can't!

[Niamh.]

He is 12
.he can be tried as an adult..get that murdering little bastard back and lock him up as well.

You wouldn't have any sympathy for a 12 year old who was literally raised to believe that what he was doing was right by adults who should know better? That's child abuse, he had no choice.

[DouglasS]

Leave her over there and take her child off her. Let her feel just a little bit of what those parents have who have lost their kids by being killed by ISIS.

[Vicky.]

These people really have no shame.

I don't think its fair to call a 12 year old child a murdering bastard tbh. He has clearly been hugely abused to end up that way. He might possibly have a chance of rehabilitation, depending quite how badly they ****ed his head up. Needs supervision for life though I would say as he would be a ticking timebomb.

If it wasn't for the child, I would say leave her there to be killed...and hope her death is as slow and painful as possible tbh, though that may just be my twisted thinking. But this child needs some consideration here.

[Beso]

You wouldn't have any sympathy for a 12 year old who was literally raised to believe that what he was doing was right by adults who should know better? That's child abuse, he had no choice.

It could be said the vast majority of isis fighters were raised to think the same...do we pardon all of them?

[Beso]

No he can't!

Ok..he can be tried as an adult in a youth court...

[Niamh.]

It could be said the vast majority of isis fighters were raised to think the same...do we pardon all of them?

No but this one is still only 12, a child, he could be rehabilitated before it's too late

[Beso]

No but this one is still only 12, a child, he could be rehabilitated before it's too late

I have my veiws on this as do you...im leaving it here.:notimpressed:

[Toy Soldier]

To be fair, I have my doubts that a child who has been raised almost to their teens in an environment of engaging in such violence will ever be totally psychologically "normal". But then again, there are accounts of African child-soldiers who are forced to do horrific things (and often stuffed full of narcotics) going on to live peaceful adult lives after being rescued from the clutches of warlords. So it's possible. Secure psychiatric care would probably be more appropriate than prison. It really would have to be very long term though.

[Niamh.]

To be fair, I have my doubts that a child who has been raised almost to their teens in an environment of engaging in such violence will ever be totally psychologically "normal". But then again, there are accounts of African child-soldiers who are forced to do horrific things (and often stuffed full of narcotics) going on to live peaceful adult lives after being rescued from the clutches of warlords. So it's possible. Secure psychiatric care would probably be more appropriate than prison. It really would have to be very long term though.

It would be really difficult, i don't disagree but my own son is 13 and he's still a baby in my eyes

[Toy Soldier]

It would be really difficult, i don't disagree but my own son is 13 and he's still a baby in my eyes

It is horrendous really, they are definitely victims in their own way. But in so many ways, younger is even worse. I mentioned child soldiers but even then, usually they live relatively normal childhoods up until age 9 or 10 before being taken from their families and twisted into killers. They have the memory of a peaceful life before all of it, a normality that with time they can rediscover once all of the horrors have been deprogrammed. I don't know what's left of someone like this 12 year old boy who has never known anything but that sort of existence, to whom violence and death *is* normality, if you strip all of that away.

[Niamh.]

It is horrendous really, they are definitely victims in their own way. But in so many ways, younger is even worse. I mentioned child soldiers but even then, usually they live relatively normal childhoods up until age 9 or 10 before being taken from their families and twisted into killers. They have the memory of a peaceful life before all of it, a normality that with time they can rediscover once all of the horrors have been deprogrammed. I don't know what's left of someone like this 12 year old boy who has never known anything but that sort of existence, to whom violence and death *is* normality, if you strip all of that away.

I know, it's so sad really. That mother has a lot to answer for, disgusting piece of s**t

[Kizzy]

I say let her back, there must be secure isolated facilities, imagine the intelligence she has? she is information gold.
I know kids are resilient but can he be saved? I don't know :(

[Beso]

It would be really difficult, i don't disagree but my own son is 13 and he's still a baby in my eyes

Sorry to put that thought in your head niamh, but there is no comparrison to childhood as the womans son is as far from childhood as you can get..away and give him a hug.:flowers:

[Beso]

I hesitate to do this but compare it to the killers of jamie bulger.. I mean i know there isnt the same thing regarding radicalisation in the upbringing, but surely the upbringing is the root cause in both cases?

So IF it is, why was all the vitriol and hatred spewed at them accepted when this kid, is pittied?
It is all tragic, and maybe i am heartless but It confuses me.

[Brillopad]

I say let her back, there must be secure isolated facilities, imagine the intelligence she has? she is information gold.
I know kids are resilient but can he be saved? I don't know :(

We probably couldn't believe a word she said. She wouldn't be worth the taxpayers' money.

[Brillopad]

I hesitate to do this but compare it to the killers of jamie bulger.. I mean i know there isnt the same thing regarding radicalisation in the upbringing, but surely the upbringing is the root cause in both cases?

So IF it is, why was all the vitriol and hatred spewed at them accepted when this kid, is pittied?
It is all tragic, and maybe i am heartless but It confuses me.

The thought had occurred to me too - they were vilified when about 2 years' younger than this boy. Yes different circumstances but all children from awful backgrounds all the same.

[Northern Monkey]

Yeah agree with TS.You could never put that kid in school with white British(or infidel) kids.It'd be a blood bath.He'd need to go through a long term deprogramming programme?:laugh:

The mother however.Off with her head and feed her to the Queens corgi's

[smudgie]

I think it's time to say anybody going to fight for ISIS will automatically lose their right to return.
Is she crying to come home because she realises she is on the drone hit list?
She is not worth the £40k plus a year to keep her in jail.

[Beso]

The thought had occurred to me too - they were vilified when about 2 years' younger than this boy. Yes different circumstances but all children from awful backgrounds all the same.

Yeah i thought, wait a minute these kids were ten and had death threats aimed at them..dont get me wrong, i say lock them up for life.. give them a playstation but no key, but this kid will probably have beheaded. Also probably practiced beheading on some random soul.

It sounds unreal, but its not. People need to get real and realise this extremism needs shut down, shut down completely..this kid will have been bred for this..pure and simple...people need to get this.

[Mystic Mock]

Three words.
Keep her out.:fist:

This.

She wanted to join that barbaric group, now she can live with that choice.

[Beso]

This.

She wanted to join that barbaric group, now she can live with that choice.

That outlook would also sacrifice the child.

[Mystic Mock]

I hesitate to do this but compare it to the killers of jamie bulger.. I mean i know there isnt the same thing regarding radicalisation in the upbringing, but surely the upbringing is the root cause in both cases?

So IF it is, why was all the vitriol and hatred spewed at them accepted when this kid, is pittied?
It is all tragic, and maybe i am heartless but It confuses me.

Those children planned out their attack on James Bulger, where as this child is being guided by adults to kill people. That's the difference in my eyes.

[Mystic Mock]

That outlook would also sacrifice the child.

The child didn't choose to join ISIS, that's the difference here.

[Beso]

Those children planned out their attack on James Bulger, where as this child is being guided by adults to kill people. That's the difference in my eyes.

Yes i know, both had a crap upbringing though. Both violent.

[Beso]

The child didn't choose to join ISIS, that's the difference here.

Yeah but refusing the mother into britain would leave the child abandoned to a life of violence and probable death.

[Toy Soldier]

I hesitate to do this but compare it to the killers of jamie bulger.. I mean i know there isnt the same thing regarding radicalisation in the upbringing, but surely the upbringing is the root cause in both cases?

So IF it is, why was all the vitriol and hatred spewed at them accepted when this kid, is pittied?
It is all tragic, and maybe i am heartless but It confuses me.

The entire Bulger case is tragic, though, from start to finish. What they did was unthinkable, and all that's left now is two very broken adults, but yeah... personally I don't think it takes away from any sympathy for the Bulger family and what they've endured to say that it IS sad that those two boys lives clearly went very, very wrong at a very early stage. The people responsible for that should shoulder a huge part of the blame for Jamie Bulger's death, too.

It's probably "not PC" to say that though, I guess. We're "supposed to" just hate them. But that tends to be because people can't draw the line between trying to understand a situation and making excuses for it / pardoning it. Whatever happened to them to make them dangerous is tragic; but it doesn't take away from the fact that they became dangerous.

The same goes for this kid in this thread. His life story is tragic, really unthinkable, but that doesn't mean he isn't now extremely dangerous.

[Toy Soldier]

Oh as for the woman herself and her new upset... My guess from the sounds of things would be that her jihadist husband probably treated her very well and she had whatever she wanted when he was alive, and perhaps even a degree of power. But now that he's dead it's most likely not quite so "fun" any more.

[Oliver_W]

Keep her out, and pubically so, make a big deal of keeping her out. That way, idiots who want to go join ISIS will see what happens to their ilk.

[Brillopad]

Keep her out, and pubically so, make a big deal of keeping her out. That way, idiots who want to go join ISIS will see what happens to their ilk.

She has made such a public show of herself and exposed what a worthless woman and mother she is. She should no longer be considered British. She made her choice - now she pays. Stupid woman.

[letmein]

No but this one is still only 12, a child, he could be rehabilitated before it's too late

He's executing people. He's laughing and having a great time doing it. The video and photos are out. They need to be barred and kept out.

[Brillopad]

He's executing people. He's laughing and having a great time doing it. The video and photos are out. They need to be barred and kept out.

That's worrying. Even at 12 he could be beyond rehabilitation and pose a danger to others around him.

[JTM45]

She'll never be allowed back into this country and rightly so.
Anyone with any human decency would feel sorry for her child though. It's not like he would ever have had any choice or say on what he was brought up to be. It would be like condemning a child who was brought up in the sex trade, never having known anything else and being told what they were doing was 'normal'.

Where did this supposed 'news' come from anyway ? OK Magazine's latest 'At Home with Sally Jones' centre spread ?