BB speaks to Paul after "racist" gate

[Jake.]

Big Brother has spoken to Paul Danan following his 'race row' with Karthik Nagesan.


The pair clashed on Celebrity Big Brother 2017 over the weekend after Paul pronounced Karthik's name wrong, leading to an argument over supposed racism.



In tonight's show, Karthik and Paul clear up any issues surrounding the comments about racism in the house. Karthik tells Paul; “Reset. I said a few things. You said a few things. Now we are, reset.”

Paul responds saying, “I apologise for getting worked up.”

After, Big Brother invites Paul into the Diary Room and says: "Paul, Big Brother just wanted to call you in regarding your ongoing conversations with Karthik. During your conversation, Karthik misheard you and thought you had said Qatar."

"I didn't, I said Kartha," Paul insists.

Big Brother continues: "With that in mind, it's understandable that Karthik may have thought you were potentially using racist language as it's the name of a Middle Eastern airline and could therefore be seen as demeaning and inappropriate. Can you see it from his side?"



"Absolutely I can, and I completely understand," Paul replies. "If people say Danan wrong and I'm not even going to say the way people can say it but there's a certain thing, I think Sam said it once... don't call me, please don't call me that. It brings up stuff from my school or whatever where people have got it wrong and it really grates on me.

"So I completely get him and I really understand. I know how it feels. It was the last thing in the world I would want him to think. Now it makes sense and I feel a bit s**t about it actually. I think that's going to be very clear and it will not be repeated.

Elsewhere in tonight's show, Karthik is put up for the first eviction of the series.

It’s the third and final day of the weekend's nominations task. Paul, Helen, Amelia, Shaun, Derek, Brandi and Sam are VIP members of the Big Brother Club. They are immune from eviction. The remaining housemates, known as the ‘riff raff’, must continue to wait on them hand and foot.

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To conclude the task, Big Brother gathers the VIP’s to the private members club. The ‘riff raff’ secretly watch from the living room. The VIP’s must then shred three more housemate memberships - putting them up for evictiion - and explain why.

The first person up for eviction is Karthik. Brandi says; “I find him disrespectful, and I honestly don’t like him.”



Sam supports this comment, saying; “On personality alone I vote K, obviously. Because he’s a bit of a d*ck.”

Celebrity Big Brother airs tonight at 9PM on Channel 5.

[chuff me dizzy]

Welcome to PC gone made Britain :bored:

[Oaker]

Welcome to PC gone made Britain :bored:

:bored:

[Marsh.]

Welcome to PC gone made Britain :bored:

Yeah ignorance and racism is PC, sure thing Muff.

[Greg!]

Mess. They kind of take the piss with warnings now.

[Epic.]

I'm guessing they did this because of the many mispronounciations of Shilpa's name in the past

[Greg!]

Also screaming at BB saying "it's a middle eastern airline" and just ignoring the fact it's a country as well :skull:

[Crimson Dynamo]

So mispronouncing his name as an airline from the middle east is racist?

oh wait, BB thinks both are brown people things?

:facepalm:

[reece(:]

Also screaming at BB saying "it's a middle eastern airline" and just ignoring the fact it's a country as well :skull:

a MESS.

[Marsh.]

Why are people missing the obvious?

He didn't accidentally mispronounce his name or get it wrong AT ALL. He PURPOSELY called him random "foreign" words to take the piss. He admitted this.

So it's a thin line and only a matter of time before he hit a "Shilpa Poppadom" type slip up.

[Headie]

Ugh Paul's gonna win now with all the bag ladies complaining BB are setting him up etc. :rolleyes:

[bots]

next ...cockney rhyming slang to be outlawed?

[Marsh.]

next ...cockney rhyming slang to be outlawed?

On what planet does Qatar rhyme with or have anything to do with Karthik?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why are people missing the obvious?

He didn't accidentally mispronounce his name or get it wrong AT ALL. He PURPOSELY called him random "foreign" words to take the piss. He admitted this.

So it's a thin line and only a matter of time before he hit a "Shilpa Poppadom" type slip up.
I think that was blown way out of proportion too as it goess

[Marsh.]

I think that was blown way out of proportion too as it goess

Well, not really.

If it was an isolated incident, maybe, but it was 1 incident in a very very long list of racial bullying. So, no it wasn't.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ugh Paul's gonna win now with all the bag ladies complaining BB are setting him up etc. :rolleyes:

lets not open up Cat-Ladygate again

:omgno:

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[Vanessa]

Paul said Kartha, not Qatar. It's not the same thing. He wasn't being racist at all. And he wasn't the only one who mispronounced his name. But I guess the others are not Paul, so no warning needed for them.

[Barry.]

lets not open up Cat-Ladygate again

:omgno:

https://media.tenor.com/images/4c95fe53f6662ed6318da7658ccf581b/tenor.gif

Me :joker:.

[chuff me dizzy]

I think that was blown way out of proportion too as it goess

Of course its blown out of all proportion

[chuff me dizzy]

lets not open up Cat-Ladygate again

:omgno:

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No,not since warnings were given out by mods that its not allowed on here

[Ashley.]

Don't think a warning was required just because some idiot couldn't tell the difference between "Kartha" and "Qatar" despite Paul explaining himself several times.

[T*]

Also screaming at BB saying "it's a middle eastern airline" and just ignoring the fact it's a country as well :skull:

This is exactly what I was thinking :skull:

[Withano]

About time he saw it from someone elses perspective, Christ, what took him so long. What a self-centric imbecile.

[chuff me dizzy]

Karthik dropped the race card to get Paul into bother and to draw attention to himself, lets hope he goes this week, then he wont get the chance to drop it again

[Vanessa]

I'm voting to save Marissa. She can't go Iver that twat Karthik. :fist:

[Vanessa]

Don't think a warning was required just because some idiot couldn't tell the difference between "Kartha" and "Qatar" despite Paul explaining himself several times.

This! He didn't say quatar, he said Kartha. Not the same thing. This warning is ridiculous!

[Jason.]

next ...cockney rhyming slang to be outlawed?

NOT tacky...nappy. Strap-on

[Marsh.]

Paul said Kartha, not Qatar. It's not the same thing. He wasn't being racist at all. And he wasn't the only one who mispronounced his name. But I guess the others are not Paul, so no warning needed for them.
He didn't mispronounce it.

He purposely called him Qatar in a lame attempt at humour.

[Vanessa]

He didn't mispronounce it.

He purposely called him Qatar in a lame attempt at humour.

He never said quatar. And he wasn't the only one to mispronounce his name. Sam did as well.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This! He didn't say quatar, he said Kartha. Not the same thing. This warning is ridiculous!

this

[ClaireS92]

For Paul and anyone else who comes out with " racist" garbage; it s really quite simple. There is only one race and that is the Human Race. All other so called racial divisions are all artificial illusions because the whole Modern Human Race came from the same rift in Eastern Africa .

The different colours of skin and slight changes in skull shape (the only other real difference) are because that initial tribe which we are all related to and descended from.My favourite thing to tease and put down real racists is to tell them that even their ancestors were initially black because of it.I know that ll make them squirm.The Rea Racists I mean and you have to use shock tactics to get stupid people like them to listen

and start to think sometimes.But after that intitial tribe moved out from the rift in Eastern Africa those different split away groups from the initial tribe all settled in different parts of the globe for long periods where there is more direct sunlight than in other parts of the world and through pigmentation of the skin to protect them from the radiation of the ultra violet rays of the sun some peoples skin evolved darker than others depending on how much direct sunlight their particular split away group from the initial one in that rift had to cope with in the part of the world they settled in.

The other main slight dif is the change in skull shape which is because of settling for long periods in those other parts of the world too.Our DNA is 99 probably 99.99999% the same the world wide.Also missed by these idiots are that the richest at the top use these noticeable slight differences to encourage this false idea of race to divide us so it is easier for them to get richer and richer off us all simple things if only they had enough working brain connections to think them through and started to think it through so they d never accept any idea about different races within the one same human race .

[Kazanne]

For Paul and anyone else who comes out with " racist" garbage; it s really quite simple. There is only one race and that is the Human Race. All other so called racial divisions are all artificial illusions because the whole Modern Human Race came from the same rift in Eastern Africa .

The different colours of skin and slight changes in skull shape (the only other real difference) are because that initial tribe which we are all related to and descended from.My favourite thing to tease and put down real racists is to tell them that even their ancestors were initially black because of it.I know that ll make them squirm.The Rea Racists I mean and you have to use shock tactics to get stupid people like them to listen

and start to think sometimes.But after that intitial tribe moved out from the rift in Eastern Africa those different split away groups from the initial tribe all settled in different parts of the globe for long periods where there is more direct sunlight than in other parts of the world and through pigmentation of the skin to protect them from the radiation of the ultra violet rays of the sun some peoples skin evolved darker than others depending on how much direct sunlight their particular split away group from the initial one in that rift had to cope with in the part of the world they settled in.

The other main slight dif is the change in skull shape which is because of settling for long periods in those other parts of the world too.Our DNA is 99 probably 99.99999% the same the world wide.Also missed by these idiots are that the richest at the top use these noticeable slight differences to encourage this false idea of race to divide us so it is easier for them to get richer and richer off us all simple things if only they had enough working brain connections to think them through and started to think it through so they d never accept any idea about different races within the one same human race .

Well that's a conversation stopper :laugh:

[Spoon]

It's not that hard to make an effort to pronounce everyone's name correctly. When the only name it's "funny" to mispronounce in a variety of different ways is a POC and/or someone born in another country, it doesn't seem random.

[Marsh.]

Oh look guys, you can throw racist slurs at black people because we all came from the same rift in Eastern Africa anyway.

That makes it ok guys. :thumbs:

[Mystic Mock]

I'd have left Paul to his natural behaviour tbh and let the public decide what they thought of him.

[Marsh.]

It's not that hard to make an effort to pronounce everyone's name correctly. When the only name it's "funny" to mispronounce in a variety of different ways is a POC and/or someone born in another country, it doesn't seem random.

Exactly. It's always the "foreign" sounding names and words.

If it was written down and someone struggled to pronounce it I'd understand, but Karthik is telling them what his name is. It's not difficult to say it exactly as he does.

People would soon be slagging Karthik off if he acted dumb and pretended he didn't know how Marissa was pronounced.

It's pathetic children like Danan masquerading as a "comedian".

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's not that hard to make an effort to pronounce everyone's name correctly. When the only name it's "funny" to mispronounce in a variety of different ways is a POC and/or someone born in another country, it doesn't seem random.

Both Tibb and Tellymix still are spelling his name wrong (see above)

do you think that is deliberate?

[Marsh.]

Both Tibb and Tellymix still are spelling his name wrong (see above)

do you think that is deliberate?

Paul admitted to deliberately changing his name to "funny words" so there's no question about it being deliberate.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Paul admitted to deliberately changing his name to "funny words" so there's no question about it being deliberate.

He was just taking the piss as Karthick was acting pompous I think if he had been white and called Sebastian he would have done the exact same thing and called him say Sevastopol

[Marsh.]

He was just taking the piss as Karthick was acting pompous I think if he had been white and called Sebastian he would have done the exact same thing and called him say Sevastopol

Regardless, he admitted to doing it deliberately so let's not keep up this "mispronounced by mistake" stuff by comparing it to "Are TiBB spelling his name wrong deliberately or by accident?". Danan is doing it on purpose and has said so.

He knows full well what Karthik's name is and how to pronounce it.

[Spoon]

Regardless, he admitted to doing it deliberately so let's not keep up this "mispronounced by mistake" stuff by comparing it to "Are TiBB spelling his name wrong deliberately or by accident?". Danan is doing it on purpose and has said so.

He knows full well what Karthik's name is and how to pronounce it.

THIS ^

[ClaireS92]

I gen get very tired of having to repeat what Ive said in my last post above about the fake idea of Race because i shouldn't really have to keep repeating it and I gen don't like to get involved in anything Political but I hate racism and it s important to put it back down any time it rears its ugly head,so I put what I did above yet again,Im gen really so sick of having to teach people these things when they should be able to work it out for themselves if they haven t worked it out for themselves yet .

For those reasons and because we are just better off without them ike I ve said for a while it is the Real Racists who we should be deporting to live on a prison island somewhere in the middle of the Pacific Ocean,for example so the rest of us don t have to cope with their rubbish again .

For those reasons I say vote the pig Paul and any other racist thick scum out of the house.We really could do without them .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Regardless, he admitted to doing it deliberately so let's not keep up this "mispronounced by mistake" stuff by comparing it to "Are TiBB spelling his name wrong deliberately or by accident?". Danan is doing it on purpose and has said so.

He knows full well what Karthik's name is and how to pronounce it.

Paul's father is Moroccan so i doubt it is deliberate

[Marsh.]

Paul's father is Moroccan so i doubt it is deliberate

He has said it's deliberate, so it is. I've heard him say "Karthik" so he's certainly capable of getting it right.

And his father being Moroccan has.... nothing to do with it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I gen get very tired of having to repeat what Ive said in my last post above about the fake idea of Race because i shouldn't really have to keep repeating it and I gen don't like to get involved in anything Political but I hate racism and it s important to put it back down any time it rears its ugly head,so I put what I did above yet again,Im gen really so sick of having to teach people these things when they should be able to work it out for themselves if they haven t worked it out for themselves yet .

For those reasons and because we are just better off without them ike I ve said for a while it is the Real Racists who we should be deporting to live on a prison island somewhere in the middle of the Pacific Ocean,for example so the rest of us don t have to cope with their rubbish again .

For those reasons I say vote the pig Paul and any other racist thick scum out of the house.We really could do without them .

I wish you all the best with your tireless quest to impart your knowledge on us thick twats

:rolleyes:

[Marsh.]

I wish you all the best with your tireless quest to impart your knowledge on us thick twats

:rolleyes:

:joker:

[bots]

to be called out for racist tendencies on ONE word, it has to be a well known racial slur used. This particular example just doesn't fit with that, its a real stretch to assign it to racism and given that the producers have let much more obvious misdemeanours go without comment it seems to be pandering to the OFCOM sect.

[ClaireS92]

Why are people missing the obvious?

He didn't accidentally mispronounce his name or get it wrong AT ALL. He PURPOSELY called him random "foreign" words to take the piss. He admitted this.

So it's a thin line and only a matter of time before he hit a "Shilpa Poppadom" type slip up.

:clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

Both Tibb and Tellymix still are spelling his name wrong (see above)

do you think that is deliberate?

Racists !!

[Samm]

a jackiey goody tea?

[chuff me dizzy]

to be called out for racist tendencies on ONE word, it has to be a well known racial slur used. This particular example just doesn't fit with that, its a real stretch to assign it to racism and given that the producers have let much more obvious misdemeanours go without comment it seems to be pandering to the OFCOM sect.

Sam called him the same name the day before, but for some reason he didn't throw the race card then

[Marsh.]

Sam called him the same name the day before, but for some reason he didn't throw the race card then

This is an outright lie.

[Crimson Dynamo]

here is a real racist gate

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1005037.1326405464!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/sign13n-1-web.jpg

[ClaireS92]

What Marsh said above is spot on-and justifies why I said what I did.Not surprised to see some on here missing the obvious though and backing the scummiest of people.OR F SURPRISED TO SEE AFTER MISSING THESE SO OBVIOUS THINGS THAT THEY TALK YAWNINGLY ABOUT PC VALUES SLAGGIN* THEM OFF AGAIN WHICH THEY ONLY DO OF COARSE TO JUSTIFY BEING ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH THEIR OWN ****TY BEHAVIOUR TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE AFTER\ ALL PC VALUES GRATE ON THEM BECAUSE THEY TEACH PEOPLE TO HAVE GOOD MANNERS AND TO CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER FOR EXAMPLE .

[Crimson Dynamo]

welp

now come the capitals

:worry:

[Glenn-C]

Welcome to PC gone made Britain :bored:

Considering a race row is what ruined BB in the first place you'd imagine they'd try be a bit more careful now

[Northern Monkey]

For Paul and anyone else who comes out with " racist" garbage; it s really quite simple. There is only one race and that is the Human Race. All other so called racial divisions are all artificial illusions because the whole Modern Human Race came from the same rift in Eastern Africa .

The different colours of skin and slight changes in skull shape (the only other real difference) are because that initial tribe which we are all related to and descended from.My favourite thing to tease and put down real racists is to tell them that even their ancestors were initially black because of it.I know that ll make them squirm.The Rea Racists I mean and you have to use shock tactics to get stupid people like them to listen

and start to think sometimes.But after that intitial tribe moved out from the rift in Eastern Africa those different split away groups from the initial tribe all settled in different parts of the globe for long periods where there is more direct sunlight than in other parts of the world and through pigmentation of the skin to protect them from the radiation of the ultra violet rays of the sun some peoples skin evolved darker than others depending on how much direct sunlight their particular split away group from the initial one in that rift had to cope with in the part of the world they settled in.

The other main slight dif is the change in skull shape which is because of settling for long periods in those other parts of the world too.Our DNA is 99 probably 99.99999% the same the world wide.Also missed by these idiots are that the richest at the top use these noticeable slight differences to encourage this false idea of race to divide us so it is easier for them to get richer and richer off us all simple things if only they had enough working brain connections to think them through and started to think it through so they d never accept any idea about different races within the one same human race .
This is old news.

Europe was the birthplace of mankind, not Africa, scientists find
The history of human evolution has been rewritten after scientists discovered that Europe was the birthplace of mankind, not Africa.

Currently, most experts believe that our human lineage split from apes around seven million years ago in central Africa, where hominids remained for the next five million years before venturing further afield.

But two fossils of an ape-like creature which had human-like teeth have been found in Bulgaria and Greece, dating to 7.2 million years ago.

Earliest humans are Europeans

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/22/europe-birthplace-mankind-not-africa-scientists-find/amp/

[Marsh.]

Wow, not scientific theories being majorly re-worked with new evidence.

My, what will LT do. :fan:

[chuff me dizzy]

This is an outright lie.

I will reword that Sam didn't call him by his real name in the photo task the other day, but the race card stayed in Karthiks pocket that time

[Marsh.]

I will reword that Sam didn't call him by his real name in the photo task the other day, but the race card stayed in Karthiks pocket that time

Oh, "reword" is that what we're calling it now. :idc:

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh, "reword" is that what we're calling it now. :idc:

You my dear can all it what you wish to, but Sam DID call him by another name, but nothing said

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wow, not scientific theories being majorly re-worked with new evidence.

My, what will LT do. :fan:

thats is the beauty of science :) but note the location may change but the general science that underpins it does not

Every piece of proper scientific evidence is put forward to be torn apart and analysed, that is what drives science forward, unlike say religion and superstition that states "this is right and cannot be changed or challenged"

[Dash Darington]

After, Big Brother invites Paul into the Diary Room and says: "Paul, Big Brother just wanted to call you in regarding your ongoing conversations with Karthik. During your conversation, Karthik misheard you and thought you had said Qatar."

"I didn't, I said Kartha," Paul insists.

Big Brother continues: "With that in mind, it's understandable that Karthik may have thought you were potentially using racist language as it's the name of a Middle Eastern airline and could therefore be seen as demeaning and inappropriate. Can you see it from his side?"


What's funny about this is that that isn't even "Karthik's side." He said "you called me Qatar Airways" as a joke. Setting aside the absurdity of holding white people responsible for brown people mishearing them, Karthik didn't even mishear him.

The producers are anti-white. There is no amount of submission or self-hatred that white people can adopt that will prevent these people from hating you.

[Paula D]

I'd have left Paul to his natural behaviour tbh and let the public decide what they thought of him.
I agree, given enough rope he would have gotten himself thrown out.

[Marsh.]

You my dear can all it what you wish to, but Sam DID call him by another name, but nothing said

This other name being?

[Marsh.]

thats is the beauty of science :) but note the location may change but the general science that underpins it does not

Every piece of proper scientific evidence is put forward to be torn apart and analysed, that is what drives science forward, unlike say religion and superstition that states "this is right and cannot be changed or challenged"

That wasn't my point, but funny how you jumped straight to that.

I was merely referencing your confusion between "scientific fact" and "scientific theory".

[lewis111]

I was a bit suprised that BB talked to him about it
But from tonight's preview I'm glad they did because he seems to be going about it in a disgusting way and blaming Karthik for being offered? Just say sorry and move on

[Gusto Brunt]

Mess. They kind of take the piss with warnings now.

They're so inconsistent as well.

[Paula D]

I was a bit suprised that BB talked to him about it
But from tonight's preview I'm glad they did because he seems to be going about it in a disgusting way and blaming Karthik for being offered? Just say sorry and move on
Yeah after tonight's show he needed that.

[rusticgal]

This whole situation has been blown well out of proportion...

Karthicks reaction to the 'ladies first' scenario is IMO equally a lack of respect to some countries recognition that Ladies are offered food/drinks first because it's the etiquette of many people.

We didn't see all of what happened that evening but it seems to have been a joke for a good part of the evening but it obviously grated on Karthick after a while...he should have said enough so enough but to pull the race card was IMO out of order...and BB have to be seen to react to it for the PC brigade..Karthick isn't stupid..he knew it would create a stir and the sympathy vote.

[Greg!]

After watching the show I think the warning was justified

[Tom4784]

It was racism, you'd have to be wilfully ignorant to have watched that and think otherwise.

[MTVN]

I know its not really the main issue but its really irritating how both Big Brother and all the housemates talk about Qatar as though it solely exists in the name of Qatar Airways rather than it being a country

[supertv247]

Oddly enough, the clip of them talking to Paul is now trending at the top of YouTube (although I'm sure this is promoted, rather than actually trending...)

[Rob!]

Welcome to PC gone made Britain :bored:

Coming from the woman who didn't believe "fag-got" was a homophobic term.

[Marsh.]

Coming from the woman who didn't believe "fag-got" was a homophobic term.

Of course she bloody does.

As Dezzy says, it's wilful ignorance.

[Paula D]

The reason he got that warning was because of him getting aggressive with Karthik in tonights show. He really showed himself up.

[Paula D]

Of course she bloody does.

As Dezzy says, it's wilful ignorance.
It's not ignorance, its pure evil. Ignorance is when you're unaware of the effect of your words. Evil is when you know but just don't care.

[Marsh.]

It's not ignorance, its pure evil. Ignorance is when you're unaware of the effect of your words. Evil is when you know but just don't care.

Well that's why it's called "wilful" ignorance. They know but they're choosing to ignore it. :laugh:

[Paula D]

Well that's why it's called "wilful" ignorance. They know but they're choosing to ignore it. [emoji23]
Yeah I knew what you meant, I just think a stronger word was needed. [emoji3]

[jet]

The reason he got that warning was because of him getting aggressive with Karthik in tonights show. He really showed himself up.

He's been riling Karthik for a few days now, and yes, the way he treated him in tonights show was disgusting, saying to him 'If you don't like your name, change it'. WTF? I can't stand the little racist toad.

[Paula D]

He's been riling Karthik for a few days now, and yes, the way he treated him in tonights show was disgusting, saying to him 'If you don't like your name, change it'. WTF? I can't stand the little racist toad.
Agree.

[Vanessa]

I don't think Paul is racist. He just doesn't like karthik. They always clash.

[poppsywoppsy]

On a humorous take on his name, I did giggle when reading on DS forum that they were also saying apart from Karthik, they were also not liking airthik or seathik.

Well it made me smile, as a play on words, no racist intent meant.:hee:

[hijaxers]

He's been riling Karthik for a few days now, and yes, the way he treated him in tonights show was disgusting, saying to him 'If you don't like your name, change it'. WTF? I can't stand the little racist toad.

Yes i agree with you , he totally deserved being spoken to as i have the feeling his abuse of Karthick would have continued.

[tb24259]

Don't think a warning was required just because some idiot couldn't tell the difference between "Kartha" and "Qatar" despite Paul explaining himself several times.

Agree 100%