'All white people are racist'

[Crimson Dynamo]

All white people are racist': Cambridge University probes head of equality group for saying white men, women and children 'can all get it’ as he heaps praise on London rioters in shocking Twitter outburst

Jason Osamede Okundaye posted tweets amid violent protests

He said white people 'colonised' Dalston and said it was 'delicious' to watch riots

The Cambridge student wrote: 'ALL white people are racist. White middle class, white working class, white men, white women, white gays, white children'

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The student head of Cambridge's equality group has claimed that 'all white people are racist' after praising rioters in Dalston who lit bonfires and hurled petrol bombs at police.

Jason Osamede Okundaye, who runs the Black and Minority Ethnic society at the elite institution, posted the shocking tweets amid violent protests in east London last night over the death of Rashan Charles.

He said that white people had 'colonised' Dalston and ordered them to 'go back' to areas such as Exeter and 'Solihurst' (sic).

Okundaye, 20, wrote to his thousands of Twitter followers: 'ALL white people are racist. White middle class, white working class, white men, white women, white gays, white children they can ALL geddit.'

The student at Cambridge's Pembroke College also claimed it was 'absolutely delicious' to watch 'middle-class white people despair over black people protesting in their colonised Dalston'.

A spokesman for the University said: 'The College is looking into this matter and will respond appropriately.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4741878/Jason-Osamede-Okundaye-says-white-people-racist.html

I think this young lad should steer clear of alcohol and twitter, what a plank

[Dominic]

What a ****ing idiot. :joker:

[Dominic]

I mean generalizing people of a certain race is racist itself so poor him.

[lewis111]

Kind of impossible seeing as no one is born racist - so white children can't be racist until they are exposed to racism and told that it what is right

Just a stupid way of trying to get a point across that belittles the actual moment to fight racism

[Crimson Dynamo]

coming for them white gays too

:omgno:

[Oliver_W]

sounds like the kind of idiot who thinks black people can't be racist toward white people.

[lewis111]

He must not have seen that a massive amount of the people protesting are white

[TaylorCallum]

He lowkey didn't lie. Obviously not everyone is consciously racist or deliberately discriminatory towards others because of their skin colour but we do live in a white privileged society and ethnic minorities are still oppressed today, so growing up in that sort of culture surely has some sort of impact on our psyche. I'm sure there's a little bit of subconscious racism in everyone.

[Firewire]

sounds like the kind of idiot who thinks black people can't be racist toward white people.

They can't so

[Firewire]

He lowkey didn't lie. Obviously not everyone is consciously racist or deliberately discriminatory towards others because of their skin colour but we do live in a white privileged society and ethnic minorities are still oppressed today, so growing up in that sort of culture surely has some sort of impact on our psyche. I'm sure there's a little bit of subconscious racism in everyone.

Completely agree

[Withano]

I was confused at why anybody cared about what this bloke thought.. and then I saw the link to the Daily Mail lol. Classic them. Obviously he's a moron, what else is there to say.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They can't so

So if a black man hates on a white person because they are white and the white person cannot help being white and the hate is irrational

What do you call that?

i am looking for a handy one word descriptor here

[TaylorCallum]

So if a black man hates on a white person because they are white and the white person cannot help being white and the hate is irrational

What do you call that?

i am looking for a handy one word descriptor here

Prejudice? Discrimination? One of those.

Not racism because black people hold no power over white people in society. It's semantics really though I guess. Both are wrong.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Prejudice? Discrimination? One of those.

Not racism because black people hold no power over white people in society. It's semantics really though I guess. Both are wrong.

or racism as its hating on a race

[Crimson Dynamo]

I am sure if I was living in say Chad and i was being picked on and insulted for being white and different I would probably thing "they are being racist"

I would not be having an entitlement debate with myself or googling "dear white people"

[Dominic]

They can't so

Minorities can be racist towards white people, get over it.

[Dominic]

Prejudice? Discrimination? One of those.

Not racism because black people hold no power over white people in society. It's semantics really though I guess. Both are wrong.

Racism - prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

It doesn't matter if they hold power or not, if someone is discriminatory to someone because of their race, it's racism.

[Dominic]

He lowkey didn't lie. Obviously not everyone is consciously racist or deliberately discriminatory towards others because of their skin colour but we do live in a white privileged society and ethnic minorities are still oppressed today, so growing up in that sort of culture surely has some sort of impact on our psyche. I'm sure there's a little bit of subconscious racism in everyone.

:umm2:

[TaylorCallum]

:umm2:

Not really sure what you're ":umm2:" at? It's a fact. White people are at an advantage in society and ethnic minorities are at a disadvantage.

[Redway]

So if a black man hates on a white person because they are white and the white person cannot help being white and the hate is irrational

What do you call that?

i am looking for a handy one word descriptor here

It's not racism. There's plenty of black and white idiots out there alike but you need to familiarise yourself with the context and history of the word racism.

[Redway]

Not really sure what you're ":umm2:" at? It's a fact. White people are at an advantage in society and ethnic minorities are at a disadvantage.

Some people like to deny the obvious.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's not racism. There's plenty of black and white idiots out there alike but you need to familiarise yourself with the context and history of the word racism.

It is racism unless you have some sort of credentials to show me?

maybe a degree in expertism?

[Firewire]

Minorities can be racist towards white people, get over it.

http://i.giphy.com/3o6Ygoq046ud6X0C0U.gif

[Marsh.]

Minorities can be racist towards white people, get over it.

Do you know what "minority" means?

[Oliver_W]

The silly "Power+Prejudice" thing has stuck around way longer than it deserves.

[T*]

They can't so

...really?

[T*]

I just want equality yet the fact places like buzzfeed are churning articles of the likes like '20 things white people ruined' etc. IS getting problematic and it's backwards

[Oliver_W]

It is racism unless you have some sort of credentials to show me?

maybe a degree in expertism?

The power+privilege thing started in a book called Developing New Perspectives on Race, from the 1970s. Thankfully the actual, working definition is the way most sensible people think of it, but the power+privilege is an academic definition,the kind of thing you'd hear in a Sociology course, but let's be real, you hear a lot of **** in Sociology courses.

[Marsh.]

The power+privilege thing started in a book called Developing New Perspectives on Race, from the 1970s.

:facepalm:

[RichardG]

racist idiot

[Oliver_W]

:facepalm:
Okay, where did it come from?

[ClaireS92]

BS Im white and I used to be Publicity secretary for Anti Apartheid.I was involved with a lot of anti racist groups.I ve kept serious racists in their place several times.i wont bore you with any more details because i didn t come here for that and that s a long time in my past too but that Cambridge guy really is a clown if he believes that when there is so much evidence that there are many like me who detest racism and any time necessary which I d do again if necess they d step up to make sure the racists were put back under their stone again .

[Tom4784]

Ah, the ol' tactic of highlighting one idiot to undermine anything and everything to do with equality. Typical Daily Mail.

[Redway]

It is racism unless you have some sort of credentials to show me?

maybe a degree in expertism?

There's no such thing as black racism mate. White people weren't oppressed and enslaved for hundreds of years. That fact might go over your head but it does make all the difference because racism's always been based on a traditional social hierarchy system. There's tons of black and white idiots alike out there like I say though.

[Brillopad]

There's no such thing as black racism mate. White people weren't oppressed and enslaved for hundreds of years. That fact might go over your head but it does make all the difference because racism's always been based on a traditional social hierarchy system. There's tons of black and white idiots alike out there like I say though.

That is a load of old tosh mate!

https://medium.com/humanist-voices/can-minorities-be-racist-a9ff8c7bc102

Lot of truth is this article.

The racism card is often a weapon used by those trying to take the moral high ground, those that simply want to shut down opinion and those with tunnel vision.

[JTM45]

That is a load of old tosh mate!


It really isn't!

True racism is something that's ingrained in modern society because of the way it came about and the effect it had, and is still having on vast numbers of people today.

White people being discriminated against isn't and never will be 'racism' in the true sense and we will never begin to be able to experience the oppression that black people have and still do. White people have never been a race that has been systematically discriminated against by a different vastly bigger race, enslaved and treated as nothing more than livestock or currency.

[Nicky91]

i'm white and i'm not racist :fist:

[Crimson Dynamo]

There's no such thing as black racism mate. White people weren't oppressed and enslaved for hundreds of years. That fact might go over your head but it does make all the difference because racism's always been based on a traditional social hierarchy system. There's tons of black and white idiots alike out there like I say though.

i am not your mate

[Crimson Dynamo]

i'm white and i'm not racist :fist:

Nicky takes the "am i a racist test"..


LLWWFU7r2K0

[Nicky91]

Nicky takes the "am i a racist test"..


LLWWFU7r2K0

i don't need to take that test, cause i know i'm not a racist ;)

[Crimson Dynamo]

i don't need to take that test, cause i know i'm not a racist ;)

Thats what a racist would say tho

:suspect:

[Nicky91]

Thats what a racist would say tho

:suspect:

i'm maybe a lot of things, but a racist i am not :fist:

[Crimson Dynamo]

i'm maybe a lot of things, but a racist i am not :fist:

wooah dont get angry with me, i am white :worry:

[Nicky91]

wooah dont get angry with me, i am white :worry:

sorry, ur lovely LT :hug:

[user104658]

There's no such thing as black racism mate. White people weren't oppressed and enslaved for hundreds of years. That fact might go over your head but it does make all the difference because racism's always been based on a traditional social hierarchy system. There's tons of black and white idiots alike out there like I say though.I hate having to go back here every once and a while on TiBB but find myself having to again.

There are different types of racism. Institutional racism, and personal racism. Institutional racism has a power element involved and the vast majority of institutional racism is carried out by white people, for obvious reasons, and can only be carried out by a majority population. It is not exclusively white, because it also occurs in non-white majority countries such as Japan, but globally, institutional racism is white.

That does not mean than non whites can't be racist. There is also personal racism, which is between individuals and does not involve any element of power nor oppression. Any form of racial prejudice is personal racism. An individual of any race can be guilty of personal racism. It doesn't even have to involve white people at all - a black man who hates Native Americans is racist. A Japanese woman who can't stand Chinese people is racist. Etc etc.

Also just to pre-empt the usual secondary argument: severity doesnt change the definition of the word either. The fact that historical white-on-black racism is far, far more serious (and institutional racism in general is still more serious) than pockets of personal racism, does not somehow make the word "sacred" or change its definition. "You can't say this is racism because here's some REALLY BAD racism so you need a new word!". It's not logical. Someone who skins a hundred people alive is a mass murderer. That doesn't mean someone who "just" shoots one person between the eyes "can't possibly be a murderer because there are worse examples".

Pointing out the obvious fact that personal racial prejudice - AKA racism - exists in every racial group doesn't take away from the horrors of historical or institutional racism.

[Alf]

Sorry staff member who just infracted me, but the last time I reported a post, I got infracted (ask James if you don't believe me). So why would I do that?

[Josy]

Alf I gave you that warning there, stop posting about that sort of thing on the forum you know perfectly well it's against the rules, use pm if you need to speak to a mod or admin.

Now keep on topic please.

[Underscore]

i'm white and i'm not racist :fist:

geert wilders ;)

joking!

[Redway]

That is a load of old tosh mate!

https://medium.com/humanist-voices/can-minorities-be-racist-a9ff8c7bc102

Lot of truth is this article.

The racism card is often a weapon used by those trying to take the moral high ground, those that simply want to shut down opinion and those with tunnel vision.

I stopped reading it when the guy said he'd use his own personal definition of racism. We both know that's not the historical definition.

[Redway]

wooah dont get angry with me, i am white :worry:

Obviously

[Crimson Dynamo]

I hate having to go back here every once and a while on TiBB but find myself having to again.

There are different types of racism. Institutional racism, and personal racism. Institutional racism has a power element involved and the vast majority of institutional racism is carried out by white people, for obvious reasons, and can only be carried out by a majority population. It is not exclusively white, because it also occurs in non-white majority countries such as Japan, but globally, institutional racism is white.

That does not mean than non whites can't be racist. There is also personal racism, which is between individuals and does not involve any element of power nor oppression. Any form of racial prejudice is personal racism. An individual of any race can be guilty of personal racism. It doesn't even have to involve white people at all - a black man who hates Native Americans is racist. A Japanese woman who can't stand Chinese people is racist. Etc etc.

Also just to pre-empt the usual secondary argument: severity doesnt change the definition of the word either. The fact that historical white-on-black racism is far, far more serious (and institutional racism in general is still more serious) than pockets of personal racism, does not somehow make the word "sacred" or change its definition. "You can't say this is racism because here's some REALLY BAD racism so you need a new word!". It's not logical. Someone who skins a hundred people alive is a mass murderer. That doesn't mean someone who "just" shoots one person between the eyes "can't possibly be a murderer because there are worse examples".

Pointing out the obvious fact that personal racial prejudice - AKA racism - exists in every racial group doesn't take away from the horrors of historical or institutional racism.

:clap1:

well put TS

[smudgie]

I hate having to go back here every once and a while on TiBB but find myself having to again.

There are different types of racism. Institutional racism, and personal racism. Institutional racism has a power element involved and the vast majority of institutional racism is carried out by white people, for obvious reasons, and can only be carried out by a majority population. It is not exclusively white, because it also occurs in non-white majority countries such as Japan, but globally, institutional racism is white.

That does not mean than non whites can't be racist. There is also personal racism, which is between individuals and does not involve any element of power nor oppression. Any form of racial prejudice is personal racism. An individual of any race can be guilty of personal racism. It doesn't even have to involve white people at all - a black man who hates Native Americans is racist. A Japanese woman who can't stand Chinese people is racist. Etc etc.

Also just to pre-empt the usual secondary argument: severity doesnt change the definition of the word either. The fact that historical white-on-black racism is far, far more serious (and institutional racism in general is still more serious) than pockets of personal racism, does not somehow make the word "sacred" or change its definition. "You can't say this is racism because here's some REALLY BAD racism so you need a new word!". It's not logical. Someone who skins a hundred people alive is a mass murderer. That doesn't mean someone who "just" shoots one person between the eyes "can't possibly be a murderer because there are worse examples".

Pointing out the obvious fact that personal racial prejudice - AKA racism - exists in every racial group doesn't take away from the horrors of historical or institutional racism.

Pleased to see you jump back in TS.
I agree on every point.
The young man in the video comes across as a bit of a twit.

[lostalex]

If all white people were racist, black people would still be slaves.

[user104658]

I stopped reading it when the guy said he'd use his own personal definition of racism. We both know that's not the historical definition.

racism

noun

"Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior."

"The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."

synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice/bigotry, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, bias, intolerance



The definition of racism is simple, succinct and clear. People altering or adding to "their own definition" of words seems to be a pretty big problem across the board. For example, adding a requirement of power-holding, oppression or even majority to the definition of racism when no such requirement exists, or, it seems, colloquialising the term "institutional racism" down to just "racism" with scant regard for the fact that that word is already in use.

1. White people can be racist. Black people can be racist. Anyone can be racist.

2. There is a long, horrible and dark history of institutional racism against black and other minority ethnic groups, 99% perpetrated by white people in power, that is still a major problem to this day.


These two statements don't conflict. They are both valid, true and important. There's no need to muddy the waters further with vague and incorrectly used terminology.

[Livia]

Poor, underprivileged black man.... who has a place at Cambridge.

Ridiculous dickhead, whatever colour he is.

[Lostie!]

I hate having to go back here every once and a while on TiBB but find myself having to again.

There are different types of racism. Institutional racism, and personal racism. Institutional racism has a power element involved and the vast majority of institutional racism is carried out by white people, for obvious reasons, and can only be carried out by a majority population. It is not exclusively white, because it also occurs in non-white majority countries such as Japan, but globally, institutional racism is white.

That does not mean than non whites can't be racist. There is also personal racism, which is between individuals and does not involve any element of power nor oppression. Any form of racial prejudice is personal racism. An individual of any race can be guilty of personal racism. It doesn't even have to involve white people at all - a black man who hates Native Americans is racist. A Japanese woman who can't stand Chinese people is racist. Etc etc.

Also just to pre-empt the usual secondary argument: severity doesnt change the definition of the word either. The fact that historical white-on-black racism is far, far more serious (and institutional racism in general is still more serious) than pockets of personal racism, does not somehow make the word "sacred" or change its definition. "You can't say this is racism because here's some REALLY BAD racism so you need a new word!". It's not logical. Someone who skins a hundred people alive is a mass murderer. That doesn't mean someone who "just" shoots one person between the eyes "can't possibly be a murderer because there are worse examples".

Pointing out the obvious fact that personal racial prejudice - AKA racism - exists in every racial group doesn't take away from the horrors of historical or institutional racism.

racism

noun

"Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior."

"The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."

synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice/bigotry, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, bias, intolerance



The definition of racism is simple, succinct and clear. People altering or adding to "their own definition" of words seems to be a pretty big problem across the board. For example, adding a requirement of power-holding, oppression or even majority to the definition of racism when no such requirement exists, or, it seems, colloquialising the term "institutional racism" down to just "racism" with scant regard for the fact that that word is already in use.

1. White people can be racist. Black people can be racist. Anyone can be racist.

2. There is a long, horrible and dark history of institutional racism against black and other minority ethnic groups, 99% perpetrated by white people in power, that is still a major problem to this day.


These two statements don't conflict. They are both valid, true and important. There's no need to muddy the waters further with vague and incorrectly used terminology.

:clap1:

[Livia]

It really isn't!

True racism is something that's ingrained in modern society because of the way it came about and the effect it had, and is still having on vast numbers of people today.

White people being discriminated against isn't and never will be 'racism' in the true sense and we will never begin to be able to experience the oppression that black people have and still do. White people have never been a race that has been systematically discriminated against by a different vastly bigger race, enslaved and treated as nothing more than livestock or currency.

Never? White people have NEVER been enslaved? Just that comment alone makes me think I probably shouldn't bother with a reply, but here goes nothing...

I'm white and Jewish. What's the word with me? Can I be racist? Can you be racist to me?

If I said all non-Jews are racist, is that okay? No... if course it's not.

This man is black and he is a racist, no matter how you spin it, no matter who you quote. He. Is. A. Racist.

[Tom4784]

Never? White people have NEVER been enslaved? Just that comment alone makes me think I probably shouldn't bother with a reply, but here goes nothing...

I'm white and Jewish. What's the word with me? Can I be racist? Can you be racist to me?

If I said all non-Jews are racist, is that okay? No... if course it's not.

This man is black and he is a racist, no matter how you spin it, no matter who you quote. He. Is. A. Racist.

You ignored the context of the statement.

'White people have never been a race that has been systematically discriminated against by a different vastly bigger race, enslaved and treated as nothing more than livestock or currency.'

As a whole, it's a true statement. White people have never been enslaved by another race simply because they are white. White slavery has pretty much only been a thing when the Vikings and Romans were around and that wasn't the same since it was mostly white people oppressing other white people.

While the statement 'All White people are racist' is stupid, the idea that white people can't be victims of racism in the same way that black people are is very true because racism against black people is systematic and ingrained in both history and society.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You ignored the context of the statement.

'White people have never been a race that has been systematically discriminated against by a different vastly bigger race, enslaved and treated as nothing more than livestock or currency.'

As a whole, it's a true statement. White people have never been enslaved by another race simply because they are white. White slavery has pretty much only been a thing when the Vikings and Romans were around and that wasn't the same since it was mostly white people oppressing other white people.

While the statement 'All White people are racist' is stupid, the idea that white people can't be victims of racism in the same way that black people are is very true because racism against black people is systematic and ingrained in both history and society.

...in America

[Niamh.]

I hate having to go back here every once and a while on TiBB but find myself having to again.

There are different types of racism. Institutional racism, and personal racism. Institutional racism has a power element involved and the vast majority of institutional racism is carried out by white people, for obvious reasons, and can only be carried out by a majority population. It is not exclusively white, because it also occurs in non-white majority countries such as Japan, but globally, institutional racism is white.

That does not mean than non whites can't be racist. There is also personal racism, which is between individuals and does not involve any element of power nor oppression. Any form of racial prejudice is personal racism. An individual of any race can be guilty of personal racism. It doesn't even have to involve white people at all - a black man who hates Native Americans is racist. A Japanese woman who can't stand Chinese people is racist. Etc etc.

Also just to pre-empt the usual secondary argument: severity doesnt change the definition of the word either. The fact that historical white-on-black racism is far, far more serious (and institutional racism in general is still more serious) than pockets of personal racism, does not somehow make the word "sacred" or change its definition. "You can't say this is racism because here's some REALLY BAD racism so you need a new word!". It's not logical. Someone who skins a hundred people alive is a mass murderer. That doesn't mean someone who "just" shoots one person between the eyes "can't possibly be a murderer because there are worse examples".

Pointing out the obvious fact that personal racial prejudice - AKA racism - exists in every racial group doesn't take away from the horrors of historical or institutional racism.

Hard to argue with that tbf

[user104658]

While the statement 'All White people are racist' is stupid, the idea that white people can't be victims of racism in the same way that black people are is very true because racism against black people is systematic and ingrained in both history and society.

It's almost certainly true that white people can't be victims of racism in the same way that black people are. But at what point does it follow from that statement, that white people therefore can't experience personal racism at all (they can), or that ethnicities other than white can't be guilty of being racist? In fact, a person can be guilty of being racist even if no one at all is being persecuted, victimised, or affected in any way by that person's racism. It's simply beyond the scope of the meaning of the word.

Again I feel like this comes down to the old, and totally illogical and flawed, argument that something "can't be a thing" if there is another, worse, example of the same thing. The idea that no one in the UK is suffering from poverty "because Chinese children are in factories!!". No one in the UK is going hungry "because there are children starving in Africa!".

While there are worse conditions in the world - there are still poor people in the UK.

While there are areas affected by true famine - there are still hungry and malnourished kids in wealthy countries, eating meals but not good ones.

While historical racism is horrendous, institutional racism is still a huge problem, and there are ingrained cultural racism issues towards ethnic minorities... racism and racist attacks on white people do still happen.

It exists. I don't know why people are desperate to pretend otherwise. Again I can only suppose that people have this idea that acknowledging it will somehow "dilute" other problems. Which is nonsense.

[Tom4784]

It's almost certainly true that white people can't be victims of racism in the same way that black people are. But at what point does it follow from that statement, that white people therefore can't experience personal racism at all (they can), or that ethnicities other than white can't be guilty of being racist? In fact, a person can be guilty of being racist even if no one at all is being persecuted, victimised, or affected in any way by that person's racism. It's simply beyond the scope of the meaning of the word.

Again I feel like this comes down to the old, and totally illogical and flawed, argument that something "can't be a thing" if there is another, worse, example of the same thing. The idea that no one in the UK is suffering from poverty "because Chinese children are in factories!!". No one in the UK is going hungry "because there are children starving in Africa!".

While there are worse conditions in the world - there are still poor people in the UK.

While there are areas affected by true famine - there are still hungry and malnourished kids in wealthy countries, eating meals but not good ones.

While historical racism is horrendous, institutional racism is still a huge problem, and there are ingrained cultural racism issues towards ethnic minorities... racism and racist attacks on white people do still happen.

It exists. I don't know why people are desperate to pretend otherwise. Again I can only suppose that people have this idea that acknowledging it will somehow "dilute" other problems. Which is nonsense.

I was talking more from the systematic point of view, I've never disagreed with the fact that any ethnicity can be racist on a personal level.

[user104658]

I was talking more from the systematic point of view, I've never disagreed with the fact that any ethnicity can be racist on a personal level.

I think it's becoming an issue though, that people are starting to use "racism" as a term specifically meaning institutional / systemic racism and failing to recognise that other forms of racism exist at all (or trying to insist that those forms of racism be termed something else).

I'm not entirely sure what the motivation for doing that is, but the effect of it is pretty clear: confusion, and backlash.

People proclaim proudly and confidently; "Only white people can be racist! Reverse racism isn't a thing! Ethnic minorities cannot be racist!"... which is true only of institutional racism... so, people are hearing this on the one hand but on the other can see quite plainly that racial prejudice in various forms exists across the board and so the important focus - combatting very real inequalities - gets completely lost in an argument that quickly stops making sense.

Basically I find that people then get so caught up in all of that, that it becomes impossible for any progress to be made on the real world issues. In other words... accepting that racism exists across the board, in different ways and to varying degrees, right across the board would actually be BETTER for those suffering the worst of it than vehemently attempting to deny it, which seems to be purely out of pride / incredulity, rather than a desire to see change.

[Redway]

i am not your mate

Did I say you were?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Did I say you were?

happy birthday

[Gstar]

White gays are racist though :laugh:

[bots]

White gays are racist though :laugh:

thats a rather good point given that they are a minority and therefore can't be :laugh:

[Marsh.]

White gays are racist though [emoji23]
They're just jealous of your flawless skin tone.

[Crimson Dynamo]

White gays are racist though :laugh:

:clap1:

and vile heterophobes

#exposethem

[Livia]

A black person saying all whites are racist is just as abhorrent to me as a far-Right bonehead saying black people are inferior/not welcome/some other derogatory statement. It's divisive at a time when we ought to be sticking together.

[Northern Monkey]

People again mixing up institutional racism with just plain old racism.TS is obviously right.I've been saying this for years and so has TS in here.Anyone of any race or creed can be racist.I've experienced it plenty of times in Asian areas as a white person.It happens.

Saying all whites are racist is racist in itself.