View Full Version : 10:30PM Ch5HD Celebrity Big Brother Discussion SATURDAY 5/8/17
arista
05-08-2017, 06:14 PM
Saturdays
Viacom wants it on later,
Swearing words Galore
2 footie shows before 10:30PM
JerseyWins
05-08-2017, 06:16 PM
Pumped up for this (but probably won't watch it until later after it airs).
Does CBB also have late entrants into the house like the civilian one?
BBQuest
05-08-2017, 06:19 PM
Pumped up for this (but probably won't watch it until later after it airs).
Does CBB also have late entrants into the house like the civilian one?
Yo dude, yes CBB can have late entries, like for instance we had four late entrees during the last CBB season.
JerseyWins
05-08-2017, 06:29 PM
Cool thanks... not sure how I feel about that. I like how this cast is gelling together so far and would've preferred no late entrees in BB18 either (even though I liked a few of them). Might depend on who they get in there.
Jodie.
05-08-2017, 06:36 PM
The last show I can watch until 2 weeks time :(
Jason.
05-08-2017, 06:44 PM
Pumped up for this (but probably won't watch it until later after it airs).
Does CBB also have late entrants into the house like the civilian one?
Sometimes, although it's much rarer on CBB as the majority of series haven't had any late entrants. It's become more of a recent thing since the producers have sort of become hellbent on trying to cram as many people in the house as possible.
BBUK-Fan
05-08-2017, 07:55 PM
2017 is the year of too many housemates per series.
CBB19- 18 housemates
BB18- 22 housemates
CBB20- 18 housemates?
hijaxers
05-08-2017, 08:19 PM
Well lets hope tonight's discussion leaves 'cum' out of it !
hijaxers
05-08-2017, 08:48 PM
Just realised 10.30 start - bored i'll watch early tomorrow
LukeB
05-08-2017, 08:49 PM
why is it on so late?
****ball taking priority like ****casino
Locke.
05-08-2017, 09:28 PM
Can't wait until they finally air that Patrick Swayze documentary and the first episode of Make or Break so that I can stop watching the exact same ads 750 times over
arista
05-08-2017, 09:32 PM
On Ch5 and Ch5HD NOW
DAY 4
Headie
05-08-2017, 09:34 PM
why is it on so late?
Usain Bolt did that?
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 09:35 PM
Danan pulling a Jackiey Budden?
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 09:35 PM
Welp Paul flies into a rage
lewis111
05-08-2017, 09:36 PM
Can't wait until they finally air that Patrick Swayze documentary and the first episode of Make or Break so that I can stop watching the exact same ads 750 times over
Omg I know the Make or Break ones have been on for months
LukeB
05-08-2017, 09:36 PM
will they live off basic rations though?
Glenn-C
05-08-2017, 09:36 PM
Shook at an actual punishment
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 09:37 PM
Trisha looks like a Komodo Dragon
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 09:37 PM
Wow at such a big punishment when Tom continually broke this rule and got 30 minutes in jail
LukeB
05-08-2017, 09:37 PM
Wow at such a big punishment when Tom continually broke this rule and got 30 minutes in jail
And spoke in code which he wasn't punished for.
RileyH
05-08-2017, 09:37 PM
Danan pulling a Jackiey Budden?
welp
will they live off basic rations though?
And alcohol
#basicrationsforabasicbitch
RileyH
05-08-2017, 09:38 PM
I'm kinda liking Chad now for some reason
Ameila Lily becoming the series villain is kind of iconic
-Marlon pervs on Sabdi, Helen and Jemma in the distance-
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 09:39 PM
I love how Brandi doesn't give two ****s if she offends Chad :laugh:
RileyH
05-08-2017, 09:39 PM
arse to grass
Look her in the face Sam you CONNIVING BITCH!!
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 09:40 PM
Don't pander to it Sam
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 09:40 PM
What is Trisha wearing?
Trisha serving Farrah teas but I'm enjoying her?
RileyH
05-08-2017, 09:41 PM
why is Paul involved all of a sudden
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 09:41 PM
Bully
:laugh2:
Are they only allowed to show Jordan, Sam, Amelia and Chad?
LukeB
05-08-2017, 09:42 PM
why is Paul involved all of a sudden
I hope he doesn't do that all the time, Lotan did that and it got annoying everytime
Are they only allowed to show Jordan, Sam, Amelia and Chad?
(With the occasional Sarah Harding sob in the DR?)
Glenn-C
05-08-2017, 09:42 PM
NOT a bloody showmance already
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 09:42 PM
why is Paul involved all of a sudden
If there is a chance at screen time he will be involved as much as he possibly can
BBUK-Fan
05-08-2017, 09:43 PM
Helen Lederer doing the squats proves she should win the show!
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 09:43 PM
When will sarah do her nightly moan?
BBUK-Fan
05-08-2017, 09:44 PM
Really dislike Sam and Jordan.
I hope he doesn't do that all the time, Lotan did that and it got annoying everytime
Sandra to enter and drop in "role model to ya career tho?", resulting in Fight Night 5 and Paul's ejection?
LukeB
05-08-2017, 09:45 PM
Sandra to enter and drop in "role model to ya career tho?", resulting in Fight Night 5 and Paul's ejection?
:skull:
BBUK-Fan
05-08-2017, 09:45 PM
Think we need to throw Kim Woodburn in to have a go at Sam and Jordan.
"Gang handed."
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 09:47 PM
When will sarah do her nightly moan?
When you enter her in your dreams
Sam looks like he's from a gay porno
Glenn-C
05-08-2017, 09:47 PM
Chad put a bloody top on the girls aren't paying attention to you
RileyH
05-08-2017, 09:48 PM
Think we need to throw Kim Woodburn in to have a go at Sam and Jordan.
"Gang handed."
they need to make this happen :joker:
When did Sam paint his nails blue
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 09:48 PM
I feel a little sorry for Sam, he has said sorry and clearly feels bad.
RileyH
05-08-2017, 09:48 PM
Sam looks like he's from a gay porno
Top or Bottom?
Top or Bottom?
Hmm bottom straight guy who gets seduced by his gay postman
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 09:49 PM
When you enter her in your dreams
Well I'm not sure how as I will have duct taped her mouth and nose? :shrug:
BBUK-Fan
05-08-2017, 09:49 PM
they need to make this happen :joker:
Kim to get everybody's names wrong like Nicole
LukeB
05-08-2017, 09:49 PM
Hmm bottom straight guy who gets seduced by his gay postman
:joker:
RileyH
05-08-2017, 09:50 PM
Hmm bottom straight guy who gets seduced by his gay postman
sounds about right
Owen19
05-08-2017, 09:50 PM
Well those basic rations lasted long!
Glenn-C
05-08-2017, 09:50 PM
Kim to get everybody's names wrong like Nicole
Not Kim dragging Chaz
LukeB
05-08-2017, 09:50 PM
Get your revenge Marissa
Marissa just Janine'd Shaun x
Push him off a cliff trish!!!
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 09:51 PM
Barry is a woman hater?
Headie
05-08-2017, 09:51 PM
Shaun only picking American girls
Owen19
05-08-2017, 09:51 PM
Barry hates the American women!
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 09:52 PM
Yes Shaun bury that basic bloater
RileyH
05-08-2017, 09:52 PM
should have smashed his picture x
LukeB
05-08-2017, 09:52 PM
Shaun only picking American girls
For the same reason because he doesn't know them? (cop out imo)
Headie
05-08-2017, 09:52 PM
Racist
How can people defend Sam after this?!?!
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 09:52 PM
Barry hates the American women!
No wonder
RileyH
05-08-2017, 09:52 PM
Brandi looks pissed af
Headie
05-08-2017, 09:53 PM
Why is Jordan still in
BBUK-Fan
05-08-2017, 09:53 PM
Trisha should have smashed Sam's picture and then go for Jordan!
Erm if someone put me in the losers club just to get to know me I would fume selfish cow
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 09:53 PM
Karsick can GO for picking on Brandi
Greg!
05-08-2017, 09:53 PM
Brandi babes just say you hate him
Brandi and Chad's UTR feud is a scream
Wait Chad is a major cub and would top Sam
Sam looks like he's from a gay porno
mmm ;)
Glenn-C
05-08-2017, 09:54 PM
Here for Brandi dragging Chad any chance she gets
Wait Chad is a major cub and would top Sam
hot
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 09:54 PM
**** off Sandi you kiss arse
'Don't you DARE choose me'
Lmfao Jemma
Glenn-C
05-08-2017, 09:55 PM
Sandi cancelled for liking Jordan
Why do we grt cutaways to Paul's random comments
Greg!
05-08-2017, 09:55 PM
Does Amelia remind anyone else of Elleh
Jemma's about to rag her around the task room by ha hair
RileyH
05-08-2017, 09:55 PM
Amelia's ageist :skull:
BBUK-Fan
05-08-2017, 09:55 PM
It's like picking who shouldn't be in the football team
Does Amelia remind anyone else of Elleh
Ded normal meh saven the oldens
Brother Leon
05-08-2017, 09:56 PM
Does Amelia remind anyone else of Elleh
Not really. She's the spitting image of an ex that cheated on me though so that is a little unsettling :laugh:
"Slummin it" just because Karthik's there YOU RACIST BITCH!!
Amelia reminds me of that girl who turns into a slag after one drink
Headie
05-08-2017, 09:57 PM
Wait so they're all immune? Thought it was just one
LukeB
05-08-2017, 09:57 PM
So the basic rations is for the task then?
Greg!
05-08-2017, 09:57 PM
What was the point of those 5 seconds of music :umm2:
Greg!
05-08-2017, 09:57 PM
I HATE the editing on this show so much omg
RileyH
05-08-2017, 09:57 PM
Amelia reminds me of that girl who turns into a slag after one drink
doesn't even need a drink
This is giving me Cult of Celebrity CBB12 teas but I dont see any similarities
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 09:58 PM
Amelia reminds me of that girl who turns into a slag after one drink
Me :flutter:
As usual the immunity goes to people who wouldn't have left anyway
Owen19
05-08-2017, 09:59 PM
I don't see the point of this immunity twist unless Marissa was eligible because she's probably going whoever she's up against
I'd gladly be evicted if it means I could kiss Karthik :flutter:
'All my boyfriends are assholes and gay'
Lmao poor Sam
As usual the immunity goes to people who wouldn't have left anyway
Lotan, Kieran and Raph getting immunity teas
arista
05-08-2017, 10:00 PM
Amelia's ageist :skull:
I do not blame her
as the Rotten DOGS she has suffered,
LukeB
05-08-2017, 10:00 PM
I'd gladly be evicted if it means I could kiss Karthik :flutter:
you want to kiss something else too.
UHM didnt Ricky Norwood predict a Shaun and Trisha showmance
you want to kiss something else too.
... up to you?
BBUK-Fan
05-08-2017, 10:01 PM
UHM didnt Ricky Norwood predict a Shaun and Trisha showmance
Karthik and Trisha
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:01 PM
'I don't think we have anything in common except STDs'
Trisha went THERE
DouglasS
05-08-2017, 10:01 PM
Mess at Trish fancying Barry
LukeB
05-08-2017, 10:01 PM
... up to you?
I don't think there's any body part you wouldn't kiss, Karthick is in for a treat when you meet.
Karthik and Trisha
Oh yeah I forgot because Karthik's mine and I forget that no one else will ever get him (but Dominic can share him with me x)
I don't think there's any body part you wouldn't kiss, Karthick is in for a treat when you meet.
"When"
:flutter:
I met Biannca from Apprentice 2014, do you think she'd recognise me if I met her again and would she give me contact to Karthik?
LukeB
05-08-2017, 10:03 PM
I met Biannca from Apprentice 2014, do you think she'd recognise me if I met her again and would she give me contact to Karthik?
Yes imo
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 10:04 PM
Steven and Kim 'open it'
Chanelle and Jake 'put it in'
Trisha and Barry 'fist me hard'
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 10:04 PM
The young get together and talk sex. The selfish gene dominates the edit.
:clap1:
Evolution at work
BBUK-Fan
05-08-2017, 10:04 PM
I met Biannca from Apprentice 2014, do you think she'd recognise me if I met her again and would she give me contact to Karthik?
Why would she give contact? She was 2014 and Karthik was 2016.
Yes imo
Ugh he lives in Northampton I need to ride a train before I can ride his dick :(
BBUK-Fan
05-08-2017, 10:05 PM
Do they all just talk about sex and snogging? What boring lives.
Favourite conversation so far is Shaun and Helen discussing quiz shows
LukeB
05-08-2017, 10:05 PM
Ugh he lives in Northampton I need to ride a train before I can ride his dick :(
Wouldn't it be worth every penny?
Why would she give contact? She was 2014 and Karthik was 2016.
HUN I KNOW MY KARTHIK FACTS. She just might, Karthik might be like BB16 Danny, hot, sexy, and knows pretty much everyone from their previous and future series
Wouldn't it be worth every penny?
Yes but wpuld it be worth the time it takes to travel? I only last 2 minutes :(
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:07 PM
teeny weeny girl :skull:
Glenn-C
05-08-2017, 10:07 PM
Is Chad allergic to clothes
LukeB
05-08-2017, 10:07 PM
Yes but wpuld it be worth the time it takes to travel? I only last 2 minutes :(
Yes for Karthick! one of a kind
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:07 PM
Yes but wpuld it be worth the time it takes to travel? I only last 2 minutes :(
that it? :(
Get back to the bottom of the cliff, Barry
that it? :(
Well less, I'm rounding up
I hope Amelia embarrasses him.in front of all 500k viewers
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 10:09 PM
Amelia has been such a let down so far
Yes for Karthick! one of a kind
He really is :love:
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 10:10 PM
Shaun patronising tubby
LukeB
05-08-2017, 10:10 PM
He really is :love:
I know who you are voting for on the sexiest male award when i do CBB20 awards
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:12 PM
'what's his name?' :skull:
I know who you are voting for on the sexiest male award when i do CBB20 awards
:blush:
DouglasS
05-08-2017, 10:12 PM
Amelia is the new Noirin
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:12 PM
Well less, I'm rounding up
optimistic :)
Does anyone actually care?
Amelia and Sam will get together and then they'll send Amelia and Chad to some 'suite' BOOKMARK ME
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:14 PM
Jemma looking jealous
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 10:14 PM
Trisha looks so bad
Owen19
05-08-2017, 10:14 PM
This episode is really boring tbh
Glenn-C
05-08-2017, 10:14 PM
Trisha looks great :love:
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:15 PM
Jaman :skull: kmn
LukeB
05-08-2017, 10:15 PM
This episode is really boring tbh
I agree.
Glenn-C
05-08-2017, 10:15 PM
I'm Derek
jennyfromtheblock8
05-08-2017, 10:15 PM
Derek looks like he has seen a ghost
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 10:15 PM
Sandi is one of the worst housemates this year.
Derek looks like he has seen a ghost
Jade Goody flashed Karthik in the background?
arista
05-08-2017, 10:16 PM
Trisha looks so bad
yes are they real Lips
LT?
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:17 PM
Marissa giving Jordan a reality check
Marissa silencing Jordan :love:
Take A HINT JORDAN!!!
LukeB
05-08-2017, 10:17 PM
"basic rations" they got alcohol interesting.
Greg!
05-08-2017, 10:17 PM
Omg I could not be less interested in this
A Mob Wife drinking a Strongbow Dark Fruit is hilarious to me
DouglasS
05-08-2017, 10:18 PM
Mess at this turning into Love Island
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:18 PM
bitch make up your mind
Glenn-C
05-08-2017, 10:18 PM
Oh god is there still 12 more minutes of this
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:19 PM
Mess at this turning into Love Island
They'll be coupling up with each other next week
This series is SOOO boring and they clearly planned for it to be Love Island 2.0 after they could only get 2 people in BB18 interested in each other
Greg!
05-08-2017, 10:19 PM
Chad makes my skin CRAWL
Owen19
05-08-2017, 10:19 PM
Can Amelia STOP encouraging it
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 10:19 PM
Amelia and Chad is so sweet
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:19 PM
Amelia: Graft
Chad: You making up words?
Me: :skull: :skull:
Greg!
05-08-2017, 10:20 PM
Chad makes my skin CRAWL
Actually no he doesn't I'm just trying to find some sort of emotion within myself for this episode. I'm SO indifferent to this series it's just so boring
Marissa and Jordan to become an item and Trisha to cause Fight Night 5 by saying "role model to ya stepson tho?" To Jordan??
LukeB
05-08-2017, 10:20 PM
whats the point with the adverts when there is 10 mins left?
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 10:20 PM
Chad makes my skin CRAWL
OK chuff
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:21 PM
the streams down rn :skull:
Just send Kim, Tiff and Farrah in please to shake it up
the streams down rn :skull:
Tvguide it is
jennyfromtheblock8
05-08-2017, 10:22 PM
Amelia and Chad is so sweet
She is sweet he is just a creepy werewolf man
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 10:22 PM
Oh Brandi your thirst betrayed your face
And your vagina
Cherie
05-08-2017, 10:22 PM
This is dire
WHY IS THIS GIRL allowed to just have her parrot flying around outside. That's how they go missing
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:22 PM
Tvguide it is
great minds think alike ;)
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 10:23 PM
She is sweet he is just a creepy werewolf man
Not the attractive hetro getting the Tibb hate
:laugh2:
Cherie
05-08-2017, 10:23 PM
Amelia and Chad are embarrassing themselves
Glenn-C
05-08-2017, 10:23 PM
This series is literally so boring can we kick them all out and just put Sukhvinder in the house for a month?
great minds think alike ;)
It's a shame its a minute or 2 behind :(
Glenn-C
05-08-2017, 10:24 PM
:skull:
LukeB
05-08-2017, 10:25 PM
This series is literally so boring can we kick them all out and just put Sukhvinder in the house for a month?
Put a bread bag in there and she will be off.
Greg!
05-08-2017, 10:25 PM
Mess at this
Oh sorry Paul from Celebrity Love Island babes!
"What do you want?"
"Karthik"
M e
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:26 PM
"What do you want?"
"Karthik"
M e
:joker:
Greg!
05-08-2017, 10:26 PM
zbzbzv trish thinking she's on YouTube
LukeB
05-08-2017, 10:26 PM
I wish i can talk quick like that
Glenn-C
05-08-2017, 10:26 PM
Lilbro to fume at Paul?
How is Karthik being aggressive at all? Oh it's because he's not white...
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 10:26 PM
Trisha the hypocrite trying to drag people for attention seeking a few hours after flashing her tits...hmm
Lilbro to fume at Paul?
eject the racist bitch!
LukeB
05-08-2017, 10:27 PM
Lukatar
is this my new name?
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:27 PM
eject the racist bitch!
PREACH
Owen19
05-08-2017, 10:27 PM
Can Sandi not try and calm the situation because that was the only thing worth watching in this episode
Braden
05-08-2017, 10:27 PM
The Racism Row still leaves everyone shaken to this day :p
Greg!
05-08-2017, 10:27 PM
Tbh this series could do with a good race row to boost the ratings!
Glenn-C
05-08-2017, 10:28 PM
Jade Goody's ghost loving this?
Greg!
05-08-2017, 10:28 PM
Mess my last post sounds bad
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:28 PM
'I've been called dangerous'
what the actual f u c k :skull: :skull:
Go piss yourself Dangerous Danan!
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 10:28 PM
Is it actually considered racist to mispronounce someones name?
Brother Leon
05-08-2017, 10:28 PM
I love how Qatar is basically an airlines and not a country to him :laugh:
Glenn-C
05-08-2017, 10:29 PM
NOT Shilpagate 2
BBUK-Fan
05-08-2017, 10:29 PM
Why? Karthik and Paul arguing
Is it actually considered racist to mispronounce someones name?
Shipla teas
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:29 PM
Is it actually considered racist to mispronounce someones name?
it is when it's purposeful
jennyfromtheblock8
05-08-2017, 10:29 PM
Paul is the most mental one in that house
LukeB
05-08-2017, 10:29 PM
Trisha stopping this showmance from happening?
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:29 PM
Shipla teas
Shilpa Poppadom is fuming
arista
05-08-2017, 10:29 PM
This series is SOOO boring and they clearly planned for it to be Love Island 2.0 after they could only get 2 people in BB18 interested in each other
WRONG Cal
new tasks to come
Sure ITV2HD LI
is mega.
BUT not on while we watch CBB
arista
05-08-2017, 10:30 PM
Why? Karthik and Paul arguing
Paul --- DRUNK?
Shilpa Poppadom is fuming
:joker: oop
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 10:31 PM
I am so shipping Chad and A-lil
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 10:31 PM
it is when it's purposeful
Half of tibb being racist for misspelling Lateysha. Can i report old posts?
I want LT perma banned for racism!
RileyH
05-08-2017, 10:31 PM
:joker: oop
:hehe:
Littlegreen
05-08-2017, 10:31 PM
Trisha insinuating Sarah is a slut while she is literally behind her.
I love how Trisha almost said "yes you are" :skull:
Greg!
05-08-2017, 10:31 PM
Was Sarah crying in the diary room in this episode?? I can't remember it
arista
05-08-2017, 10:32 PM
RACIST CARD
is upsetting Drunk Paul
Smash something up piss head
LukeB
05-08-2017, 10:32 PM
Half of tibb being racist for misspelling Lateysha. Can i report old posts?
I want LT perma banned for racism!
And Raph is half Japanese and LT misspelled his name too?
Half of tibb being racist for misspelling Lateysha. Can i report old posts?
I want LT perma banned for racism!
Who doesnt?
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 10:33 PM
Half of tibb being racist for misspelling Lateysha. Can i report old posts?
I want LT perma banned for racism!
:oh:
I like sanday and Melissa
Both the black ones
,:hmph:
arista
05-08-2017, 10:33 PM
Half of tibb being racist for misspelling Lateysha. Can i report old posts?
I want LT perma banned for racism!
How Dare you say that
LT is a Great Member
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2017, 10:35 PM
How Dare you say that
LT is a Great Member
Drag ha Arista
Amy Jade
05-08-2017, 10:37 PM
And Raph is half Japanese and LT misspelled his name too?
http://imageslogotv-a.akamaihd.net//uri/mgid:file:http:shared:newnownext.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/tumblr_nkp82h2lnm1ql5yr7o1_500.gif
arista
05-08-2017, 10:40 PM
Drag ha Arista
Miss understanding
I am sure
all is Good on tibb
arista
05-08-2017, 10:41 PM
And Raph is half Japanese and LT misspelled his name too?
How Nice LukeeeeB
lewis111
06-08-2017, 09:43 AM
Just watched tbis episode on catch up and god this bunch are boring af
I'd honestly just prefer what the first 2 days were like not all tbis will they won't they showmance mess
Doesn't look like its gonna be a strong series
lewis111
06-08-2017, 09:44 AM
And the airtime distribution is awful
About 70-80% of the show is just Sam, Jordan, Paul, Trish and Chad
Vanessa
06-08-2017, 12:18 PM
I'll catch up later. Missed the episode, because it was on too late. I want to see Paul :love:
Jase.
06-08-2017, 02:01 PM
Jesus ****ing Christ, this episode was absolutely brutal. Outside of Trisha being iconic, it's just FULL of showmance crap.
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