Derek the conman

[chuff me dizzy]

Derek nearly had a coronary when Karthick said he wanted a chat with him in the garden about spirits etc ,and no wonder !! I saw him live a few years ago ,he's the biggest conman Ive every seen, he tried him damnedest to make every message fit ,to the point i walked out at the interval and would have walked sooner had i not been sat in the centre seats of the row

[Cal.]

Tell us what it was like chuff please!

[chuff me dizzy]

Tell us what it was like chuff please!

in a word cringeworthy

[Underscore]

I know he's *probably* fraudulent. Such a shame psychics get a bad name from these kind of mediums.

His personality is still good and funny though, which is why he's still one of my favourites.

[chuff me dizzy]

I know he's *probably* fraudulent. Such a shame psychics get a bad name from these kind of mediums.

His personality is still good and funny though, which is why he's still one of my favourites.

I just get flashbacks of him floundering that night ,really can't be doing with him at all

[Niamh.]

Do people actually believe he's real though? :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

Do people actually believe he's real though? :laugh:

oh yes !! the audience were hanging on his every word and even they were trying to make his words fit ,I felt so sorry for some of them he went to, clearly grieving for people and desperate for answers

[Gusto Brunt]

'There's a John in the audience.

Dave then?

Barry?

Susan? Ah, Susan. It's your father who's passed. No? Err, your brother then? No? Well, em, your sister? Oh you don't have a sister. Well I hear a name starting with 'R'...Robert, Ryan, Reg - ah Reg yes, Reg is here. Anyone know a Reg?!' :D

[Niamh.]

oh yes !! the audience were hanging on his every word and even they were trying to make his words fit ,I felt so sorry for some of them he went to, clearly grieving for people and desperate for answers

Yeah people like him who pray on grief stricken vulnerable people are the lowest of the low

[chuff me dizzy]

'There's a John in the audience.

Dave then?

Barry?

Susan? Ah, Susan. It's your father who's passed. No? Err, your brother then? No? Well, em, your sister? Oh you don't have a sister. Well I hear a name starting with 'R'...Robert, Ryan, Reg - ah Reg yes, Reg is here. Anyone know a Reg?!' :D

I will give you one example ........ Im getting the name Robinson (No takers) Robins (No takers) Robertson (no takers ) Did he have a son call Robert (no takers) this went on forever until he dropped it and moved on

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah people like him who pray on grief stricken vulnerable people are the lowest of the low

Its cruel

[Gusto Brunt]

I will give you one example ........ Im getting the name Robinson (No takers) Robins (No takers) Robertson (no takers ) Did he have a son call Robert (no takers) this went on forever until he dropped it and moved on

Who was that other fella who did that game...he died of cancer quite young, 53 or something. Funny how he hasn't been in contact after death...

[chuff me dizzy]

Who was that other fella who did that game...he died of cancer quite young, 53 or something. Funny how he hasn't been in contact after death...

Chuffing hell who was he ? Used to wear massive shoes ? will ask my daughter

[chuff me dizzy]

Who was that other fella who did that game...he died of cancer quite young, 53 or something. Funny how he hasn't been in contact after death...

Colin Fry !

[Gusto Brunt]

Chuffing hell who was he ? Used to wear massive shoes ? will ask my daughter

Very sincere in an insincere way. ;) Had his own show...

[Gusto Brunt]

Colin Fry, yes.

http://i3.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article9924228.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/colin-use.jpg

[chuff me dizzy]

Colin Fry, yes.

http://i3.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article9924228.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/colin-use.jpg

Friends of mine saw Colin live they said he was very good, but then again they thought Derek was too !! I walked out,they stayed :joker:

[Niamh.]

Friends of mine saw Colin live they said he was very good, but then again they thought Derek was too !! I walked out,they stayed :joker:

I think all of those types are conmen tbh

[Gusto Brunt]

Friends of mine saw Colin live they said he was very good, but then again they thought Derek was too !! I walked out,they stayed :joker:

Colin had a good act, but it was just that: an act. :)

[Tom4784]

He's gross.

[AnnieK]

I went to a "show" once with a medium with the girls from work. I was sceptical but everyone said this dude was the real deal....it was rubbish. Although at one point he shouted "who's anne" I literally **** myself....wasnt me though :laugh: biggest load if **** ive ever sat through

[Niamh.]

I went to a "show" once with a medium with the girls from work. I was sceptical but everyone said this dude was the real deal....it was rubbish. Although at one point he shouted "who's anne" I literally **** myself....wasnt me though :laugh: biggest load if **** ive ever sat through

Same as those hypnotists who make people think they're chickens etc. There was one fairly well known one Gavin went to see years ago and while he was at it someone he knew got called on stage and hypnotised, he told Gav after he got paid to do it :laugh:

[Robodog]

I think all of those types are conmen tbh

Some are for sure


Some are def the real deal

[Niamh.]

Some are for sure


Some are def the real deal

hhhmmm I would disagree with you there tbh but each to their own

[Nicky91]

his show most haunted also was for entertainment, i don't give a damn if he's fake or not, i just love watching him on that show, and he shows to be having a bit of fun in the house

:hee:

[Withano]

Some are for sure


Some are def the real deal

Can you name one? I also dont believe it, but I'm interested to see which ones are believed..

[Littlegreen]

I do believe there are some people that can tune into a (not sure you'd call it spiritual?) realm. But most of the genuine ones don't make a career out of it.

[Niamh.]

his show most haunted also was for entertainment, i don't give a damn if he's fake or not, i just love watching him on that show, and he shows to be having a bit of fun in the house

:hee:

I never watched it but if it was just kind of "general ghosts" for lack of a better term that he was claiming to contact then that's harmless enough I suppose. It's the ones that actually pray on genuine grieving people or get personal with a person that bother me

[Paula D]

hhhmmm I would disagree with you there tbh but each to their own

Yeah, I've yet to come across one that I've believed in.

[Nicky91]

I never watched it but if it was just kind of "general ghosts" for lack of a better term that he was claiming to contact then that's harmless enough I suppose. It's the ones that actually pray on genuine grieving people or get personal with a person that bother me

yeah, exactly :)

[Livia]

I believe in life after death, however, I don't believe spirits make house calls.

[Drew.]

You'd be pretty gullible to pay and listen to that stuff, he's the real winner, clever guy

[Kazanne]

I believe in life after death, however, I don't believe spirits make house calls.

This ^

[Beso]

I know he's *probably* fraudulent. Such a shame psychics get a bad name from these kind of mediums.

His personality is still good and funny though, which is why he's still one of my favourites.

The closest this idiot is to being a phsychic is the fact he is a four chin fella.

[T*]

He got caught out numerous times, we've been knew...

[chuff me dizzy]

Over the years I've been to countless so called physics ,ALL conmen or women, then 4 yrs ago I went to one she's blew my mind ,she was spot on with every single thing, gave clear names, dates everything

[bots]

who you gonna call .... ghostbusters ...

[Nicky91]

who you gonna call .... ghostbusters ...

Derek the Ghostbuster :flutter:

[Crimson Dynamo]

There are NO real mediums, there are NO spirits

there is zero scientific evidence save anecdotal

Its not even an argument

There are just those who prey on ignorance and superstition

[chuff me dizzy]

There are NO real mediums, there are NO spirits

there is zero scientific evidence save anecdotal

Its not even an argument

There are just those who prey on ignorance and superstition

I would agree with you if i hadn't gone to see this one medium

[Gusto Brunt]

I went to a "show" once with a medium with the girls from work. I was sceptical but everyone said this dude was the real deal....it was rubbish. Although at one point he shouted "who's anne" I literally **** myself....wasnt me though :laugh: biggest load if **** ive ever sat through

It maybe a load of s***, but all these mediums are rich, packing out whole venues.

[Vanessa]

I don't believe in this kind of stuff. There may be some who are genuine, but I haven't met any.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its not hard to find out stuff about someone and then pretend to "magically" know it

F7pYHN9iC9I

[Vicky.]

I know he's *probably* fraudulent. Such a shame psychics get a bad name from these kind of mediums.

His personality is still good and funny though, which is why he's still one of my favourites.

Its all fraudulent tbh. Some are more convincing than others but its all just bollocks :laugh:

[johne]

Derek nearly had a coronary when Karthick said he wanted a chat with him in the garden about spirits etc ,and no wonder !! I saw him live a few years ago ,he's the biggest conman Ive every seen, he tried him damnedest to make every message fit ,to the point i walked out at the interval and would have walked sooner had i not been sat in the centre seats of the row

Funny that. I saw Derek live in Scunthorpe about ten years ago. He gave very accurate messages to one woman in the audience and I noted that he did this with zero "fishing" and no leading questions, the explanation most sceptics always use to discredit mediums whether it happens or not. I had a chat with this woman when we left the theatre and she was definitely a local rather than an inside plant on Dereks team, because I walked back to where she lived nearby as we chatted.

I can only assume Derek was having an off day when you saw him. I suppose it must be difficult on the day if you fill a theatre and Sam doesn't show up.

[AnnieK]

My cousin goes to see someone on a one to one basis who she says is scarily accurate. She told her something that happened before she was born and rang me to ask and I told her the exact thing the medium had told her. That kind of freaked me out as it was nothing spectacular just family stuff that no one would have known about it cared enough about to remember (I hadn't until she asked me).

[JayGreen]

I dont personally believe in anything supernatural. I personally believe when you die thats it your gone you dont go anywhere or turn into anything. Each to their own though.

[chuff me dizzy]

My cousin goes to see someone on a one to one basis who she says is scarily accurate. She told her something that happened before she was born and rang me to ask and I told her the exact thing the medium had told her. That kind of freaked me out as it was nothing spectacular just family stuff that no one would have known about it cared enough about to remember (I hadn't until she asked me).

The one to one I had was unreal I was sat there in floods of tears she was so accurate

[Crimson Dynamo]

even a broken watch tells the time right twice a day

[chuff me dizzy]

even a broken watch tells the time right twice a day

No ,not in this case she told me minute details about my sister and the awful way she died that you couldn't guess at

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.skepticreport.com/sr/?p=207

good example of how its done and why people say


"there is no way he could have known that" or "he told me exactly what my dream was about"

There is also the same dynamic going on about seeing "ghosts"

Humans like to be interesting and have interesting things to tell people and a story such as "omg this medium told me something amazing" fits the bill for many

[Crimson Dynamo]

No ,not in this case she told me minute details about my sister and the awful way she died that you couldn't guess at

see link above

[Livia]

I've seen Derren Brown tell people stuff he couldn't possibly have known and he'll tell you right up front he's not psychic.

[Paula D]

Funny that. I saw Derek live in Scunthorpe about ten years ago. He gave very accurate messages to one woman in the audience and I noted that he did this with zero "fishing" and no leading questions, the explanation most sceptics always use to discredit mediums whether it happens or not. I had a chat with this woman when we left the theatre and she was definitely a local rather than an inside plant on Dereks team, because I walked back to where she lived nearby as we chatted.

I can only assume Derek was having an off day when you saw him. I suppose it must be difficult on the day if you fill a theatre and Sam doesn't show up.

You're taking the piss are you?

[Crimson Dynamo]

you would think that with the popularity of genealogy now all the mediums would be doing that and making a fortune rather than playing run down theatres to an audience of middle aged ladies


:hehe:


I wonder why they dont employ one on "who do you think you are"?

:think:

[Littlegreen]

There are NO real mediums, there are NO spirits

there is zero scientific evidence save anecdotal

Its not even an argument

There are just those who prey on ignorance and superstition

But then there is no evidence for a god, yet people around the world believe in it.

:shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

But then there is no evidence for a god, yet people around the world believe in it.

:shrug:

Correct

people believe is all sorts of batsh1t stuff like gods (1000s of them)

But that does not make any of them remotely real

[smudgie]

Some people do have the gift.
But the ones that are genuine don't do it for the money or fame. Well the ones I know don't.:shrug:

[johne]

You're taking the piss are you?

I guess you cannot address my points, hence the abuse.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Some people do have the gift.
But the ones that are genuine don't do it for the money or fame. Well the ones I know don't.:shrug:

Yes why would you want to make millions easily if you could or help catch killers and find say missing children..




with the "gift"


:skull:

[Braden]

I've seen Derren Brown tell people stuff he couldn't possibly have known and he'll tell you right up front he's not psychic.

Exactly.

Derren Brown actually centred an episode of one his shows on how 'mediums' and 'psychics' are fake. I think he calls it cold-calling, and there are many strategies people like Derek will use; one of them is constantly saying names and letting the audience react when they hear one that sounds just a little like a deceased person they know, like Chuff and a few others have already pointed out.

It was a good watch. I love Derren Brown.

[Northern Monkey]

It's bollocks.I once went and stayed the night in a sixteenth century pub that featured on Most Haunted.Not a peep.It was quieter than my own house.Stayed up all night too.

[Northern Monkey]

I've seen Derren Brown tell people stuff he couldn't possibly have known and he'll tell you right up front he's not psychic.

He's a clever fella.

[Underscore]

Some people do have the gift.
But the ones that are genuine don't do it for the money or fame. Well the ones I know don't.:shrug:


Exactly. I know a medium (she was my mums best friend) and she was pretty spot on. God rest her soul.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Exactly. I know a medium (she was my mums best friend) and she was pretty spot on. God rest her soul.


Its the same as a magician

you dont know how its done so you think its magic

but of course magic does not exist so its just you dont know how its done

same with "mediums" you just assign not knowing how its done and or luck to she has a gift

but really its only that you dont know how they did it


or look at it this way - either everything we have leaned about science through hundreds of years of painstaking research and peer reviewed endeavour is WRONG

or your mums pal is a fibber


i will have a tenner on the latter

:smug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

and of course the reason people lie like this is to make themselves more important which is a basic human driver like having sex. Some people achieve this through work, a talent like singing, collecting things, being a councillor or just plain fabrication

[ginkgo]

or look at it this way - either everything we have leaned about science through hundreds of years of painstaking research and peer reviewed endeavour is WRONG


everything? no way
science / scientists are figuring out new stuff all the time
300 years ago people probably wouldnt have believed smart phones and wi-fi internet

[Crimson Dynamo]

everything? no way
science / scientists are figuring out new stuff all the time
300 years ago people probably wouldnt have believed smart phones and wi-fi internet

no you misunderstand, everything learned by science to date

the fact that science is ever learning through meticulous testing of proof and evidence and peer-review is why we have wifi and smartphones

[ginkgo]

no you misunderstand, everything learned by science to date

the fact that science is ever learning through meticulous testing of proof and evidence and peer-review is why we have wifi and smartphones
if it took so long to figure those out, what makes you so certain we just don't have the technology to figure other stuff out, modern science afterall is pretty damn new thing

[Crimson Dynamo]

if it took so long to figure those out, what makes you so certain we just don't have the technology to figure other stuff out, modern science afterall is pretty damn new thing

Figure what out?

[ginkgo]

Figure what out?
how to possibly get contact from other dimensions or something like that
im agnostic atheist btw

[Crimson Dynamo]

how to possibly get contact from other dimensions or something like that
im agnostic atheist btw

Their is no evidence for other dimensions nor any evidence that anything other than death exists and when the blood stops pumping the brain dies and with it the person ceases to exist other than as a memory.

Science has already established this:shrug:

[Northern Monkey]

Their is no evidence for other dimensions nor any evidence that anything other than death exists and when the blood stops pumping the brain dies and with it the person ceases to exist other than as a memory.

Science has already established this:shrug:

Or maybe Spacetime is the fourth dimension :pipe:

[bots]

Their is no evidence for other dimensions nor any evidence that anything other than death exists and when the blood stops pumping the brain dies and with it the person ceases to exist other than as a memory.

Science has already established this:shrug:

you need to watch stargate :fist:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Or maybe Spacetime is the fourth dimension :pipe:

indeed but the poster I think was referring to a human one?

[Marsh.]

But then there is no evidence for a god, yet people around the world believe in it.

:shrug:

Except when it comes to mediums, from the very acts they put on publicly there is evidence for them being con artists.

Of course that can't be proof to categorically say the dead cannot be contacted in anyway, just as there's no "proof" that can categorically say there is no God. Just that the vast majority of these showmen are charlatans.

[Marsh.]

Yes why would you want to make millions easily if you could or help catch killers and find say missing children..




with the "gift"


:skull:

How would talking to my dead Granny help to find Maddy McCann? :think:

[Marsh.]

Its the same as a magician

you dont know how its done so you think its magic

but of course magic does not exist so its just you dont know how its done

same with "mediums" you just assign not knowing how its done and or luck to she has a gift

but really its only that you dont know how they did it


or look at it this way - either everything we have leaned about science through hundreds of years of painstaking research and peer reviewed endeavour is WRONG

or your mums pal is a fibber


i will have a tenner on the latter

:smug:

Why does everything we already know and have learned have to be wrong?

That's a rather silly assessment to make.

There is still a vast blank canvas that science hasn't yet discovered/explored or explained so to say anything previously thought to be false actually being true would need to prove all of scientific history wrong is quite absurd.

Science cannot cure cancer at the moment. If in the future that comes about it doesn't mean to say those doctors who couldn't do anything for cancer patients many years ago were "wrong".

[ginkgo]

Their is no evidence for other dimensions nor any evidence that anything other than death exists and when the blood stops pumping the brain dies and with it the person ceases to exist other than as a memory.

Science has already established this:shrug:
no it hasn't? i havent looked on the investigation but science hasn't claim any solid evidence yet: it doesnt mean it wont or there is no possibility it possibly could

[Crimson Dynamo]

no it hasn't? i havent looked on the investigation but science hasn't claim any solid evidence yet: it doesnt mean it wont or there is no possibility it possibly could

It does not need to. If a medium has actual evidence present it and it will be properly tested and analysed.

The fact it's at best a theatre show in run down areas rather tells you all you need know

[Marsh.]

It does not need to. If a medium has actual evidence present it and it will be properly tested and analysed.

The fact it's at best a theatre show in run down areas rather tells you all you need know

That's not the point. You claimed science has proven the existence of such a thing to be false.

It hasn't.

[chuff me dizzy]

Did anyone spot at 35 minutes ,his thumb move the coin last night ? I kept rewinding it, it was hilarious

[Crimson Dynamo]

That's not the point. You claimed science has proven the existence of such a thing to be false.

It hasn't.

What thing?

[sungrass]

I know he's *probably* fraudulent. Such a shame psychics get a bad name from these kind of mediums.

His personality is still good and funny though, which is why he's still one of my favourites.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/most-haunted-exposed-fake-star-833433

[sungrass]

Sprituality is so sacred and a gift that if you had it you would never sell it. Total fraud. look him up - he is really just a theif of peoples money - no pity for him at all x

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/ghosts-brian-cox-large-hadron-collider-cern-real-truth-standard-model-physics-a7598026.html

Ghosts definitely aren't real because the biggest science experiment in the world would have found them by now, according to Brian Cox.

People have wondered for perhaps as long as life itself whether people's spirits can live on in the world once their body dies. But the TV professor says that they definitely don't, since CERN's Large Hadron Collider (LHC) would have stumbled across one.

The LHC is the biggest particle accelerator ever built. It is includes a huge ring of superconducting magnets and accelerators that fling particles around, sending them into each other at such speed that they can be used to understand some of the most fundamental properties of the universe. In doing so, scientists can find out how elementary particles interact and behave, and understand how they work to compose the world that we see around us.

If ghosts existed, then they would need to be made purely of energy, since by their very definition they can't be made of matter. But if they were made only of energy, they would quickly dissipate, because the second law of thermodynamics proposes that energy is always lost to heat.

The only way that they would be able to avoid that would be to have an incoming source of their own spooky energy. But there is nothing to account for that in the standard model of physics or anything we've seen in the particle accelerator.


------


The article pretty much sums up where science is at. People who believe in mediums and ghost naturally have no idea how they may actually work or exist, so in order for them to exist we would need to throw away such things as the large Hadron collider etc

Thus just to be safe its better to assume that Aunty Mabels friend who "has the gift" is probably lying or mistaken and keep the Collider and some basic laws of physics

[bots]

if people genuinely hear others talking to them in their head then they have a mental illness

[waterhog]

his show most haunted also was for entertainment, i don't give a damn if he's fake or not, i just love watching him on that show, and he shows to be having a bit of fun in the house

:hee:

me = and will give him a opportunity - just hope he is not digging.


then again he could leave whats his face to do that - who is his spirit ?

[sungrass]

He devised a plan to see if Derek was deliberately deceiving the public.

While on a shoot at Bodmin gaol he invented a long-dead South African jailer called Kreed Kafer - an anagram of Derek Faker.

"I wrote the name down and asked another member of the crew to mention it to Derek before filming.

"I honestly didn't think Derek would take the bait. But during the filming he actually got possessed by my fictional character!"

On the next shoot at Prideaux Place, Cornwall, Ciaran made up another fictional character, highwayman Rik Eedles - an anagram of Derek Lies. Sure enough, Derek made contact with the dead outlaw.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Scientists also always work on the principle that they could be wrong and they often are which is why a theory - is always just called a theory.

Scientifically minded people make awful conduits and they aren't built to be spiritual - Im fortunate to have experienced spirits with two other people - one a total skeptic. But I dont go on. I know people would for some reason prefer NOT to believe.

They arent made of energy - they have to use Earths energy to come through - they take heat - which is why people feel cold - it takes a huge ammount of Earth energy for them to come through.

aah earth energy, that different thing from energy...

did you read the article? :shrug:

[sungrass]

Can you name one? I also dont believe it, but I'm interested to see which ones are believed..

Monica the medium

[sungrass]

aah earth energy, that different thing from energy...

did you read the article? :shrug:


the article I posted about Derek being fake - er yes.

Yes earth energy as to what we experience - they dont have that energy as are not of earth and if they come here they use the energy around them - in order to present themselves but a huge ammount is needed - its tiring for them to do - you dont half notice them.

[sungrass]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/ghosts-brian-cox-large-hadron-collider-cern-real-truth-standard-model-physics-a7598026.html

Ghosts definitely aren't real because the biggest science experiment in the world would have found them by now, according to Brian Cox.

People have wondered for perhaps as long as life itself whether people's spirits can live on in the world once their body dies. But the TV professor says that they definitely don't, since CERN's Large Hadron Collider (LHC) would have stumbled across one.

The LHC is the biggest particle accelerator ever built. It is includes a huge ring of superconducting magnets and accelerators that fling particles around, sending them into each other at such speed that they can be used to understand some of the most fundamental properties of the universe. In doing so, scientists can find out how elementary particles interact and behave, and understand how they work to compose the world that we see around us.

If ghosts existed, then they would need to be made purely of energy, since by their very definition they can't be made of matter. But if they were made only of energy, they would quickly dissipate, because the second law of thermodynamics proposes that energy is always lost to heat.

The only way that they would be able to avoid that would be to have an incoming source of their own spooky energy. But there is nothing to account for that in the standard model of physics or anything we've seen in the particle accelerator.


------


The article pretty much sums up where science is at. People who believe in mediums and ghost naturally have no idea how they may actually work or exist, so in order for them to exist we would need to throw away such things as the large Hadron collider etc

Thus just to be safe its better to assume that Aunty Mabels friend who "has the gift" is probably lying or mistaken and keep the Collider and some basic laws of physics

heat light gravity magnetism if I recall.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the article I posted about Derek being fake - er yes.

Yes earth energy as to what we experience - they dont have that energy as are not of earth and if they come here they use the energy around them - in order to present themselves but a huge ammount is needed - its tiring for them to do - you dont half notice them.

and your evidence for this is what?

[Marsh.]

What thing?
What thing?

Have you forgotten what was being discussed or purposely being facetious?

Old age is a horrible condition.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nv4pymDRfrs

[Crimson Dynamo]

What thing?

Have you forgotten what was being discussed or purposely being facetious?

Old age is a horrible condition.

answered fully in the post after that one

how are your eyes?

:)

[Livia]

Earth energy is a made-up, all-encompassing term for electro- or geo-magnetic fields. Perfectly natural and nothing to do with ghosts. People who call themselves ghost hunters use these fields and the apparatus that reads those fields, to make-believe they are doing something psychic.

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Monica the medium

oh dear

http://www.badpsychics.com/2015/08/monica-medium-season-1-episode-1.html

http://onwardstate.com/2015/04/08/psychic-mediums-like-monica-ten-kate-are-lying-frauds-a-retraction/

[ethanjames]

people who genuinely believe any of that **** derek is saying has either a very low IQ or are extremely gullible. there has been no proof for it and I don't know why people are still convincing each other this type of **** is real

[Marsh.]

answered fully in the post after that one

how are your eyes?

:)
My eyes are perfect.

"Brian Cox" isn't an answer I'm afraid.

[Crimson Dynamo]

My eyes are perfect.

"Brian Cox" isn't an answer I'm afraid.

What he explained so coherently in the article is however, he summarised it beautifully.

:douf:

[Marsh.]

What he explained so coherently in the article is however, he summarised it beautifully.

:douf:
....because he's backing your point of view.

If it was the other way around he'd be a fraud and a "TV scientist" not a real one. Afterall there's videos of him 'proving' the possibility of Doctor Who's TARDIS.

When really it's all theory, not fact.

[Crimson Dynamo]

....because he's backing your point of view.

If it was the other way around he'd be a fraud and a "TV scientist" not a real one. Afterall there's videos of him 'proving' the possibility of Doctor Who's TARDIS.

When really it's all theory, not fact.

No he is explaining the laws of physics to you, i am afraid its not a point of view. The amazing thing about such things is that they are always being tested by the best minds we have.

You cant decide not to believe in gravity, well you can try but it wont end well

[Marsh.]

No he is explaining the laws of physics to you, i am afraid its not a point of view. The amazing thing about such things is that they are always being tested by the best minds we have.

You cant decide not to believe in gravity, well you can try but it wont end well
Using gravity... a proven scientific fact to try and validate an unrelated scientific theory isn't working pal.

[DanielM787]

I don't think any of the housemates were convinced of him :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Using gravity... a proven scientific fact to try and validate an unrelated scientific theory isn't working pal.

Sorry what is it that you are arguing for/against? That dead people can talk to certain people who have a gift of hearing them in their head?

of are you arguing that scientific theory is flawed?

[sungrass]

Their is no evidence for other dimensions nor any evidence that anything other than death exists and when the blood stops pumping the brain dies and with it the person ceases to exist other than as a memory.

Science has already established this:shrug:


For your perusal, here's a handy pictorial reference to the vast, terrifying vistas of space-time. According to superstring theory, there are at least 10 dimensions in the universe (M-theory actually suggests that there are 11 dimensions to spacetime; bosonic string theories suggest 26 dimensions).16 Dec 2014

[Marsh.]

Sorry what is it that you are arguing for/against? That dead people can talk to certain people who have a gift of hearing them in their head?

of are you arguing that scientific theory is flawed?
I'm telling you that you can't say "science has proven the existence of x, y and z wrong" when it hasn't.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm telling you that you can't say "science has proven the existence of x, y and z wrong" when it hasn't.

if yo are referring to mediums hearing dead people it does not need to, its up to a medium to prove its existance and validity

so far...nowt

so I guess science is still waiting.

and its not like there was no incentive

The One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge was an offer by the James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF) to pay out one million U.S. dollars to anyone who can demonstrate a supernatural or paranormal ability under agreed-upon scientific testing criteria. A version of the challenge was first issued in 1964, and over a thousand people applied to take it, but none were successful.

[Crimson Dynamo]

For your perusal, here's a handy pictorial reference to the vast, terrifying vistas of space-time. According to superstring theory, there are at least 10 dimensions in the universe (M-theory actually suggests that there are 11 dimensions to spacetime; bosonic string theories suggest 26 dimensions).16 Dec 2014

When someone mentions "different dimensions," we tend to think of things like parallel universes – alternate realities that exist parallel to our own, but where things work or happened differently. However, the reality of dimensions and how they play a role in the ordering of our Universe is really quite different from this popular characterization.

Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2014-12-universe-dimensions.html#jCp

and all obey the general laws of physics and actually i was referring to on earth

as for the pyschobillin solution

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[reece(:]

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When will this happen?

[sungrass]

When someone mentions "different dimensions," we tend to think of things like parallel universes – alternate realities that exist parallel to our own, but where things work or happened differently. However, the reality of dimensions and how they play a role in the ordering of our Universe is really quite different from this popular characterization.

Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2014-12-universe-dimensions.html#jCp

and all obey the general laws of physics and actually i was referring to on earth

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thats exactly what those dimension sugguest - not even starting at multi verse theory. I got the name of the guy wrong as well! Hung over - its Simon G Powel not Samuel!!!

psilocybin solution - sorry that is one hard word to remember to spell!!!

His online videos are the best source of imformation esp his old documentaries.

[Marsh.]

if yo are referring to mediums hearing dead people it does not need to, its up to a medium to prove its existance and validity

so far...nowt

so I guess science is still waiting.

and its not like there was no incentive

The One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge was an offer by the James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF) to pay out one million U.S. dollars to anyone who can demonstrate a supernatural or paranormal ability under agreed-upon scientific testing criteria. A version of the challenge was first issued in 1964, and over a thousand people applied to take it, but none were successful.

Where did I say it was down to science to prove mediums wrong? Stop deflecting.

I'm merely correcting you when you're backing your own opinions up with "scientific facts" that are simply "unproven theories".

[Crimson Dynamo]

thats exactly what those dimension sugguest - not even starting at multi verse theory. I got the name of the guy wrong as well! Hung over - its Simon G Powel not Samuel!!!

psilocybin solution - sorry that is one hard word to remember to spell!!!

His online videos are the best source of imformation esp his old documentaries.

Powell graduated from University College London in 1992. From the 1990s onwards he then used psilocybin on over one hundred occasions, as well as similar drugs such as ayahuasca and has documented his experiences.

Yeah I can see why this guy thinks he is seeing spirits!

[muchadoaboutnothing]

'There's a John in the audience.

Dave then?

Barry?

Susan? Ah, Susan. It's your father who's passed. No? Err, your brother then? No? Well, em, your sister? Oh you don't have a sister. Well I hear a name starting with 'R'...Robert, Ryan, Reg - ah Reg yes, Reg is here. Anyone know a Reg?!' :D
LOL - Brilliant:cheer2: