Money for my shift missing

[Daniel-X]

So basically yesterday, I did a full EIGHT hour shift at work (with one fifteen minute break). My boss told me my wages from the previous work were in the box in the store room, I looked at the end of my shift and they weren't there. He started asking me had I picked them up and forgot etc. which I knew I'd not and he knew I'd not, he was just scrambling cos he was panicking. He told me he'd ring the accountant today and let me know but he's yet to inform me if he's phoned the accountant or not (it's only £35 but it's annoying cos it's a full eight hours shift pay that I may as well have not done).

I think personally, one of the staff have took it but idk. I'm going to ring him tomorrow and ask for his accountants number myself if he doesn't get back to me.

The reason I'm asking this is would you quit? I mean it's a pretty **** job anyway, I'm on minimum wage (£4.05), do ridiculous shifts like 7:30am to 3:30pm (with one fifteen minute break), get called into work sometimes the day before and now this has happened.

[Daniel-X]

I should add it's only part time too, I'm still at college full time.

[Greg!]

£4.05 an hour?? Isn't that like... illegal?
Also an 8 hour shift with ONE 15 minute break is trash.
And your wages going missing?

I would quit and find a new job if I were you, especially as you're at college and it's taking up so much of your time.

[Headie]

IMO look around for another job but don't quit until you have a new one (unless you REALLY hate it and it's having a heavy, negative impact on your life constantly)

[Greg!]

IMO look around for another job but don't quit until you have a new one (unless you REALLY hate it and it's having a heavy, negative impact on your life constantly)

Yeah this but I didn't know how to articulate it

[Will.]

Ugh that sounds awful, I'd be fuming. I did a job whilst at college and it was so draining but it was only for 2 months as they sacked me because I was "useless" :skull:

Is there anyone who you think could have took the money?

I'd perhaps try and find another job because you're too good to be robbed like this babes! :love:

[Daniel-X]

£4.05 an hour?? Isn't that like... illegal?
Also an 8 hour shift with ONE 15 minute break is trash.
And your wages going missing?

I would quit and find a new job if I were you, especially as you're at college and it's taking up so much of your time.

It's the new minimum wage (but you get money taken out your wages for 'stock', so basically if I wanted a bottle of water or a butty on my break it gets taken out my wages :skull:), the shifts are ridiculous I come home absolutely KNACKERED.

I'm going to start looking for one, my mum wasn't keen on the idea at first because she was like 'but it was nice of them to give you the job!' even though only like four people applied :skull: but now this happened yesterday even she said I should ditch the place.

It's literally a death trap in there too, there's no books with our records on, rota's are text to us so there's no record of us working there (cos we're paid cash in hand and he doesn't have our national insurance numbers), the electric goes out all the time, the friers for the chips/hash browns/sausages are crumbling apart it's a mess.

[Daniel-X]

IMO look around for another job but don't quit until you have a new one (unless you REALLY hate it and it's having a heavy, negative impact on your life constantly)

Yeah this but I didn't know how to articulate it

Ugh that sounds awful, I'd be fuming. I did a job whilst at college and it was so draining.

Is there anyone who you think could have took the money?

I'd perhaps try and find another job because you're too good to be robbed like this babes! :love:

I'll stick with it for as long as I can, but if I don't get this money back for my shift I'll be quitting because it's an absolute disgrace. I'm going to start looking for other jobs tomorrow :love: but I get where you're both coming from because I was depressed when I had no job/money

Literally no idea, it's for my shift I did about two weeks ago and there's like twenty staff who work there (about two or three I haven't even met yet). I'm definitely quitting unless this money somehow ends up turning up.

[Greg!]

Ugh that sounds awful, I'd be fuming. I did a job whilst at college and it was so draining but it was only for 2 months as they sacked me because I was "useless" :skull:


Aw babes they'll regret saying that when you're rich and famous!

[Greg!]

It's the new minimum wage (but you get money taken out your wages for 'stock', so basically if I wanted a bottle of water or a butty on my break it gets taken out my wages :skull:), the shifts are ridiculous I come home absolutely KNACKERED.

I'm going to start looking for one, my mum wasn't keen on the idea at first because she was like 'but it was nice of them to give you the job!' even though only like four people applied :skull: but now this happened yesterday even she said I should ditch the place.

It's literally a death trap in there too, there's no books with our records on, rota's are text to us so there's no record of us working there (cos we're paid cash in hand and he doesn't have our national insurance numbers), the electric goes out all the time, the friers for the chips/hash browns/sausages are crumbling apart it's a mess.

Yeah I'd quit unless you really want the money (but they're not even paying you so :skull: )

[Greg!]

Find a cute vegan cafe, I worked at one a bit last year, the staff and customers were a bit... interesting but they were very sweet, the pay was good and it was really clean. Maybe I just got lucky with that one

[Daniel-X]

I've worked there now for three months anyway and been aching to leave for about two :skull:

[Jason.]

Sounds like slave labour.

Get the money they owe you and if you're really not happy with working there (it sounds like you're not) then I'd quit and look for another job.

[Daniel-X]

Find a cute vegan cafe, I worked at one a bit last year, the staff and customers were a bit... interesting but the pay was good and it was really clean.

That sounds gorgeous :love:

It's loads of work men and rugby lads that come into my cafe :(because it's on the middle of an industrial estate and near a local rugby ground) oh and quite a few lets just say politely, rough people, cos there's a council estate right round the corner.

[Daniel.]

What job is it? You can not work 8 hours with a fifteen minute break

[Daniel-X]

I'm penned in for:

8:00-3:00 on Saturday and 8:00-2:00 on Sunday but I won't be working either shift unless this money shows up

[Daniel-X]

What job is it? You can not work 8 hours with a fifteen minute break

A kitchen assistant in the cafe (I make breakfasts, wash posts, basically a skivvy) it's run illegally (cash in hand, no books, no national insurance numbers for members of staff) so they don't care about the breaks. Loads of my friends that work at other places get like an hours break too on six hour shifts, it's so annoying.

[Will.]

I'll stick with it for as long as I can, but if I don't get this money back for my shift I'll be quitting because it's an absolute disgrace. I'm going to start looking for other jobs tomorrow :love: but I get where you're both coming from because I was depressed when I had no job/money

Literally no idea, it's for my shift I did about two weeks ago and there's like twenty staff who work there (about two or three I haven't even met yet). I'm definitely quitting unless this money somehow ends up turning up.

Yeah definitely quit if the money doesn't up. Oh that's quite a lot of staff then, I hope it all works out! X

Aw babes they'll regret saying that when you're rich and famous!

Oh wow thank Hun, hopefully that day will be soon. X

[Moosething]

Mess I get like a whole hour break for an 8 hour shift. You need to get outta there!

[Locke.]

Couldn't work for 4 quid an hour, would rather do without

[Wizard.]

Wow working at Primark sounds better than that. Find a nice sugar daddy like i did.

[Samm]

mess that's ****ed at only 15 minutes in a 8 hour shift :skull: sue ha babes and snatch the dolla

[Kizzy]

So you don't get a wage slip? Are you paying nat ins and tax?
If no, leave today.

[arista]

"The reason I'm asking this is would you quit?"


NO stay there
until you 100% have better contract
to jump ship.



Keep a income at all times
That's YOUR CASH

[arista]

Wow working at Primark sounds better than that. Find a nice sugar daddy like i did.


do you keep him clean?


PRIMARK is a GREAT SHOP, Happy Riley
Climb the Ladder

[arista]

So you don't get a wage slip? Are you paying nat ins and tax?
If no, leave today.

KIZZY he get's a wage break down
ONLINE.



PLEASE Do not tell Folks to Leave
that's irrepressible
He needs his OWN Money

[arista]

I should add it's only part time too, I'm still at college full time.


Thats all right I had
2 jobs when I was at College




Stick At it DX

[AnnieK]

Legally....if you work over 6 hours you are meant to have minimum 20 minutes break.

[thesheriff443]

Leaving your wages in a box in the store room is moronic

[Gstar]

They're trying to dodge taxes and legal fees by paying you cash in hand (at an illegal wage) so the least they can do is give you what you worked for. Please don't turn up to work if you haven't received this by your next shift. Also, look for a better job

[RichardG]

^ to be fair, £4.05 is the minimum wage for people under 18, that's not illegal

i'm under 21 and i only get paid £5.60

paying by cash left in the store room is dodgy tho

[Crimson Dynamo]

A couple of things to note

1. he needs to talk to his accountant about 35 quid? :laugh2: - sounds like he cant afford to pay you. His ""accountant" will at best do a few hours work for him once a year at most. So that is a bare face lie.

2. Dont moan about working in a bloody shop for 8 hours. SO what you got a small break, what else do you need, you are not doing physical work and if you got an hour what would you do with it once you had eaten save going on your phone? If you are already moaning about working for a living at your age you wont amount to to much. Just get on with it and make the most of the opportunity and if you dont like the work go and find another job, plenty around.

If the wages were stolen then he will just have to pay you from his own wallet. If he does not, leave.

[waterhog]

"The reason I'm asking this is would you quit?"


NO stay there
until you 100% have better contract
to jump ship.



Keep a income at all times
That's YOUR CASH


great advice arista - that's right - line something up before you jump ship. also I would put it in writing about how the pay is paid ie left in a envelope with other workers able to access this - this is not acceptable and must break confidential and private information rules of the business - speak to pay rule office.


if this fails - tell them the hog will write you a love of his life poem - that should do the trick.

[Josy]

Your breaks should be longer.

If you aren't paying tax and insurance you are working there illegally so i'm willing to bet you aren't insured for working in there either, very risky, I would find something asap and get out.

[arista]

^ to be fair, £4.05 is the minimum wage for people under 18, that's not illegal

i'm under 21 and i only get paid £5.60

paying by cash left in the store room is dodgy though

how nice

[arista]

Your breaks should be longer.

If you aren't paying tax and insurance you are working there illegally so i'm willing to bet you aren't insured for working in there either, very risky, I would find something asap and get out.


Hang on a minute, Josie
Primark can employ someone else
who is happy with shorter breaks.





Man UP

[Josy]

Hang on a minute, Josie
Primark can employ someone else
who is happy with shorter breaks.





Man UPIts not about manning up arista its about basic working rights.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Hang on a minute, Josie
Primark can employ someone else
who is happy with shorter breaks.





Man UP

:umm2:

you are literally the face of capitalism

[arista]

:umm2:

you are literally the face of capitalism


how nice VF

[arista]

Its not about manning up arista its about basic working rights.




I agree , Be UPFRONT and LEGAL

Army Training is needed for some Posters
it will correct them




Life In The City

[arista]

"great advice arista - that's right - line something up before you jump ship."

Good on You HOG
you know the system....

[Crimson Dynamo]

Middle girl LT is working 2 shifts a day in the local pub, running a lucrative babysitting racket locally and looking after 2 horses in between for cash money. She is raking in that dollar. Good girl.

Mind you she just messaged me to buy her wellies

:oh:

[waterhog]

"great advice arista - that's right - line something up before you jump ship."

Good on You HOG
you know the system....



arista - if you no me buy now you would no - I would do a poem on them and name and shame them :joker:

and it would be no love of my life poem :shrug:

there is only one - arista baby :nono:

[Daniel-X]

A couple of things to note

1. he needs to talk to his accountant about 35 quid? :laugh2: - sounds like he cant afford to pay you. His ""accountant" will at best do a few hours work for him once a year at most. So that is a bare face lie.

2. Dont moan about working in a bloody shop for 8 hours. SO what you got a small break, what else do you need, you are not doing physical work and if you got an hour what would you do with it once you had eaten save going on your phone? If you are already moaning about working for a living at your age you wont amount to to much. Just get on with it and make the most of the opportunity and if you dont like the work go and find another job, plenty around.

If the wages were stolen then he will just have to pay you from his own wallet. If he does not, leave.

I'm moaning because it's ridiculous? It's literally so stressful. I make at least 100 breakfasts a shift/sometimes bordering on 150. I need to be able to give myself time to think and relax because sometimes I burn out mid shift because I'm never off my feet rushing around. I'm pretty sure I'll be fine working at somewhere what's run legally thanks.

[Daniel-X]

Your breaks should be longer.

If you aren't paying tax and insurance you are working there illegally so i'm willing to bet you aren't insured for working in there either, very risky, I would find something asap and get out.

I was thinking this as well, it's risky because it's in a cafe what's basically a shambles, one of the girls who work with me really badly burned herself the other week when I was away apparently getting the beans out the Bain Marie.

[arista]

I'm moaning because it's ridiculous? It's literally so stressful. I make at least 100 breakfasts a shift/sometimes bordering on 150. I need to be able to give myself time to think and relax because sometimes I burn out mid shift because I'm never off my feet rushing around. I'm pretty sure I'll be fine working at somewhere what's run legally thanks.


Its Good For You
gets you ready for Army
in case you get CALLED UP etc...../..


Feel The Force

[arista]

I was thinking this as well, it's risky because it's in a cafe what's basically a shambles, one of the girls who work with me really badly burned herself the other week when I was away apparently getting the beans out the Bain Marie.


Was SHE
out the night before??



This is why we need robots
they do not Moan like you
young fella.

Life In The Fast Lane

[jaxie]

I'd mention to your employer that the Employment Tribunal has just been declared free to those who want to sue an employer over money not received and add that they will be very interested at said tribunal that you are are earning just over £4.00 an hour which isn't legal. I expect your money will be found fairly quickly. Look for another job, they are taking the piss out of you.

[T*]

Its Good For You
gets you ready for Army
in case you get CALLED UP etc...../..


Feel The Force

Was SHE
out the night before??



This is why we need robots
they do not Moan like you
young fella.

Life In The Fast Lane
Are you actually being serious right now...?

[jaxie]

Your breaks should be longer.

If you aren't paying tax and insurance you are working there illegally so i'm willing to bet you aren't insured for working in there either, very risky, I would find something asap and get out.

He wouldn't be paying tax and insurance on such a small amount anyway. You have to earn around 9k before you have to pay tax.

[Cherie]

It sounds well dodgy, you should not be working for cash unless you are desperate, you need to start showing NI payments, the 15 minute break for that length of time working is a pisstake as well.

[Tom4784]

I don't know for certain but I'm pretty sure one 15 minute break for an eight hour shift is probably breaking some kind of labour laws. At my place that's how long a break you get for a 4 hour shift. When I worked at Tesco a few years back, I'd get an hour and half for a 7 hour shift.

Get your money and leave, it sounds dodgy as hell.

[Josy]

He wouldn't be paying tax and insurance on such a small amount anyway. You have to earn around 9k before you have to pay tax.He still has to be registered in the paye system whether he earns above his personal allowance for tax or not he would still be paying his national insurance/ registering his stamp which needs to be done legally for future pension reasons.

Not declaring employees is illegal.

[Daniel-X]

I'll be leaving ASAP, just need to get a new job first.

[Daniel-X]

I don't know for certain but I'm pretty sure one 15 minute break for an eight hour shift is probably breaking some kind of labour laws. At my place that's how long a break you get for a 4 hour shift. When I worked at Tesco a few years back, I'd get an hour and half for a 7 hour shift.

Get your money and leave, it sounds dodgy as hell.

:bored: it's ridiculous, my boss 'had a word' with me the other week for being twenty minutes rather than fifteen too. I literally have to rush outside, have my cig, make myself some food and grab drink (if I'm having any), go into the store room and by the time I've ate usually it's time for me to go back to out.

[Daniel-X]

They turned up girls, but still looking for another job.

[Northern Monkey]

£4.05 an hour?? Isn't that like... illegal?
Also an 8 hour shift with ONE 15 minute break is trash.
And your wages going missing?

I would quit and find a new job if I were you, especially as you're at college and it's taking up so much of your time.

Yeah this 100%.

[Nicky91]

it wasn't me :joker:

[Northern Monkey]

:bored: it's ridiculous, my boss 'had a word' with me the other week for being twenty minutes rather than fifteen too. I literally have to rush outside, have my cig, make myself some food and grab drink (if I'm having any), go into the store room and by the time I've ate usually it's time for me to go back to out.

Tell your boss to go and **** themself and find a new job

[Daniel-X]

Got a new job this week so handed in my notice today, I’m on a zero hours contract btw so I can refuse any shift/do not have to work a notice period. My boss called me rude, said I had to work next weekend (I explained I couldn’t and reiterated I’m on zero hours), said I was rubbish at my job anyway and I was lucky to get the job in the first place.

Just thought this would be a cute update on how much of a **** my boss was and how much of a joke this business was.

[Daniel-X]

Oh he also said I shouldn’t ask for a reference from them, he won’t give one for me and was lucky that my current employers (Patisserie Valerie) hadn’t asked for one.

[RileyH]

wow, an actual twat

[Tom4784]

I hope you walked out straight after that and didn't return for any shifts and I hope you dragged him for filth in the process.

[Daniel-X]

I was too shocked and upset to say anything (it was as I was ready to leave) I just walked out and got in the car, but my mum was ****ing FUMING she's gonna go and collect my wages on her dinner one day this week and drag him for filth.

[Cal.]

I'll collect your ****ing wages the ****ing knobhead.

[Jordan.]

I was too shocked and upset to say anything (it was as I was ready to leave) I just walked out and got in the car, but my mum was ****ing FUMING she's gonna go and collect my wages on her dinner one day this week and drag him for filth.

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[Greg!]

I was too shocked and upset to say anything (it was as I was ready to leave) I just walked out and got in the car, but my mum was ****ing FUMING she's gonna go and collect my wages on her dinner one day this week and drag him for filth.

:clap1:

[Greg!]

Sounds like a ****, glad you got a new job hon! :love:

[Cal.]

I'm actually ringing his boss later guys stay tuned

[Toy Soldier]

£35 for an 8 hour shift?? Jesus Christ :umm2:. Quit even if you do get it tbh.

[Tom4784]

I was too shocked and upset to say anything (it was as I was ready to leave) I just walked out and got in the car, but my mum was ****ing FUMING she's gonna go and collect my wages on her dinner one day this week and drag him for filth.

END HIM, SUSAN :clap1: (I assume your mother is a Susan tbh)

[Toy Soldier]

He still has to be registered in the paye system whether he earns above his personal allowance for tax or not he would still be paying his national insurance/ registering his stamp which needs to be done legally for future pension reasons.

Not declaring employees is illegal.

All of this is correct also. I reckon your ex-boss is employing cash in hand off the books, report him and see what he has to say then :joker:.

[Will.]

Ugh you’re boss sounds like scum

[Greg!]

I'm actually ringing his boss later guys stay tuned

Omg yas

[UserSince2005]

£35 for 8 hours of work? ****!

[DemolitionRed]

Out of interest, did he get you to go through and sign the health and safety manual? Did he show you and explain to you about COSHH? accident and incident recording? Food handling?

If not, he's breaking the law and needs reporting.

Another thing you can do is write a review. Bad reviews stick like fat to a kitchen ceiling.

[Beso]

Tell them to **** off...your being treated like a slave.

[Beso]

I was too shocked and upset to say anything (it was as I was ready to leave) I just walked out and got in the car, but my mum was ****ing FUMING she's gonna go and collect my wages on her dinner one day this week and drag him for filth.

Report him...say you felt you had to leave...you might get some compo.

[Kizzy]

http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1902

Please learn about your rights, I'm sure this has been a learning curve and this will not happen to you again, but if anyone you know ( friends from this 'employer') need advice then you could help them not continue being exploited. Good luck with the new job, Patisserie Valerie..mmmmmmmm :)

[caprimint]

Wow just read some of this thread, sounds like your boss was a ****. D: I don't know why some managers/supervisors think they can treat their staff like **** and have no respect.

He was clearly just using you as much as he could bc you were on minimum wage, it's good that you got out of there.