National Trust backtracks on rainbow badge rules

[arista]

Silly Fools
forcing every worker to have a Activist Rainbow Badge on.


It was debated on Ch5HD AM Live
last week saying it was WRONG
to force Every worker
to have that badge on.

I am sure HOG
watched that.


http://news.sky.com/story/national-trust-backtracks-on-rainbow-badge-rules-10975138

[Novo]

Just absolutely insane that they were even thinking about banning people from public facing duties for not wanting to wear one, everyones views have got to be respected

Suppose on a bigger scale its like when the Irish refuse to wear the poppy at events, got to understand its their view and right not to wear one even though I don't like it

[arista]

"everyones views have got to be respected"


It took some newspapers
and Ch5HD AM Live , Ch4HD news live, LBC , R4,R5
SkyNewsHD and BBCnewsHD

[Greg!]

Don't really see the point in the national trust having these badges but if any of their employees refused to wear it they should have been sacked. Could you imagine the uproar if people refused to wear anti-racism badges because it "went against their beliefs"?

[Crimson Dynamo]

great news

horrible to see companies pandering to this stuff to get likes

[Greg!]

great news

horrible to see companies pandering to this stuff to get likes

Pandering to *gasp* gay rights???? The HORROR!

[arista]

Don't really see the point in the national trust having these badges but if any of their employees refused to wear it they should have been sacked. Could you imagine the uproar if people refused to wear anti-racism badges because it "went against their beliefs"?


GREG
it was not that Evil.

It was any that refused
got sent to the Stock room to work
Away from the Public.


Plus there was a Old CEO
who was outed
after Death.
But who CARES as 60 years back
Gays were LOCKED UP in GB
so no way would that CEO
let it out , back then...

[arista]

great news

horrible to see companies pandering to this stuff to get likes


YES LT
well done our Media
correcting the FOOLS

[hijaxers]

This is such crap !

[Northern Monkey]

It's good that they reversed this.
They shouldn't have been able to force this on people.
It's one thing to have rules against homophobia but you can't force people to actively promote a lifestyle that they don't agree with.

[arista]

It's good that they reversed this.
They shouldn't have been able to force this on people.
It's one thing to have rules against homophobia but you can't force people to actively promote a lifestyle that they don't agree with.


Bang On Right NM.

[smudgie]

Good.
First of all most of the workers are volunteers, I am sure they don't sign up to be dictated to.:fist:
At most they should have been told that they would be allowed to wear the badges if they so wished.

[Greg!]

This story and the posts on this thread are an example of how we still have a long way to go with regards to homophobia. There would be outrage if volunteers refused to wear anti-racism or anti-sexism badges, but because the badges are promoting gay rights the press seems to be on their side.

[Greg!]

It's good that they reversed this.
They shouldn't have been able to force this on people.
It's one thing to have rules against homophobia but you can't force people to actively promote a lifestyle that they don't agree with.

Why are you acting like being gay is a choice :sleep:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Pandering to *gasp* gay rights???? The HORROR!

No pandering to causes that they "think" are popular and will get them likes

They should concentrate on running their business well and protecting our heritage and not be distracted by non-related fads like "badges"

[Northern Monkey]

Why are you acting like being gay is a choice :sleep:

I never said that in my post and wouldn't get into a debate on the causes or science behind homosexuality because I don't know enough about it.

All i'm saying is that anyone can do whatever they wish with their private life but nobody can force people to like it and especially to advertise it if it's against their beliefs.Personally i'm a live and let live kind of person.I'm all for gays having rights.

[Crimson Dynamo]

KATIE HOPKINS: The National Trust should take Pride in all its members and volunteers and objecting to using dead people's sexuality as a marketing tool isn't anti-gay, it's just good manners

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/20/article-2281959-1798E99B000005DC-653_634x421.jpg

There is trouble brewing under the ornate plaster ceilings of a Jacobean mansion deep in the heart of sunny Norfolk.

Now firmly in the custodial embrace of the National Trust, this 17th century hall was once the pride and joy of its former owner, historian and poet Robert Wyndham Ketton-Cremer, described by his family as an intensely private man.

He died in 1969 and, according to his relatives, godchildren, and a volunteer at his former home, 'he would turn in his grave to know what is happening now. He was never open about his sexuality'.

The National Trust, however, has decided it is time for him to come clean. Looking for a handy hook on which to hang their Pride and Prejudice marketing campaign, marking 50 years since the decriminalisation of homosexuality, they plumped on Mr Ketton-Cremer. And to really ram the message home, hired the narrative skills of Stephen Fry

Nothing outs someone quite as firmly as a film about their homosexuality narrated by the biggest gay voice in the showbiz village.

The National Trust, not content with this violation of his privacy, have gone the full Kim Jong Un and are demanding the complicity in this undertaking of all 350 staff working at the hall, obliging them to wear the rainbow flag of the gay pride movement on their lanyards.

Compulsory tolerance, mandatory acceptance, and the threat of being removed to back-room duties for non-compliance.

Many are volunteers of long-standing, working proudly to support the memory of Mr Ketton-Cremer and Felbrigg Hall because they love the place and all that it represents.

A determined few are making a stand and refusing to wear the badge.The National Trust is hugely misguided in dabbling in this malevolent identity politics, imagining that discrimination against the LGBT community has occurred merely because someone might disagree with a particular view, or that discrimination against a group of people is real if you fail to wear a badge.

This is utter fallacy.

Women play this game too, imagining gender discrimination has taken place if someone criticise a woman's view. Feminists believe men and women should all be paid precisely the same amount for the same job, despite the fact that output might vary widely and no two people are the same.

For them, an attack on this view is an attack on their gender, and is therefore sexual discrimination, when, in truth, it is just two different views. My opinion is different to yours, that's all. We are not all the same. I'd argue some are more equal than others.

It is time for the National Trust organisation to see sense.

Do what you do, and do it well. Make nice old buildings available to the public, and keep Britain's heritage for all our children to enjoy, regardless of their race, faith or sexuality.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4761990/The-National-Trust-Pride-members.html

[Vicky.]

This story and the posts on this thread are an example of how we still have a long way to go with regards to homophobia. There would be outrage if volunteers refused to wear anti-racism or anti-sexism badges, but because the badges are promoting gay rights the press seems to be on their side.

Fairly sure there wouldn't be.

I don't particularly care what the badges are promoting. I don't think its right to force people to wear them :shrug:

Though I do think its a bit questionable that people felt so strongly against wearing them...its still ultimately their choice.

[arista]

"Though I do think its a bit questionable that people felt so strongly against wearing them...its still ultimately their choice. "

Vicky you are still young
you do not know the history
of these "activists" that are FORCING
themselves on Everyone


and that National Trust
is only doing it to MAKE MORE CASH


Sign Of The Times

[Crimson Dynamo]

This would not happen in the USA Military

[arista]

This would not happen in the USA Military


Bang On Right LT

[Kizzy]

All it really represents is equality, not a support of anyones life choices so where's the issue?

[arista]

All it really represents is equality, not a support of anyones life choices so where's the issue?


Kizzy
that Color badge
is Political Activism

[Tom4784]

If it's part of the dress code then it's part of the dress code. I've worked at places where I've had to wear a poppy for example.

It's a silly thing to kick up a fuss about and LT is right to say that this is pandering, the decision to change the dress code is pandering to a sensitive and bigoted demographic that think they are the centre of the universe and lose their **** when they are told they aren't.

[Tom4784]

Kizzy
that Color badge
is Political Activism

Sexuality isn't a political issue, no matter how many times homophobic people try to make it out that it is.

[arista]

Sexuality isn't a political issue, no matter how many times homophobic people try to make it out that it is.

NO DEZZY those Colors are Activism


Someone had that badge on
and was beaten UP
in Brighton and Hove, East Sussex
Some Time Ago

The Gang of thugs only picked on him
as he had that Rainbow badge on his jacket.

[Northern Monkey]

Sexuality isn't political until....


People use political activism and then it turns political.

[arista]

Sexuality isn't political until....


People use political activism and then it turns political.


For Sure NM.....


I am SICK OF THEM

[Livia]

This story and the posts on this thread are an example of how we still have a long way to go with regards to homophobia. There would be outrage if volunteers refused to wear anti-racism or anti-sexism badges, but because the badges are promoting gay rights the press seems to be on their side.

No one should be made to support something they don't agree with. There's a massive amount of unfairness going on right now where the rights of one group of people are being raised higher than someone else's. While the police allow poppies to be burnt on the streets of this country, while Christians are not allowed to wear crosses in some companies... people are being made to wear a symbol of gay pride, whether they agree with it or not. People have a right to express themselves, no one should be forced to wear a political symbol so the company looks "right on".

[lostalex]

Just absolutely insane that they were even thinking about banning people from public facing duties for not wanting to wear one, everyones views have got to be respected

Suppose on a bigger scale its like when the Irish refuse to wear the poppy at events, got to understand its their view and right not to wear one even though I don't like it

really? so holocaust deniers and racist views, and sexist views have to be respected too? It's no different.

[Livia]

really? so holocaust deniers and racist views, and sexist views have to be respected too? It's no different.

It's very different. You can respect whatever you like... but you can't make someone else wear a badge supporting what you respect.

Hey Alex, haven't seen you for ages.

[Kizzy]

All these symbols are meaningless, as long as they have equality in their mission statement and policy for all then that should be enough.