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the truth
11-07-2017, 08:42 PM
As are the cnn lefties...over 50% of cnns entire news coverage the last 3 months has been over the whole trump/russia links...they cannot accept he defeated killary clinton.

Whether or not the russians or anyone else helped trump is utterly irrelevant, its a democracy anyone has the right to help in any way they can

killarys campaign was absolute filth like her whole political career
the fact the bbc run with this every night is pathetic
so much for their impartiality, thats the biggest lie of all

GiRTh
11-07-2017, 08:54 PM
As are the cnn lefties...over 50% of cnns entire news coverage the last 3 months has been over the whole trump/russia links...they cannot accept he defeated killary clinton.

Whether or not the russians or anyone else helped trump is utterly irrelevant, its a democracy anyone has the right to help in any way they can

killarys campaign was absolute filth like her whole political career
the fact the bbc run with this every night is pathetic
so much for their impartiality, thats the biggest lie of all

Not true. A campaign cannot seek help from a foreign adversary to win an election and now theres an e-mail to Don Jr that states clearly the Russian wanted to harm HRC's campaign. When Don Jr was contacted by the Russian lawyer, and found out why they wanted to meet, he should have immediately informed the FBI.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/11/donald-trump-jr-emails-full-text-russia-rob-goldstone

I've never thought there was much to this Russia investigation and I have found some of the recent coverage to be quite savage on Trump even though I'm definitely not a Trump fan. After his recent attacks on media personalities, who dare to criticize him, the criticism has definitely intensified. He deserves this. He needs to stay off twitter, stick to his job and stop attacking the media cuz it seems they're now definitely gunning for him now.

GiRTh
14-07-2017, 04:02 PM
Former Soviet Counterintelligence Officer at Meeting With Donald Trump Jr. and Russian Lawyer (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russian-lawyer-brought-ex-soviet-counter-intelligence-officer-trump-team-n782851)

The plot thickens. Donny Jr still maintains he did not have a clue who he was meeting when he met with the a Russian lawyer - who is linked to the Russian Government - and now we hear there was also a former counterintelligence officer in the room.

Someones leaking and many think its Jared Kushners lawyers. Trump deciding to surround himself with so many family members is yet another one of his many poor decisions.

GiRTh
14-07-2017, 04:22 PM
I think we should have a 'All things Trump thread' and maybe this could be it.

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Lets talk about Trumps friend Jim, who he mentioned a few times on the campaign trail. Jims a substantial guy according to the 45th president. We dont think this guy exists. The President of USA may have an imaginary friends and if you are not ******ing terrified by that then you should be.

Trump in Paris: The curious case of his friend Jim (https://apnews.com/e18f254c4ac84e6bab4ceed56401cc65)

bots
14-07-2017, 05:06 PM
The bigger issue around this is fake news, as that does influence peoples voting choices, and Trump is using that bigly while trashing the genuine variety.

The Russian involvement encouraged fake news and Trump and his team were complicit in that. Is that involvement enough to end his presidency? Time will tell, but the stars are aligning, his time is running out and I would be surprised if he is still president next year.

GiRTh
14-07-2017, 07:04 PM
The bigger issue around this is fake news, as that does influence peoples voting choices, and Trump is using that bigly while trashing the genuine variety.

The Russian involvement encouraged fake news and Trump and his team were complicit in that. Is that involvement enough to end his presidency? Time will tell, but the stars are aligning, his time is running out and I would be surprised if he is still president next year.
I agree in part but remember it was Trump who purposely printed a fake Time magazine cover and placed it in many of his golf courses. Got to hand it to him, to do that and then bang on about fake news, he's got a set on him for sure.

There seems to be something in this. I noted in another thread that neither Trump or any of his surrogates are calling these stories 'fake news' so I think they have finally realised the seriousness of some of the allegations.

Underscore
14-07-2017, 07:44 PM
Naaaa there is definitely something shady with Trump and Russia.

Yeah, let's all forget about it and let him off the hook, totally democratic :shrug:

the truth
14-07-2017, 07:45 PM
its a total non story from day 1...wasting billions of tax payers money and tv headlines
so someone offer dirt on killary? wow....in the filthiest election ever thats news? what happened to her fake line of accusers of trump all of whom disappeared

GiRTh
14-07-2017, 08:08 PM
its a total non story from day 1...wasting billions of tax payers money and tv headlines
so someone offer dirt on killary? wow....in the filthiest election ever thats news? what happened to her fake line of accusers of trump all of whom disappearedNot only is it news but its possibly illegal. They're not sure cuz its never happened before.

GiRTh
14-07-2017, 08:12 PM
Naaaa there is definitely something shady with Trump and Russia.

Yeah, let's all forget about it and let him off the hook, totally democratic :shrug:Yep Agree. The Miss Universe pageant in 2013 was held in Moscow. Something happened at that pageant. So many of Trumps ties to Russian were made at that pageant.

the truth
15-07-2017, 12:42 PM
Not only is it news but its possibly illegal. They're not sure cuz its never happened before.

lol are you on the wind up? it happens every day ...politicians digging up mud and chucking it at each other

GiRTh
15-07-2017, 05:56 PM
lol are you on the wind up? it happens every day ...politicians digging up mud and chucking it at each otherThis is not just some silly dirt that they dug up. Have you read the details of the report? Don Jr got an e-mail from someone who claimed to have dirt that came from the Russian government and it states in the e-mail that its 'part' of their - The Russian Governments - attempt to help him. When has that ever happened before? How would you feel if you learned that Jeremy Corbyn had dirt on Theresa May and it was provided by the Russian Government. I suspect your reaction would be something along the line of - Why the hell is a foreign government trying to influence our election? This defense that its something that happens all the time is bollox. The only other time anything like this happened was in 2000 when Al Gore received a stolen debate prep book from the Bush campaign. His response was to inform the FBI. Seems like only Trump, you and certain - not all - Fox news analysts dont see anything wrong here.

the truth
15-07-2017, 05:59 PM
lol dirt flies from everywhere this is am absolute joke. cnn should be ashamed as should killary and her bitter band of hypocrites

GiRTh
15-07-2017, 06:02 PM
lol dirt flies from everywhere this is am absolute joke. cnn should be ashamed as should killary and her bitter band of hypocritesIts not coming from CNN. You seem to have made a bunch of assumptions about this. Please go and read the article and then come and tell the forum that its an everyday occurrence.

Latest is that there were more people in the meeting than Don JR claims. Still more lies. The latest count is up to 8 people now in this 'nothing' meeting

They've had 3 days to come up with a definitive story and they're still lying, so yeah definitely nothing in this :shrug:

JTM45
15-07-2017, 10:07 PM
Trump is absolutely SCREWED and it's getting worse by the minute!

This Don Jnr. stuff is just absolute proof that none of the Russia stuff was ever 'fake news'. 'Fake News' , as blamed every five minutes by Trump for his crapness, was nothing more than an attempt (that many Trumpettes swallowed hook, line and sinker) to undermine the free press and make the news to come seem somehow illegitimate. It didn't work for anyone but the delusional.

It has now been confirmed by Natalia Veselnitskaya (the Russian attorney) in an interview with the Wall Street Journal that she had indeed been working with the Kremlin’s official top prosecutor to try to sabotage Hillary Clinton and that was what the meeting with Don Jnr. (and Kushner, Manafort, Akhmetshin et al) was all about.

When all is said and done and Mueller has finished his investigation this will very probably be the biggest political scandal in history.
On the subject of the Mueller investigation..........just last week Mueller hired several extremely high level prosecutors to work on the investigation. That's right, not investigators but PROSECUTORS (the clue's in the job title). This thing has gone from 'smoking guns' to 'blazing infernos'. Buckle-up justice fans!:laugh:

Anyone still trying to claim a ''witch hunt'' or ''nothing-burger'' at this stage of the game is willfully ignorant at best. Some people are going to have a severe case of 'egg on face' and at the rate this whole illegal farce is falling apart it's not gonna' be long coming.

JTM45
15-07-2017, 10:20 PM
Whether or not the russians or anyone else helped trump is utterly irrelevant, its a democracy anyone has the right to help in any way they can

Well this ^^^^ 'statement' just goes to prove that you know less than nothing about Politics or Law!:facepalm:

It is ABSOLUTELY ILLEGAL for any foreign National or Government to be involved in or contribute anything to the running camapign of any Political Party involved in a US Election.

letmein
16-07-2017, 12:36 AM
Trump's collusion is disturbing.